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Re: May Day Elections
« Reply #45 on: May 02, 2008, 01:52:46 PM »
All I can say is that I turned out 100%. So did a neighbour of mine, I saw him!

Where did they claim 60%? Was it Humphries?
We expected 110% of you!  cussing:
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Re: May Day Elections
« Reply #46 on: May 02, 2008, 01:55:09 PM »
All I can say is that I turned out 100%. So did a neighbour of mine, I saw him!

Where did they claim 60%? Was it Humphries?

Who else  ::)

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Re: May Day Elections
« Reply #47 on: May 02, 2008, 01:59:59 PM »
We expected 110% of you!  cussing:

The 10% went to my agent.  cool14:
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Re: May Day Elections
« Reply #48 on: May 02, 2008, 02:45:34 PM »
Thankfully the BNP ****ers didnt make any headway.  happy088

Interestingly when I did an online survery a while ago they were the party my views were most closely allied to.  eeek:

That applies to most of us ~ the problem is that their printed aims and policies do look reasonable and in line with popular thinking... their agenda is, however, very different. That is what makes them so dangerous.

So why is there not a party which offers said aims and policies, but without the crystalnacht undercurrent?

Partly to answer my own question, "reasonable" policies that we would support, such as real punishment in prisons, reduced benefits for scroungers and the workshy and so on, would be vote losers with the bulk of the electorate.

The small success seen by the BNP is mostly down to their appeal to the base instincts of some traditional English "working class", who would rather see the country rid of Pakis, Coons and Polacks at any price.

Good question.

For a start i beleive the 'crystalnacht undercurrent' is not confined to the 'working class'. Far from it. Racism knows no social boundaries. And racism is what it's all about. Everything else they spout on about is window dressing behind which are thugs, idiots, bullies and behind them the really dangerous power hungry ones.



Which is sort of what I was trying to get at. If the BNP polled more votes would a non-hitlertarian individual put together a party that wasn't all cryslanachty? Or even would one of the major parties take notice and adopt some of their more "normal" agenda.

I don't come across very well. It makes me sound like a biggoted arsehole and I'm really not.

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Re: May Day Elections
« Reply #49 on: May 02, 2008, 03:07:24 PM »
It is now 1600 hours on the day after the election. I know that some councils like to "race" to get their results in but here in Denbighshire there seems to be a perverse pride in taking as long as possible to do the count. So far all but one Ward has been declared ..... a total of 42026 votes have been counted and some 30 spoilt papers. What has taken them so long? I swear there can only be the returning officer and two clerks to do the job.
They still have the Community Councils to do. What's the betting that they adjourn at 1700 and put that task off until Tuesday?
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Re: May Day Elections
« Reply #50 on: May 02, 2008, 03:29:22 PM »
At Last!
The Tories have taken Denbighshire from the Independents but I suppose they will say "No overall control"

Conservative           18
Independent      13
Labour             7
Plaid Cymru         8
Liberal Democrat    1
TOTAL       47
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Re: May Day Elections
« Reply #51 on: May 02, 2008, 04:06:29 PM »
Thankfully the BNP ****ers didnt make any headway.  happy088

Interestingly when I did an online survery a while ago they were the party my views were most closely allied to.  eeek:

That applies to most of us ~ the problem is that their printed aims and policies do look reasonable and in line with popular thinking... their agenda is, however, very different. That is what makes them so dangerous.

So why is there not a party which offers said aims and policies, but without the crystalnacht undercurrent?

Partly to answer my own question, "reasonable" policies that we would support, such as real punishment in prisons, reduced benefits for scroungers and the workshy and so on, would be vote losers with the bulk of the electorate.

The small success seen by the BNP is mostly down to their appeal to the base instincts of some traditional English "working class", who would rather see the country rid of Pakis, Coons and Polacks at any price.

Good question.

For a start i beleive the 'crystalnacht undercurrent' is not confined to the 'working class'. Far from it. Racism knows no social boundaries. And racism is what it's all about. Everything else they spout on about is window dressing behind which are thugs, idiots, bullies and behind them the really dangerous power hungry ones.



Which is sort of what I was trying to get at. If the BNP polled more votes would a non-hitlertarian individual put together a party that wasn't all cryslanachty? Or even would one of the major parties take notice and adopt some of their more "normal" agenda.

I don't come across very well. It makes me sound like a biggoted arsehole and I'm really not.
I agree with you…

I’d like to see the BNP get a large %age of the vote. They are unelectable but such an event would give a huge kick to the other two parties.

We all know that if Labour get kicked-out at the next election the Tories will get in and there will be… more of pretty much the same. Green issues, tax, the environment, etc.

We need them to learn that Joe Public doesn’t really give a toss about the number of plastic bags that Tesco give away but does care that HMG takes 80% of the cost of a litre of petrol and pisses it away on projects that were never mentioned in their manifesto.
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Re: May Day Elections
« Reply #52 on: May 02, 2008, 04:10:57 PM »
@ Snoopy:  happy088  Assuming that's what you wanted...

Prediction: Watch Ken go for Gordon's jugular when he concedes defeat! "Thanks for losing me my job, mate!"

With an extra 0.4 million votes on top of what they 'predicted', it looks like we won't see a result before 10pm  cry:
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Re: May Day Elections
« Reply #53 on: May 02, 2008, 04:14:57 PM »
bated breath all round then.

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Re: May Day Elections
« Reply #54 on: May 02, 2008, 04:16:32 PM »
@ Snoopy:  happy088  Assuming that's what you wanted...

Prediction: Watch Ken go for Gordon's jugular when he concedes defeat! "Thanks for losing me my job, mate!"

With an extra 0.4 million votes on top of what they 'predicted', it looks like we won't see a result before 10pm  cry:
It will be a bloodbath over the next few weeks I ‘spec!  cloud9:
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Re: May Day Elections
« Reply #55 on: May 02, 2008, 04:36:06 PM »
Party           Net +/-    Total       Net +/-
Conservative    12          65         252
Labour            -9           18       -310

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Re: May Day Elections
« Reply #56 on: May 02, 2008, 04:41:17 PM »
Recriminations aplenty. And as Snoopy said earlier, 11 years after TB entered No.10, the beginning of the end for NuLabour.

I think some Labour MPs are still in denial. I saw one earlier on TV (Leeds, I think) saying it was a mixed picture  eeek:




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Re: May Day Elections
« Reply #57 on: May 02, 2008, 08:45:12 PM »
-9... -331... bye!  point:
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Re: May Day Elections
« Reply #58 on: May 02, 2008, 09:07:38 PM »
10:00 pm here and still no result  evil:

I'm only a couple of miles west of city hall... I've a mind to nip down there and give 'em a boot  Banghead

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Re: May Day Elections
« Reply #59 on: May 02, 2008, 09:23:11 PM »
Go Boris! Sorted. And I'm a lifetime labour voter!  eeek:
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