Piss Boiling .!!!

[Steve]

Even if true (and I doubt it) just sounds like the logic of 'Keith Richards took heroin so we all should'

You're right, I'm sure it didn't happen...

That's outside.

Mask rules have only applied indoors for a very long time because that's where the big issue is
 
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/covid-19-coronavirus-restrictions-what-you-can-and-cannot-do#keeping-yourself-and-others-safe

[Barman]

Even if true (and I doubt it) just sounds like the logic of 'Keith Richards took heroin so we all should'

You're right, I'm sure it didn't happen...

That's outside.

Mask rules have only applied indoors for a very long time because that's where the big issue is
 
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/covid-19-coronavirus-restrictions-what-you-can-and-cannot-do#keeping-yourself-and-others-safe

And social distancing...? Just indoors too...? 

Do you honestly believe that this lot, chumming up to each other outdoors with no social distancing put masks on as soon as they stepped inside?


I've got a lovely bridge for you Steve!

[Steve]

  

[Nick]

For masks to have made any real difference the governments would have had to mandated using n95, ffp3 and possibly kn95 analogues only and having to change them every few hours to ensure they don't absorb so much moisture from our breath that they allow any virus particles through. This was never going to happen though because the stocks were just not available. Instead we end up with people wearing things like neck gaiters thinking that it will provide protection 

Oh for goodness sake Meister, masks are all about protecting people from the wearer by reducing the aerosol size and range

Exactly. A lot of people, including in supermarkets and on the tram today just do not get the idea that masks, of whatever sort, are there to protect others and not primarily the wearer. When the restrictions are lifted I will continue to wear a mask in the obvious settings TO PROTECT OTHERS. My obvious concern is that the morons (like all the university students at the end of my road) or the anti vaxxers and people who are just stupid will ditch the masks (many already have) as they just don't get the point,. Personal responsiblility has to include social responsibility.

[apc2010]

For masks to have made any real difference the governments would have had to mandated using n95, ffp3 and possibly kn95 analogues only and having to change them every few hours to ensure they don't absorb so much moisture from our breath that they allow any virus particles through. This was never going to happen though because the stocks were just not available. Instead we end up with people wearing things like neck gaiters thinking that it will provide protection 

Oh for goodness sake Meister, masks are all about protecting people from the wearer by reducing the aerosol size and range

Exactly. A lot of people, including in supermarkets and on the tram today just do not get the idea that masks, of whatever sort, are there to protect others and not primarily the wearer. When the restrictions are lifted I will continue to wear a mask in the obvious settings TO PROTECT OTHERS. My obvious concern is that the morons (like all the university students at the end of my road) or the anti vaxxers and people who are just stupid will ditch the masks (many already have) as they just don't get the point,. Personal responsiblility has to include social responsibility.

 

[Barman]

For masks to have made any real difference the governments would have had to mandated using n95, ffp3 and possibly kn95 analogues only and having to change them every few hours to ensure they don't absorb so much moisture from our breath that they allow any virus particles through. This was never going to happen though because the stocks were just not available. Instead we end up with people wearing things like neck gaiters thinking that it will provide protection 

Oh for goodness sake Meister, masks are all about protecting people from the wearer by reducing the aerosol size and range

Exactly. A lot of people, including in supermarkets and on the tram today just do not get the idea that masks, of whatever sort, are there to protect others and not primarily the wearer. When the restrictions are lifted I will continue to wear a mask in the obvious settings TO PROTECT OTHERS. My obvious concern is that the morons (like all the university students at the end of my road) or the anti vaxxers and people who are just stupid will ditch the masks (many already have) as they just don't get the point,. Personal responsiblility has to include social responsibility.

You are of course welcome to wear a mask for as long as you like! 

Me? I don't wear outside now (although that is illegal here) and I'll ditch inside use as soon as restrictions are lifted.

People need to be protected from me? Stay at home and away from me - don't make me wear a mask because of your issues.

Bollox to wearing a mask for the rest of my life because some people are vulnerable to illness that I may or may not be carrying...

[Nick]

Bollox to wearing a mask for the rest of my life because some people are vulnerable to illness that I may or may not be carrying...

And that is the problem!!

[Barman]

Bollox to wearing a mask for the rest of my life because some people are vulnerable to illness that I may or may not be carrying...

And that is the problem!!

But I may (or may not) have been carrying stuff around for the past 61 years...

In fact I'm sure (with hindsight) there have been occasions that I've felt a bit jubby but have still gone to work and have spread flu (or whatever) around to fellow workers and commuters...

But only now for some bizarre reason we some of us are obsessed about protecting our fellow man from the tiniest chance of contracting a disease that most people will need a test to know that they have... It is mental! 

And if our betters (and EUFA officials) don't need to abide by these ridiculous rules they have plucked out of thin air you can be damned sure I'm not going to! 

Lock yourself away if that makes you feel safe - but increasing number of people are not prepared to do so... When is the next mass march in London BTW...? 

[Steve]

So not just a river in Egypt then

[Barman]

So not just a river in Egypt then

No Steve...

Feel free to keep wearing your mask while the rest of us get on with our lives tho... 

[Nick]

I can get on with my life AND wear a mask for 5 minutes in a local shop or on a short tram ride.  I see no conflict

[Barman]

I can get on with my life AND wear a mask for 5 minutes in a local shop or on a short tram ride.  I see no conflict

Good for you! 

I won't be... 

How long are you and Steve going to keep that up for...? 

[Nick]

Until it is no longer necessary. I do not know, and no one does, how long my vaccination is effective for. I look forward to a booster in a few months.

10 minutes a day of wearing a mask is no big imposition for me. I also wear seat belts, get vaccinated, insure my car, wash, contribute to the NHS, submit to security checks at airports like everyone else.

Shortly the Nodster will start chemo and will have to avoid all risk of infection. My cancer treatment was stopped because of risk of infection and can never resume. One can think of others not far from here who are enduring chemo and may also be at risk.

[Barman]

Until it is no longer necessary. I do not know, and no one does, how long my vaccination is effective for. I look forward to a booster in a few months.

10 minutes a day of wearing a mask is no big imposition for me. I also wear seat belts, get vaccinated, insure my car, wash, contribute to the NHS, submit to security checks at airports like everyone else.

Shortly the Nodster will start chemo and will have to avoid all risk of infection. My cancer treatment was stopped because of risk of infection and can never resume. One can think of others not far from here who are enduring chemo and may also be at risk.

Good for you! 

I'll be the mask-less one at the next pub get-together.... 

[Nick]

And I will give you a big kiss without telling you that I tested positive an hour earlier