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Offline Bar Wench

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Re: Film4 -Sci-Fi Season
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2008, 03:30:12 PM »
I wouldnt call Battle Royale a sci-fi

I wouldn't call the 1930s Frankenstein sci-fi either.

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Re: Film4 -Sci-Fi Season
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2008, 10:02:55 PM »
I wouldnt call Battle Royale a sci-fi

I wouldn't call the 1930s Frankenstein sci-fi either.
More of a docu-drama in 30's Germany perhaps?
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Re: Film4 -Sci-Fi Season
« Reply #17 on: April 29, 2008, 01:56:34 PM »
I wouldnt call Battle Royale a sci-fi

I wouldn't call the 1930s Frankenstein sci-fi either.

Having seen some of the locals in the out of the way cornish villages I'd have said it was a documentary  eeek:
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Re: Film4 -Sci-Fi Season
« Reply #18 on: April 29, 2008, 02:15:04 PM »
I wouldnt call Battle Royale a sci-fi

I wouldn't call the 1930s Frankenstein sci-fi either.

But it is. Although it's difficult to get a precise definition of Science Fiction, Frankenstien contains at it's core the construction and animation of a being using scientific principles and the consequences thereafter. Very much a SF theme.

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Re: Film4 -Sci-Fi Season
« Reply #19 on: April 29, 2008, 02:39:01 PM »
It is based on a novel by Shelley! It can't be sci-fi. It is predominantly a classic adaptation.

Although it could be considered in part sci-fi thematically it is far more than that.

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Re: Film4 -Sci-Fi Season
« Reply #20 on: April 29, 2008, 02:58:57 PM »
It is based on a novel by Shelley! It can't be sci-fi. It is predominantly a classic adaptation.

Although it could be considered in part sci-fi thematically it is far more than that.

Why can't a 'classic' be sci-fi? Mary Shelley's novel is pure science fiction. Read this

It (sci-fi) is the most vivid and direct chronicler of our anxieties about the world and ourselves, what Mary Shelley called “the mysterious fears of our nature”. It was Shelley’s Frankenstein that was, Aldiss argues in his superb history of the genre, Billion Year Spree, the first true SF novel. Her big idea – and it is the big idea that haunts all SF – was that our imperious ingenuity would backfire horribly. Frankenstein’s monster runs amok, the Skynet computer in the Terminator films decides to destroy humanity, Philip K Dick’s robots think they are human, and his humans fear they might be robots

There was this couplet back in the 60s when SF was breaking into mainstream literature.


"It's no good," they bellow till we're deaf.
"But this looks good."--"Well, then, it's not SF!"


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Re: Film4 -Sci-Fi Season
« Reply #21 on: April 29, 2008, 03:03:48 PM »
It is based on a novel by Shelley! It can't be sci-fi. It is predominantly a classic adaptation.

Although it could be considered in part sci-fi thematically it is far more than that.

Using the same logic though Wenchy one of the most famous classic sci-fi films of all time wouldnt fit either. Forbidden Planet was based on Shakespeare's 'The Tempest'.
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Re: Film4 -Sci-Fi Season
« Reply #22 on: April 29, 2008, 03:12:59 PM »
True.  rubschin:

I am having to rethink my personal classification of these things.

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Re: Film4 -Sci-Fi Season
« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2008, 05:23:53 PM »
It is based on a novel by Shelley! It can't be sci-fi.

Agreed, in fact I didn't know she wrote at all.



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Re: Film4 -Sci-Fi Season
« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2008, 05:25:39 PM »
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Re: Film4 -Sci-Fi Season
« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2008, 05:42:56 PM »
True.  rubschin:

I am having to rethink my personal classification of these things.

I stayed up far too late last night watching The Fly; a distant tribute to Kafka's Metamorphosis, so I think it's grey area  confused:
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Re: Film4 -Sci-Fi Season
« Reply #26 on: April 29, 2008, 06:03:04 PM »
True.  rubschin:

I am having to rethink my personal classification of these things.

I stayed up far too late last night watching The Fly; a distant tribute to Kafka's Metamorphosis, so I think it's grey area  confused:

Which of Franz's works covered the agony of watching late night TV then?

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Re: Film4 -Sci-Fi Season
« Reply #27 on: April 29, 2008, 06:07:36 PM »
Like the Buddhist said to the hot dog vendor...
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