School grump 1. Detention

[GROWLER]

OK. So Miss Growler was caught chewing gum, AND she admitted it, which is apparently unusual in itself apparently...for others to do, not Miss G.
Her punishment? 1 hours detention AFTER school...NOW in fact...with the Headmaster.
Now whilst i'm not condoning the disgusting habit of chewing gum , I would add that Miss G is under NO illusion whatsoever as to what the consequences would be if I caught her casually disgarding it onto the deck. ...and more .

This is however, school policy, and I recognise that...she does now too.
What I DO object to is the inconveinience that this 'punishment' is putting me or Mrs Growler to....her probably, cus I'm too busy...in here.
Picking up Growler jnr @ 15:45, then having to go back @ 16:45 for the disgraced Miss G.
We could be going away. Miss G could have a dental appointment, etc., etc.
The school will NOT accept ANY excuses for non attendance apparently.

The head' is now confirmed to me as a power freak, as a couple of his x members of staff have since told me.
He instigated this 'purge' on chewers this week.

This is the same prick that deemed a 2 day holiday, sorry suspension, to the utter utter utter little bastard that broke my sons nose ON school property last year ffs.
2 days whoopee time for Scrote jnr for violent conduct, 1/12 of that time IN school for chewing gum.
Yea. That seems fair and just to me...NOT!

[The Moan Ranger]

When I was a (perfect) Prefect, my punishment fitted the crime - catch you smoking, hand over your fags OR do an hours detention helping the caretaker to tidy up. Get caught chewing gum? Hand over the chewing gum or an hours detention helping the caretaker clear the chewing gum up.

Result: a tidy business selling both the fags AND the chewing gum to disguise the smell.

Plus free fags and chewing gum for me...

[Bar Wench]

Part of the reason for doing it after school is exactly so it is an inconvenience to the parents. Whilst you are obviously the sort of parent who has attempted to drag their little brats up the right way a lot don't. An after school detention means that the parents have to pay attention and will be pissed off. Thus hopefully meaning little brat will actually be punished by the parents and not just the replacement nanny, school.

[Misunderstood]

Part of the reason for doing it after school is exactly so it is an inconvenience to the parents. Whilst you are obviously the sort of parent who has attempted to drag their little brats up the right way a lot don't. An after school detention means that the parents have to pay attention and will be pissed off. Thus hopefully meaning little brat will actually be punished by the parents and not just the replacement nanny, school.

I see.   So what you are saying is that detention is a form of punishment aimed at the parents?


No wonder it's been banned by a large number of schools around here.

One quote from a local school administrator goes along the lines of:   "Any thoughts of punishment is an admission of failure."

I think that just about sums it up.   We have a   l-o-n-g   way to go from here.

[The Moan Ranger]

Part of the reason for doing it after school is exactly so it is an inconvenience to the parents. Whilst you are obviously the sort of parent who has attempted to drag their little brats up the right way a lot don't. An after school detention means that the parents have to pay attention and will be pissed off. Thus hopefully meaning little brat will actually be punished by the parents and not just the replacement nanny, school.

Detention, presumably, is only given to those of a secondary school age. This being the case, why should it inconvenience the parents? - surely the little scrote is more than capable of making their way to and from school without relying on "Mum's/Dad's Taxi". And if they are an hour later, so what?

I was given the option - detention, lines or the cane. I took the cane every time. It should be brought back and pronto.

[Snoopy]

Part of the reason for doing it after school is exactly so it is an inconvenience to the parents. Whilst you are obviously the sort of parent who has attempted to drag their little brats up the right way a lot don't. An after school detention means that the parents have to pay attention and will be pissed off. Thus hopefully meaning little brat will actually be punished by the parents and not just the replacement nanny, school.

Yes I can see that argument ~ of course the type of parents we are talking about won't give a stuff and little latchkey Jenny will be forced to miss the school bus, walk home in the rain because her parents are at work and will not be there to pick her up, accept a lift from a kindly looking old gent and be found in a ditch several weeks later by someone out walking their dog.
F*cking Brilliant Idea!

[GROWLER]

Part of the reason for doing it after school is exactly so it is an inconvenience to the parents. Whilst you are obviously the sort of parent who has attempted to drag their little brats up the right way a lot don't. An after school detention means that the parents have to pay attention and will be pissed off. Thus hopefully meaning little brat will actually be punished by the parents and not just the replacement nanny, school.

Detention, presumably, is only given to those of a secondary school age. This being the case, why should it inconvenience the parents? - surely the little scrote is more than capable of making their way to and from school without relying on "Mum's/Dad's Taxi". And if they are an hour later, so what?

I was given the option - detention, lines or the cane. I took the cane every time. It should be brought back and pronto.

Total shite until the last paragraph. I would NOT let my kids walk home from school for various reasons. The crime rate, bullying, abductions and crazy killer drivers being the main reasons.
However, your last paragraph/sentence gets the full 100% backing and a big round of applause from me, and I award you accordingly.
I thought I was alone on this one...human rights and all that utter festering shite nonsense.
BRING IT BACK.....NOW!

[The Moan Ranger]

Part of the reason for doing it after school is exactly so it is an inconvenience to the parents. Whilst you are obviously the sort of parent who has attempted to drag their little brats up the right way a lot don't. An after school detention means that the parents have to pay attention and will be pissed off. Thus hopefully meaning little brat will actually be punished by the parents and not just the replacement nanny, school.

Detention, presumably, is only given to those of a secondary school age. This being the case, why should it inconvenience the parents? - surely the little scrote is more than capable of making their way to and from school without relying on "Mum's/Dad's Taxi". And if they are an hour later, so what?

I was given the option - detention, lines or the cane. I took the cane every time. It should be brought back and pronto.

Total shite until the last paragraph. I would NOT let my kids walk home from school for various reasons. The crime rate, bullying, abductions and crazy killer drivers being the main reasons.However, your last paragraph/sentence gets the full 100% backing and a big round of applause from me, and I award you accordingly.
I thought I was alone on this one...human rights and all that utter festering shite nonsense.
BRING IT BACK.....NOW!

I understand your concerns, perhaps the crime rate in leafy Surrey is somewhat lower though. Although we still have lots of crazy killer drivers - but most of the schoolchildren round here seem to get the bus. The idea of using the legs they were born with seems abhorrent to them.

[Snoopy]

The walking buses seem a good idea to me
http://www.thewalkingbus.co.uk/?gclid=CKmLuYPimo0CFRm6EAodB09zyw
But it is totally wrong that any school should make a child miss the school bus and have to walk home alone in this day and age. They cannot hide behind the fact that they have given the parents 24 hours notice. Not everyone can drop work at that sort of notice.

[GROWLER]

The buses...for want of a better description ...around here, are ancient 1984 vintage, belching black smoke, grossly overcrowded to the point of being utterly dangerous, hugely expensive to use, and probably the worst place for violent conduct.

I like the idea of the walking bus, but it holds minus zero street cred. for teenagers unfortunately.
Cycling is the other option of course, and my two have expressed an intrest in this mode of transportation to school, but I had to say no reluctantly, due to the narrowness and busyness of the roads that lead to it.
8-9 and 3-4 is wacky races time, and more akin to Silverstone than urban roads.

[Old Peculier]

The buses...for want of a better description ...around here, are ancient 1984 vintage, belching black smoke, grossly overcrowded to the point of being utterly dangerous, hugely expensive to use, and probably the worst place for violent conduct.

I like the idea of the walking bus, but it holds minus zero street cred. for teenagers unfortunately.
Cycling is the other option of course, and my two have expressed an intrest in this mode of transportation to school, but I had to say no reluctantly, due to the narrowness and busyness of the roads that lead to it.
8-9 and 3-4 is wacky races time, and more akin to Silverstone than urban roads.

Growler old bean, I think you'll find there is a far higher standard of driving at Silverstone than ever there is on the pubic highway! And it's better policed in terms of pedestrians!

[GROWLER]

The buses...for want of a better description ...around here, are ancient 1984 vintage, belching black smoke, grossly overcrowded to the point of being utterly dangerous, hugely expensive to use, and probably the worst place for violent conduct.

I like the idea of the walking bus, but it holds minus zero street cred. for teenagers unfortunately.
Cycling is the other option of course, and my two have expressed an intrest in this mode of transportation to school, but I had to say no reluctantly, due to the narrowness and busyness of the roads that lead to it.
8-9 and 3-4 is wacky races time, and more akin to Silverstone than urban roads.

Growler old bean, I think you'll find there is a far higher standard of driving at Silverstone than ever there is on the pubic highway! And it's better policed in terms of pedestrians!

I think you know I was referring to the speed more than the skill ey?

[Snoopy]

The buses...for want of a better description ...around here, are ancient 1984 vintage, belching black smoke, grossly overcrowded to the point of being utterly dangerous, hugely expensive to use, and probably the worst place for violent conduct.

I like the idea of the walking bus, but it holds minus zero street cred. for teenagers unfortunately.
Cycling is the other option of course, and my two have expressed an intrest in this mode of transportation to school, but I had to say no reluctantly, due to the narrowness and busyness of the roads that lead to it.
8-9 and 3-4 is wacky races time, and more akin to Silverstone than urban roads.

Growler old bean, I think you'll find there is a far higher standard of driving at Silverstone than ever there is on the pubic highway! And it's better policed in terms of pedestrians!

True 'nuff but I think I understand exactly what Growler was saying ~ every @rsehole that gets behind a wheel seems to think they are in a Grand Prix every morning and evening .... particularly those doing the school run who have to then "speed" on to get to work on time. Few of them are barely more than competent drivers and many are down right dangerous and should never have been allowed a licence. The roads around Growler's patch and here in North Wales are little more than country lanes and need to be treated with care. Kids cycling to and from school daily simply raises the odds that one of them will get seriously hurt.

[The Moan Ranger]

Both myself and my brother used to cycle to and from school each day. I don't believe drivers are much worse now than then. Plus cars have anti-lock brakes, better tyres etc.than in my day. More bikes on the road would probably be a good thing and certainly better than them riding on the pavements, scaring old dears.

Bullying and violence on busses has been going on for years, taking your children to and from school by car only serves to hide them from the realities of life - as does hiding behind a keyboard on MSN, as lots of kids do. it's easy to act tough down the internet cable, but most would run a mile at the thought of going to see the person they are slagging off and sorting it face to face.

The world is far from perfect, but children need to experience the realities of it and the consequences that come with it.

Friends of mine at school had to endure the daily abuse on the bus as we Grammar School boys were always a target. Some were regularly beaten up, the others decided enough was enough and learned how to fight back. The timid went on to a life of servitude behind a Civil Service desk, the fighters have all - in general - made a good life for themselves. If you get bullied at school, chances are you will get bullied for the rest of your life.

So sorry Growler, I have to disagree on this one :-(

[Misunderstood]

Whilst I can fairly see where Growler is coming from, it is after all, every parents desire to protect their kids, I have to acknowledge that TMR is saying it as it is.

Only by exposing your kids to the rough and tumble of real life can they ever hope to be able to compete on a level playing field with the would-be bullies.

Unfortunately, by releasing the strings, you introduce the chance that something will go wrong and then you'll never forgive yourself.

Conversely, you could guard your kid 24/7 and still get struck by lightning.   Hobson's choice really....