Children in Need day

[apc2010]

Well I will be at East Midlands airport tonight manning the phones taking donations .....  I have done this for the last four years I love it we have such fun talking lovely people on the phones and partying afterwards lots of booze and food we have visits from people we even had the league cup a couple of years ago bloody heavy it was too...the Man United players were not bad either 

Hope it pays well........

  No pay .... Is a good night ... the people that ring in to donate mostly seem surprised to have a person on the end of the phone ..  You get a lot of lonely people ringing and chat for ages it is lovely .. I had one elderly man a couple of years ago who was sobbing about the children and telling me all about his wife of sixty years that he had lost a few months previously ... we had a good chat and when I left him he was laughing ... It is things like that that makes the night ...

I admire your efforts and those of everybody else that obviously works so hard to raiser money at events like this...

But...

I find the whole thing repulsive.... 

This is an event put on by the BBC - an organisation funded by the taxpayer that pays eye-watering amounts to its 'stars' and senior management...

You live in a country where the government pisses away eye-watering amounts of tax payer's money on foreign interventions, foreign aid, vanity projects like HS2 (£50 billion anybody?) and endless uncountable 'charities' and quangos that serve no purpose but to nanny and control your lives...

Instead of running the country, the 'politicians' *spits* that you have elected to represent you feast at the trough of public money while engaging in a two-year election campaign that will ensure that the same old lot are elected the next time to continue the same old process...

I can't help thinking that if all those hundreds of thousands of people that volunteer their time and give their hard-earned to this event spent a bit more time holding their politicians to account there wouldn't be any children in need...

...It sickens me when I hear all the amazing charity events that the British Forces put on to raise money for their injured comrades and their families - why do people that have fought for their country have to rely on charity for their welfare while the government is so profligate with tax payer's money...?

It has always been like this, one of the charities pleading for money on Forces radio this week was The British Limbless Es-Servicemen's Association (BLESMA) set up after WW1 to help those injured men coming back into some form of 'normal' life...

Yet 100 years later our injured troops coming back from yet another pointless war in Afghanistan will still rely on charity donations by the tax payers that vote in the same politicians that sent them out there in the first place...

...and in 2013 despite Children In Need being on the telly box for over thirty years there are still children in need and the country is little better off in some ways than when it was first broadcast...

That is all....

*steps off soap box *

I have to agree , but well done Boogs for your efforts..... we have the same problem here in Paphos alone there are nearly 700 families in crisis ...yet the MPs are still fucking off alll round the globe to promote Cyprus .....   coz we get a shitload of fucking tourists from Finland or some shit country that doesn't even have direct flights here..it is a joke....

[boogs]

Well I will be at East Midlands airport tonight manning the phones taking donations .....  I have done this for the last four years I love it we have such fun talking lovely people on the phones and partying afterwards lots of booze and food we have visits from people we even had the league cup a couple of years ago bloody heavy it was too...the Man United players were not bad either 

Hope it pays well........

  No pay .... Is a good night ... the people that ring in to donate mostly seem surprised to have a person on the end of the phone ..  You get a lot of lonely people ringing and chat for ages it is lovely .. I had one elderly man a couple of years ago who was sobbing about the children and telling me all about his wife of sixty years that he had lost a few months previously ... we had a good chat and when I left him he was laughing ... It is things like that that makes the night ...

I admire your efforts and those of everybody else that obviously works so hard to raiser money at events like this...

But...

I find the whole thing repulsive.... 

This is an event put on by the BBC - an organisation funded by the taxpayer that pays eye-watering amounts to its 'stars' and senior management...

You live in a country where the government pisses away eye-watering amounts of tax payer's money on foreign interventions, foreign aid, vanity projects like HS2 (£50 billion anybody?) and endless uncountable 'charities' and quangos that serve no purpose but to nanny and control your lives...

Instead of running the country, the 'politicians' *spits* that you have elected to represent you feast at the trough of public money while engaging in a two-year election campaign that will ensure that the same old lot are elected the next time to continue the same old process...

I can't help thinking that if all those hundreds of thousands of people that volunteer their time and give their hard-earned to this event spent a bit more time holding their politicians to account there wouldn't be any children in need...

...It sickens me when I hear all the amazing charity events that the British Forces put on to raise money for their injured comrades and their families - why do people that have fought for their country have to rely on charity for their welfare while the government is so profligate with tax payer's money...?

It has always been like this, one of the charities pleading for money on Forces radio this week was The British Limbless Es-Servicemen's Association (BLESMA) set up after WW1 to help those injured men coming back into some form of 'normal' life...

Yet 100 years later our injured troops coming back from yet another pointless war in Afghanistan will still rely on charity donations by the tax payers that vote in the same politicians that sent them out there in the first place...

...and in 2013 despite Children In Need being on the telly box for over thirty years there are still children in need and the country is little better off in some ways than when it was first broadcast...

That is all....

*steps off soap box *

I hear what you are saying and agree .......  But we are where we are and sadly there is still a need for the likes of CIN.... I do this because it is charities in this country and not elsewhere...

[Steve]

There are bits I find repulsive but it would be wrong to paint it all so.  Unless we tax ourselves to death to ensure no child ever wants for anything we are really left with two alternatives:  Charities or some kds living in sheer and utter misery.

So yes Wogan will apparently be paid a fat fee for tonight, yes children's charities like Demelza may be more direct way of helping,  yes some of it will be mind numblingly banal or plain tedious and yes as I type some rogue politician or two are likely swanning off for a jaunt disguised as serious work for the country. 

But no one promised any of us a perfect world and we still have to do more to get to a good world where yes some things will still not be right.  IMO tonight's efforts by Boogs and lots of others get us all a step nearer to a good position and should be supported. 

[Barman]

There are bits I find repulsive but it would be wrong to paint it all so.  Unless we tax ourselves to death to ensure no child ever wants for anything we are really left with two alternatives:  Charities or some kds living in sheer and utter misery.

So yes Wogan will apparently be paid a fat fee for tonight, yes children's charities like Demelza may be more direct way of helping,  yes some of it will be mind numblingly banal or plain tedious and yes as I type some rogue politician or two are likely swanning off for a jaunt disguised as serious work for the country. 

But no one promised any of us a perfect world and we still have to do more to get to a good world where yes some things will still not be right.  IMO tonight's efforts by Boogs and lots of others get us all a step nearer to a good position and should be supported.

I think you miss the point by a country mile...

It will raise £50M from hard working people that have already paid the gubberment tax on it...

The GDP of the UK is some £2½ Trillion.... The gubberment taxes you to the hilt and then pisses it away so fast that the country still runs a mahoosive deficit...

... it wasted that much alone on that rail tender fiasco recently...

If the people that sat in a bath of baked beans for a week spent that time instead holding the gubberment to account and protesting at the disgusting waste and profligacy of those that are supposed to represent them, there wouldn't be a deficit and there wouldn't be children in need....

You are already taxed to death (and after death) yet the country has a mountain of debt and there are still children in need...

And CIN can run for the next 30 years and guess what - nothing will have changed... Booger will still be manning the phones and there will still be children in need....

Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and over again but expecting a different result each time...?

The gubberment loves this of course - bread and circuses - encourage the proles to give £50M to CIN and that is another £50M that they can piss away instead of doing something useful with it - like changing the system that produces children in need....

Meanwhile India sends a probe to Mars funded by UK taxpayers who can't afford to pay their electricity bills....

[Nick]

Meanwhile India sends a probe to Mars funded by UK taxpayers who can't afford to pay their electricity bills....

Zackly!! I am always being badgered for money to fund cancer care and suchlike. My tax and NI  is being pissed up the wall 

[Barman]

Meanwhile India sends a probe to Mars funded by UK taxpayers who can't afford to pay their electricity bills....

Zackly!! I am always being badgered for money to fund cancer care and suchlike. My tax and NI  is being pissed up the wall 

Zackly³

A quick bit of research on the Intermong reveals....

You can see how the tax receipts projected for 2012-13 are £550.6bn, that is 35.6% of GDP - up since the recession started, but strikingly static for the last few decades.

Clicky...

Yet they can't find £50M that we apparently need for children in need or provide proper care for injured soldiers and their families...?

Yet we can fund enldess fake charities and lobby groups...?

They can funnel millions to their own parties through the re-renting scandal....?

It is disgusting and the population need to wake up to it....

[Nick]

I am not decrying boogs' efforts, but this has to be stopped. When The Boy was about 7 or so I was constantly being asked to support fundraising efforts at his skool. For what? BOOKS and stuff. Heavens, this was a posh bit of Cheshire and we had to sell each other fvcking fairy cakes to buy skoolbooks in a huge economy and this during BLIAR'S "Education, education, education" phase.

It is absurd

[Barman]

I am not decrying boogs' efforts, but this has to be stopped. When The Boy was about 7 or so I was constantly being asked to support fundraising efforts at his skool. For what? BOOKS and stuff. Heavens, this was a posh bit of Cheshire and we had to sell each other fvcking fairy cakes to buy skoolbooks in a huge economy and this during BLIAR'S "Education, education, education" phase.

It is absurd

Quite so...

The 'charity' meme has been completely abused... 

Look at ASH the anti-smoking 'charity'.... charity my arse 

[Steve]

You are of course both right^*.  No one should publicly lift a finger to help a kid or extoll others to so help until we have righted all the world's wrongs first.








^* actually no I'm taking the piss,  it's bollocks

[apc2010]

You are of course both right^*.  No one should publicly lift a finger to help a kid or extoll others to so help until we have righted all the world's wrongs first.








^* actually no I'm taking the piss,  it's bollocks

Yeah but why give money to the jiggaboos ..when people in the UK have problems......

[Barman]

You are of course both right^*.  No one should publicly lift a finger to help a kid or extoll others to so help until we have righted all the world's wrongs first.

^* actually no I'm taking the piss,  it's bollocks

Once again you spectacularly miss the point I was making....

That point being that the gubberment wastes more cash every single year than CIN has made in thirty years... and continues to do it year, after year after year with no accountability...

So while I admire people that sit in a bath of baked beans for a week to raise money for charity it is ultimately pointless.... I just hope they have been reusing the beans for the past thirty years - or perhaps they donate them to Red Nose Day for the brown kids...?

[Darwins Selection]

You are of course both right^*.  No one should publicly lift a finger to help a kid or extoll others to so help until we have righted all the world's wrongs first.

^* actually no I'm taking the piss,  it's bollocks

Once again you spectacularly miss the point I was making....

That point being that the gubberment wastes more cash every single year than CIN has made in thirty years... and continues to do it year, after year after year with no accountability...

So while I admire people that sit in a bath of baked beans for a week to raise money for charity it is ultimately pointless.... I just hope they have been reusing the beans for the past thirty years - or perhaps they donate them to Red Nose Day for the brown kids...?

You could feed an entire village in Ethiopia for a week on a bath of baked beans. 

[boogs]

You are of course both right^*.  No one should publicly lift a finger to help a kid or extoll others to so help until we have righted all the world's wrongs first.

^* actually no I'm taking the piss,  it's bollocks

Once again you spectacularly miss the point I was making....

That point being that the gubberment wastes more cash every single year than CIN has made in thirty years... and continues to do it year, after year after year with no accountability...

So while I admire people that sit in a bath of baked beans for a week to raise money for charity it is ultimately pointless.... I just hope they have been reusing the beans for the past thirty years - or perhaps they donate them to Red Nose Day for the brown kids...?

You could feed an entire village in Ethiopia for a week on a bath of baked beans. 

 

[Landlady]

Hope the evening went well for you Boogs - I am sure you were superb 

If we are ever (not often) in London together BM huffs each time I place a few bob in the beggar bowl...........generally muttering that they have their 4x4 parked just around the corner...............could be true but maybe one of them does need it so 


Out with my real big sis once and approached by a beggar and his dog (how come they all have dogs nowadays) and after I'd given a few pounds she began muttering but then walked back to give the dog her fish..................the beggar was most indignant and asked for it himself and she told him  **Best laugh of the night that was 

[apc2010]

I know it's from the daily wail but........

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508063/UK-pay-4m-fund-Ethiopian-Spice-Girls-New-aid-project-Yegna-ridiculed.html