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Overstaying students 'can remain'
« on: January 07, 2008, 10:12:12 AM »
Quote from: BBC Web Shite
Immigration officers have been told not to deport foreign students who overstay their visas, unless they have broken other laws, a leaked memo reveals.
 
The Border and Immigration Agency memo, obtained by the Daily Mail, was written after the agency's head intervened to stop a student's removal last month.

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Heard this fiasco on the radio this morning…

Basically, there are now no restrictions on immigration at all… providing you can claim to be a ‘student’ you have no need to worry about the inconvenience of actually going home when your visa expires…  Banghead
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Re: Overstaying students 'can remain'
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2008, 10:15:19 AM »
Have you noticed how like those "Clever/Dumb Balance" adverts this government has become?
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Re: Overstaying students 'can remain'
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2008, 10:17:43 AM »
Have you noticed how like those "Clever/Dumb Balance" adverts this government has become?
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Not much of the clever in evidence tho...  noooo:
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Re: Overstaying students 'can remain'
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2008, 10:19:43 AM »
Have you noticed how like those "Clever/Dumb Balance" adverts this government has become?
lol: lol: lol:
Not much of the clever in evidence tho...  noooo:

No ~ I think the clever bits are being done elsewhere. GB is just restoring the balance.
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Re: Overstaying students 'can remain'
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2008, 10:24:40 AM »
It seems to me that this only applies to those students who are a little tardy in extending their visa after the expiry date. Not carte blanc to remain here indefinitely without a visa. Prior to a law change on 1st September there would have been leeway to grant a backdated visa. A commonsense approach taken away and which the memo is trying to redress.

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Re: Overstaying students 'can remain'
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2008, 10:26:20 AM »
It seems to me that this only applies to those students who are a little tardy in extending their visa after the expiry date. Not carte blanc to remain here indefinitely without a visa. Prior to a law change on 1st September there would have been leeway to grant a backdated visa. A commonsense approach taken away and which the memo is trying to redress.
But if you do overstay your visa and they’ve decided not to deport students that do then…  whistle:
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Re: Overstaying students 'can remain'
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2008, 10:37:23 AM »
Since the issuing of a visa would require a letter from an accredited university offering the student a course, which somebody has to pay for (often their parents or government but not, for once, us) then the visa would be for the duration of the course. There is no need for an extension surely. Once the course is finished, and the student will well know when that date is, they can leave. It's not as if it is a last minute thing. They have, after all, three years to think about it plus all the "finals" etc to go through so they know well enough when their visa is due to expire.
Mrs Snoopy started on a post graduate course in October 2006 ~ she knows and has known all along, that it will end on 26th May 2008. She also knows that if she wishes to take another course or perhaps a PHD to follow on from the current course she must apply for a place at least 6 months before it is due to commence. The plain fact is that these "students" never had any intention of going home at the end of their studies.
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Re: Overstaying students 'can remain'
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2008, 10:40:18 AM »
Since the issuing of a visa would require a letter from an accredited university offering the student a course, which somebody has to pay for (often their parents or government but not, for once, us) then the visa would be for the duration of the course. There is no need for an extension surely. Once the course is finished, and the student will well know when that date is, they can leave. It's not as if it is a last minute thing. They have, after all, three years to think about it plus all the "finals" etc to go through so they know well enough when their visa is due to expire.
Mrs Snoopy started on a post graduate course in October 2006 ~ she knows and has known all along, that it will end on 26th May 2008. She also knows that if she wishes to take another course or perhaps a PHD to follow on from the current course she must apply for a place at least 6 months before it is due to commence. The plain fact is that these "students" never had any intention of going home at the end of their studies.
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Re: Overstaying students 'can remain'
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2008, 10:41:00 AM »
Wot ~ Back to Essex?


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« Reply #9 on: January 07, 2008, 10:41:53 AM »
Wot ~ Back to Essex?


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Re: Overstaying students 'can remain'
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2008, 10:43:27 AM »
Wot ~ Back to Essex?


 rubschin: Now that's an idea.  whistle:
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« Reply #11 on: January 07, 2008, 10:49:34 AM »
Wot ~ Back to Essex?


 rubschin: Now that's an idea.  whistle:
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I don't think she owns any white sling-backs anymore. lol:
She could buy some in the sales...
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Re: Overstaying students 'can remain'
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2008, 10:51:09 AM »
Wot ~ Back to Essex?


 rubschin: Now that's an idea.  whistle:
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I don't think she owns any white sling-backs anymore. lol:
She could buy some in the sales...

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Re: Overstaying students 'can remain'
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2008, 11:00:43 AM »
Wandering a bit off topic here.

If the government has been granting extensions for whatever purpose I must assume that the students have the necessary courses, paperwork or whatever that is required. The example that caused this memo to be written implied this. It's those that don't apply for an extension that should be chased. Unfortunately the resources aren't available.

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Re: Overstaying students 'can remain'
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2008, 04:44:48 PM »
I've decided that "oversea students" are taking us for suckers.

Bogus college check catches 124

No visa extensions should be permitted.

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