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Offline Just One More

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Euthanasia
« on: May 17, 2008, 10:11:45 PM »
Apologies in advance if this subject causes upset but I need to get this one off my chest

I have just returned from the hospice where a good friend is probably seeing out his last 24/48 hours or so with us. I’ve seen him four times since Monday and watched his condition worsening considerably by the day. Tom was a man that worked hard every day of his life and continued to do so well into his retirement. On Monday it was taking all his strength to speak a sentence, by tonight he is totally “out of it”, pumped full of morphine and god knows what else, eyes closed, not really responding to those around him. It was sad but pleasing to see him squeeze his son’s hands tight when they arrived, so he is aware of some things.

If I had let one of my dogs suffer like Tom has, I would be prosecuted, I only hope that when my time comes that it is quick, because I don’t want my friends and family to go through what Tom and his family have
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Re: Euthanasia
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2008, 05:47:03 AM »
I sympathise.

It is quite outrageous the way the medical profession interfere to keep people alive when they are clearly past the point where they have any quality of life. I don’t know if it has always been thus or if it is a more recent thing in fear of litigation.

Thankfully they respected my mother’s right to refuse treatment but there don’t appear to be firm rules which govern what they can do.

I’m all for euthanasia – old age is a cruel killer and I’m sure many of us would choose to check out much earlier than we are currently allowed to by medical science and bizarre unwritten ‘rules’.
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Re: Euthanasia
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2008, 10:49:14 AM »
I agree. I wouldn't want to hang around in that condition.Docotros have been quietly overdosing the dying on morphine for years. NOwadays they are prolly worried about being arrested or summat.
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Re: Euthanasia
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2008, 12:00:18 PM »
I agree. I wouldn't want to hang around in that condition.Docotros have been quietly overdosing the dying on morphine for years. NOwadays they are prolly worried about being arrested or summat.

I Know this subject is very fragile as Dr's are scared so there hands are tied and sometimes us family want to keep hold of our loved ones, i remember watching my mum struggling with cancer in her last two months of life, where she was just lying in bed with nappies on being fed by liquid food, probably in pain waiting to die, we had her at home which was what she wanted, it was sad but a relief when she did eventually pass away although one of worse times of my life, she was only 61 too. my dad got diagnosed with secondary liver cancer in 04 but although it sounds awful he luckily died within three weeks of it  so never really suffered the pain, after them giving him 1 yr, still makes me very sad to lose them but cancer an other conditions are so cruel.
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Re: Euthanasia
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2008, 12:22:30 PM »
My brother and I have an "agreement" about this. Trouble is one of us will be left to do it on his own.
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Re: Euthanasia
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2008, 07:16:26 PM »
What JOM describes is what I had to go through with both parents. A long, distressing and exhausting process. I had thought at the time to air it in 'another place' but decided against doing so.

On the maternal side it was a case of 'let nature take its course'; months of gradual decline followed by four or five days and nights of edging toward the final rotating door. I slept on the floor, witnessed and attended each and every step down, until the last breath. But that was her wish - no interference - no speeding up or slowing down. In her case euthanasia would have been against her wishes.

On the paternal side it was different; the doses of morphine were gradually increased to ease the pain, the reluctance to let go. Witnessing the fear of passing was the worst. Someone once said, and I paraphrase, that females often gladly relinquish the fight knowing they can do nothing, but men become afeared to the last that they can't change a thing.

Each and every passing is uniquely different; it is a point in time and to make it of one's own choosing is a luxury that perhaps few of us can afford. To make a choice however, voluntary euthanasia, when of sound mind, that one's life should be terminated when the struggle is clearly over... yes, I'd go with that.


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Re: Euthanasia
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2008, 07:39:20 AM »
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Re: Euthanasia
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2008, 10:53:23 AM »
Apologies in advance if this subject causes upset but I need to get this one off my chest

I have just returned from the hospice where a good friend is probably seeing out his last 24/48 hours or so with us. I’ve seen him four times since Monday and watched his condition worsening considerably by the day. Tom was a man that worked hard every day of his life and continued to do so well into his retirement. On Monday it was taking all his strength to speak a sentence, by tonight he is totally “out of it”, pumped full of morphine and god knows what else, eyes closed, not really responding to those around him. It was sad but pleasing to see him squeeze his son’s hands tight when they arrived, so he is aware of some things.

If I had let one of my dogs suffer like Tom has, I would be prosecuted, I only hope that when my time comes that it is quick, because I don’t want my friends and family to go through what Tom and his family have

I don't think you will find any of us here disagreeing with you. I've been a firm supporter of euthanasia ever since I knew what it was. How we can allow an animal the dignity of dying without suffering I don't see why we can't afford a human the same thing. Living wills stipulating the prefered course of action in these sorts of situations are the way forward.

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Re: Euthanasia
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2008, 10:55:58 AM »
My old mum died propped up in her own bed reading, with her dinner on a low light in the oven. NO warning at all.

Nice way to go, but rare.
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Re: Euthanasia
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2008, 10:57:04 AM »
Best way if possible I agree.