Meanwhile suffer the little children

[Snoopy]

A Fabian "report" suggests that children whose parents do not permit them to be pumped full of dubious vacinations whilst their immune systems are too immature to cope with them should be denied Family Allowance (specifically designed to ensure ALL children have a basic minimum) and a NuLabour MP has jumped up to denounce the aforementioned caring parents and said that the unvacinated children should also be denied access to schooling (which, as all parents know, is a legal obligation).

I wonder what will be next. All redhaired children to be drowned at birth in case they are witches? All children with a birthmark to be burnt as potential devil worshippers? All female children to be circumcised in case they grow up to enjoy sex? (Sorry we've already got that one) They'll be wanting us to send children down the mines and up chimneys before too long.

Arseholes!

These people should be taken out and shot as an act of mercy to the rest of us.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/7392510.stm

[Uncle Mort]

Vaccinations are not 'dubious' they work very well - think polio.

There is a case for vaccinations to be made compulsory so as to reach 'herd immunity' but denying benefits or schooling is not the answer.

[Snoopy]

Specifically the Fabian Society refers to the triple MMR vacination. There is no reason that this cannot be given, as it used to be, as three separate vacinations spread over a period of time prior to the child starting school but "someone" has degreed that in the UK it will only be administered as a triple vacination. There is still a strong argument that this massive, mixed dose of vacines can prove harmful to the immature immune systems of some very young children.

In our own case my daughter had the triple vaciniation as a toddler but then they brought the age down even lower and doubts were raised by some specialists and parents. After careful consideration we decided to refuse to have the triple MMR vacination administered to either of the boys. (They are 5 and 7 years younger than their sister).

There is a strong possibility that the problems with Asthma and Exzema suffered by our youngest are as a direct result of multi vacinations (NOT MMR) given as a matter of routine when he was 6 weeks old. His Eczema did not start until a rash developed, firstly at the site of the multi jab, within 7 days of the vacination. This theory was dismissed by our then GP and subsequent "specialists" until fairly recently when a young consultant at our local hospital admitted that it was a strong possibility that the multi vacinations at such a young age had indeed caused an over reaction by the child's immune system (and that is what Exzema and Asthma both are) but he cautioned that (i) he would not be prepared to say so in court and (ii) that there was insufficent research on the subject to even go to court with.

This whole matter has become a test of wills between the legistation and the legislated. Many countries do administer the three as individual vacinations because their electorate want it that way but in the UK minds have been closed to all argument on the grounds that MPs and in particular Government Knows Best! I for one am utterly p*ssed off at these people claiming to know better than me what is good for me and mine. I also object strongly to them being described by themselves and the media as our "Leaders". They are not, they are representatives of those who elected them and as such should be representing our views .... NOT telling us what to do and think.
Frankly I wouldn't trust a single one of them to lead a carnival parade.

[Mrs TG]

Will we ever know what is right or wrong ? my kids all had triple ( i think) as nearly 21 yrs ago now. What really annoys me is the cost of going private for seperate vaccs by unregelated private clinics! who are charging hundreds, so people think they getting the safe/best because they pay ! not always the case though is it. i know a little of this due to working in the health sector, but still at a loss to know who to beleive. 

[Snoopy]

To expand upon my previous.
My littlest, as I said, suffers from Asthma and Eczema ~ both of which are extreme allergic reactions during which his immune system overreacts and basically tries to fight his own body which can and has resulted in him suffering an Anaphylactic fit. Everywhere the child goes, daily to school, trips out with us, visits to his grandmother, school trip to the pantomime, cub scouts ~ anywhere and everywhere we either have to be with him or make arrangements for a qualified first-aider to be present carrying adrenalin filled syringes. His main allergies are to eggs and nuts although he is in fact allergic to most things to a greater or lesser degree but eggs and nut would prove fatal. As he grows older he will be able to self administer the adrenalin, if he has the time, but at the age of 7 that is not yet an option. Most of the school staff are very supportive but his current class teacher refuses to take the responsibilty so we have had to have a classroom assistant trained to carry out the emergency procedure.

And what do they grow most vaccines on? ..... Eggs. For that simple reason alone we cannot permit him to have the MMR. And the cause, as I said, appears to have been that his immature, six week old, immune system overreacted to vaccinations, one of which was grown on eggs. It isn't rocket science but there is always someone who knows better ~ usually those elected representatives who believe in "one size fits all" solutions.

The only way that his consultant would permit him to have the MMR would, he has told us, be in the intensive care unit with a full "crash team" standing by the bed and even then he would rate his chances of survival without severe and permanent damage at less than 30%. But nulabour want him denied an education?

[Mrs TG]

Your poor child, must be a worry, its a stupid idea or even suggestion as you said, cant condemn people for trusting there own Instincts and beliefs and common sense.

[Snoopy]

Thanks for the concern ~ yes it is a worry but he cheerfully accepts it as part of life. Well most of the time.... very occasionally he has a little weep and says "it's not fair, why am I like this" and then I usually cry too.

[Mrs TG]

So this is with him for rest of life i assume? god i would be really wrapping him up in cotton wool but you cant can you. they say kids turn you into nervous wrecks it must be double worse for you.

[Snoopy]

He "may" grow out of some of it but the nut allergy is his for life they say.