This can't be right surely

[Baldy]

They typically interview ~ 1,000 people so with say 40 polls a year the average person will get polled (painful?) about once every 12 lifetimes

So don't hold your breath

I fill in loads of polls where you get a few shillings per survey (in many different names ) and I fill in each one with a different point of view...just for the laugh and to prove they are shite. 

[boogs]

They typically interview ~ 1,000 people so with say 40 polls a year the average person will get polled (painful?) about once every 12 lifetimes

So don't hold your breath

I fill in loads of polls where you get a few shillings per survey (in many different names ) and I fill in each one with a different point of view...just for the laugh and to prove they are shite. 

Zackly they are all bollox ... It would be interesting if they did a proper realistic survey ..   

[Baldy]

They typically interview ~ 1,000 people so with say 40 polls a year the average person will get polled (painful?) about once every 12 lifetimes

So don't hold your breath

I fill in loads of polls where you get a few shillings per survey (in many different names ) and I fill in each one with a different point of view...just for the laugh and to prove they are shite. 

Zackly they are all bollox ... It would be interesting if they did a proper realistic survey ..   

Like, ask the bloke down the pub like. 

[boogs]

They typically interview ~ 1,000 people so with say 40 polls a year the average person will get polled (painful?) about once every 12 lifetimes

So don't hold your breath

I fill in loads of polls where you get a few shillings per survey (in many different names ) and I fill in each one with a different point of view...just for the laugh and to prove they are shite. 

Zackly they are all bollox ... It would be interesting if they did a proper realistic survey ..   

Like, ask the bloke down the pub like. 

Could do werse we have a variety of views in here ..... then again maybe not 

[Baldy]

They typically interview ~ 1,000 people so with say 40 polls a year the average person will get polled (painful?) about once every 12 lifetimes

So don't hold your breath

I fill in loads of polls where you get a few shillings per survey (in many different names ) and I fill in each one with a different point of view...just for the laugh and to prove they are shite. 

Zackly they are all bollox ... It would be interesting if they did a proper realistic survey ..   

Like, ask the bloke down the pub like. 

Could do werse we have a variety of views in here ..... then again maybe not 

Our version is prolly much nearer to the way the public sees things, rather than the random shite I fill in "just for a laugh"....and get paid for it. 

[Barman]

The parties respond to focus groups and seems what wins elections is Health Service, Pensions, General Economy, National Security and Ejucation

We have fallen way down the curve on defence research and advanced development and with the cold war over the public no longer sees that as a threat to national security.

Except we all know how focus groups work - they choose the group and the question in order to achieve the desired outcome....

If they actually listened to the voters we'd bring back hanging, repeal the smoking ban and not spend £42B on HS2 or £10B on foreign aid....

What despite that when they ask the question properly only 33% are in favour of hanging? 
But asking questions properly doesn't sell tabloids does it so no tabloid has paid for them to ask it properly since.

When British respondents were asked to choose between the death penalty, life imprisonment without the chance of parole and life imprisonment with the chance of parole as the possible sentences for murder, those who said they would prefer the death penalty fell to 33%; but only 19% said they preferred life with the possibility of parole, the mandatory sentence for murder in Britain since 1965. Almost half, 44%, would prefer the sentence to be life without parole

You could be a politician with selective quoting like that! 

The second paragraph reads: -

The poll, conducted in the UK in February 2007, finds that half the British public (50%) say they favour the death penalty for people convicted of murder, while 45% are opposed.

[Steve]

Not at all. Fact is when given a real alternative people do not want the death penalty.   Yes I could quote the entire poll result but it's several pages so just kept to the point.

[Landlady]

Not at all. Fact is when given a real alternative people do not want the death penalty.   Yes I could quote the entire poll result but it's several pages so just kept to the point.

My  worth

No reasonable human being, I believe, wants to have the ability to condemn another human being, regardless.

However after so many years of seeing the JUSTICE and more importantly the SENTENCING system in the UK fall to pieces no one can believe that proven hardened criminals get the punishment they deserve - I certainly don't.

If it was an iron clad guarantee that the judicial system would impose true life sentences then I would, if given a chance, perhaps vote against the death penalty - however as it stands if asked I would personally place my vote to brig it back



 

[Barman]

Not at all. Fact is when given a real alternative people do not want the death penalty.   Yes I could quote the entire poll result but it's several pages so just kept to the point.

The poll surely confirms the paragraph I quoted...

The Death Penalty
Strongly Favour 29%
Somewhat Favour 21%
Somewhat Oppose 16%
Strongly Oppose 29%

=50% in favour while 45% oppose...

However, arguing about the minute of one part of my post...

If they actually listened to the voters we'd bring back hanging, repeal the smoking ban and not spend £42B on HS2 or £10B on foreign aid....

...doesn't detract from the point I was making about politicians and focus groups....

[apc2010]

Not at all. Fact is when given a real alternative people do not want the death penalty.   Yes I could quote the entire poll result but it's several pages so just kept to the point.

My  worth

No reasonable human being, I believe, wants to have the ability to condemn another human being, regardless.

However after so many years of seeing the JUSTICE and more importantly the SENTENCING system in the UK fall to pieces no one can believe that proven hardened criminals get the punishment they deserve - I certainly don't.

If it was an iron clad guarantee that the judicial system would impose true life sentences then I would, if given a chance, perhaps vote against the death penalty - however as it stands if asked I would personally place my vote to brig it back

Wot she said....^^^

[Barman]

Not at all. Fact is when given a real alternative people do not want the death penalty.   Yes I could quote the entire poll result but it's several pages so just kept to the point.

My  worth

No reasonable human being, I believe, wants to have the ability to condemn another human being, regardless.

However after so many years of seeing the JUSTICE and more importantly the SENTENCING system in the UK fall to pieces no one can believe that proven hardened criminals get the punishment they deserve - I certainly don't.

If it was an iron clad guarantee that the judicial system would impose true life sentences then I would, if given a chance, perhaps vote against the death penalty - however as it stands if asked I would personally place my vote to brig it back

The completely fucked-up state of the justice system in the UK at the moment is in my opinion one reason for NOT wishing the death penalty to be brought back...

The powers that be seem to want to vote more and more power to themselves including secret trials without representation or jury... they could whip you off the streets and have you strung up - quite legally - far too easily in my opinion....

[Darwins Selection]

The Yanks' non-capital sentencing system would seem more acceptable.

999 years for murder with 500 years off for good behavior. 

[Barman]

The Yanks' non-capital sentencing system would seem more acceptable.

999 years for murder with 500 years off for good behavior. 

 

[boogs]

The Yanks' non-capital sentencing system would seem more acceptable.

999 years for murder with 500 years off for good behavior. 

100% agree DS 

[Steve]

The Yanks' non-capital sentencing system would seem more acceptable.

999 years for murder with 500 years off for good behavior. 

100% agree DS 

Exactly ^

And politicians of the major parties know this and they know it would be hard to get such through the legislative system.  But, as is the relevant point BM, they do know what their focus groups tell them and one of those insights is not to put hanging in their manifestos. Or indeed to put increases in defence spending at the expense of education pensions, NHS  or financial credibility.

The farce is the UK has a formal role as one of the worlds Security Council policemen and a public with no real wish to back that.   It's an arse position - just like what I said.

And just to emphasize that:  In the run in to the last General Election a sample set of voters were asked

"Q. Looking ahead to the General Election, which, if any, issues do you think will be very important to helping you decide which party to vote for?"

In descending order the answers were

32:  Managing the economy
26:  Healthcare
23:  Education
14:  Asylum/Immigration
12:  Taxation
11:  Unemployment
  8:  Crime/Anti Social Behaviour
  7:  Benefits
  7:  Care for older and disable people
  6:  Pensions
  5:  Afghanistan
  5:  Protecting the environment
  4:  Other
  3:  Defence
  3:  Housing
  3:  Public Transport
  3:  Iraq

Yep Defence came equal last yet if anyone makes a mistake on a defence project there is all hell to pay.  So what they do now is build in multiple "Assessment phases" to reduce the risk but they cost money and rather than take it from front line troops they delay funding the assessment phases.  Result by the time a project fully starts the threat it was designed to address has already changed to make the project in need of serious change = delay and more money.

And that's what happened with the carriers, the aircraft they are intended to support and that new AEW solution of the OP