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Re: Barman's All New Second-hand Shotgun Saga (by popular request)
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2016, 04:42:22 PM »
"We can probably rush it through in 3 weeks for a small fee"

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Re: Barman's All New Second-hand Shotgun Saga (by popular request)
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2016, 04:44:25 PM »
"We can probably rush it through in 3 weeks for a small fee"

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Re: Barman's All New Second-hand Shotgun Saga (by popular request)
« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2016, 04:53:56 PM »
"We can probably rush it through in 3 weeks for a small fee"

 lol: lol: lol:

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Which was more than the Moke was worth afterwards!  point:
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Re: Barman's All New Second-hand Shotgun Saga (by popular request)
« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2016, 05:03:18 PM »
"We can probably rush it through in 3 weeks for a small fee"

 lol: lol: lol:

 rubschin:

Well Miss T's mini-moke thing cost me 40 plus a bottle of brandy ........ Thumbs:

Which was more than the Moke was worth afterwards!  point:

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Re: Barman's All New Second-hand Shotgun Saga (by popular request)
« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2016, 05:15:24 PM »
And you are suprised why...... rubschin:

I'm sort of resigned to it now but I've been in four police stations for this and have to visit another this afternoon... Even by Cypriot standards this is a long drawn out thing...  lol:

Try getting permission to sell alcohol.......... noooo:  I even had to go to the church ..... noooo:

How did you not burst into flame the moment you crossed the threshold...  eeek:
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Re: Barman's All New Second-hand Shotgun Saga (by popular request)
« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2016, 05:27:10 PM »
Amazing stuff BM  :thumbsup:  and worthy: for the patience

I might have said something unfortunate or just shot someone

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To be fair my expectations were set quite low from the start...  ;)
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Re: Barman's All New Second-hand Shotgun Saga (by popular request)
« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2016, 05:39:57 PM »
Police Station #3
So, I was in Pafos today and thought I might as well give the police station a try and see if I could get the form completed... not that there is any rush now that we have to wait four weeks for the tax office... ::)

I roll up at the police station next to the fire station which I had always thought was the road traffic place... If you sit in KFC opposite you can watch an endless string of cars that park in the bus stop outside the police station while the owner rushes inside with the paperwork and cash to pay a parking or speeding ticket...
Sure enough, inside the signs all over the place direct you to the 'pay your parking ticket' window... I couldn't see anything else that might be to do with firearms or identity certification so I ventured into a random office and explained my predicament...

I don't speak or read Greek which is my bad. Generally speaking you don't have to as almost everywhere signs are presented in Greek and English (even road signs, street names, etc.). The official languages of Cyprus are Greek and Turkish but obviously because of the historic relationship with the Brits we are generally favoured...  cloud9:

A few places have tri-lingual signs but most government offices (and police stations!) have signs only in Greek. However, whenever we have thrown ourselves on the mercy of a random employee they have always been helpful and shown us where we needed to go or often actually stayed with us and lead us through the process... Perhaps this is an indication of how little most of them have to do!

Anyhoo, I digress...

I venture into a random office and say to the policeman (who is working hard on some word-search quiz book) that I have been sent from the 'other police station' to get this form certified... He reads the form and says, "no, not here, you have to go to the other police station!"

Of course, I think he is sending me back to the first one so I say that they sent me here! But no, he says that there is yet another police station behind the police station -I have to walk down the side of this one and round the back to get to it!  eeek:

Police Station #4
Sure enough, around the back of Police station #3 is another police station that I didn't know existed, complete with car park, razor wire, patrol cars, etc. So I see the guy on the gate (who is also bizarrely working on a word search quiz book) and show him my form...

He says, "follow that guy (points) through the gate and through the front door. Go to the right hand end of the building and in the office there..."

So, through the gate, thought the front door, down to the right hand side but there is nothing obvious apart from lots of offices containing people in police uniforms doing very little (but not obviously word search).

So I picked the office containing the most attractive female policewoman,  eyes: showed her my form and asked where I should go. She says, "you have to go to the other end of the building"....

Then she says, "have you got your passport?". I say, "no, I have my ID card"... she examines the card and says, "oh, it is an 05 (alien) you really need your passport"... facepalm:

So she says, "follow me" and leads me through the building to the far (left hand) end where there is a policeman with sergeant stripes (and obviously very important) sitting at a desk. Waiting patiently at the door is the guy that I followed into the building holding a form (I presume bail). She tells me to wait and snatches the form from the guy at the door and places it in front of the sergeant who signs it and returns it to the guy at the door!  noooo:

She then speaks to him about me and after a while asks if I have my passport. I say, "no" and she asks if I have my 'Yellow Slip' to which I also reply, "no"...  scared2:

Even though we are in the EU I have to have a 'Yellow Slip' to live here... In order to get the aforementioned 'Yellow Slip' you have to prove that you have the funds to live here and also private health insurance that covers in-patient care... Since we have been here we have had to apply for our 'Alien Card' which was replaced by a 'Pink Slip' which was replaced by the ID card (which expires next year) which was replaced by the 'Yellow Slip' which has been in turn replaced by the 'Permanent Yellow Slip' each of which required vast amounts of admin, photocopying and of course cash payment...  noooo:

While theoretically as a European we don't have to have a 'Yellow Slip' to be here they make certain things (like transferring a shotgun or getting a Criminal Record Check) impossible without it...  Banghead

So, we have a bit of a Mexican stand-off and I finally say, "would it be easier if I go home and get my ID card and Passport?". She says, "yes, but we close at 1 (being a Wednesday ::) )". I say, "okay, but it won't be today as I live in Pissouri (about 30 mins away)". ::)

She says, "Pissouri??? Then you have to go to Pissouri police station - this form (which has my address and ID card number on it!) has to be certified in the town you live in!"

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Re: Barman's All New Second-hand Shotgun Saga (by popular request)
« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2016, 06:04:36 PM »
It sounds like some Finance goblins I have worked with here (though not as bad, obviously)  noooo:
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Re: Barman's All New Second-hand Shotgun Saga (by popular request)
« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2016, 06:30:41 PM »
And you are suprised why...... rubschin:

I'm sort of resigned to it now but I've been in four police stations for this and have to visit another this afternoon... Even by Cypriot standards this is a long drawn out thing...  lol:

Try getting permission to sell alcohol.......... noooo:  I even had to go to the church ..... noooo:

How did you not burst into flame the moment you crossed the threshold...  eeek:

I went to the offices ....... redface:

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Re: Barman's All New Second-hand Shotgun Saga (by popular request)
« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2016, 08:19:39 PM »
Amazing stuff BM  :thumbsup:  and worthy: for the patience

I might have said something unfortunate or just shot someone

 lol: lol: lol:

To be fair my expectations were set quite low from the start...  ;)

I might have muttered "When I left the UK, if I'd wanted to be trapped in a Mickey Mouse operation I'd have gone to EuroDisney"   or "I just came in to say we gave up and she gave the gun to a swarthy man that said he was just back from the mosque.   Nah, only joking but you started it first"

But Mr Darwin will know better

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Re: Barman's All New Second-hand Shotgun Saga (by popular request)
« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2016, 09:01:18 PM »
Amazing stuff BM  :thumbsup:  and worthy: for the patience

I might have said something unfortunate or just shot someone

 lol: lol: lol:

To be fair my expectations were set quite low from the start...  ;)

I might have muttered "When I left the UK, if I'd wanted to be trapped in a Mickey Mouse operation I'd have gone to EuroDisney"   or "I just came in to say we gave up and she gave the gun to a swarthy man that said he was just back from the mosque.   Nah, only joking but you started it first"

But Mr Darwin will know better

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Re: Barman's All New Second-hand Shotgun Saga (by popular request)
« Reply #26 on: March 15, 2016, 11:40:38 AM »
Police Station #5

So, loaded up with all the forms, my yellow slip, my ID card, my passport, etc. I head off to the village police station.

It is not always manned so I chose lunchtime and sure enough there were not one but TWO police Panjeros parked outside!  eveilgrin:

Ring the doorbell, get let in and explain my situation - get shown through to the sergeant!  eeek:

I explain the situation to the sergeant and he examines the form... after a while he says (somewhat predictably), "the Muchtar has to sign this"... facepalm:

So I say, "really? the police station in Pafos said that you have to sign it, my local police station...". He says, "yes, I have to sign here (points at page 1) but the village Muchtar (points up the hill towards the village) has to sign here on page 2..."  Banghead

So, I ask if I have to go back up to the village, find the Muchtar, get him to sign it and bring it back here for him to sign...? he says, "No, I can sign this part then you can take it to the Muchtar (points up hill again) and get him to sign the other part"...  Shocked:

So he logs onto his computer and looks stuff up, asks me if I have mental health issues (accepts "no"  eeek:), how long I have lived in the village, blah, blah, blah... Then he asks for my ID and I offer the yellow slip, passport AND ID card but he only wants the ID card....  noooo:

He signs the form with a flourish, adds his name and then calls another policeman in with the official stamp and ink pad! We're getting there! He stamps the form and I make a hasty exit before he asks difficult questions about where the gun is...  redface:

So today I go to the village to see the Muchtar... Not filled with confidence to be honest...  noooo:

I enter his office, say good morning in Greek, ask him how he is in Greek, blah, blah, blah and then say, "can you sign this form for me please?". He says, "if it is legal I will sign it!"  ;D

So I hand him the form and explain about the bastard gun for what feels like the billionth time... ::)

...he reads it (all in Greek remember, nothing too complicated you would have thought) and says, "he died today???  eeek:". I say "no, he died two years ago today and I'm still trying to sort this out ::)".

Starting to feel that this isn't going my way....  noooo:

He says, "I've only been the Muchtar 1½ years so I couldn't have known him"  Banghead

I tried explaining that the old Muchtar didn't know him either, that I had his death certificate, that the police station sent me here for him to sign but to no avail...  noooo:

He then asked where I lived and tried to make pleasant conversation...  cussing:

So, my next step is to wait for Graeme's wife to return from the UK and try the (brand new) local Muchtar where she lives (the one that wouldn't sign the initial forms) and probably go round the whole fucking loop again....  sad24:

Watch this space....
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Re: Barman's All New Second-hand Shotgun Saga (by popular request)
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2016, 12:06:44 PM »
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« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2016, 12:23:30 PM »
Sounds like Italy. I wanted to cut down 2 trees in my garden. They were rotten and my neighbour had complained to the commune (local council)

Go to commune. Polite conversation and coffee. Bring us photos they say,
Take pictures, return to commune- Sorry, we have checked and yours is the first house in the village that is not "urban", so you need to go to the commune di montana (rural council)
Go to commune di montana, given form to fill, told to take it to Corpo Forestale (Forestry Commission). Despite photos, and knowing that they drive past the house every day, they need to inspect.
Two days later, sunbathing bikini clad  Mrs Beerhead looks up to see three men in military uniforms complete with guns standing over her. The Corpo have arrived. It's the beginning of siesta time, so after more coffees and some collapso, they spend 30 seconds looking at the trees, push to see if they move, give me the nod and sign the well thumbed photos.

Back to commune di montana (after siesta time)who attach photos to form. It needs an official seal and signature, which has to over a stamp which proves I have paid for the application.
The commune don't do the stamps, you can get them anywhere that sells bus tickets. So it's down to Bar Boschetto, buy the stamp, more collapso and discussion about silly rules. Back to the commune di montana, but the bloke in charge has already left for the day.
I track him down in a local bar. He has the official seal in his briefcase. So a couple of aperitivos and finally the deed is done. But the document has to be lodged with the Urban commune, now closed. So it's back to them the next morning, more coffee and chat, the document is formally registered and I get the inevitable grainy photocopy.

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Re: Barman's All New Second-hand Shotgun Saga (by popular request)
« Reply #29 on: March 15, 2016, 12:25:40 PM »
I think it may be about time for my tale of the Mexican visa and the Guatamalan gunslinger  noooo:
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