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Something you want to tell us Gordo?
« on: December 01, 2008, 11:44:49 AM »
So just how close are we to adopting the Euro Gordo and why are we only finding out we are closer then ever to doing so from the president of the EU?  cussing:

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The UK is "closer than ever before" to joining the euro, according to the European Commission's president.

Jose Manuel Barroso told French radio that British politicians were considering the move because of the effects of the global credit crunch.

However Downing Street said its position on the euro remained the same.

Shadow foreign secretary William Hague said it was "extraordinary" ministers were talking EU about joining the euro "behind the British people's backs".

In 1997 Gordon Brown set five economic tests which he had to judge were met before recommending UK euro entry.

The key test is whether the UK economy is coming together with those of countries in the eurozone and whether this can be sustained in the long-term. The second test, linked to this, is whether there is sufficient flexibility to cope with economic change.

The remaining three tests assess the impact of joining the euro on jobs, foreign investment and the financial services industry.

Mr Brown has been seen as less keen on the UK adopting the euro than predecessor as prime minister, Tony Blair.

Confidential conversations

Opinion polls have suggested that any vote on scrapping the pound and adopting the euro would be lost, and in the UK the currency has not been a significant political issue for years.

The Treasury - which ruled in 2003 that four of the five tests had not been met - was not available for comment on whether they were going to reassessed.

Mr Barroso acknowledged "the majority" of British people continued to oppose joining the eurozone.

But he said the recent economic uncertainty had made the currency a far more attractive option.

In the RTL radio/LCI television broadcast, the former prime minister of Portugal said: "We are now closer than ever before.

"I'm not going to break the confidentiality of certain conversations, but some British politicians have already told me, 'If we had the euro, we would have been better off'. "

He said the current poor economic situation had emphasised the importance of the euro and the UK, but added he believed a move would not take place in the immediate future.

"I know that the majority in Britain are still opposed, but there is a period of consideration under way and the people who matter in Britain are currently thinking about it," he said.

The value of sterling compared with other currencies has fallen during the credit crunch, and the UK government has had to spend massively in recent months to try to support the economy.

During the interview, Mr Barroso highlighted the situation in Denmark - an EU state which voted against joining the eurozone in 2000, but is now considering holding a new referendum on the single currency.

A Downing Street spokesman said: "We have no comment on this. Our position on the euro is the same - it has not changed."

Business Secretary Lord Mandelson, a former European Commissioner, told Labour's Progress conference on Saturday: "I hold to the view that our aim, our goal, should be to enter the single currency."

He added that the government was "obviously not going to take on that challenge" in the current economic climate.

'Hunt them down'

The UK's opposition Conservative Party opposes the UK adopting the euro.

Mr Hague said: "It is extraordinary that certain politicians are whispering to the EU Commission about joining the euro behind the British people's backs.

"Keeping the pound is vital for Britain's economic future. We need interest rates that are right for Britain, not the rest of Europe. There are no circumstances in which the next Conservative government will propose joining the euro.

"If Labour ministers still want to get Britain into the euro they should come out and say so. We will be putting questions to the government to find out what conversations have been going on."

The leader of the UK Independence Party, Nigel Farage, said "the people who matter in Britain are the people, not the professional political class that Barroso is himself a member of".

"That ruling elite would love to bounce us into the euro and will grasp at any straw to do so, for it's a step on the way to their dream and our nightmare, a federal superstate.

"We're told that some British politicians have said 'If we had the euro, we would have been better off'. Whoever these people are we need to hunt them down and explain some simple economics to them."

He added that if Mr Barroso wanted to test the mood in Britain "then he can call for a referendum on both the euro and the Lisbon Treaty so that the people of Britain can tell him where to go".

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Re: Something you want to tell us Gordo?
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2008, 12:18:14 PM »
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"I know that the majority in Britain are still opposed, but there is a period of consideration under way and the people who matter in Britain are currently thinking about it," he said.

Cheeky twat ~ The people who matter are the electorate and he won't be so keen to listen to his people who matter in Britain once they have been thrown out of office.
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Re: Something you want to tell us Gordo?
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2008, 12:39:35 PM »
That seems constant with the degree of arrogance the EU has given the amount of barking laws and regulations they have come up with in the past no matter how they may cock up some of their members..
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Re: Something you want to tell us Gordo?
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2008, 02:09:08 PM »
I'll bring Euros back with me on the 15th then...?  whistle:
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Re: Something you want to tell us Gordo?
« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2008, 02:14:02 PM »
Yes. They should tuck in nicely in the coffin.  whistle: Good padding for your baldy bonce.  whistle:

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Re: Something you want to tell us Gordo?
« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2008, 02:18:23 PM »
Ahem Wench. This is the Commons  evil:
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Re: Something you want to tell us Gordo?
« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2008, 02:22:52 PM »
But a good plan to bring Euros ~ you'll get a decent number of £GB in exchange.
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Re: Something you want to tell us Gordo?
« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2008, 02:50:33 PM »
But a good plan to bring Euros ~ you'll get a decent number of £GB in exchange.

€1 = £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££'s  cloud9:
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Re: Something you want to tell us Gordo?
« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2008, 03:06:56 PM »
But a good plan to bring Euros ~ you'll get a decent number of £GB in exchange.

€1 = £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££'s  cloud9:

Well not quite ~ last time I looked  €1 = £0.83   point:
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Re: Something you want to tell us Gordo?
« Reply #9 on: December 01, 2008, 03:08:27 PM »
But a good plan to bring Euros ~ you'll get a decent number of £GB in exchange.

€1 = £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££'s  cloud9:

Unfortunately when you get here anything you want to buy = £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££'s 
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Re: Something you want to tell us Gordo?
« Reply #10 on: December 01, 2008, 03:10:12 PM »
But a good plan to bring Euros ~ you'll get a decent number of £GB in exchange.

€1 = £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££'s  cloud9:

Unfortunately when you get here anything you want to buy = £££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££'s 
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Re: Something you want to tell us Gordo?
« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2008, 04:18:39 PM »
But VAT is only 15%.SPEND!

Oh, Woolies has gone bust  noooo:
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