Train seat causes furore

[GROWLER]

Scroll down to the 'Train seat causes furore' story, to watch the video
Don't know how to link it directly into here.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/northwesttonight/latest_stories

I'm suprised no one from up here hasn't already discussed this item.
I for one applaud Mersey Rail for their stance on this zero tolerance AND the dirty little munter concerned.
Cub scout leader too!
Sadly though, the courts decided to let her off, probably because she appears to be 'a decent sort'.
Arse wipes.

Lets hope others follow suit.

There may be some hope for us after all, or is this the start of the revolution, and the weary public fight back?

[Barman]

Agree ? zero tolerance is the only way forward.

Have to wonder tho if she would have been taken to task if she was in a gang of hooded thugs?

[GROWLER]

Agree ? zero tolerance is the only way forward.

Have to wonder tho if she would have been taken to task if she was in a gang of hooded thugs?

Dunno, but that 'built like a brick shit 'ouse train rozzer' looked a bit handy.

[Bar Wench]

Utterly ridiculous! As you all know I am a regular user of public transport. Bugger prosecuting people for putting their feet on the seats how about actually prosecuting people who don't pay their fares? How about actually telling the mob of yoof to stop smoking? Actual stop people bringing their bikes on board during rush hour. I could go on and on and on. Feet on seats is anti-social yes, but there are an awful lot more important issues for them to be prosecuting on public transport.

[Darwins Selection]

I could go on and on and on.

I am sure you could my dear.

I trust the day finds you well and otherwise in good humour?

[Bar Wench]

I could go on and on and on.

I am sure you could my dear.

I trust the day finds you well and otherwise in good humour?

It did until I got on the sodding train and the ticket inspector asked everyone apart from the school/college kids to show their tickets. Really what is the point? I am writting, yet another, email to the railway company. 

[GROWLER]

Feet on seats is anti-social yes, but there are an awful lot more important issues for them to be prosecuting on public transport.

Agree, but I feel this is sending out the correct message to the anti social ones in our midst.
Step out of line by behaving like a scum bag, and you're nicked, and that will no doubt include such issues as fare evasion too.

Last time I went on Mersey Rail, about 3 years ago, i had to sit and watch this arrogant foul thuggy toilet rat sitting with his shitty feet on the seat, AND spitting on the floor.
 Sorry, but I don't want to be anywhere near that sort of crap thanks. I find that far more offensive than fare evasion, as serious as that is.

[Bar Wench]

Feet on seats is anti-social yes, but there are an awful lot more important issues for them to be prosecuting on public transport.

Agree, but I feel this is sending out the correct message to the anti social ones in our midst.
Step out of line by behaving like a scum bag, and you're nicked, and that will no doubt include such issues as fare evasion too.

Last time I went on Mersey Rail, about 3 years ago, i had to sit and watch this arrogant foul thuggy toilet rat sitting with his shitty feet on the seat, AND spitting on the floor.
 Sorry, but I don't want to be anywhere near that sort of crap thanks. I find that far more offensive than fare evasion, as serious as that is.

Problem is look at the woman that was prosecuted. She didn't seem to be from the anti-social element and that is because those "in charge" on the trains never approach them. So, I will get fined, prosecuted for not paying my fare putting my feet on the seats but the teenage hoodlum smoking the next carriage down will get passed over because "they" are afraid of them.

I'm all for sending a message but why do the generally law abiding have to be the ones that pay for sending it? Send it via one of their own kind and it will be far more effective IMHO.

[GROWLER]

Problem is look at the woman that was prosecuted. She didn't seem to be from the anti-social element

'Seem to be'?
Bit of an angelic face? No hoody? So?

SHE HAD HER FEET ON THE SEAT! = dirty anti social conduct.

What would you say if I came 'round to your house, spat on the carpet and put me dog shite ridden feet on your sofa?

[Nick]

"Would you like some of my special fruit salad?"

[Snoopy]

Issue on the spot fine, with 28 days to appeal/pay. Failure to pay ~ then go to court to collect the fine.
It works for speeding, parking and various other anti social spot fines. Why on earth waste all that time and public money going straight to court? Absolute nonsense. Yes she was in the wrong, yes she should pay the fixed penalty but these numpties have chosen to "Crack down" on an easy target because they don't have the balls to tackle the problems properly and are hoping to earn a reputation for "Tough Action" that will prevent further problems. They are very wrong. All they are doing is criminalising something that has been going on since trains were invented.
And as a Merseyside Tax Payer Growler you paid for that fiasco. If I were you I'd be asking them to justify the expense when it could have all been resolved for much less.

[Snoopy]

Problem is look at the woman that was prosecuted. She didn't seem to be from the anti-social element

'Seem to be'?
Bit of an angelic face? No hoody? So?

SHE HAD HER FEET ON THE SEAT! = dirty anti social conduct.

What would you say if I came 'round to your house, spat on the carpet and put me dog shite ridden feet on your sofa?

Oh that's easy ~ I wouldn't invite you again. Just like Mersey Rail have the option of telling her she may no longer use their trains. Simple, if you stop and think about it.

[Bar Wench]

Issue on the spot fine, with 28 days to appeal/pay. Failure to pay ~ then go to court to collect the fine.
It works for speeding, parking and various other anti social spot fines. Why on earth waste all that time and public money going straight to court? Absolute nonsense. Yes she was in the wrong, yes she should pay the fixed penalty but these numpties have chosen to "Crack down" on an easy target because they don't have the balls to tackle the problems properly and are hoping to earn a reputation for "Tough Action" that will prevent further problems. They are very wrong. All they are doing is criminalising something that has been going on since trains were invented.
And as a Merseyside Tax Payer Growler you paid for that fiasco. If I were you I'd be asking them to justify the expense when it could have all been resolved for much less.

Thank-you far more eloquently put than I was managing.

She should have been fined absolutely. But fine her on the spot don't take her to court. Take the pricks that were letting off fireworks in my carriage last year to court now THAT is anti-social behaviour!

[GROWLER]

Issue on the spot fine, with 28 days to appeal/pay. Failure to pay ~ then go to court to collect the fine.
It works for speeding, parking and various other anti social spot fines. Why on earth waste all that time and public money going straight to court? Absolute nonsense. Yes she was in the wrong, yes she should pay the fixed penalty but these numpties have chosen to "Crack down" on an easy target because they don't have the balls to tackle the problems properly and are hoping to earn a reputation for "Tough Action" that will prevent further problems. They are very wrong. All they are doing is criminalising something that has been going on since trains were invented.
And as a Merseyside Tax Payer Growler you paid for that fiasco. If I were you I'd be asking them to justify the expense when it could have all been resolved for much less.

 Take the pricks that were letting off fireworks in my carriage last year to court now THAT is anti-social behaviour!

Once again,  I AGREE!
I'm NOT condoning any of this other anti social behaviour, and yes, there are differing degrees of it. What i am saying is, well done Mersey Rail, for cracking down on the scourge of todays society....inconsideration and selfishness towards others. Hopefully we will see this as at least the  start of zero tolerance towards ALL anti social behaviour in public places, and for that i applaud them.

[GROWLER]

And as a Merseyside Tax Payer Growler you paid for that fiasco. If I were you I'd be asking them to justify the expense when it could have all been resolved for much less.

If it sends out the right message that we are no longer tolerating the basics of what is wrong with society today, then i for one consider it money well spent.
This is not simply about some selfish floozy with her Nikes on a seat, this is positive action towards the arse wipes of society in general.