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Mind you ~ he does talk sense as well.
« on: August 07, 2007, 07:02:09 AM »
Benn Senior that is. As I have said elsewhere he is as mad as a fish but he does talk sense (more now he is out of Parliament than when he was in it) as this demonstrates.

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Tony Benn appears in Michael Moore's new film 'Sicko' covering the state of the health system in the U.S.  Michael Moore says he first spotted Mr Benn on an edition of Question Time on the BBC seven years ago. 'I didn't know who he was, but he spoke about student loans and said it would create a generation of wage slaves with debts. He asked: "Why wouldn't employers want that?".  Benn argues that for-profit healthcare and the other instruments of the corporate state, like student loans and bottomless credit-card debt, perform a crucial function for that state. They undermine democracy by creating a docile and hardworking population that is addicted to constant debt and an essentially unsustainable lifestyle, that literally cannot afford to quit jobs or take time off, that is more interested in maintaining high incomes than in social or political change.
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Re: Mind you ~ he does talk sense as well.
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2007, 07:12:57 AM »

Ahh the delightful Mr Benn.

I went to a function last year where he was giving a talk. He was charm, wit and humour personified with an alarming dash of honesty.

He came across as a genuinely principled man (whether or not you agree with his principles is another matter).

I still have his autobiography in my desk draw to read (once I have finished Harry Potter - I know I am shallow).
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Re: Mind you ~ he does talk sense as well.
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2007, 07:18:37 AM »

Ahh the delightful Mr Benn.

I went to a function last year where he was giving a talk. He was charm, wit and humour personified with an alarming dash of honesty.

He came across as a genuinely principled man (whether or not you agree with his principles is another matter).

I still have his autobiography in my desk draw to read (once I have finished Harry Potter - I know I am shallow).

Agreed (Not about you being shallow ~ I'd read it within 24 hours of release) but about Anthony Wedgewood Benn AKA Lord Stansgate.
Some years ago, when he was still the Hon Member for Bristol (West I think) I met, at a conference, and had a couple of pints with his agent of many years. The agent assured me that (i) Tony Benn is a brilliant orator (ii) Tony Benn is extremely bright (iii) Tony Benn is highly principled (iv) Tony Benn is as mad as a hatter.
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Re: Mind you ~ he does talk sense as well.
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2007, 08:43:48 AM »
I?ve always thought he talked sense but he appeared to have lost the plot on his last appearance on QT IMHO?  noooo:
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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2007, 09:46:53 AM »
I always had a lot of time for AWB whilst actively disagreeing with most of what he said.

I will remember him for pointing out the most potent threat of all from government - "We know where you live." closely followed by "It will always be somewhat too expensive for you to live there."

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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2007, 10:35:02 AM »
Benn Senior that is. As I have said elsewhere he is as mad as a fish but he does talk sense (more now he is out of Parliament than when he was in it) as this demonstrates.

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Tony Benn appears in Michael Moore's new film 'Sicko' covering the state of the health system in the U.S.  Michael Moore says he first spotted Mr Benn on an edition of Question Time on the BBC seven years ago. 'I didn't know who he was, but he spoke about student loans and said it would create a generation of wage slaves with debts. He asked: "Why wouldn't employers want that?".  Benn argues that for-profit healthcare and the other instruments of the corporate state, like student loans and bottomless credit-card debt, perform a crucial function for that state. They undermine democracy by creating a docile and hardworking population that is addicted to constant debt and an essentially unsustainable lifestyle, that literally cannot afford to quit jobs or take time off, that is more interested in maintaining high incomes than in social or political change.

Bloody hell that is scary, is this the New World Order?

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Re: Mind you ~ he does talk sense as well.
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2007, 10:38:24 AM »
Benn Senior that is. As I have said elsewhere he is as mad as a fish but he does talk sense (more now he is out of Parliament than when he was in it) as this demonstrates.

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Tony Benn appears in Michael Moore's new film 'Sicko' covering the state of the health system in the U.S.  Michael Moore says he first spotted Mr Benn on an edition of Question Time on the BBC seven years ago. 'I didn't know who he was, but he spoke about student loans and said it would create a generation of wage slaves with debts. He asked: "Why wouldn't employers want that?".  Benn argues that for-profit healthcare and the other instruments of the corporate state, like student loans and bottomless credit-card debt, perform a crucial function for that state. They undermine democracy by creating a docile and hardworking population that is addicted to constant debt and an essentially unsustainable lifestyle, that literally cannot afford to quit jobs or take time off, that is more interested in maintaining high incomes than in social or political change.

Bloody hell that is scary, is this the New World Order?

No but it is the logical extension of New Labour policies as explained by someone who knows.
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Re: Mind you ~ he does talk sense as well.
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2007, 10:49:04 AM »
Sh't even scarier!

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Re: Mind you ~ he does talk sense as well.
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2007, 11:03:48 AM »

Ahh the delightful Mr Benn.

I went to a function last year where he was giving a talk. He was charm, wit and humour personified with an alarming dash of honesty.

He came across as a genuinely principled man (whether or not you agree with his principles is another matter).

I agree, he is a great speaker and a very clever man.

Sadly, I would have been one of the first against the wall had he come to power in the 60's. cry:
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Re: Mind you ~ he does talk sense as well.
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2007, 11:08:17 AM »

Ahh the delightful Mr Benn.

I went to a function last year where he was giving a talk. He was charm, wit and humour personified with an alarming dash of honesty.

He came across as a genuinely principled man (whether or not you agree with his principles is another matter).

I agree, he is a great speaker and a very clever man.

Sadly, I would have been one of the first against the wall had he come to power in the 60's. cry:
Is he gay then?  noooo:
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2007, 11:11:07 AM »

Ahh the delightful Mr Benn.

I went to a function last year where he was giving a talk. He was charm, wit and humour personified with an alarming dash of honesty.

He came across as a genuinely principled man (whether or not you agree with his principles is another matter).

I agree, he is a great speaker and a very clever man.

Sadly, I would have been one of the first against the wall had he come to power in the 60's. cry:
Is he gay then?  noooo:


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