Children in Need day

[apc2010]

I note the UK has donated £50M and a RAF C-130 Hercules to the Philippines...

£50m... about the sum that will be donated to CIN to save those poor children in need.....

It does seem amazing to me that the UK couldn't find that £50M to help the poor UK children in need months ago....

I did see that ......   and here the the government also helped ......1 hours free calls home.... (that's serious)

Miss A's cleaner is Philippine.... Apparently she says any cash sent over there would disappear into the totally corrupt gubberment..... 

So if you want any free calls to a flip=flop, call this month.... ...(top tip)..

[Barman]

Or we could just stop funding the Indian Space Programme 

Stop pissing the money away.... leave the cash in taxpayer's pockets... let them decide what charities they give to (or not)...

Statistics show that populations with gubberements that are less free with their munny are much more likely to give to charity....

[Steve]

Or we could just stop funding the Indian Space Programme 

Stop pissing the money away.... leave the cash in taxpayer's pockets... let them decide what charities they give to (or not)...

Statistics show that populations with gubberements that are less free with their munny are much more likely to give to charity....

Exactly but wasn't it your earlier post that decried encouraging people to give to charity?

We didn't fund India's space programme, what we didn't do was arguably worse.  Instead of us sending money aimed at the poorest, we should tell India that all the time it has so many groosly poor when it has wealth in abundance then we will not freely trade with it. But we don't make that stand because so many party donors want that trade.

But imho freely made individual charity giving is good and if the BBC get massive viewing figures helping that charity giving then why not?

[Barman]

Or we could just stop funding the Indian Space Programme 

Stop pissing the money away.... leave the cash in taxpayer's pockets... let them decide what charities they give to (or not)...

Statistics show that populations with gubberements that are less free with their munny are much more likely to give to charity....

Exactly but wasn't it your earlier post that decried encouraging people to give to charity?

We didn't fund India's space programme, what we didn't do was arguably worse.  Instead of us sending money aimed at the poorest, we should tell India that all the time it has so many groosly poor when it has wealth in abundance then we will not freely trade with it. But we don't make that stand because so many party donors want that trade.

But imho freely made individual charity giving is good and if the BBC get massive viewing figures helping that charity giving then why not?

No, that wasn't my point at all - and I strongly suspect you know it....

My point was *types slowly for the hard of understanding*, there shouldn't be a need for the UK population to give generously to support CIN while the gubberment pisses away billions of Pounds of their taxes.

In exactly the same way that there shouldn't be a space programme India while their poor are starving....

I am totally for giving cash to charity if people choose to do so - what they do with their money after paying tax is of course their right. The gubberment should stop taking so much from them, stop pissing so much of it away and stop giving to 'charities' that they probably don't approve of...

I didn't watch CIN - I'm guessing there were heartbreaking stories of kids that need just a few bob to lead normal lives - It must be sickening if you are in that position to suddenly find that the gubberment had £50M in its back pocket all along which it is now sending off to a foreign land on your behalf.... 

[Steve]

Or we could just stop funding the Indian Space Programme 

Stop pissing the money away.... leave the cash in taxpayer's pockets... let them decide what charities they give to (or not)...

Statistics show that populations with gubberements that are less free with their munny are much more likely to give to charity....

Exactly but wasn't it your earlier post that decried encouraging people to give to charity?

We didn't fund India's space programme, what we didn't do was arguably worse.  Instead of us sending money aimed at the poorest, we should tell India that all the time it has so many groosly poor when it has wealth in abundance then we will not freely trade with it. But we don't make that stand because so many party donors want that trade.

But imho freely made individual charity giving is good and if the BBC get massive viewing figures helping that charity giving then why not?

No, that wasn't my point at all - and I strongly suspect you know it....

My point was *types slowly for the hard of understanding*, there shouldn't be a need for the UK population to give generously to support CIN while the gubberment pisses away billions of Pounds of their taxes.

In exactly the same way that there shouldn't be a space programme India while their poor are starving....

I am totally for giving cash to charity if people choose to do so - what they do with their money after paying tax is of course their right. The gubberment should stop taking so much from them, stop pissing so much of it away and stop giving to 'charities' that they probably don't approve of...

I didn't watch CIN - I'm guessing there were heartbreaking stories of kids that need just a few bob to lead normal lives - It must be sickening if you are in that position to suddenly find that the gubberment had £50M in its back pocket all along which it is now sending off to a foreign land on your behalf.... 

Won't work.

If the government made sure no child was ever in any need then you would just get more children to solve and loads of other peoples in need.

Charity has a place, governments are finite and should be. Everyone has their pet issues of government waste and in £800B of spend a year there will always be a few % misspent.

[apc2010]

Only give child allowance for first kid ..(not china ) have as many chav brain dead morons by your pot smoking thieving scumbag fvck buddy ..but only give them money for 1........

[Barman]

Or we could just stop funding the Indian Space Programme 

Stop pissing the money away.... leave the cash in taxpayer's pockets... let them decide what charities they give to (or not)...

Statistics show that populations with gubberements that are less free with their munny are much more likely to give to charity....

Exactly but wasn't it your earlier post that decried encouraging people to give to charity?

We didn't fund India's space programme, what we didn't do was arguably worse.  Instead of us sending money aimed at the poorest, we should tell India that all the time it has so many groosly poor when it has wealth in abundance then we will not freely trade with it. But we don't make that stand because so many party donors want that trade.

But imho freely made individual charity giving is good and if the BBC get massive viewing figures helping that charity giving then why not?

No, that wasn't my point at all - and I strongly suspect you know it....

My point was *types slowly for the hard of understanding*, there shouldn't be a need for the UK population to give generously to support CIN while the gubberment pisses away billions of Pounds of their taxes.

In exactly the same way that there shouldn't be a space programme India while their poor are starving....

I am totally for giving cash to charity if people choose to do so - what they do with their money after paying tax is of course their right. The gubberment should stop taking so much from them, stop pissing so much of it away and stop giving to 'charities' that they probably don't approve of...

I didn't watch CIN - I'm guessing there were heartbreaking stories of kids that need just a few bob to lead normal lives - It must be sickening if you are in that position to suddenly find that the gubberment had £50M in its back pocket all along which it is now sending off to a foreign land on your behalf.... 

Won't work.

If the government made sure no child was ever in any need then you would just get more children to solve and loads of other peoples in need.

Charity has a place, governments are finite and should be. Everyone has their pet issues of government waste and in £800B of spend a year there will always be a few % misspent.

You are being deliberately obtuse aren't you...?

Please tell me you are....

[Nick]

I sense we are approaching a draw

[Barman]

I sense we are approaching a draw

 

[Baldy]

Only give child allowance for first kid ..(not china ) have as many chav brain dead morons by your pot smoking thieving scumbag fvck buddy ..but only give them money for 1........

    

[Darwins Selection]

http://youtu.be/f8CEBOHmEbk

[Barman]

http://youtu.be/f8CEBOHmEbk

 

[Steve]

I sense we are approaching a draw

Would there then be extra time and the dreaded penalties?   Or do away posts have to count double first?

One of the sad things about the interweb is you do discover you disagree with people in ways you wouldn't do if you were in a real pub.  I'd hate a world where we all agreed all the time or bottled up but if I want to have a big argument I'll go elsewhere for it.

[Uncle Mort]

...if I want to have a big argument I'll go elsewhere for it.

Blood and sands! now there's a place for pointless and neverending arguments. They've even got a religion section 

[Steve]

...if I want to have a big argument I'll go elsewhere for it.

Blood and sands! now there's a place for pointless and neverending arguments. They've even got a religion section 

I avoid the religious section like the plague

But if you have a strong interest in a topic it's a good place to see views tested and discover your going in position is likely too simplistic.  But it does get brutal sometimes, not for those easy to tears.