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Offline Grumpmeister

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Britishness Day.
« on: June 05, 2007, 03:41:48 PM »
I could be wrong here bt I get hte impression that the majority of people in scotland wales and even a large part of britain couldnt care less about the british identity so why waste money on something like this.

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A national day to promote a stronger sense of British identity, and prevent communities from becoming more divided, has been suggested by two ministers.
Communities Secretary Ruth Kelly and Immigration Minister Liam Byrne say it could be a new bank holiday.

Ms Kelly told the BBC: "The point of it would be to celebrate the contribution that we all make to society."

In a pamphlet on the plan the ministers also suggest immigrants could have the chance to "earn" British citizenship.

Under a points-based system, credit would be given to migrants for doing voluntary work but lost for breaking the law.

Ms Kelly told BBC Radio 4's Today programme that a Britain day would recognise the "local focus" of people's contribution to society in particular.

"It might be, for instance, that local areas come together, they decide for themselves about the contribution that they might make, " she said.

"And then people who live in that area would have the opportunity to get involved in local volunteering, local service to their neighbours, and to celebrate their sense of being a citizen of the country,".

'Neighbour contracts'

The two ministers say UK communities need a stronger sense of what they have in common, and they say the proposed national day would celebrate British values and achievements.

Mr Byrne said: "At a time when we face the threat of a new extremism, I just think it's important now for the law-abiding majority to stand up for the values that we've got in common.

WHICH EVENT COULD DAY MARK?

Magna Carta: 27%
VE Day: 21%
D-Day: 14%
Armistice Day: 11%
Trafalgar victory: 10%
Slave trade abolished: 6%
Napoleon's defeat: 4%
Churchill's birth: 3%
Cromwellian republic: 2%
Reform Act: 2%

Source: BBC History magazine, 2006 survey

"One of the ways that we can do that is just taking a bit of time out each year to actually celebrate what we're proudest of in this country."

One of the ministers' suggestions is for "good neighbour contracts" setting out rights and duties for all people new to the UK.

Young people could receive "citizens' packs" when they come of age, setting out what is expected of adults.

These would give information on voter registration, volunteering opportunities and expectations of what they might be asked to undertake, such as jury service.

Debt of gratitude

Other suggestions for how Britain Day might take shape, made in the pamphlet for the left-of-centre think tank the Fabian Society, include:


Celebrating civic values, local heritage and opportunities to get involved in local life

Holding local "citizenship ceremonies"

Celebrating and promoting voluntary work in communities

Showing a debt of gratitude to war veterans who helped to secure freedoms

The Queen's state opening of Parliament speech could be followed by a "State of the Nation" address from the prime minister

Well that would be a short speech. "*cough* Well, this country is buggered"

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Prime-minister-in-waiting Gordon Brown has himself previously floated the idea of day to promote the nation's identity.

In a speech in 2006, he said it was important the union jack was recaptured from the far-right and that promoting integration had become even more important since the previous year's 7 July London suicide bombings.

BBC News political editor Nick Robinson said Mr Brown has wondered privately why young British men blew themselves and their fellow citizens up, when in the US, where they celebrate their citizenship much more, young Muslim men had not done the same.

In 2006, a survey by BBC History magazine suggested the anniversary of the signing of Magna Carta in 1215 would be the most popular day for a Britain Day.

The 15 June date was favoured by 27% of the 5,002 people polled, ahead of VE Day (8 May) with 21%, and D-Day (6 June) with 14%.

Mind you there have been some alternative days suggested, you've got to love some of the ones on the BBC 'have your say' site:

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"How about an incompetent politician day?
One day a year those politicians who have done something stupid, reprehensible or against the public interest are put in the stocks (with their failings on a board to the side of them) and the public are invited to pelt them with rotten fruit.
Its environmentally friendly, celebrates good British traditions and acts an incentive to keep them in line." Ian Smith, London



One day a year wouldn't be enough...

I'm not sure there would be enough fruit in the world though rubschin:
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Re: Britishness Day.
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2007, 04:30:06 PM »
I'm always ready to have another Bank Holiday but June wouldn't be suitable as we already have two in May. I'm surprised Blair hasn't suggested the 4th of July.

Then we could borrow the state flag of Hawaii:



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Re: Britishness Day.
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2007, 06:16:48 PM »
I reckon they should wait until either Thatcher or Blair drop dead and we'll have a holiday then

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Re: Britishness Day.
« Reply #3 on: June 06, 2007, 05:17:50 PM »
When I heard Kelly spouting this drivel yesterday on R4's Today programme I was in bed. Bed, for me, is sanctuary, a safe place away from the mayhem of the outside world. Hearing this voice (and let's face it, it's a man's voice) amidst my slumbers first induced a distinct distaste in the mouth; I thought perhaps I was having a nightmare. Then as the reality of it dawned, the distaste developed into digust and really I thought I was going to vomit  sick2:

This 'orrible androgenous neulabor robotnik makes my skin crawl. I'll celebrate Britishness when she / it is removed from power and loses her seat in the House. evil:
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Re: Britishness Day.
« Reply #4 on: June 06, 2007, 05:22:20 PM »
Lets be honest, its a mans face as well  eeek:

As an idea to combat extremism by creating a common british identity its bleedin ludicrous although I wouldnt say no to another bank holiday.

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Re: Britishness Day.
« Reply #5 on: June 06, 2007, 05:52:07 PM »
... another bank holiday.

Fair enough. So, let's pick a day that has some real meaning. I think there's a day in Jan/ Feb when statistically everybody is their wit's end... divorce, suicide, the lot. Pick that day and call it "Oh Fuckit Bank Holday" or something  ;)

Oh, and thanks for the reminder about her face  sick2: evil:
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