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Come Inside... => Saloon Bar => Topic started by: The Moan Ranger on June 29, 2007, 12:17:17 PM
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Am I alone in thinking this was just some pissed up navvy and not really a potential terrorist outrage.
Look at the evidence - a silver Merc (the chosen wheels of half successful paddy builder) containing petrol canister (no doubt for a Jenny), gas bottles and nails. Sounds to me like he was loaded up to replenish a job, got wasted in a boozer, stacked it and buggered off.
If you want to plant a car bomb, you don't crash it first, making it obvious. Also, petrol is hardly in the same league as Semtex or fertiliser based explosives. Plus the nails would tend to be attached to the "bomb" if they were for maiming purposes.
This wouldn't be El Gordo trying to show how safe the country has now become thanks to his unwanted and ongoing tenure at No. 10, would it?
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I must have missed something on the news.
Why is there a little mobile phone symbol at the top of your post?
I clicked it and nothing happened. redface:
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I must have missed something on the news.
Why is there a little mobile phone symbol at the top of your post?
I clicked it and nothing happened. redface:
Posted from a Blackberry,whilst in the boozer for some well earned lunchtime relaxation.
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I must have missed something on the news.
Why is there a little mobile phone symbol at the top of your post?
I clicked it and nothing happened. redface:
Posted from a Blackberry,whilst in the boozer for some well earned lunchtime relaxation.
Well I never!
What will they think of next. spider:
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Am I alone in thinking this was just some pissed up navvy and not really a potential terrorist outrage.
men with beards have been mentioned by Sky, but I thought that if it was muslims they would have blown themselves up with it.
Interesting to hear that another vehicle " connected to the first one " has been found at Hyde Park where some work is being carried out, It seems your theory could be plausable
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We are all safe - the dribbling Scotchman is at the helm...
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latest is they've found another one in Fleet Street scared2:
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The streets of Surrey are still no doubt safe, though.
The streets of Barrow proably not so - but never were. Are Nick and Bar Wench meeting up as we speak? If so, I shall conduct a hubcap check in the Surrey area tomorrow...
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I agree with Berek ? the beards wouldn't have run off and left the things would they? Also, as TMR pointed out they continued to state until late last night that the 'bomb' consisted of petrol, gas cylinders and nails ? none of which would have caused a catastrophic explosion on their own.
Unless there was really a pound of Semtex or a load of weed killer involved somewhere I 'm still not seeing this as a bomb at all...
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2 cars now rubschin:
Meg reckons its all a set up by the Gov as a way of introducing yet more anti terror legislation whistle:
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2 cars now rubschin:
Meg reckons its all a set up by the Gov as a way of introducing yet more anti terror legislation whistle:
It would be a great coup for Gordo if they had it all wrapped up in a week wouldn?t it? ::)
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Theres a caption competition in the waiting, a starter for 10:
Fandabadozeeeeeeee
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I'm a right cunt I am!
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How the f*ck can we expect respect from other countries when all we can offer for a PM is this complete TWAT ????? we're bloody well doomed now . scared2: scared2:
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Car on fire crashes into airport
Here is your 'bomb' I suspect...
A car on fire has been driven at the main terminal building at Glasgow Airport, police have confirmed.
Eyewitnesses have described a Jeep Cherokee being driven at speed towards the building with flames coming out from underneath.
Source (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/6257194.stm)
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Not just a car fire, where the passenger panicked and drove into a building, perhaps.
Al Queda go for what they consider to be "quality target". I'm not sure Glaswegians qualify!
:-)
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In honour of this event, I have put "Suspect Device" by Stiff Little Fingers on the juke box. And I'm still smoking.
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Its time to ban all asians from driving cars
I see one of them was on fire, you'd have thought a drunk jock would have pissed on him, personally i'd have watched the fucker burn and post it on LiveLeak
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In honour of this event, I have put "Suspect Device" by Stiff Little Fingers on the juke box. And I'm still smoking.
you just HAVE TO tempt me don't you..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBYoNYuUVk0
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Not just a car fire, where the passenger panicked and drove into a building, perhaps.
Al Queda go for what they consider to be "quality target". I'm not sure Glaswegians qualify!
:-)
Deliberate attack... whistle:
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Not just a car fire, where the passenger panicked and drove into a building, perhaps.
Al Queda go for what they consider to be "quality target". I'm not sure Glaswegians qualify!
:-)
Deliberate attack... whistle:
Probably a car full of drunks and one of them decided it would be a laugh to show his mates how he could set light to a fart. ::) Not every incident is terrorism but making it so helps our "leaders" to (i) show us that they are "on the job" AND (ii) bring in ever more restrictive legislation in support of their overarching desire to CONTROL us.
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Although the authorities do use these these events to place more control over us they are real terrorist incidents which, but for a little luck, could have worse.
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In honour of this event, I have put "Suspect Device" by Stiff Little Fingers on the juke box. And I'm still smoking.
you just HAVE TO tempt me don't you..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBYoNYuUVk0
Is that Prince Harry at 1 minute 45 seconds tunble: Not sure Di would approve of this lot and they certainly aren't playing at the gig today.
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Due to these recent events, be aware that the French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels in France are Surrender and Collaborate.
The rise was precipitated by a recent fire which destroyed France's
white flag factory, effectively paralyzing their military.
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Due to these recent events, be aware that the French government announced yesterday that it has raised its terror alert level from Run to Hide. The only two higher levels in France are Surrender and Collaborate.
The rise was precipitated by a recent fire which destroyed France's
white flag factory, effectively paralyzing their military.
I'v read it before but its still happy001 happy001 ---- Thanks
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I posted it on the "other" site just after 7/7 - perhaps you read it there?
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I posted it on the "other" site just after 7/7 - perhaps you read it there?
First heard it when they sank the Greenpeace boat in the 70's but it's still good. lol:
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our roads and railways are in safe hands now..
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our roads and railways are in safe hands now..
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Bugger the hands ~ has she got that spikey thingy round her thigh ..... that's the picture I want to see. eyes:
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shy talk would eyes:
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On that picture so would I ~ but as my ex wife would tell you "He'd fuck a frog if it stopped hopping" redface:
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On that picture so would I ~ but as my ex wife would tell you "He'd fuck a frog if it stopped hopping" redface:
I seem to remember reading somewhere that at 10 -09 pm you were off to bed and here you are at 10-43 posting sex messages point:
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Although the authorities do use these these events to place more control over us they are real terrorist incidents which, but for a little luck, could have worse.
From all accounts it seems that these were amateur in the extreme ? cars full of petrol and gas cylinders with a mobile ?phone connected to a bulb filament as the igniter (in the case of the London ?attacks?). Who knows, perhaps the Glasgow attack was a similar weapon and their mum called them up to ask what time they would be home for their tea while they were on the way?
I?m not an expert but I know that it is extremely difficult to ignite petrol/gas vapour in an enclosed space. I know that gas cylinders don?t explode immediately in fires ? it take a great deal of heat and then they are designed to ?vent? rather than explode. If petrol and gas cylinders were so explosive they wouldn?t be allowed to be carted around the country every day.
So it seems to me that this was an amateur attack ? no doubt we should be worried about it. What drives these people to hate us so much that they are prepared to risk their lives to cause chaos and loss of life for their cause? We need to look at their backgrounds and see what the cause was, who incited them to hatred.
However, I think we have to be extremely careful not to overreact. We are being told that this was an attack by Al Qu'ida and that fact will surely lead to greater restrictions on our lives. Inspired by Al Qu'ida perhaps but organised and funded by them ? no. For surely Al Qu'ida would know that you would need explosives to detonate a car full of petrol and gas cylinders ? and probably have access to it.
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"He'd fuck a frog if it stopped hopping"
They are no fun once they stop hopping!
Allegedly.
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Although the authorities do use these these events to place more control over us they are real terrorist incidents which, but for a little luck, could have worse.
From all accounts it seems that these were amateur in the extreme ? cars full of petrol and gas cylinders with a mobile ?phone connected to a bulb filament as the igniter (in the case of the London ?attacks?). Who knows, perhaps the Glasgow attack was a similar weapon and their mum called them up to ask what time they would be home for their tea while they were on the way?
I?m not an expert but I know that it is extremely difficult to ignite petrol/gas vapour in an enclosed space. I know that gas cylinders don?t explode immediately in fires ? it take a great deal of heat and then they are designed to ?vent? rather than explode. If petrol and gas cylinders were so explosive they wouldn?t be allowed to be carted around the country every day.
So it seems to me that this was an amateur attack ? no doubt we should be worried about it. What drives these people to hate us so much that they are prepared to risk their lives to cause chaos and loss of life for their cause? We need to look at their backgrounds and see what the cause was, who incited them to hatred.
However, I think we have to be extremely careful not to overreact. We are being told that this was an attack by Al Qu'ida and that fact will surely lead to greater restrictions on our lives. Inspired by Al Qu'ida perhaps but organised and funded by them ? no. For surely Al Qu'ida would know that you would need explosives to detonate a car full of petrol and gas cylinders ? and probably have access to it.
True but the explosives wouldnt have to be complicated, the contents of a couple of boxes of fireworks would, I suspect, provide the required amount. Bear in mind that an IED is just that, improvised.
To be honest I'm waiting to hear on the news that some of these morons have tried to set off the Richard Montgomery.
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Although the authorities do use these these events to place more control over us they are real terrorist incidents which, but for a little luck, could have worse.
From all accounts it seems that these were amateur in the extreme ? cars full of petrol and gas cylinders with a mobile ?phone connected to a bulb filament as the igniter (in the case of the London ?attacks?). Who knows, perhaps the Glasgow attack was a similar weapon and their mum called them up to ask what time they would be home for their tea while they were on the way?
I?m not an expert but I know that it is extremely difficult to ignite petrol/gas vapour in an enclosed space. I know that gas cylinders don?t explode immediately in fires ? it take a great deal of heat and then they are designed to ?vent? rather than explode. If petrol and gas cylinders were so explosive they wouldn?t be allowed to be carted around the country every day.
So it seems to me that this was an amateur attack ? no doubt we should be worried about it. What drives these people to hate us so much that they are prepared to risk their lives to cause chaos and loss of life for their cause? We need to look at their backgrounds and see what the cause was, who incited them to hatred.
However, I think we have to be extremely careful not to overreact. We are being told that this was an attack by Al Qu'ida and that fact will surely lead to greater restrictions on our lives. Inspired by Al Qu'ida perhaps but organised and funded by them ? no. For surely Al Qu'ida would know that you would need explosives to detonate a car full of petrol and gas cylinders ? and probably have access to it.
True but the explosives wouldnt have to be complicated, the contents of a couple of boxes of fireworks would, I suspect, provide the required amount. Bear in mind that an IED is just that, improvised.
To be honest I'm waiting to hear on the news that some of these morons have tried to set off the Richard Montgomery.
Noooo? it is notoriously difficult to ignite petrol ? especially in enclosed spaces. The images in Hollywood of cars exploding when somebody shakes a fist at them are simply untrue.
Likewise, gas cylinders are designed to be used over and over and subjected to extremes of temperatures and rough handling ? otherwise you couldn?t drive truckloads of them around the country without the things going off every five minutes.
You?d surely need a huge explosive to destroy the car, burst the gas cylinders and produce a ?fuel-air? cloud that would produce an effective weapon.
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I'm due at the quacks tomorrow.
He's Asian.
I'm feeling loads better this evening. scared:
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I'm due at the quacks tomorrow.
He's Asian.
I'm feeling loads better this evening. scared:
Mine is too, and he's the best doctor iv'e ever had..
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I'm due at the quacks tomorrow.
He's Asian.
I'm feeling loads better this evening. scared:
Mine is too, and he's the best doctor iv'e ever had..
So's mine funnily enough. Dead polite and never rushes me.Real nice guy on the face of it, and I'm sure he is too.
Look at those on the box tonight though.Looked like ordinary decent quacks, here to help the sick and save lives. Listen to what their colleauges say about them.
Bloody frightening isn't it? Just who do you trust now?
Even my local vicar is starting to look a bit dodgy now. He's HAS got a beard you know. scared2:
Saw him in the petrol station before buying petrol ffs! eeek:
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He's HAS got a beard you know. scared2:
So have I !!! whistle: scared2:
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He's HAS got a beard you know. scared2:
So have I !!! whistle: scared2:
I know. That's why I don't want to meet you. scared2:
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Noooo? it is notoriously difficult to ignite petrol ? especially in enclosed spaces. The images in Hollywood of cars exploding when somebody shakes a fist at them are simply untrue.
Likewise, gas cylinders are designed to be used over and over and subjected to extremes of temperatures and rough handling ? otherwise you couldn?t drive truckloads of them around the country without the things going off every five minutes.
You?d surely need a huge explosive to destroy the car, burst the gas cylinders and produce a ?fuel-air? cloud that would produce an effective weapon.
Lets us remember that these people work for the NHS ~ that implies that they do not necessarily have to be very bright ~ if my experiences with that organisation are anything to go by evil:
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Noooo? it is notoriously difficult to ignite petrol ? especially in enclosed spaces. The images in Hollywood of cars exploding when somebody shakes a fist at them are simply untrue.
Likewise, gas cylinders are designed to be used over and over and subjected to extremes of temperatures and rough handling ? otherwise you couldn?t drive truckloads of them around the country without the things going off every five minutes.
You?d surely need a huge explosive to destroy the car, burst the gas cylinders and produce a ?fuel-air? cloud that would produce an effective weapon.
Lets us remember that these people work for the NHS ~ that implies that they do not necessarily have to be very bright ~ if my experiences with that organisation are anything to go by evil:
Good point...
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Hang on. Those two bastards that drove the Jeep into the Airport terminal were qualified doctors weren't they?
Surely you have to have a modicum of intelligence to become one don't you?
Well, at least a smidging more than the amount the other breath wasting bearded pond life had when they tried to blow London up very nearly 2 years ago.
On saying that, those bastards were moderately more successful than these animals, so p'raps, maybe......... rubschin:
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Hang on. Those two bastards that drove the Jeep into the Airport terminal were qualified doctors weren't they?
Surely you have to have a modicum of intelligence to become one don't you?
Well, at least a smidging more than the amount the other breath wasting bearded pond life had when they tried to blow London up very nearly 2 years ago.
On saying that, those bastards were moderately more successful than these animals, so p'raps, maybe......... rubschin:
You are supposed to be well educated and qualified? however, given how desperate the NHS is for doctors you can probably get a job now if you have your own stethoscope.
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7000 trainee doctors, due to graduate this year, will not be offered positions in the NHS because there are "not enough vacancies".
Why have we spent so much time and money training them?
They are having to seek employment overseas.
Why then are we imported these people from Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, India, Jordan, Palestine etc?
They are no better qualified, many can barely be understood by the patients or nurses and many have difficulty understanding one another.
It is political correctness under ten years of nulabour. Throw the bloody lot out. NOW!
I am not talking about the established GPs and consultants who have been here for years and years, many having been born, gone to school and trained here. I am talking about all these new comers. It was obvious that many were here to cause trouble and those that aren't are only here because they can earn so much more than in their own countries ~ meanwhile we are asking trained British doctors to consider taking a year out and go as volunteers to the very same countries with the VSO etc to help support their failing health care systems.
Utter nonsense! evil: evil:
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7000 trainee doctors, due to graduate this year, will not be offered positions in the NHS because there are "not enough vacancies".
Why have we spent so much time and money training them?
They are having to seek employment overseas.
Why then are we imported these people from Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, India, Jordan, Palestine etc?
They are no better qualified, many can barely be understood by the patients or nurses and many have difficulty understanding one another.
It is political correctness under ten years of nulabour. Throw the bloody lot out. NOW!
I am not talking about the established GPs and consultants who have been here for years and years, many having been born, gone to school and trained here. I am talking about all these new comers. It was obvious that many were here to cause trouble and those that aren't are only here because they can earn so much more than in their own countries ~ meanwhile we are asking trained British doctors to consider taking a year out and go as volunteers to the very same countries with the VSO etc to help support their failing health care systems.
Utter nonsense! evil: evil:
I agree, utter cack... noooo:
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Sounds like they have an excuse to send them all back now and employ "local labour". eyes:
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Lets us remember that these people work for the NHS ~ that implies that they do not necessarily have to be very bright
ahem.. evil:
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Lets us remember that these people work for the NHS ~ that implies that they do not necessarily have to be very bright
ahem.. evil:
YEEEEESSSSS???????????????
And how many times have you said to yourself "If I had any sense I wouldn't work for this lot" ???
I'm not being insulting but it is a fact that you do not need to be bright to be a Doctor ~ you need a good memory and an ability to pass examinations.
I'm sure that Berek knows that petrol does not burn ~ It's the vapour that ignites.
Clearly these idiots had failed to take that one on board.
Gas canisters need to get incredibly hot to explode. To ignite the gas they contain requires a valve be fitted to the top of the canister that can then be opened so that the escaping gas can be lit.
Again these "highly trained" Doctors had missed that one because there are no such valves showing on any of the pictures I have seen.
I suspect that the one who caught fire was trying to light some petrol or gas at the last moment and f*cked it up. The plots failed due solely to incompetence.
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supposed [/i] to be well educated and qualified? however, given how desperate the NHS is for doctors you can probably get a job now if you have your own stethoscope.
I seem to remember a number of scandals about 'doctors' with falsified qualifications over the last few years...
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Lets us remember that these people work for the NHS ~ that implies that they do not necessarily have to be very bright
ahem.. evil:
Present company excluded of course? redface: