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Offline Uncle Mort

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Diabetes
« on: November 22, 2018, 09:41:31 AM »
The BBC has got its knickers in a twist about the "alarming" rise in type 2 diabetes in those under 25 years old. It has risen to 7000 or about 10 times that was previously reported, That was issued a few months ago implying a lack of rigorous data collection rather than any real increase..
 
What it doesn't say is that represents 0.047% of those under 25 (excluding 0 - 4 years old)

So 99.953% don't have type 2 diabetes.

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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2018, 09:56:34 AM »
These stats never add up. Last week's was about breast cancer in people who wake up too early or summat.
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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2018, 10:55:17 AM »
They are often published by a charity with a vested interest in keeping the government funds (a.k.a. our taxes) rolling in.

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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2018, 11:58:35 AM »
The BBC has got its knickers in a twist about the "alarming" rise in type 2 diabetes in those under 25 years old. It has risen to 7000 or about 10 times that was previously reported, That was issued a few months ago implying a lack of rigorous data collection rather than any real increase..
 
What it doesn't say is that represents 0.047% of those under 25 (excluding 0 - 4 years old)

So 99.953% don't have type 2 diabetes.
Also, the figures have risen because GPs are now required to return the numbers and ages of diabetes patients.

99.99% of people who drink water die before their 100th birthday.
No more water for me then.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2018, 11:58:45 AM »
I just can't watch or listen to the BBC any more... take this example from yesterday...

Number of child gamblers quadruples in just two years

Quote from: BBC Webshite
The number of children classed as having a gambling problem has quadrupled to more than 50,000 in just two years, a report has claimed.

The Gambling Commission study suggests that 450,000 children aged 11 to 16 bet regularly, more than those who have taken drugs, smoked or drunk alcohol.

Bets with friends, slot machines, and scratchcards, were most popular.

A campaigner on the issue, Bishop of St Albans Right Reverend Alan Smith, called it a "generational scandal".

"Today's findings by the Gambling Commission makes worrying reading and serves as a warning to parents," he said.

The only problem being that it is completely untrue... ::)
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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2018, 12:46:20 PM »
The quality of journalism has deteriorated in the past few years. Now it seems 'copy and paste' from press releases coupled with the addition of a lurid headline to draw in readers. There is no critical analysis applied. Of course many readers don't get pass the headline.

No wonder there is an increase in 'fake news'

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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2018, 12:53:02 PM »
The quality of journalism has deteriorated in the past few years. Now it seems 'copy and paste' from press releases coupled with the addition of a lurid headline to draw in readers. There is no critical analysis applied. Of course many readers don't get pass the headline.

No wonder there is an increase in 'fake news'

Precisely... just click bait....  noooo:
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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2018, 01:02:05 PM »
I just can't watch or listen to the BBC any more... take this example from yesterday...

Number of child gamblers quadruples in just two years

Quote from: BBC Webshite
The number of children classed as having a gambling problem has quadrupled to more than 50,000 in just two years, a report has claimed.

The Gambling Commission study suggests that 450,000 children aged 11 to 16 bet regularly, more than those who have taken drugs, smoked or drunk alcohol.

Bets with friends, slot machines, and scratchcards, were most popular.

A campaigner on the issue, Bishop of St Albans Right Reverend Alan Smith, called it a "generational scandal".

"Today's findings by the Gambling Commission makes worrying reading and serves as a warning to parents," he said.

The only problem being that it is completely untrue... ::)
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But not sure that blog is any more reliable.  Look at the 2018 report and it clearly shows 16 year olds were looked at in previous studies.  Also the reported problem prevalence for ages that are reported in both tables do show significant increases (eg 13 year olds rise from 0.4% to 1.2%)

I'm also puzzled how the 2016 report table could add 5 numbers that clearly add to 2,155 and show it as adding to 2,128





Well, whatever nevermind

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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2018, 01:02:40 PM »
The BBC has got its knickers in a twist about the "alarming" rise in type 2 diabetes in those under 25 years old. It has risen to 7000 or about 10 times that was previously reported, That was issued a few months ago implying a lack of rigorous data collection rather than any real increase..
 
What it doesn't say is that represents 0.047% of those under 25 (excluding 0 - 4 years old)

So 99.953% don't have type 2 diabetes.
Also, the figures have risen because GPs are now required to return the numbers and ages of diabetes patients.

99.99% of people who drink water die before their 100th birthday.
No more water for me then.  :thumbsup:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Well, whatever nevermind

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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2018, 01:37:07 PM »
I just can't watch or listen to the BBC any more... take this example from yesterday...

Number of child gamblers quadruples in just two years

Quote from: BBC Webshite
The number of children classed as having a gambling problem has quadrupled to more than 50,000 in just two years, a report has claimed.

The Gambling Commission study suggests that 450,000 children aged 11 to 16 bet regularly, more than those who have taken drugs, smoked or drunk alcohol.

Bets with friends, slot machines, and scratchcards, were most popular.

A campaigner on the issue, Bishop of St Albans Right Reverend Alan Smith, called it a "generational scandal".

"Today's findings by the Gambling Commission makes worrying reading and serves as a warning to parents," he said.

The only problem being that it is completely untrue... ::)
eeek:

But not sure that blog is any more reliable.  Look at the 2018 report and it clearly shows 16 year olds were looked at in previous studies.  Also the reported problem prevalence for ages that are reported in both tables do show significant increases (eg 13 year olds rise from 0.4% to 1.2%)

I'm also puzzled how the 2016 report table could add 5 numbers that clearly add to 2,155 and show it as adding to 2,128

You also have to ask what constitutes a 'gambling problem' The assumption seems to be that if you gamble it's a problem.

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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2018, 02:07:21 PM »
I just can't watch or listen to the BBC any more... take this example from yesterday...

Number of child gamblers quadruples in just two years

Quote from: BBC Webshite
The number of children classed as having a gambling problem has quadrupled to more than 50,000 in just two years, a report has claimed.

The Gambling Commission study suggests that 450,000 children aged 11 to 16 bet regularly, more than those who have taken drugs, smoked or drunk alcohol.

Bets with friends, slot machines, and scratchcards, were most popular.

A campaigner on the issue, Bishop of St Albans Right Reverend Alan Smith, called it a "generational scandal".

"Today's findings by the Gambling Commission makes worrying reading and serves as a warning to parents," he said.

The only problem being that it is completely untrue... ::)
eeek:

But not sure that blog is any more reliable.  Look at the 2018 report and it clearly shows 16 year olds were looked at in previous studies.  Also the reported problem prevalence for ages that are reported in both tables do show significant increases (eg 13 year olds rise from 0.4% to 1.2%)

I'm also puzzled how the 2016 report table could add 5 numbers that clearly add to 2,155 and show it as adding to 2,128

You also have to ask what constitutes a 'gambling problem' The assumption seems to be that if you gamble it's a problem.
Nope, they give a full definition of how they work it out.  And they have 3 categories of gambling:  'not a problem', 'at risk' and 'problem'

Overwhelmingly most was in the  'not a problem' category
Well, whatever nevermind

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Re: Diabetes
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2018, 03:17:04 PM »
Nope, they give a full definition of how they work it out.  And they have 3 categories of gambling:  'not a problem', 'at risk' and 'problem'

Overwhelmingly most was in the  'not a problem' category

Good to see you using 'most' in its correct sense  ;)

So, gambling is not a problem, as is diabetes. Not what headlines have believe.