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Offline Nick

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The AV referendum
« on: April 12, 2011, 07:59:29 PM »
OK, what is the VP view? I am agin it because so many luvvies are in favour, but I can see some advantages.

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Re: The AV referendum
« Reply #1 on: April 12, 2011, 08:03:09 PM »
I can see some advantages so I'm for it. It'll make bugger all difference here though  Shrugs:
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Re: The AV referendum
« Reply #2 on: April 12, 2011, 08:28:19 PM »
No way .... the only countriea that use it are basket cases.... Anywhooo it ain't the British Way. Winner is the first past the post. No prizes for losers.
It reminds me of NuLabours schools policies. Can't have a sports day in case there are losers.
Utter rubbish.
If you make a good enough case then you get in, if you cannot convince enough people to vote for you then you don't deserve a place.
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Re: The AV referendum
« Reply #3 on: April 12, 2011, 08:30:52 PM »
Does it make a blind bit of difference when you look at the choices ......it's like choosing which fish to eat  noooo:
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Re: The AV referendum
« Reply #4 on: April 12, 2011, 08:32:27 PM »
Quote from: Miss Demeanor on April 12, 2011, 08:30:52 PM
Does it make a blind bit of difference when you look at the choices ......it's like choosing which fish to eat  noooo:

I eat salmon but I would never vote for the slippery bugger
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Re: The AV referendum
« Reply #5 on: April 12, 2011, 08:41:50 PM »
I'd also like to see a compulsory vote as part of citizenship but that's another matter  whistle:
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Re: The AV referendum
« Reply #6 on: April 12, 2011, 08:44:37 PM »
Now that I would vote for..... 8)
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Re: The AV referendum
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2011, 07:14:24 AM »
The Lib Dems seem very keen on it... a reason to avoid it like the plague I would have thought...  rubschin:
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Re: The AV referendum
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2011, 07:21:08 AM »
Quote from: Barman on April 13, 2011, 07:14:24 AM
The Lib Dems seem very keen on it... a reason to avoid it like the plague I would have thought...  rubschin:

The Lib Dems will support any measure they think will help them stay in Government.
Meanwhile the Tories are agin it and Labour have a leader who says Yes and 120 MPs who have said they will campaign for a No....... You will note that none of them have asked those who they represent which way they should vote.

This side of Offa's Dyke we also have to contend with a buggers muddle of a different system (part first past the post and part "selection" from party lists) on the same day which will inevitably lead to another unholy alliance in Cardiff.
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Re: The AV referendum
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2011, 10:14:41 AM »
Quote from AV leaflet

If more people vote ‘yes’ than ‘no’, when will we start using the ‘alternative vote’ system?

The ‘alternative vote’ system will be used after a review of the boundaries of the area that each MP represents (known as their constituency) is completed. This is due to happen between 2011 and 2013. The review will happen regardless of the outcome of this referendum.
At the end of the review, the UK Parliament will vote on implementing the new boundaries. If the new boundaries are implemented, the ‘alternative vote’ system will be used for all future elections to the House of Commons.


The last sentence seems to imply that the referendum can be negated by a vote on new boundaries.
What is the point then?
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Re: The AV referendum
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2011, 10:20:03 AM »
Quote from: tel on April 13, 2011, 10:14:41 AM
Quote from AV leaflet

If more people vote ‘yes’ than ‘no’, when will we start using the ‘alternative vote’ system?

The ‘alternative vote’ system will be used after a review of the boundaries of the area that each MP represents (known as their constituency) is completed. This is due to happen between 2011 and 2013. The review will happen regardless of the outcome of this referendum.
At the end of the review, the UK Parliament will vote on implementing the new boundaries. If the new boundaries are implemented, the ‘alternative vote’ system will be used for all future elections to the House of Commons.


The last sentence seems to imply that the referendum can be negated by a vote on new boundaries.
What is the point then?

Quite so...

Whoever you vote for you get the government - they make sure of that....  noooo:
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Re: The AV referendum
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2011, 07:34:32 PM »
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Re: The AV referendum
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2011, 07:42:08 PM »
It's gonna be such a great day  noooo:

Predicted turnout ...one man and their dog

Alerts been put out as some kind of campaign being organised to turn up in large groups just before closing time to create mayhem  ::)

Electoral Commission has ordained that no explanation is allowed to be given on the day to any voter turning up confused as to what AV is about. Not allowed to say anything. Such a helpful approach  noooo:

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Re: The AV referendum
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2011, 07:43:00 PM »
Quote from: Miss Demeanor on April 18, 2011, 07:42:08 PM
It's gonna be such a great day  noooo:

Predicted turnout ...one man and their dog

Alerts been put out as some kind of campaign being organised to turn up in large groups just before closing time to create mayhem  ::)

Electoral Commission has ordained that no explanation is allowed to be given on the day to any voter turning up confused as to what AV is about. Not allowed to say anything. Such a helpful approach  noooo:



Perhaps you could explain now then... beforehand like...  whistle:
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Re: The AV referendum
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2011, 07:44:25 PM »
You're an overseas voter ...you can bog off - you don't count  whistle:
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