Post by: Barman on June 25, 2011, 01:02:09 PM
happy088
Post by: Nick on June 25, 2011, 01:14:47 PM
Post by: beerhead on June 25, 2011, 03:31:12 PM
I assume that is the entire membership. Silly little man.
Post by: Barman on November 17, 2011, 11:52:24 AM
:thumbsup:
Post by: Grumpmeister on November 18, 2011, 01:39:46 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063103/Wolfgang-Sch-uble-says-UK-join-euro-Germany-plans-block-EU-referendum.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2063103/Wolfgang-Sch-uble-says-UK-join-euro-Germany-plans-block-EU-referendum.html)
Post by: Barman on November 19, 2011, 06:03:47 PM
worthy:
Post by: GROWLER on November 19, 2011, 06:17:35 PM
Post by: Barman on November 19, 2011, 06:30:55 PM
Bloody fantastic. :thumbsup:
TMR and I enjoyed a pint with him! cloud9:
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs10.postimage.org%2Ftgceavgh1%2FSDC10583.jpg&hash=169acbccf6ba1c1ba6835c5efe7be0fdd646e5a8) (http://postimage.org/image/tgceavgh1/)
Mind you, TMR was pissed... he prolly doesn't remember it like.... noooo:
Post by: Barman on December 13, 2011, 12:55:37 PM
happ096
Post by: Snoopy on December 13, 2011, 01:08:34 PM
Post by: Barman on December 13, 2011, 01:19:45 PM
Oh he is good ~ deluded if he really thinks we'll get out of Europe any time soon ~ but good.
I'm sure he works on the principle that the more he says it... the more people believe it....
And I don't think he is entirely wrong on that... especially with the backdrop of EU meltdown....
Post by: Snoopy on December 13, 2011, 01:36:21 PM
It is unfortunate that Ted Heath pissed the Commonwealth off so much when he took us into the EEC or whatever name it went by back then but I am sure that blood being thicker than water some of them will welcome us back.
But I am all for full border controls, block up the channel tunnel if necessary, our own money and our own rules. The money flocks to Switzerland, Lichtenstein et al. Why not to a fully independent UK? Bring it on says I
Think of the savings we would have if we weren't paying to belong to the EU, think of the fish we could sell to them instead of giving them, think of what our farmers could do by actually growing our own food instead of buggering about claiming subsidies which allow French farmers to sell us milk cheaper than we (or they) can produce it for.
All I am saying is that there are too many vested interests to allow it to happen any time soon. As for the EU going fully tits up ~ I can't see the Germans allowing that to happen.
Post by: Nick on December 14, 2011, 10:11:39 AM
Post by: Barman on January 17, 2012, 04:01:07 PM
Post by: Barman on February 02, 2012, 07:32:10 AM
Post by: The Moan Ranger on February 02, 2012, 07:50:30 AM
Post by: Barman on February 02, 2012, 07:51:31 AM
Post by: Barman on February 23, 2012, 02:42:46 PM
happ096
Post by: Barman on April 18, 2012, 06:22:10 PM
Thumbs:
Post by: Barman on April 19, 2012, 06:45:07 AM
Post by: Barman on April 23, 2012, 06:06:55 AM
Post by: Barman on May 01, 2012, 12:44:29 PM
A Nigelfest.... cloud9:
Post by: Snoopy on May 01, 2012, 01:01:50 PM
Post by: Barman on May 01, 2012, 01:51:45 PM
Gets my vote every time :thumbsup:
Given the chance eh? Thumbs:
Post by: Barman on May 30, 2012, 06:59:34 AM
Post by: Grumpmeister on June 13, 2012, 10:40:41 AM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/9327984/The-people-dont-want-a-referendum-on-Europe-insists-No-10.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/9327984/The-people-dont-want-a-referendum-on-Europe-insists-No-10.html)
I wonder which people they are on about, the other patrons in the pub Dave accidentally left his daughter in perchance? rubschin:
Post by: Snoopy on June 13, 2012, 11:10:01 AM
Apparently the people don't want a referendum on the EU.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/9327984/The-people-dont-want-a-referendum-on-Europe-insists-No-10.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/eureferendum/9327984/The-people-dont-want-a-referendum-on-Europe-insists-No-10.html)
I wonder which people they are on about, the other patrons in the pub Dave accidentally left his daughter in perchance? rubschin:
P'raps we should ask for a referendum on whether or not we should have a referendum.
Post by: Barman on June 13, 2012, 11:23:37 AM
Post by: Barman on July 03, 2012, 02:29:56 PM
Post by: Snoopy on July 03, 2012, 03:01:39 PM
Post by: Barman on July 03, 2012, 04:32:57 PM
Every time he gets it right ...... But is anyone listening?
Sadly not.... noooo:
But saying 'I told you so' after the event will be priceless! Thumbs:
Post by: Barman on July 30, 2012, 01:45:40 PM
Long but worth watching! Thumbs:
Post by: The Moan Ranger on July 31, 2012, 02:38:47 AM
http://youtu.be/M4CiAPs0Ul4 (http://youtu.be/M4CiAPs0Ul4)
Long but worth watching! Thumbs:
:thumbsup:
Shame he was being interviewed by Ali G though...
Post by: Barman on July 31, 2012, 05:09:08 AM
http://youtu.be/M4CiAPs0Ul4 (http://youtu.be/M4CiAPs0Ul4)
Long but worth watching! Thumbs:
:thumbsup:
Shame he was being interviewed by Ali G though...
happy001
Post by: Barman on August 14, 2012, 02:48:25 PM
Post by: Just One More on August 14, 2012, 03:43:01 PM
(And I know it's the Commons, but nice redhead at the very start) redface:
Post by: The Moan Ranger on August 14, 2012, 05:03:34 PM
Post by: The Moan Ranger on August 15, 2012, 04:20:42 PM
Post by: Nick on August 15, 2012, 04:29:54 PM
Post by: Barman on September 12, 2012, 11:57:40 AM
he gets betterer and betterer! cloud9:
Post by: Uncle Mort on September 13, 2012, 09:53:07 PM
He's never going to run out of nails.
Post by: The Moan Ranger on September 19, 2012, 04:40:16 AM
Post by: Nick on September 19, 2012, 08:21:20 AM
cussing: cussing:
Post by: Barman on September 19, 2012, 08:29:45 AM
http://www.thecommentator.com/article/1666/killing_dissent_in_europe_mr_nigel_farage_won_t_be_the_last_victim (http://www.thecommentator.com/article/1666/killing_dissent_in_europe_mr_nigel_farage_won_t_be_the_last_victim)
cussing: cussing:
I think it's good - the wheels are coming off and Nigel will make great use of this....
Post by: Barman on October 11, 2012, 10:45:55 AM
Long but worth watching.... Thumbs:
Post by: Snoopy on October 11, 2012, 11:19:14 AM
As for Nigel ~ he does indeed nail it again but how many are listening?
UKIP may be growing but most people I ask say "Yes they agree with much of what Nigel says BUT they are not prepared to waste a vote as it will only let Tories, Labour and Libdems divi the government up between them" People blame UKIP more than anyone else for the Coalition we currently have "If only the UKIP votes had stayed with the Tories" I hear time and again. Banghead
Post by: Barman on October 11, 2012, 11:21:25 AM
Nice touch ~ The glass table and frequent camera shots through it of her legs.
As for Nigel ~ he does indeed nail it again but how many are listening?
UKIP may be growing but most people I ask say "Yes they agree with much of what Nigel says BUT they are not prepared to waste a vote as it will only let Tories, Labour and Libdems divi the government up between them" People blame UKIP more than anyone else for the Coalition we currently have "If only the UKIP votes had stayed with the Tories" I hear time and again. Banghead
I think more and more are listening... It is slow tho... noooo:
Post by: Snoopy on October 11, 2012, 11:38:48 AM
Prolly BM has not had the almost non-stop barrage from the "Big Three" conferences that those in the UK have been subjected to but if Nick Robinson pops up on my screen again I shall do a Growler on it!
Post by: Barman on October 11, 2012, 11:49:28 AM
Until mainstream media (as opposed to www media) and the national papers in the UK pick up on all he is saying instead of having a wankfest over Cameron, Clegg and Milliband making pathetic and meaningless speeches to their own band of converts UKIP are not going to get there. Look at the TV coverage of the past three weeks + in Wales only we have of course had some programmes from the Plaid's conference. UKIP conference got so little cover it was untrue.
Prolly BM has not had the almost non-stop barrage from the "Big Three" conferences that those in the UK have been subjected to but if Nick Robinson pops up on my screen again I shall do a Growler on it!
Consistently ahead of the Limp Dumbs now.... (http://cdn.yougov.com/cumulus_uploads/document/lr3kqw8d1n/YG-Archives-Pol-Sun-results-101012.pdf)
Although the fact that 41% would still vote Labour is enough to make you Banghead until your head splits asunder... noooo:
Post by: Paphitis on October 11, 2012, 12:03:52 PM
The Eurozone has been a complete failure. The single currency has devastated Greece, Spain and Portugal. Italy, Ireland and Cyprus are also on their way to economic oblivion. I take my hat off to the UK. I use to think the UK was just anti EU to begin with years ago but now I realize that the euro skepticism has proven to be justified. The UK was smart to opt out.
I actually hope that Greece can free itself from the EU and the Eurozone. I also hope that my beloved Cyprus opts out as well before it is too late. However, there is a political advantage in Cyprus staying in given the current status quo and occupation.
From the outside looking in, the Eurozone has been a disastrous failed experiment that has no hope of resurrecting itself. Banghead
Post by: Uncle Mort on November 09, 2012, 05:55:42 PM
Post by: Barman on November 22, 2012, 05:23:22 AM
happy001
Post by: Baldy on November 22, 2012, 06:55:44 AM
Post by: Uncle Mort on November 22, 2012, 07:04:16 AM
Has the EU Budget been rejected by auditors for the past 18 years? (http://fullfact.org/factchecks/has_eu_budget_rejected_auditors_18_years-28593)
rubschin:
Post by: Barman on November 22, 2012, 07:45:37 AM
It's never quite as black and white as it's made out:
Has the EU Budget been rejected by auditors for the past 18 years? (http://fullfact.org/factchecks/has_eu_budget_rejected_auditors_18_years-28593)
rubschin:
I stopped reading when I got to this bit: -
Quote
Error - especially in budgets the size of €130 billion - happens.
Having run a tiny business by comparison (turnover £5½M) I know that errors don't 'just happen' - it is your job to make sure they don't. You can't afford for errors to happen... Not only do you risk going broke if errors happen, the tax man is all over you at the merest whiff of misappropriation of funds...
The problem with the EU (like the UK gubberment) is that it is funded from the magic money tree - there is no risk of going broke or being punished if you piss-away a few millions of €uros...
Post by: Uncle Mort on November 22, 2012, 08:00:35 AM
I stopped reading
Good move ~ you wouldn't want to have to question your prejudices.
Post by: Barman on November 22, 2012, 08:12:44 AM
I stopped reading
Good move ~ you wouldn't want to have to question your prejudices.
No, I have a fundamental issue with an article which starts off by accepting that errors 'happen' and that they are therefore acceptable. That tells me all I need to know about the content and conclusions of the article.
Try telling the Inland revenue, your accountant or the VAT inspector that 'errors happen' and see where that gets you...
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on November 22, 2012, 09:21:04 AM
I stopped reading
Good move ~ you wouldn't want to have to question your prejudices.
No, I have a fundamental issue with an article which starts off by accepting that errors 'happen' and that they are therefore acceptable. That tells me all I need to know about the content and conclusions of the article.
Try telling the Inland revenue, your accountant or the VAT inspector that 'errors happen' and see where that gets you...
+1 :thumbsup:
Post by: Uncle Mort on November 22, 2012, 11:22:41 AM
No, I have a fundamental issue with an article which starts off by accepting that errors 'happen' and that they are therefore acceptable. That tells me all I need to know about the content and conclusions of the article.
The article doesn't state that the errors are 'acceptable' It points out the failings of the EU budget but also crucially points out that 80% of the money is administered by the member states rather than directly from the centre. So who's actually making the errors?
Anyway it concludes with "...the EU Budget has not been "rejected" or "refused" by the auditors" (admittedly with caveats) ~ not quite what Nigel and the headlines would have us believe. And why I pointed out that things aren't as black and white as stated.
Post by: Pastis on November 24, 2012, 04:50:59 PM
Post by: Barman on November 25, 2012, 05:53:48 AM
Good to hear Nigel giving Evan Davies a verbal thumping on Today this a.m. over the Rotherham Council business :thumbsup:
I'd like to give him a thumping.... redface:
Post by: apc2010 on November 25, 2012, 11:43:15 AM
More........
Post by: Barman on December 12, 2012, 10:59:36 AM
Post by: Barman on March 24, 2013, 09:22:28 AM
Part 1:
Nigel Farage at UKIP Spring Conference Exeter Pt 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mU2VX2qoZg#ws)
Part 2:
Nigel Farage at UKIP Spring Conference Exeter Pt 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKIlq1-95ks#ws)
worthy:
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on March 29, 2013, 12:05:32 PM
UKIP’s electoral appeal has grown to such an extent that nearly four in 10 Brits would consider supporting the party, a new poll suggests.
In a YouGov survey for the Sun, 38% of Brits said they would “consider” voting for UKIP, with Farage’s party on a record 12% poll rating, equal with the LibDems.
This comes after UKIP dramatically came in second in the Eastleigh by election.
Post by: Snoopy on March 29, 2013, 12:06:27 PM
Post by: Steve on March 29, 2013, 12:39:24 PM
Post by: Barman on March 29, 2013, 12:41:23 PM
Never mine. A Trojan horse party
Booooo Hissss! evil:
Post by: Steve on March 29, 2013, 12:54:11 PM
Post by: Barman on March 29, 2013, 12:58:32 PM
Read their manifesto (http://www.ukip.org/media/pdf/UKIPmanifesto1304a.pdf).
I've read it... which bit don't you like...?
Post by: Steve on March 29, 2013, 01:16:16 PM
But if you read their manifesto, Europe is the populist policy (Trojan Horse) and views will vary on that (I'm off the plan A = fix it persuasion) but the interesting thing about UKIP is their other policies. They are the only significant party to have campaigned to take individual rights back to the 1930s or even earlier. In effect their manifesto was the most repressive making BNPs look almost liberal by comparison.
And I'm suspicious that's been their agenda all along.
Post by: Barman on March 29, 2013, 02:33:10 PM
hmm don't really do politics here, more for the somewhere else I frequent
But if you read their manifesto, Europe is the populist policy (Trojan Horse) and views will vary on that (I'm off the plan A = fix it persuasion) but the interesting thing about UKIP is their other policies. They are the only significant party to have campaigned to take individual rights back to the 1930s or even earlier. In effect their manifesto was the most repressive making BNPs look almost liberal by comparison.
And I'm suspicious that's been their agenda all along.
Who gets the Quorn family vote then...? rubschin:
Post by: Steve on March 29, 2013, 03:21:46 PM
I really want to have the nerve to stand as a Raving Monster Loony (well qualified) and if one does here they'll likely get my vote
Post by: apc2010 on March 29, 2013, 03:36:11 PM
Post by: Steve on March 29, 2013, 03:37:46 PM
I used to drink in a pub that was the unofficial BNP head quarters ......... scared2:
Is the "Unofficial BNP" a bit like the "Provisional BNP" ;)
Post by: Snoopy on March 29, 2013, 04:36:12 PM
hmm don't really do politics here, more for the somewhere else I frequent
But if you read their manifesto, Europe is the populist policy (Trojan Horse) and views will vary on that (I'm off the plan A = fix it persuasion) but the interesting thing about UKIP is their other policies. They are the only significant party to have campaigned to take individual rights back to the 1930s or even earlier. In effect their manifesto was the most repressive making BNPs look almost liberal by comparison.
And I'm suspicious that's been their agenda all along.
Who gets the Quorn family vote then...? rubschin:
Whoever promises to bring back fox hunting I should think.
OK Think about it ~ you'll get the joke in the end.
Post by: Just One More on March 29, 2013, 05:08:01 PM
Post by: Snoopy on March 29, 2013, 07:23:31 PM
Post by: apc2010 on March 29, 2013, 07:24:30 PM
Sorry JOM redface:
noooo:
Post by: Steve on March 29, 2013, 08:28:37 PM
. . .
Who gets the Quorn family vote then...? rubschin:
Whoever promises to bring back fox hunting I should think.
. .
OK Think about it ~ you'll get the joke in the end.
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lol: lol: lol: Straight away. Always a bit weird that naming it after a famous hunt. Still at least they didn't go for the infamous named Berkshire Hunt ;)
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on March 31, 2013, 12:27:31 PM
lol: lol: lol: Straight away. Always a bit weird that naming it after a famous hunt. Still at least they didn't go for the infamous named Berkshire Hunt ;). . .
Who gets the Quorn family vote then...? rubschin:
Whoever promises to bring back fox hunting I should think.
. .
OK Think about it ~ you'll get the joke in the end.
[/quote]
Now that would be plain "Dippy" . . . . .
Post by: Barman on April 17, 2013, 03:08:44 PM
Post by: Grumpmeister on September 11, 2013, 03:15:05 PM
Post by: Barman on September 11, 2013, 03:30:28 PM
Nigel Farage offers Barroso some cooling news (State of the Union 2013) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFpzaQPKC54#ws)
Excellent! Thumbs:
Post by: Grumpmeister on September 11, 2013, 03:34:37 PM
Post by: Baldy on September 11, 2013, 06:14:43 PM
Nigel Farage offers Barroso some cooling news (State of the Union 2013) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFpzaQPKC54#ws)
Thumbs: Thumbs:
Post by: boogs on September 11, 2013, 11:24:55 PM
Nigel Farage offers Barroso some cooling news (State of the Union 2013) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFpzaQPKC54#ws)
Thumbs: Thumbs:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Post by: Steve on September 11, 2013, 11:45:32 PM
It was good yes but it doesn't take anything special to make Barroso look stupid.Nigel Farage offers Barroso some cooling news (State of the Union 2013) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFpzaQPKC54#ws)
Excellent! Thumbs:
Post by: Grumpmeister on September 13, 2013, 07:49:09 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10306461/EU-auditors-must-tone-down-criticism-of-Brussels-spending-says-Herman-Van-Rompuy.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10306461/EU-auditors-must-tone-down-criticism-of-Brussels-spending-says-Herman-Van-Rompuy.html)
Post by: Barman on September 14, 2013, 04:24:42 AM
Something tells me that this will lead to a corking speech from Nigel soon rubschin:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10306461/EU-auditors-must-tone-down-criticism-of-Brussels-spending-says-Herman-Van-Rompuy.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10306461/EU-auditors-must-tone-down-criticism-of-Brussels-spending-says-Herman-Van-Rompuy.html)
I despair.... noooo:
Post by: Barman on September 20, 2013, 07:52:05 PM
worthy:
Post by: Baldy on September 20, 2013, 08:11:06 PM
Nigel Farage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlhaLnYmIYY#)
worthy:
Shocked: Shocked: Thumbs:
The wank stains that have got away with it together with their swivel servent Quangos have brought the UK to it's knees. I feel for the general public that have to pay for these idiots. noooo:
Post by: Barman on October 25, 2013, 03:36:59 PM
Post by: Steve on October 25, 2013, 03:43:18 PM
Rise of Eurosceptism is an Assertion of Identity - Nigel Farage (v.4x3) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVorAQUtHHY#)Yep, a very good one :thumbsup:
Post by: Barman on October 25, 2013, 04:05:46 PM
Rise of Eurosceptism is an Assertion of Identity - Nigel Farage (v.4x3) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVorAQUtHHY#)Yep, a very good one :thumbsup:
Shocked:
Post by: Steve on October 25, 2013, 04:10:35 PM
Post by: Barman on November 02, 2013, 08:54:08 AM
Great interview on LBC.... Thumbs:
Probably a bit long for you Steve.... ;)
Post by: Steve on November 02, 2013, 11:41:55 AM
Will watch (captions) or listen to the rest later
Update: he was better than normal but at 24minutes in he tells a whopper
Quote from: Nigel Farage
60% of private sector jobs are provided by companies with less than 10 employees
The true figure is 32.4% and you have to include companies up to 250 employees to get up to 59% http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN06152.pdf (http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN06152.pdf)
He also said that Wind Power produces zero when the wind'sreally blowing. Now I may hate the damn things but the facts are that they were producing over 2GW (over 5% of UK consumption) at the height of Monday's storm and in tonights windy conditions are producing over 5GW right now.
http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/download.php (http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/download.php)
He's way too quick to throw out untrue but populist quotes just to win popularity. He also ends with his vision of most UK workers having no employment protection whatsoever and that's more than a little sus.
Oh he repeated that lie about the cat and invented imaginary populations for Bulgaria and Romania too. NF: a smile, a joke, a fact, a lie. Repeat until enough taken in.
A decent interview host would have shredded him
Post by: Barman on November 05, 2013, 08:47:16 PM
First few minutes are good, got to give him huge credit for being the only party leader to actually defend energy companies making a 5% profit.
Will watch (captions) or listen to the rest later
Update: he was better than normal but at 24minutes in he tells a whopperQuote from: Nigel Farage60% of private sector jobs are provided by companies with less than 10 employees
The true figure is 32.4% and you have to include companies up to 250 employees to get up to 59% http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN06152.pdf (http://www.parliament.uk/briefing-papers/SN06152.pdf)
He also said that Wind Power produces zero when the wind'sreally blowing. Now I may hate the damn things but the facts are that they were producing over 2GW (over 5% of UK consumption) at the height of Monday's storm and in tonights windy conditions are producing over 5GW right now.
http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/download.php (http://www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk/download.php)
He's way too quick to throw out untrue but populist quotes just to win popularity. He also ends with his vision of most UK workers having no employment protection whatsoever and that's more than a little sus.
Oh he repeated that lie about the cat and invented imaginary populations for Bulgaria and Romania too. NF: a smile, a joke, a fact, a lie. Repeat until enough taken in.
A decent interview host would have shredded him
You should check your figures too...
You can't have your 32.4% figure on one hand and then claim that "most UK workers having no employment protection"...
Having employed 45 people I'm completely with him on the employment protection thing... Current employment legislation is a complete nightmare... Honestly, I would NEVER employ anybody ever again....
And he's right about wind turbines - they don't produce power when there is too little or too much wind - the fact they produced 2GW (only 20% of the installed capacity) during the storm somewhat proves the point doesn't it....? You would hope that when it was really windy they would be spinning around like tops and your lekky meter would be going backwards.... Of course the don't, they have to feather the blades to protect the gearbox...
For me, it was a great interview...
Post by: Steve on November 05, 2013, 09:05:23 PM
. . .You should check your figures too...No need. He clearly wanted us to assess his submission on the (incorrect) understanding that 60% of workers were in businesses of 10 or less. He then wanted us to accept stripping all employment protection from employees of such businesses. So he's wanting to persuade us to remove all employment protection from 60% of all workers.
You can't have your 32.4% figure on one hand and then claim that "most UK workers having no employment protection"...
Post by: Barman on November 05, 2013, 09:09:42 PM
. . .You should check your figures too...No need. He clearly wanted us to assess his submission on the (incorrect) understanding that 60% of workers were in businesses of 10 or less. He then wanted us to accept stripping all employment protection from employees of such businesses. So he's wanting to persuade us to remove all employment protection from 60% of all workers.
You can't have your 32.4% figure on one hand and then claim that "most UK workers having no employment protection"...
But you are playing the same game you accuse him of....
He can't be wrong on both counts can he...?
Post by: Steve on November 05, 2013, 09:17:24 PM
Err yes he can. . .You should check your figures too...No need. He clearly wanted us to assess his submission on the (incorrect) understanding that 60% of workers were in businesses of 10 or less. He then wanted us to accept stripping all employment protection from employees of such businesses. So he's wanting to persuade us to remove all employment protection from 60% of all workers.
You can't have your 32.4% figure on one hand and then claim that "most UK workers having no employment protection"...
But you are playing the same game you accuse him of....
He can't be wrong on both counts can he...?
He introduced a false stat to ry and show how UK business was so different to the EU
He then said he wanted to remove all protection from employees of such businesses. It's dead fair to assess his idea in the conditions of the stat he wanted us to use. Or are you saying we should let him off for being a fibber?
Post by: Barman on November 05, 2013, 09:28:42 PM
Err yes he can. . .You should check your figures too...No need. He clearly wanted us to assess his submission on the (incorrect) understanding that 60% of workers were in businesses of 10 or less. He then wanted us to accept stripping all employment protection from employees of such businesses. So he's wanting to persuade us to remove all employment protection from 60% of all workers.
You can't have your 32.4% figure on one hand and then claim that "most UK workers having no employment protection"...
But you are playing the same game you accuse him of....
He can't be wrong on both counts can he...?
He introduced a false stat to ry and show how UK business was so different to the EU
He then said he wanted to remove all protection from employees of such businesses. It's dead fair to assess his idea in the conditions of the stat he wanted us to use. Or are you saying we should let him off for being a fibber?
Well.... for you it is clearly case closed and the man can say/do no right in your eyes....
For me, I'd be tempted to look more closely at the figures before writing him off on this one... just as I did on the wind farm claim....
As it turns out he was right and you were wrong - even when it is blowing like fuck windy millers don't produce their rated capacity... or perhaps some did and some were useless because it was too windy....
Personally, I don't think for a second that he would pull the 60% figure out of his arse...
Post by: Steve on November 05, 2013, 09:57:40 PM
He was the one that said they produce ZERO and the stats say he's wrong
And when did I say "the man can say/do no right"
If you look back I said no such things and I even gave him credit but even his biggest fan would have to admit he's gaff and fib prone.
Post by: Barman on November 05, 2013, 10:05:54 PM
When did I say they produce their rated capacity when it's windy?
He was the one that said they produce ZERO and the stats say he's wrong
And when did I say "the man can say/do no right"
If you look back I said no such things and I even gave him credit but even his biggest fan would have to admit he's gaff and fib prone.
Well, given the storm was patchy to say the least....
...and given that during the storm (the windy storm when it was really windy and there was plenty of wind) all the windy millers produced only 20% of their rated capacity...
... I for one am willing to believe that some of them produced zero...
Sorry, I thought it was established fact that windy millers had to be feathered when the wind exceeded certain speeds....
I think picking him up on that point proves the other... ;)
Post by: Steve on November 05, 2013, 10:23:54 PM
But they collectively didn't produce zero at any point.
Post by: Barman on November 06, 2013, 06:22:42 AM
I'd effin bet a fortune that some were feathered and producing zero. And I hate the damn things.
But they collectively didn't produce zero at any point.
Oh Steve.... ::)
Post by: Grumpmeister on November 25, 2013, 05:41:23 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2513006/How-Britain-ashamed-Great-Major-new-book-argues-liberal-self-loathing-threatens-values-define-nation.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2513006/How-Britain-ashamed-Great-Major-new-book-argues-liberal-self-loathing-threatens-values-define-nation.html)
Post by: Barman on December 11, 2013, 02:23:56 PM
Post by: Baldy on December 11, 2013, 04:31:05 PM
Open doors leading to earthquake in British politics next May - @Nigel_Farage @UKIP (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rg1YpKuWOzs#ws)
Thumbs:
Post by: Barman on January 17, 2014, 04:28:49 PM
Somebody should post this on the Cyprus Forum Apey..... whistle:
Post by: Nick on January 17, 2014, 04:37:10 PM
Post by: Barman on January 17, 2014, 04:37:58 PM
Everyone I know is voting UKIP in the Euro elections :thumbsup:
At least two votes then! Thumbs:
Post by: Nick on January 17, 2014, 04:40:11 PM
Post by: apc2010 on January 17, 2014, 04:47:55 PM
Everyone I know is voting UKIP in the Euro elections :thumbsup:
Is that good .......... rubschin:
Post by: Nick on January 17, 2014, 04:49:19 PM
Post by: apc2010 on January 17, 2014, 04:51:24 PM
Farage: We Are Now Run By Big Business, Big Banks and Big Bureaucrats (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYn0lTeFNV4#ws)
Somebody should post this on the Cyprus Forum Apey..... whistle:
Will do later......... Thumbs:
Post by: Barman on January 17, 2014, 04:56:39 PM
Farage: We Are Now Run By Big Business, Big Banks and Big Bureaucrats (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYn0lTeFNV4#ws)
Somebody should post this on the Cyprus Forum Apey..... whistle:
Will do later......... Thumbs:
cloud9:
Post by: Baldy on January 17, 2014, 06:22:18 PM
Farage: We Are Now Run By Big Business, Big Banks and Big Bureaucrats (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYn0lTeFNV4#ws)
Somebody should post this on the Cyprus Forum Apey..... whistle:
Will do later......... Thumbs:
Next to your sausage roll enquiry. noooo:
Post by: Barman on January 20, 2014, 03:39:44 PM
cloud9:
Post by: Steve on January 24, 2014, 12:49:59 AM
Farage: We Are Now Run By Big Business, Big Banks and Big Bureaucrats (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYn0lTeFNV4#ws)Seems Nigel has torn up the whole UKIP manifesto
Somebody should post this on the Cyprus Forum Apey..... whistle:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10592808/Nigel-Farage-disowns-the-entire-2010-Ukip-manifesto.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/10592808/Nigel-Farage-disowns-the-entire-2010-Ukip-manifesto.html)
Good, it ran completely contrary to the sentiments in that speech ^ Does this suggest a power struggle in UKIP or even that Nigel has 'nailed' his internal opposition?
Post by: The Moan Ranger on January 27, 2014, 09:24:36 AM
Post by: Barman on January 27, 2014, 09:28:19 AM
Nigel Farage gives UKIP weather forecast (26Jan14) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1LpHODOgjM#ws)
He is excellent isn't he? ;D
Post by: The Moan Ranger on January 27, 2014, 09:36:56 AM
Nigel Farage gives UKIP weather forecast (26Jan14) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1LpHODOgjM#ws)
He is excellent isn't he? ;D
He is :thumbsup:
Post by: Steve on January 27, 2014, 01:43:22 PM
Nigel Farage gives UKIP weather forecast (26Jan14) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1LpHODOgjM#ws)
Very good
Post by: Grumpmeister on February 20, 2014, 01:06:35 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2563718/Clegg-challenges-Farage-live-debate-Britain-leaving-EU-Lib-Dems-battle-survival-Brussels-elections.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2563718/Clegg-challenges-Farage-live-debate-Britain-leaving-EU-Lib-Dems-battle-survival-Brussels-elections.html)
Post by: Barman on February 20, 2014, 01:08:36 PM
I'm hoping that Nigel accepts the challenge rubschin:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2563718/Clegg-challenges-Farage-live-debate-Britain-leaving-EU-Lib-Dems-battle-survival-Brussels-elections.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2563718/Clegg-challenges-Farage-live-debate-Britain-leaving-EU-Lib-Dems-battle-survival-Brussels-elections.html)
He is going to reply tomorrow on LBC...
I dunno.... I think if I was him I'd take up the challenge after the Euro elections...
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on February 20, 2014, 01:11:58 PM
I'm hoping that Nigel accepts the challenge rubschin:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2563718/Clegg-challenges-Farage-live-debate-Britain-leaving-EU-Lib-Dems-battle-survival-Brussels-elections.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2563718/Clegg-challenges-Farage-live-debate-Britain-leaving-EU-Lib-Dems-battle-survival-Brussels-elections.html)
He is going to reply tomorrow on LBC...
I dunno.... I think if I was him I'd take up the challenge after the Euro elections...
See UKIP answer here! (http://www.ukip.org/newsroom/news/1177-ukip-responds-to-nick-clegg-s-invitation-to-a-televised-debate)
Post by: Barman on February 20, 2014, 01:18:03 PM
I'm hoping that Nigel accepts the challenge rubschin:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2563718/Clegg-challenges-Farage-live-debate-Britain-leaving-EU-Lib-Dems-battle-survival-Brussels-elections.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2563718/Clegg-challenges-Farage-live-debate-Britain-leaving-EU-Lib-Dems-battle-survival-Brussels-elections.html)
He is going to reply tomorrow on LBC...
I dunno.... I think if I was him I'd take up the challenge after the Euro elections...
See UKIP answer here! (http://www.ukip.org/newsroom/news/1177-ukip-responds-to-nick-clegg-s-invitation-to-a-televised-debate)
Does it say he is going to reply tomorrow on LBC...?
Post by: Steve on February 20, 2014, 01:39:12 PM
Post by: Barman on February 20, 2014, 01:53:13 PM
Farage is too canny to get caught that easily but an interesting move by Clegg. Many more moves to be had in this chess game yet.
Agreed. He is likely to be in a much better position (and Cleggy significantly worse) after the Euro elections...
Post by: Grumpmeister on February 20, 2014, 01:57:52 PM
Post by: Steve on February 21, 2014, 11:25:20 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26287197 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26287197)
I were wrong
Post by: Barman on February 21, 2014, 11:35:16 AM
eeek: seems Nigel said yes
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26287197 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-26287197)
I were wrong
eeek:
I were wrong too....
Will be an interesting watch if it ever comes off....
Post by: Steve on April 25, 2014, 09:46:50 AM
http://youtu.be/aARKlOOypaQ (http://youtu.be/aARKlOOypaQ)
Farage has just had to sack the guy that appears 1 minute in
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27151509 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27151509)
He's arguably the only true leader in the UK parties but jeez he's struggling to get a team he can trust to boil an egg
Oh dear...
Sadly, he does need a squeaky-clean team as everything the part does is put under such scrutiny... It is amazing how many smear articles there are in the MSM at the moment.
I can't help but think if they bothered to analyse the output of the other parties in the same detail they'd find the same thing....
Worth watching his slot on BBC breakfast today (starts 8.12 am if it's on iPlayer) again he was excellent. He actually pretty much echoed what I said ^ saying that builder's odious comments were repellent, that something had gone very wrong and he would launch an inquiry etc.
Nigel's had a very good 6 months. He's cleared out some of UKIPs worst people and policies, surprised most by trouncing Clegg and as I said he is the only real leader in any of the major parties. But if he really wants to move on from a probable EU election triumph then he is going to have to get a team around him that he can trust and most importantly are not at home to Mr Cock-Up.
Post by: Barman on April 25, 2014, 09:51:42 AM
This this is best replied to herehttp://youtu.be/aARKlOOypaQ (http://youtu.be/aARKlOOypaQ)
Farage has just had to sack the guy that appears 1 minute in
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27151509 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-27151509)
He's arguably the only true leader in the UK parties but jeez he's struggling to get a team he can trust to boil an egg
Oh dear...
Sadly, he does need a squeaky-clean team as everything the part does is put under such scrutiny... It is amazing how many smear articles there are in the MSM at the moment.
I can't help but think if they bothered to analyse the output of the other parties in the same detail they'd find the same thing....
Worth watching his slot on BBC breakfast today (starts 8.12 am if it's on iPlayer) again he was excellent. He actually pretty much echoed what I said ^ saying that builder's odious comments were repellent, that something had gone very wrong and he would launch an inquiry etc.
Nigel's had a very good 6 months. He's cleared out some of UKIPs worst people and policies, surprised most by trouncing Clegg and as I said he is the only real leader in any of the major parties. But if he really wants to move on from a probable EU election triumph then he is going to have to get a team around him that he can trust and most importantly are not at home to Mr Cock-Up.
It will be interesting after the Euro elections.... I wonder if some MPs might consider swapping sides....
Post by: Grumpmeister on April 30, 2014, 12:49:39 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2616118/Tory-Patrick-Mercer-trigger-election-told-faces-kicked-Parliament-six-months.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2616118/Tory-Patrick-Mercer-trigger-election-told-faces-kicked-Parliament-six-months.html)
Post by: Barman on April 30, 2014, 06:15:48 AM
Something tells me that this has a good chance of seeing Ukip's first elected MP.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2616118/Tory-Patrick-Mercer-trigger-election-told-faces-kicked-Parliament-six-months.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2616118/Tory-Patrick-Mercer-trigger-election-told-faces-kicked-Parliament-six-months.html)
Excellent! Sinister:
Post by: apc2010 on April 30, 2014, 09:25:16 AM
Post by: Baldy on April 30, 2014, 03:55:24 PM
He annouced this morning he will not be standing himself,,,,,,,,
No need for him to stand, put another candidate in to 'test the water'.....then go from there. Thumbs:
Post by: Barman on April 30, 2014, 06:34:17 PM
He annouced this morning he will not be standing himself,,,,,,,,
No need for him to stand, put another candidate in to 'test the water'.....then go from there. Thumbs:
Agreed.... I think he made the right decision....
UKIP now 36% in the Euro polls! Thumbs:
Post by: Steve on April 30, 2014, 07:32:48 PM
But they have to get to 50% or the game is upHe annouced this morning he will not be standing himself,,,,,,,,
No need for him to stand, put another candidate in to 'test the water'.....then go from there. Thumbs:
Agreed.... I think he made the right decision....
UKIP now 36% in the Euro polls! Thumbs:
Quote from: Nigel Farage
It’s time to decide. We don’t need to wait until 2017 to have a
referendum: let’s have one right now. Use the European
Elections on 22 May to tell them what you think about the EU. . . .
. . . Use May 22nd as the EU Referendum
the other parties have denied you and
vote UKIP to leave the EU
UKIP Euro manfesto (http://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/themes/5308a93901925b5b09000002/attachments/original/1398167812/EuroManifestoMarch.pdf?1398167812)
Post by: The Moan Ranger on April 30, 2014, 08:08:24 PM
Post by: Barman on May 01, 2014, 05:45:36 AM
Somw twat in the Times today said he couldn't understand Farage not standing in Newark as the amusing anagram would make him an ideal candidate... noooo:
noooo:
Post by: Grumpmeister on May 04, 2014, 05:05:15 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2619781/David-Cameron-pledges-head-head-Ukip-leader-Nigel-Farage-televised-debate-run-2015-general-election.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2619781/David-Cameron-pledges-head-head-Ukip-leader-Nigel-Farage-televised-debate-run-2015-general-election.html)
Post by: Barman on May 04, 2014, 07:13:27 AM
Looks like Cameron vs Farage is on the cards... eveilgrin:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2619781/David-Cameron-pledges-head-head-Ukip-leader-Nigel-Farage-televised-debate-run-2015-general-election.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2619781/David-Cameron-pledges-head-head-Ukip-leader-Nigel-Farage-televised-debate-run-2015-general-election.html)
eveilgrin:
Post by: Barman on May 22, 2014, 12:28:51 PM
http://youtu.be/7N1EUtNDj3o (http://youtu.be/7N1EUtNDj3o)
Worthy:
Post by: Nick on June 09, 2014, 04:19:31 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/10885373/Junking-Junckers-pointless.-It-doesnt-matter-who-gets-the-job.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/10885373/Junking-Junckers-pointless.-It-doesnt-matter-who-gets-the-job.html)
Post by: Steve on June 09, 2014, 05:02:33 PM
As does Boris :thumbsup:A good read but I disagree, this decision matters. For us not to veto Juncker as is would be dishonest.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/10885373/Junking-Junckers-pointless.-It-doesnt-matter-who-gets-the-job.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/10885373/Junking-Junckers-pointless.-It-doesnt-matter-who-gets-the-job.html)
If only Lagarde wanted the job but seems she doesn't.
Post by: Barman on July 02, 2014, 04:01:28 PM
Post by: Grumpmeister on July 11, 2014, 06:06:48 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10960379/MEPs-encouraged-to-wear-official-sash-of-European-Parliament.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/10960379/MEPs-encouraged-to-wear-official-sash-of-European-Parliament.html)
Quote
"Why shouldn't our MEPs dress up too? This is the world's first transnational parliament and it is special," said an official.
Hmm I think I'll field that one for you, perhaps its because there is a large and growing portion of the electorate in EU states that are sick of the cost and arrogance of the establishment. Realising that with each passing day it matters less and less who they vote for in elections as the unelected leadership of the EU (and let's be honest here, the public can elect MEP's but they are then unable to have any input on critical positions such as EU president which is decided by the blocs who decide what best suits their own interests and not necessarily those of the electorate).
So yes, if you think that wearing a scrap of fabric can fix all the problems and make everyone love the EU project then go right ahead, I can sell you some rose tinted spectacles to go with them. But the MEP's can pay for this out of their own pockets, god knows between the pay and benefits they certainly earn enough to afford them.
Post by: Barman on July 11, 2014, 06:09:14 PM
Nigel's reaction to this should be corking. The EU, in it's infinite wisdom, has decided that what the public needs to get back behind the project is an official sash with the EU flag on it. Because that's what we really need isn't it, forget the rampant corruption, arrogance and sheer ineptitude of most of the establishment all the problems that the public see within the EU can be solved by wearing a scrap of fabric that you too can own for the bargain price of £107.Quote"Why shouldn't our MEPs dress up too? This is the world's first transnational parliament and it is special," said an official.
Hmm I think I'll field that one for you, perhaps its because there is a large and growing portion of the electorate in EU states that are sick of the cost and arrogance of the establishment. Realising that with each passing day it matters less and less who they vote for in elections as the unelected leadership of the EU (and let's be honest here, the public can elect MEP's but they are then unable to have any input on critical positions such as EU president which is decided by the blocs who decide what best suits their own interests and not necessarily those of the electorate).
So yes, if you think that wearing a scrap of fabric can fix all the problems and make everyone love the EU project then go right ahead, I can sell you some rose tinted spectacles to go with them. But the MEP's can pay for this out of their own pockets, god knows between the pay and benefits they certainly earn enough to afford them.
I wouldn't wipe my arse on it..... noooo:
Post by: Barman on July 17, 2014, 04:22:32 PM
Post by: Barman on September 16, 2014, 01:33:11 PM
Post by: Barman on September 27, 2014, 03:38:39 PM
Post by: The Moan Ranger on October 10, 2014, 12:53:00 PM
Post by: Barman on October 10, 2014, 02:37:21 PM
Satisfactory results last night
Most excellent! cloud9:
Post by: Barman on October 21, 2014, 05:10:06 PM
cloud9:
Post by: Barman on October 22, 2014, 12:21:29 PM
http://youtu.be/iRnRFQ6hEhI (http://youtu.be/iRnRFQ6hEhI)
Post by: Barman on November 07, 2014, 01:12:50 PM
cloud9:
Post by: Barman on December 02, 2014, 09:37:41 PM
worthy:
Post by: Steve on December 05, 2014, 01:46:23 PM
:thumbsup:
Post by: Barman on December 05, 2014, 02:53:29 PM
Nigel says "Don't breastfeed in an "openly ostentatious" way (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30342953)
:thumbsup:
Thumbs:
Post by: Darwins Selection on December 05, 2014, 03:27:56 PM
Nigel says "Don't breastfeed in an "openly ostentatious" way (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-30342953)
:thumbsup:
I would have thought he had a proven affinity for openly ostentatious tits.
Post by: Uncle Mort on December 05, 2014, 07:39:28 PM
would have thought he had a proven affinity for openly ostentatious tits.
:thumbsup:
Post by: Nick on December 05, 2014, 08:19:23 PM
Post by: Barman on December 11, 2014, 03:32:13 PM
Post by: apc2010 on December 11, 2014, 03:34:10 PM
Farage meets Brand on QT tonight! eveilgrin:
Time....... rubschin:
Post by: Barman on December 11, 2014, 03:36:43 PM
Farage meets Brand on QT tonight! eveilgrin:
Time....... rubschin:
22:35 UK time.....
Post by: apc2010 on December 11, 2014, 03:39:49 PM
Farage meets Brand on QT tonight! eveilgrin:
Time....... rubschin:
22:35 UK time.....
Thumbs: guess you will watch it tomorrow.......... whistle:
Post by: Barman on December 11, 2014, 03:53:31 PM
Farage meets Brand on QT tonight! eveilgrin:
Time....... rubschin:
22:35 UK time.....
Thumbs: guess you will watch it tomorrow.......... whistle:
redface:
Post by: Steve on December 12, 2014, 12:12:40 AM
and search for Farage or Brand. Looks like each will have won with their own supporters but Farage will have looked better to the middle ground
I see someone's stats haven't got any better though
"In 1990 the population of this country was 55 million. It is now between 62 and 63 million and that is a massive increase."
It was 55 million in 1967 Nigel, it's now just over 64 million. (Long story why I knew that)
Post by: Uncle Mort on December 12, 2014, 10:32:21 AM
Post by: apc2010 on December 12, 2014, 10:34:50 AM
He wasn't that far out as the population in 1990 was just over 57 million.
That's what I thought....... rubschin:
Post by: Barman on December 12, 2014, 11:21:36 AM
Post by: apc2010 on December 12, 2014, 11:36:17 AM
I've just started to watch it and already want to hang Brand by the neck until nearly dead..... noooo:
A hippie millionaire........ noooo:
Post by: Steve on December 12, 2014, 12:55:54 PM
I've just started to watch it and already want to hang Brand by the neck until nearly dead..... noooo:
I believe there is a queue
He has his moments though. I can forgive him a lot (about 20% of his shit) for having the nerve to go live on US Tele and tell them their president was "a retarded cowboy who in Britain wouldn't be trusted with scissors"
Post by: Darwins Selection on December 12, 2014, 01:00:45 PM
I've just started to watch it and already want to hang Brand by the neck until nearly dead..... noooo:
I believe there is a queue
He has his moments though. I can forgive him a lot (about 20% of his shit) for having the nerve to go live on US Tele and tell them their president was "a retarded cowboy who in Britain wouldn't be trusted with scissors"
I think that is why BM said "until nearly dead".
Post by: Barman on December 12, 2014, 01:19:05 PM
I've just started to watch it and already want to hang Brand by the neck until nearly dead..... noooo:
I believe there is a queue
He has his moments though. I can forgive him a lot (about 20% of his shit) for having the nerve to go live on US Tele and tell them their president was "a retarded cowboy who in Britain wouldn't be trusted with scissors"
I think that is why BM said "until nearly dead".
No, I'd draw and quarter him after that..... eveilgrin:
Post by: Steve on December 14, 2014, 11:30:47 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11290407/Labours-secret-Ukip-strategy-full-details-of-what-the-party-admits-in-leaked-document.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11290407/Labours-secret-Ukip-strategy-full-details-of-what-the-party-admits-in-leaked-document.html)
Post by: apc2010 on December 14, 2014, 11:41:17 PM
Post by: Barman on December 15, 2014, 07:01:35 AM
More like Millipede nails it for Nigel but some spectacular foot in mouthery by Labour here:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11290407/Labours-secret-Ukip-strategy-full-details-of-what-the-party-admits-in-leaked-document.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/labour/11290407/Labours-secret-Ukip-strategy-full-details-of-what-the-party-admits-in-leaked-document.html)
And a nice hatchet job by the Torygraph too! ;D
Post by: Barman on December 16, 2014, 04:42:34 PM
cloud9:
Post by: Baldy on December 16, 2014, 06:25:18 PM
http://youtu.be/qtahavoPMnc (http://youtu.be/qtahavoPMnc)
cloud9:
lol: lol:
Post by: Steve on December 23, 2014, 02:48:32 PM
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/dec/22/nigel-farage-sixth-fomers-ukip-parody-app-nicholas-fromage?CMP=EMCNEWEML6619I2
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on December 27, 2014, 11:11:01 AM
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/leaders/article4307559.ece (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/leaders/article4307559.ece)
Post by: Barman on December 27, 2014, 12:28:03 PM
This is welcome news . . .
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/leaders/article4307559.ece (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/leaders/article4307559.ece)
Paywalled.... evil:
Post by: Steve on December 27, 2014, 05:00:56 PM
This is welcome news . . .
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/leaders/article4307559.ece (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/opinion/leaders/article4307559.ece)
Paywalled.... evil:
point:
It's all in the opening sentence "Nigel Farage is a game-changing politician and The Times Briton of the Year"
I'd say the article is a double edged sword as it goes on to say he was 2010's big loser and 2014's big winner but the big question will be 2015. Last 2 paras:
Quote
. . . The established political parties have not been able to ignore Ukip, however, whatever they may think of its more toxic members. Just as in the first half of the parliament Mr Farage’s threat to the Tory vote forced Mr Cameron to promise an EU referendum, his advances in 2014 have forced Mr Miliband to pay more attention to the concerns of heartland Labour voters who worry about immigration.
The year 2014 may turn out to be Ukip’s high point. As the general election approaches, surging support for the Scottish nationalists could elbow Mr Farage from the limelight. After the election he may decide to spend more time with his cigarettes and pints. For the moment, however, no one did more to shape British politics in 2014. For good and ill he is therefore The Times Briton of the Year
I'd copy and paste it all but irritatingly it'll take multiple copies the way they've mixed it up
Post by: Barman on January 13, 2015, 10:17:37 AM
Post by: Steve on January 14, 2015, 07:06:36 PM
He has an Manifesto (http://thepublandlord.com/)
Quote
The Guv's common sense message to the UK
I, Al Murray - The Pub Landlord, intend to stand in the general election for the hotly contested Kent constituency of South Thanet as part of the Free United Kingdom Party. My 13-point common sense action plan to save this country includes:
• The pound in your pocket
The pound will be revalued at one pound 10p, so it will now be worth 10p more. Common sense.
• The NHS
If you come to A&E and it’s neither an accident nor an emergency then you will be sent to a random hospital department to be practised on. Common sense.
• Foreign Policy
Germany has been too quiet for too long. Just saying.
• Immigration
Of course the reason they are coming here is because this is the greatest country in the world. The only way to stop them is for a government to change that and make things a whole lot worse. Look no further. However, in the meantime, we brick up the Channel Tunnel. With British bricks. Probably have to get some Poles in to do it. Common sense.
• Education
I believe the children are the future and there’s no way you'll get me knocking teachers. Teachers are on the front line, coalface. Doing their bit to create a level playing field for our kids, although I'm not sure they're going about it the right way by making sure none of the kids can read and write. So instead of a postcode lottery a new improved Street Raffle will determine which schools your kids get in to. Common sense.
• Scotland
Alex Salmond to be made First Minister for Norwich, so he can get to understand what being ignored by the rest of the country is really like. Common sense.
• Europe
I pledge that the UK will leave Europe by 2025 and the edge of the Solar System by 2050. Common market sense. In the meantime Greece to be bought and operated by Kent County Council. Couldn’t be worse. Someone to do the bins at least.
• The environment
Boris Johnson to be put on an island. He keeps saying that’s what he wants.
• Corporations and Globalisation
Blah blah blah blah blah paradigm blah blah blah, blah blah dialectic blah blah blah blah blah blah game-changer.
• Homes for hard working families
Build some houses but without bringing down house prices. How hard can it be?
• Defence
National Service, but only for people who don’t want to do it.
• Law and Order
Unemployment causes crime: I propose to lock up the unemployed. Common sense.
• On Local issues
South Thanet to be made the new capital of the UK. Demilitarised zone to set-up between North and South Thanet.
Post by: apc2010 on January 14, 2015, 07:12:08 PM
Bad news for Nigel? Al Murray/Pub Landlord to stand against Nigel Farage (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-30819779)
He has an Manifesto (http://thepublandlord.com/)Quote
The Guv's common sense message to the UK
I, Al Murray - The Pub Landlord, intend to stand in the general election for the hotly contested Kent constituency of South Thanet as part of the Free United Kingdom Party. My 13-point common sense action plan to save this country includes:
• The pound in your pocket
The pound will be revalued at one pound 10p, so it will now be worth 10p more. Common sense.
• The NHS
If you come to A&E and it’s neither an accident nor an emergency then you will be sent to a random hospital department to be practised on. Common sense.
• Foreign Policy
Germany has been too quiet for too long. Just saying.
• Immigration
Of course the reason they are coming here is because this is the greatest country in the world. The only way to stop them is for a government to change that and make things a whole lot worse. Look no further. However, in the meantime, we brick up the Channel Tunnel. With British bricks. Probably have to get some Poles in to do it. Common sense.
• Education
I believe the children are the future and there’s no way you'll get me knocking teachers. Teachers are on the front line, coalface. Doing their bit to create a level playing field for our kids, although I'm not sure they're going about it the right way by making sure none of the kids can read and write. So instead of a postcode lottery a new improved Street Raffle will determine which schools your kids get in to. Common sense.
• Scotland
Alex Salmond to be made First Minister for Norwich, so he can get to understand what being ignored by the rest of the country is really like. Common sense.
• Europe
I pledge that the UK will leave Europe by 2025 and the edge of the Solar System by 2050. Common market sense. In the meantime Greece to be bought and operated by Kent County Council. Couldn’t be worse. Someone to do the bins at least.
• The environment
Boris Johnson to be put on an island. He keeps saying that’s what he wants.
• Corporations and Globalisation
Blah blah blah blah blah paradigm blah blah blah, blah blah dialectic blah blah blah blah blah blah game-changer.
• Homes for hard working families
Build some houses but without bringing down house prices. How hard can it be?
• Defence
National Service, but only for people who don’t want to do it.
• Law and Order
Unemployment causes crime: I propose to lock up the unemployed. Common sense.
• On Local issues
South Thanet to be made the new capital of the UK. Demilitarised zone to set-up between North and South Thanet.
;D ;D
Post by: Barman on February 11, 2015, 01:46:26 PM
Post by: Barman on February 12, 2015, 03:34:20 PM
cloud9:
Post by: Nick on February 14, 2015, 10:08:57 PM
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs17.postimg.org%2F8obd0j7jf%2Ffarage.jpg&hash=f6442473ded257c887e36e0e30c2a2f36a2be5a9) (http://postimg.org/image/8obd0j7jf/)
rubschin: rubschin: rubschin: rubschin:
Post by: Uncle Mort on February 15, 2015, 09:42:26 AM
rubschin: rubschin: rubschin:
Post by: Steve on February 15, 2015, 10:55:28 AM
Channel 4 drama-documentary Ukip: The First Hundred Days imagines Nigel Farage in power – and Britain in meltdown (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/channel-4-dramadocumentary-ukip-the-first-hundred-days-imagines-nigel-farage-in-power--and-britain-in-meltdown-10046787.html)noooo: such should not be allowed this close to an election
rubschin: rubschin: rubschin:
Post by: apc2010 on February 15, 2015, 11:27:50 AM
Channel 4 drama-documentary Ukip: The First Hundred Days imagines Nigel Farage in power – and Britain in meltdown (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/channel-4-dramadocumentary-ukip-the-first-hundred-days-imagines-nigel-farage-in-power--and-britain-in-meltdown-10046787.html)noooo: such should not be allowed this close to an election
rubschin: rubschin: rubschin:
Agreed.......... noooo:
Post by: Barman on February 15, 2015, 01:04:21 PM
Channel 4 drama-documentary Ukip: The First Hundred Days imagines Nigel Farage in power – and Britain in meltdown (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/tv/news/channel-4-dramadocumentary-ukip-the-first-hundred-days-imagines-nigel-farage-in-power--and-britain-in-meltdown-10046787.html)noooo: such should not be allowed this close to an election
rubschin: rubschin: rubschin:
Agreed.......... noooo:
+1 Thumbs:
Post by: Uncle Mort on February 17, 2015, 01:39:07 PM
No surprise there then.
Post by: Barman on February 17, 2015, 01:53:03 PM
Ukip drama sparks 1000 complaints to Ofcom and Channel 4 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-31505966)
No surprise there then.
Did anybody watch it...?
Post by: The Moan Ranger on February 17, 2015, 01:54:53 PM
Post by: The Moan Ranger on February 17, 2015, 02:39:44 PM
Post by: Barman on February 17, 2015, 02:59:10 PM
Utter shite.
;D
Post by: Barman on February 28, 2015, 12:40:50 PM
Post by: Barman on March 07, 2015, 11:17:12 AM
happy001
Post by: Barman on March 11, 2015, 03:21:54 PM
cloud9:
Post by: Grumpmeister on April 13, 2015, 10:45:06 PM
eeek:
Post by: Steve on April 13, 2015, 11:51:22 PM
https://youtu.be/w8w-KJRLEaweeek: eeek: Popcorn:
eeek:
Post by: Barman on April 14, 2015, 06:11:25 AM
https://youtu.be/w8w-KJRLEaw
eeek:
eeek:
whacky115
Post by: Grumpmeister on April 14, 2015, 08:57:45 AM
Post by: Steve on April 14, 2015, 12:29:26 PM
Oh I don't know, it could set an interesting precedent. Would certainly make PMQ's more entertaining to watch Cameron, Milliband and co going hell for leather at one another with sharp objects. rubschin:Or get their wives mud wrestling on their behalf
Post by: Barman on April 15, 2015, 06:27:59 AM
Post by: Steve on April 15, 2015, 09:17:25 AM
rubschin:
"Amend the smoking ban to give pubs and clubs the choice to open smoking rooms provided they are properly ventilated and physically separated from non-smoking areas. Workers must not be required to enter smoking areas except for cleaning and other essential purposes when they are not in use" :thumbsup:
Post by: apc2010 on April 15, 2015, 09:19:53 AM
http://www.ukip.org/saving_the_pub_a_ukip_priority (http://www.ukip.org/saving_the_pub_a_ukip_priority)
rubschin:
"Amend the smoking ban to give pubs and clubs the choice to open smoking rooms provided they are properly ventilated and physically separated from non-smoking areas. Workers must not be required to enter smoking areas except for cleaning and other essential purposes when they are not in use" :thumbsup:
Thumbs:
Post by: Barman on April 15, 2015, 09:32:49 AM
http://www.ukip.org/saving_the_pub_a_ukip_priority (http://www.ukip.org/saving_the_pub_a_ukip_priority)
rubschin:
"Amend the smoking ban to give pubs and clubs the choice to open smoking rooms provided they are properly ventilated and physically separated from non-smoking areas. Workers must not be required to enter smoking areas except for cleaning and other essential purposes when they are not in use" :thumbsup:
I think that is bollox and a mistake in my humble opinion....
"Amend the smoking ban to give pubs and clubs the choice to be smoking or non-smoking." would be much better...
...all this bollox about ventilation, separate rooms and staff not allowed to enter while in use promotes the myth that SHS is dangerous.... And will lead to more bans and restrictions....
Post by: Steve on April 15, 2015, 11:34:10 AM
Much much better than their 2010 horror, looks like Carswell's wisdom is having an effect. But do the numbers add up?
They say this independent review says they do (https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/ukipdev/pages/1087/attachments/original/1429092458/thefiscalplan.pdf?1429092458)
IMHO it's neutral so leaves us with the current £90B a year deficit and climbing debt
Post by: Barman on April 29, 2015, 11:28:52 AM
happ096
Post by: apc2010 on May 08, 2015, 02:26:59 AM
Post by: Steve on May 08, 2015, 02:57:57 AM
rubschin:Indeed. All should be revealed around 6. If he wins South Thanet then he's still on a roll with the level of UKIP votes being reported and the disasters for others
Post by: Steve on May 08, 2015, 01:04:05 PM
Surely the time to call time and hand over to Carswell
Post by: Barman on May 08, 2015, 02:13:34 PM
So he's resigned but may stand for UKIP leader again after a summer in the pub rubschin:
Surely the time to call time and hand over to Carswell
That Suzanne Evans is awesome! Thumbs:
She'd make a great leader IMHO.....
Post by: Steve on May 08, 2015, 06:19:29 PM
So he's resigned but may stand for UKIP leader again after a summer in the pub rubschin:
Surely the time to call time and hand over to Carswell
That Suzanne Evans is awesome! Thumbs:
She'd make a great leader IMHO.....
Not wanting to appear shallow (well shallower) but is she a looker then?
Post by: Barman on May 08, 2015, 06:23:22 PM
So he's resigned but may stand for UKIP leader again after a summer in the pub rubschin:
Surely the time to call time and hand over to Carswell
That Suzanne Evans is awesome! Thumbs:
She'd make a great leader IMHO.....
Not wanting to appear shallow (well shallower) but is she a looker then?
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs18.postimg.org%2Fr0alx1gud%2FWk_Quga_Nu.jpg&hash=065b3a37b6a226e2038f426ecffa0dd4ccf2bf15) (http://postimg.org/image/r0alx1gud/)
noooo:
Post by: Steve on May 08, 2015, 07:37:24 PM
. . . except that.
Anyway I guess she's a smart cookie. Tinterweb says that much much improved manifesto was her doing. I still see Carswell as the real deal in UKIP but we'll see.
Post by: Nick on May 08, 2015, 07:44:03 PM
Post by: Barman on May 08, 2015, 07:45:37 PM
you never know. Dark night, two paper bags, a gallon of collapso and anything could happen . . .
. . . except that.
Anyway I guess she's a smart cookie. Tinterweb says that much much improved manifesto was her doing. I still see Carswell as the real deal in UKIP but we'll see.
But she is an wumman.... that counts for a lot these days...
I'd bet €100 to a bucket of piss that the next Labour leader will be an wumman...
Post by: Steve on May 08, 2015, 10:06:26 PM
Could well be but Chucker is the early favourite at the bookiesyou never know. Dark night, two paper bags, a gallon of collapso and anything could happen . . .
. . . except that.
Anyway I guess she's a smart cookie. Tinterweb says that much much improved manifesto was her doing. I still see Carswell as the real deal in UKIP but we'll see.
But she is an wumman.... that counts for a lot these days...
I'd bet €100 to a bucket of piss that the next Labour leader will be an wumman...
Post by: apc2010 on May 11, 2015, 03:23:23 PM
Thumbs:
Post by: Barman on May 11, 2015, 04:13:00 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3076929/Nigel-Farage-STAY-Ukip-leader-despite-pledging-walk-away-lost-bid-enter-Parliament.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3076929/Nigel-Farage-STAY-Ukip-leader-despite-pledging-walk-away-lost-bid-enter-Parliament.html)
Thumbs:
Yay!
Post by: Nick on May 11, 2015, 04:15:54 PM
Post by: apc2010 on May 11, 2015, 04:19:07 PM
I'd pay to see a Boris v. Nigel anything :thumbsup:
Gayer........ noooo:
Post by: Nick on May 11, 2015, 04:20:05 PM
Post by: Barman on May 11, 2015, 04:27:06 PM
I'd pay to see a Boris v. Nigel anything :thumbsup:
Mud wrestling...? eeek:
Post by: apc2010 on May 11, 2015, 04:28:18 PM
I'd pay to see a Boris v. Nigel anything :thumbsup:
Mud wrestling...? eeek:
The commons....... noooo:
Post by: Nick on May 11, 2015, 04:28:42 PM
Post by: Barman on May 11, 2015, 04:45:15 PM
I'd pay to see a Boris v. Nigel anything :thumbsup:
Mud wrestling...? eeek:
The commons....... noooo:
You started it! cussing:
Post by: apc2010 on May 11, 2015, 04:52:24 PM
I'd pay to see a Boris v. Nigel anything :thumbsup:
Mud wrestling...? eeek:
The commons....... noooo:
You started it! cussing:
noooo:
Post by: Steve on May 11, 2015, 08:31:04 PM
Just shows the lack of depth at the UKIP top. Their one true heavyweight (Carswell) has said he doesn't want the leadership (there have been rumours of him quitting UKIP) so what option did UKIP have?http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3076929/Nigel-Farage-STAY-Ukip-leader-despite-pledging-walk-away-lost-bid-enter-Parliament.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3076929/Nigel-Farage-STAY-Ukip-leader-despite-pledging-walk-away-lost-bid-enter-Parliament.html)
Thumbs:
Yay!
This U turn by Farage says nothing bad about him but there is a bitter realpolitik to consider. Never give someone a chance to lose a second general election. It rarely ends in smiles.
Post by: Grumpmeister on May 13, 2015, 02:12:52 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32725167 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32725167)
Post by: apc2010 on May 13, 2015, 04:00:53 PM
This could get interesting, police are investigating allegations of electoral fraud in Thanet... rubschin:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32725167 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32725167)
rubschin:
Post by: Steve on May 13, 2015, 07:16:58 PM
This could get interesting, police are investigating allegations of electoral fraud in Thanet... rubschin:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32725167 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32725167)
rubschin:
Yes it says "'No electoral fraud' in Nigel Farage-contested Thanet South seat"
Leaving Nigel to explain how come he didn't get elected but his local councillors did.
Post by: apc2010 on May 13, 2015, 07:51:37 PM
This could get interesting, police are investigating allegations of electoral fraud in Thanet... rubschin:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32725167 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32725167)
rubschin:
Yes it says "'No electoral fraud' in Nigel Farage-contested Thanet South seat"
Leaving Nigel to explain how come he didn't get elected but his local councillors did.
The article has changed....
Post by: Barman on May 13, 2015, 07:52:40 PM
This could get interesting, police are investigating allegations of electoral fraud in Thanet... rubschin:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32725167 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32725167)
rubschin:
Yes it says "'No electoral fraud' in Nigel Farage-contested Thanet South seat"
Leaving Nigel to explain how come he didn't get elected but his local councillors did.
I'm not a great one for conspiracies but...
- It did take forever for the result to come through.
- The police investigation into the 'electoral fraud' was completed in about 5 mins
Really, from the start of the investigation to the completion there was hardly time to eat a doughnut or dismiss an allegation of sexual abuse by an 'Asian'.... noooo:
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Post by: Steve on May 14, 2015, 08:51:24 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32732129 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-32732129)
"Nigel Farage has become a "snarling, thin-skinned, aggressive" man, UKIP's election campaign chief has said in a powerful attack on the party leader."
eeek:
Post by: Uncle Mort on May 14, 2015, 05:04:36 PM
Post by: Steve on June 18, 2015, 08:56:22 PM
Looks like UKIP are coming apart at the seams.Even more now
Suzanne Evans faces the sack (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33190940)
2014 seems so long ago now
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 19, 2015, 07:41:31 AM
Looks like UKIP are coming apart at the seams.Even more now
Suzanne Evans faces the sack (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33190940)
2014 seems so long ago now
Is it a woman? I always assumed she was their token transvestite. Shrugs:
Post by: Grumpmeister on June 19, 2015, 09:15:03 PM
Looks like UKIP are coming apart at the seams.Even more now
Suzanne Evans faces the sack (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33190940)
2014 seems so long ago now
Looks like there could be more to this story than meets the eye, whether its a case of BBC bias or UKIP damage control is anyone's guess. rubschin:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/585550/Suzanne-Evans-Ukip-sacked-Nigel-Farage-very-divisive (http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/585550/Suzanne-Evans-Ukip-sacked-Nigel-Farage-very-divisive)
Post by: Steve on June 19, 2015, 10:03:09 PM
Looks like UKIP are coming apart at the seams.Even more now
Suzanne Evans faces the sack (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33190940)
2014 seems so long ago now
Looks like there could be more to this story than meets the eye, whether its a case of BBC bias or UKIP damage control is anyone's guess. rubschin:
http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/585550/Suzanne-Evans-Ukip-sacked-Nigel-Farage-very-divisive (http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/585550/Suzanne-Evans-Ukip-sacked-Nigel-Farage-very-divisive)
The Beeb has that too http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33202900 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-33202900)
It really is getting beyond tragic the mess they are creating for themselves. UKIP admit the email is genuine but now say it should not have been released. Well no shit Sherlock. Now see if they can explain how it came to be written
Post by: Barman on July 08, 2015, 09:55:31 AM
Oh wow! What a brilliant speech!!! eeek:
happ096
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 08, 2015, 10:03:29 AM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ai43B588_co" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Oh wow! What a brilliant speech!!! eeek:
happ096
happ096 Indeed.
Post by: Miss Adventure on July 08, 2015, 02:50:46 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ai43B588_co" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Oh wow! What a brilliant speech!!! eeek:
happ096
happ096 Indeed.
Fab :thumbsup:- if only they would listen
Post by: Nick on July 08, 2015, 02:52:11 PM
Post by: apc2010 on July 08, 2015, 06:29:55 PM
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/ai43B588_co" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
Oh wow! What a brilliant speech!!! eeek:
happ096
happ096 Indeed.
Fab :thumbsup:- if only they would listen
Miss A returns.... cloud9:
Post by: Steve on July 08, 2015, 07:47:29 PM
Post by: Steve on July 09, 2015, 10:39:57 PM
Car crash TV
Post by: Barman on July 10, 2015, 06:25:24 AM
And right now in a darkened room Nigel has just watched Question Time and the appalling performance by his White Dee look and sound and think like MEP Louise Bours and gone facepalm: facepalm: facepalm:
Car crash TV
Oooh, I'll have to watch that! rubschin:
To be fair, you do have a rather one-sided view of the party.... ;D
Post by: Steve on July 10, 2015, 08:13:00 AM
Well we both have although I quite admire Carswell and both Farage and Evans are good speakers.And right now in a darkened room Nigel has just watched Question Time and the appalling performance by his White Dee look and sound and think like MEP Louise Bours and gone facepalm: facepalm: facepalm:
Car crash TV
Oooh, I'll have to watch that! rubschin:
To be fair, you do have a rather one-sided view of the party.... ;D
Anyway have a watch and I bet you will be facepalm: at times
Post by: Barman on July 10, 2015, 08:30:25 AM
Well we both have although I quite admire Carswell and both Farage and Evans are good speakers.And right now in a darkened room Nigel has just watched Question Time and the appalling performance by his White Dee look and sound and think like MEP Louise Bours and gone facepalm: facepalm: facepalm:
Car crash TV
Oooh, I'll have to watch that! rubschin:
To be fair, you do have a rather one-sided view of the party.... ;D
Anyway have a watch and I bet you will be facepalm: at times
;D
It isn't on YouTube yet.... evil: evil:
Post by: Steve on July 10, 2015, 09:01:31 AM
Post by: Barman on July 10, 2015, 09:29:46 AM
I thought you used IP trickery to watch it on iPlayer
Nah... Can watch live on FilmOn but I don't have a proxy to watch iPlayer any more...
Post by: Steve on July 11, 2015, 04:31:34 PM
Well we both have although I quite admire Carswell and both Farage and Evans are good speakers.And right now in a darkened room Nigel has just watched Question Time and the appalling performance by his White Dee look and sound and think like MEP Louise Bours and gone facepalm: facepalm: facepalm:
Car crash TV
Oooh, I'll have to watch that! rubschin:
To be fair, you do have a rather one-sided view of the party.... ;D
Anyway have a watch and I bet you will be facepalm: at times
;D
It isn't on YouTube yet.... evil: evil:
Is now
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLEGSG2Ajq8#)
You can almost see Dimbleby looking for gaffer tape as nothing else will shut her up from incessantly talking over everybody behaving like the noisy fat kid on the bus
And what did she actually achieve? Made Chuka look good
Post by: Barman on July 12, 2015, 04:32:20 PM
Well we both have although I quite admire Carswell and both Farage and Evans are good speakers.And right now in a darkened room Nigel has just watched Question Time and the appalling performance by his White Dee look and sound and think like MEP Louise Bours and gone facepalm: facepalm: facepalm:
Car crash TV
Oooh, I'll have to watch that! rubschin:
To be fair, you do have a rather one-sided view of the party.... ;D
Anyway have a watch and I bet you will be facepalm: at times
;D
It isn't on YouTube yet.... evil: evil:
Is now
! No longer available (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLEGSG2Ajq8#)
You can almost see Dimbleby looking for gaffer tape as nothing else will shut her up from incessantly talking over everybody behaving like the noisy fat kid on the bus
And what did she actually achieve? Made Chuka look good
We must have watched different shows! ;D
I thought she did really well.... given the socialist audience (and panel) I thought she got her points over well and scored with the audience - which is what it is obviously all about...
I found the rest of the panel nauseating... Chuka presents himself well and comes across as a professional but he is vacuous... I can't bear to listen to him for more than a few minutes - It has taken me all day to get through the show in easily digestible bits...
Again, we will have to agree to differ - I thought she was a clear winner.
Post by: Steve on July 12, 2015, 04:37:57 PM
And yes apart from Chuka the rest of the panel was bad
Post by: Barman on July 12, 2015, 05:04:52 PM
Did you not think her compulsive need to bellow preprepared phrases loudly over everybody else betrayed that she was (a) grossly uncouth and (b) frightened of real debate?
And yes apart from Chuka the rest of the panel was bad
Nope. I didn't think that at all...
And she was actually silent for the greater part of the show (IMHO)...
Faced with an audience baying for rent controls and taxing 'the bankers'... I thought she did remarkably well... lol:
Post by: Barman on October 07, 2015, 03:35:10 PM
Post by: Steve on October 07, 2015, 03:43:53 PM
Thought this was going to be something to do with the one on HIGNFY where he was caught inviting a woman up to his Lazarus Suite rooms
Post by: Nick on October 07, 2015, 03:46:40 PM
Post by: Barman on October 07, 2015, 03:53:28 PM
Nigel nails it again video. rubschin:
Thought this was going to be something to do with the one on HIGNFY where he was caught inviting a woman up to his Lazarus Suite rooms
You thought wrong! lol:
Post by: beerhead on October 09, 2015, 11:14:59 AM
Post by: Barman on October 09, 2015, 12:51:42 PM
I have to agree with every word he said, even though I am not fan of UKIP. I actually voted for the EEC as an economic community. That still makes sense. But not a corrupt and unaccountable federal europe stroke fourth reich. Germany needs imported labour because of its very low birth rate.
Why is that...? German birds are top notch in my experience.... rubschin:
Post by: Steve on October 09, 2015, 01:15:20 PM
:thumbsup:I have to agree with every word he said, even though I am not fan of UKIP. I actually voted for the EEC as an economic community. That still makes sense. But not a corrupt and unaccountable federal europe stroke fourth reich. Germany needs imported labour because of its very low birth rate.
Why is that...? German birds are top notch in my experience.... rubschin:
Maybe they have a large number of brewers drooped fat ugly blokes who couldn't even get a shag off a tart.
Post by: Grumpmeister on January 15, 2016, 02:04:06 AM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3400234/Fears-EU-deal-offer-Merkel-curb-migrant-benefits-Nonsense-plans-poorest-Britons-banned-receiving-tax-credits.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3400234/Fears-EU-deal-offer-Merkel-curb-migrant-benefits-Nonsense-plans-poorest-Britons-banned-receiving-tax-credits.html)
Post by: Steve on March 23, 2016, 10:46:18 PM
Suzanne Evans suspended from UKIP (http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/23/ukip-suzanne-evans-suspended-disloyalty-nigel-farage)
Apparently it's a ruse to ensure she doesn't get a role on the London Assembly. A simpler plan would be just to not vote UKIP. Her ability to talk sense was one of the few good things about that party
Now what's the betting they'll soon lose their one MP?
Post by: apc2010 on July 04, 2016, 09:16:47 AM
Post by: Barman on July 04, 2016, 09:20:04 AM
Post by: Steve on July 04, 2016, 09:32:53 AM
Would we have had a referendum without Nigel? We'll never know. He peaked spectacularly in 2014 which helped force that manifesto promise by Cameron so it's arguable
Hard to see a big role for UKIP now anyway so probably wise for him to step down but what will he do now? Doing the maths bit on Countdown is so not his forte.
Post by: Barman on July 04, 2016, 10:15:26 AM
And this time he promises he won't change his mind just like last time he promised he wouldn't change his mind.
Would we have had a referendum without Nigel? We'll never know. He peaked spectacularly in 2014 which helped force that manifesto promise by Cameron so it's arguable
Hard to see a big role for UKIP now anyway so probably wise for him to step down but what will he do now? Doing the maths bit on Countdown is so not his forte.
Oh, I doubt if we've seen the last of Nigel - or UKIP for that matter... ;)
Post by: Steve on July 04, 2016, 10:22:21 AM
That '52:48 requires a second referendum' comment he made was going to be awkward for him over the next months and it's hard to escape the conclusion his timing is cynically designed to frustrate Suzanne Evans who is still suspended
Post by: apc2010 on July 04, 2016, 11:46:25 AM
And this time he promises he won't change his mind just like last time he promised he wouldn't change his mind.
Would we have had a referendum without Nigel? We'll never know. He peaked spectacularly in 2014 which helped force that manifesto promise by Cameron so it's arguable
Hard to see a big role for UKIP now anyway so probably wise for him to step down but what will he do now? Doing the maths bit on Countdown is so not his forte.
Oh, I doubt if we've seen the last of Nigel - or UKIP for that matter... ;)
A chat show........ Thumbs:
Post by: Steve on July 04, 2016, 12:28:32 PM
And this time he promises he won't change his mind just like last time he promised he wouldn't change his mind.
Would we have had a referendum without Nigel? We'll never know. He peaked spectacularly in 2014 which helped force that manifesto promise by Cameron so it's arguable
Hard to see a big role for UKIP now anyway so probably wise for him to step down but what will he do now? Doing the maths bit on Countdown is so not his forte.
Oh, I doubt if we've seen the last of Nigel - or UKIP for that matter... ;)
A chat show........ Thumbs:
And his first guest? Hopefully the soon out of work Jean Claude Juncker (if Merkel gets her way)
Post by: Barman on July 04, 2016, 12:35:13 PM
And this time he promises he won't change his mind just like last time he promised he wouldn't change his mind.
Would we have had a referendum without Nigel? We'll never know. He peaked spectacularly in 2014 which helped force that manifesto promise by Cameron so it's arguable
Hard to see a big role for UKIP now anyway so probably wise for him to step down but what will he do now? Doing the maths bit on Countdown is so not his forte.
Oh, I doubt if we've seen the last of Nigel - or UKIP for that matter... ;)
A chat show........ Thumbs:
And his first guest? Hopefully the soon out of work Jean Claude Juncker (if Merkel gets her way)
Oooh, I'd pay to see that! ;D
Post by: Steve on July 04, 2016, 12:43:18 PM
And this time he promises he won't change his mind just like last time he promised he wouldn't change his mind.
Would we have had a referendum without Nigel? We'll never know. He peaked spectacularly in 2014 which helped force that manifesto promise by Cameron so it's arguable
Hard to see a big role for UKIP now anyway so probably wise for him to step down but what will he do now? Doing the maths bit on Countdown is so not his forte.
Oh, I doubt if we've seen the last of Nigel - or UKIP for that matter... ;)
A chat show........ Thumbs:
And his first guest? Hopefully the soon out of work Jean Claude Juncker (if Merkel gets her way)
Oooh, I'd pay to see that! ;D
"Tell me Jean Claude what was it about the fat salaried, pompously titled role in Brussels that first attracted you to it?"
Post by: Barman on July 04, 2016, 12:50:22 PM
And this time he promises he won't change his mind just like last time he promised he wouldn't change his mind.
Would we have had a referendum without Nigel? We'll never know. He peaked spectacularly in 2014 which helped force that manifesto promise by Cameron so it's arguable
Hard to see a big role for UKIP now anyway so probably wise for him to step down but what will he do now? Doing the maths bit on Countdown is so not his forte.
Oh, I doubt if we've seen the last of Nigel - or UKIP for that matter... ;)
A chat show........ Thumbs:
And his first guest? Hopefully the soon out of work Jean Claude Juncker (if Merkel gets her way)
Oooh, I'd pay to see that! ;D
"Tell me Jean Claude what was it about the fat salaried, pompously titled role in Brussels that first attracted you to it?"
lol: lol: lol:
Post by: apc2010 on July 04, 2016, 01:23:57 PM
And this time he promises he won't change his mind just like last time he promised he wouldn't change his mind.
Would we have had a referendum without Nigel? We'll never know. He peaked spectacularly in 2014 which helped force that manifesto promise by Cameron so it's arguable
Hard to see a big role for UKIP now anyway so probably wise for him to step down but what will he do now? Doing the maths bit on Countdown is so not his forte.
Oh, I doubt if we've seen the last of Nigel - or UKIP for that matter... ;)
A chat show........ Thumbs:
And his first guest? Hopefully the soon out of work Jean Claude Juncker (if Merkel gets her way)
Oooh, I'd pay to see that! ;D
"Tell me Jean Claude what was it about the fat salaried, pompously titled role in Brussels that first attracted you to it?"
;D ;D ;D ;D
Post by: The Moan Ranger on July 04, 2016, 04:27:37 PM
Post by: Barman on July 04, 2016, 04:30:49 PM
He's probably the only politician in my life time (I am young, remember) who has acheived what he set out to do. And I bought him a beer when BM was a gibbering drunken wreck whistle:
Feck off, I paid for the beer! cussing:
Post by: The Moan Ranger on July 04, 2016, 04:38:47 PM
He's probably the only politician in my life time (I am young, remember) who has acheived what he set out to do. And I bought him a beer when BM was a gibbering drunken wreck whistle:
Feck off, I paid for the beer! cussing:
When you start believing your own lies, then you are truly a politician noooo:
Post by: Barman on July 04, 2016, 04:54:06 PM
He's probably the only politician in my life time (I am young, remember) who has acheived what he set out to do. And I bought him a beer when BM was a gibbering drunken wreck whistle:
Feck off, I paid for the beer! cussing:
When you start believing your own lies, then you are truly a politician noooo:
Bastard! cussing:
Post by: The Moan Ranger on July 04, 2016, 04:56:18 PM
He's probably the only politician in my life time (I am young, remember) who has acheived what he set out to do. And I bought him a beer when BM was a gibbering drunken wreck whistle:
Feck off, I paid for the beer! cussing:
When you start believing your own lies, then you are truly a politician noooo:
Bastard! cussing:
pathead: You and Nick tonight. Feel like a "Help the Aged" worker... noooo:
Post by: Barman on July 04, 2016, 04:59:57 PM
He's probably the only politician in my life time (I am young, remember) who has acheived what he set out to do. And I bought him a beer when BM was a gibbering drunken wreck whistle:
Feck off, I paid for the beer! cussing:
When you start believing your own lies, then you are truly a politician noooo:
Bastard! cussing:
pathead: You and Nick tonight. Feel like a "Help the Aged" worker... noooo:
evil:
Did you pay for any beer that day...? rubschin:
Post by: The Moan Ranger on July 04, 2016, 05:40:41 PM
He's probably the only politician in my life time (I am young, remember) who has acheived what he set out to do. And I bought him a beer when BM was a gibbering drunken wreck whistle:
Feck off, I paid for the beer! cussing:
When you start believing your own lies, then you are truly a politician noooo:
Bastard! cussing:
pathead: You and Nick tonight. Feel like a "Help the Aged" worker... noooo:
evil:
Did you pay for any beer that day...? rubschin:
You polished off more Spitfires than the Luftwaffe, mainly at my expense noooo:
Post by: Barman on July 04, 2016, 05:47:18 PM
He's probably the only politician in my life time (I am young, remember) who has acheived what he set out to do. And I bought him a beer when BM was a gibbering drunken wreck whistle:
Feck off, I paid for the beer! cussing:
When you start believing your own lies, then you are truly a politician noooo:
Bastard! cussing:
pathead: You and Nick tonight. Feel like a "Help the Aged" worker... noooo:
evil:
Did you pay for any beer that day...? rubschin:
You polished off more Spitfires than the Luftwaffe, mainly at my expense noooo:
i seem to remember that your short stature was matched by your short arms and incredibly deep pockets... evil:
Are you related to Apey...? rubschin:
Post by: Grumpmeister on October 04, 2017, 03:32:01 AM
http://youtu.be/hcxcrxslnYk (http://youtu.be/hcxcrxslnYk)
Post by: Barman on October 04, 2017, 03:40:56 AM
He's not pulling any punches laying into Junker about the police response to the Catalan independence referendum
http://youtu.be/hcxcrxslnYk (http://youtu.be/hcxcrxslnYk)
happ096
Post by: Steve on October 04, 2017, 03:15:27 PM
Juncker is an arse. Put out a statement saying the issue is for Spain to deal with as an internal matter and then in the very same statement makes contentious pronouncements about it.He's not pulling any punches laying into Junker about the police response to the Catalan independence referendum
http://youtu.be/hcxcrxslnYk (http://youtu.be/hcxcrxslnYk)
happ096
Post by: Grumpmeister on May 09, 2019, 05:35:53 PM
Post by: Steve on May 09, 2019, 05:46:30 PM
Sounds like Question Time could be interesting tonight, Nigel vs Soubry and Rudd rubschin:Interesting maybe but you need a top class act to show Farage up for what he is and neither of those two has ever shown such mettle
Might be interesting if he tries to bamboozle Bruce, she's got a tough streak in her
Post by: Steve on May 10, 2019, 10:25:25 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-48222583/brexit-debate-heats-up-on-question-time (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-48222583/brexit-debate-heats-up-on-question-time)
Post by: Barman on May 10, 2019, 10:43:36 AM
Can't be arsed to watch the whole programme but from this snippet seems Nigel didn't exactly dominate
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-48222583/brexit-debate-heats-up-on-question-time (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-48222583/brexit-debate-heats-up-on-question-time)
I'm sure the segments that the BBC chose from the show are completely unbiased and representative... lol:
I'll watch the whole thing laters and let you know. ;)
Post by: Steve on May 10, 2019, 10:52:58 AM
yes pleaseCan't be arsed to watch the whole programme but from this snippet seems Nigel didn't exactly dominate
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-48222583/brexit-debate-heats-up-on-question-time (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-48222583/brexit-debate-heats-up-on-question-time)
I'm sure the segments that the BBC chose from the show are completely unbiased and representative... lol:
I'll watch the whole thing laters and let you know. ;)
Post by: Barman on May 10, 2019, 10:56:04 AM
yes pleaseCan't be arsed to watch the whole programme but from this snippet seems Nigel didn't exactly dominate
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-48222583/brexit-debate-heats-up-on-question-time (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-48222583/brexit-debate-heats-up-on-question-time)
I'm sure the segments that the BBC chose from the show are completely unbiased and representative... lol:
I'll watch the whole thing laters and let you know. ;)
:thumbsup:
Post by: Nick on May 10, 2019, 05:38:38 PM
Post by: Barman on May 10, 2019, 05:54:50 PM
I have concluded that he is a narcissistic hypocrite. His performance on QT last night was shocking. It is all about him (and his kids with German passports). He deserves a good kicking at the EU elections.He does very nicely out of the EU and what is his pension? The man is a twat masquerading as a beer and fags man of the people.
I likes him! :thumbsup:
And I reckon he'll be doing the kicking at the EU elections... ;)
Post by: Barman on May 10, 2019, 05:56:35 PM
I have concluded that he is a narcissistic hypocrite. His performance on QT last night was shocking. It is all about him (and his kids with German passports). He deserves a good kicking at the EU elections.He does very nicely out of the EU and what is his pension? The man is a twat masquerading as a beer and fags man of the people.
PS I haven't watched the whole thing yet but the audience certainly seemed to like at least some of what he had to say...
Post by: Steve on May 10, 2019, 07:35:48 PM
I have concluded that he is a narcissistic hypocrite. His performance on QT last night was shocking. It is all about him (and his kids with German passports). He deserves a good kicking at the EU elections.He does very nicely out of the EU and what is his pension? The man is a twat masquerading as a beer and fags man of the people.Yep
I have to say he's a good speaker, definitely a leader and I'll give him some credit for trying to rid UKIP of its worst bigots
But he's also a disingenuous sometimes lying little shit that ultimately cares about himself first, next and last and not those millions of people that are so owned by him
Post by: Barman on May 10, 2019, 08:06:52 PM
I have concluded that he is a narcissistic hypocrite. His performance on QT last night was shocking. It is all about him (and his kids with German passports). He deserves a good kicking at the EU elections.He does very nicely out of the EU and what is his pension? The man is a twat masquerading as a beer and fags man of the people.Yep
I have to say he's a good speaker, definitely a leader and I'll give him some credit for trying to rid UKIP of its worst bigots
But he's also a disingenuous sometimes lying little shit that ultimately cares about himself first, next and last and not those millions of people that are so owned by him
Quote a lie...?
Post by: Steve on May 10, 2019, 09:00:14 PM
I have concluded that he is a narcissistic hypocrite. His performance on QT last night was shocking. It is all about him (and his kids with German passports). He deserves a good kicking at the EU elections.He does very nicely out of the EU and what is his pension? The man is a twat masquerading as a beer and fags man of the people.Yep
I have to say he's a good speaker, definitely a leader and I'll give him some credit for trying to rid UKIP of its worst bigots
But he's also a disingenuous sometimes lying little shit that ultimately cares about himself first, next and last and not those millions of people that are so owned by him
Quote a lie...?
Let's start with: "EU membership costs £55m a day"
or there's ""There is nothing we can do to stop unlimited numbers of people from EU countries settling in this country and enjoying the same rights and privileges as all the rest of us."
or ""Since the Treaty of Maastricht we have been citizens of the EU and this passport is available to 580million people."
or that poster (https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/AED0/production/_90025744_033583881-1.jpg)
or “That same boss of Europol said that the [EU’s] migration policy… has led to up to 5,000 jihadis coming into the European Union in the space of the last 15 months.”
or "Here's a fact…there are 7,000 diagnoses in this country every year of people that are HIV positive… 60% of them are not British nationals"
or “You’ve got 50,000 Welsh patients, who because your cancer care provisions are so poor, actually went to England.”
or "508 million people… if they wish, can come to this country. We have no control. The only way we get control is to vote to leave the European Union”
it's what he does
Post by: Barman on May 11, 2019, 04:01:33 AM
I have concluded that he is a narcissistic hypocrite. His performance on QT last night was shocking. It is all about him (and his kids with German passports). He deserves a good kicking at the EU elections.He does very nicely out of the EU and what is his pension? The man is a twat masquerading as a beer and fags man of the people.Yep
I have to say he's a good speaker, definitely a leader and I'll give him some credit for trying to rid UKIP of its worst bigots
But he's also a disingenuous sometimes lying little shit that ultimately cares about himself first, next and last and not those millions of people that are so owned by him
Quote a lie...?
Let's start with: "EU membership costs £55m a day"
or there's ""There is nothing we can do to stop unlimited numbers of people from EU countries settling in this country and enjoying the same rights and privileges as all the rest of us."
or ""Since the Treaty of Maastricht we have been citizens of the EU and this passport is available to 580million people."
or that poster (https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/AED0/production/_90025744_033583881-1.jpg)
or “That same boss of Europol said that the [EU’s] migration policy… has led to up to 5,000 jihadis coming into the European Union in the space of the last 15 months.”
or "Here's a fact…there are 7,000 diagnoses in this country every year of people that are HIV positive… 60% of them are not British nationals"
or “You’ve got 50,000 Welsh patients, who because your cancer care provisions are so poor, actually went to England.”
or "508 million people… if they wish, can come to this country. We have no control. The only way we get control is to vote to leave the European Union”
it's what he does
lol:
Now prove you are fair and balanced by listing the 'lies' told by the other side... Popcorn:
Post by: Steve on May 11, 2019, 07:48:05 AM
So why don’t you have a go
Post by: Barman on May 11, 2019, 10:26:32 AM
Well there’s the thing. Every time this comes up of forums various no one can find any that stand up to even mild tyre kicking
So why don’t you have a go
See, there is your problem right there!
Nigel is a ‘liar’ but everything everybody on the remain side has said is perfectly acceptable and doesn’t even stand up to ‘a mild tyre kicking’…
You don’t think that might be a slightly biased view of things…? How about, “we’ll respect the referendum result” for starters…? Or, “There will be no EU Army”…?
And sure, I’m biased too in the opposite direction. But do I think everything said by Leavers was 100% true and verifiable? No, of course not.
Politicians lie, it is a way of life to them, second nature. Everybody knows that surely? At every campaign, be it Local election, National or the Referendum you have to listen to the lies and exaggeration and decide which set of promises are most plausible or deliverable - often which set you like the least.
It shouldn’t be like that but it is – and not just in the UK either, it is a world-wide phenomena. Didn’t Labour even go to court to prove that their election manifesto wasn’t a commitment do actually do anything that was written in it…?
So in that context is Nigel any more of a ‘liar’ than the rest of them?
Take your list. It would be pointless to go through it but at the very top you have, "EU membership costs £55m a day". Okay, so perhaps that is too high. Perhaps it is the gross figure but the correct figure isn’t ‘zero’ and is in the tens of millions of Pounds. And isn’t a fixed amount and is likely to grow in the future. So is that really a ‘lie’ worth calling out and beyond anything anybody on the Remain side said…?
Post by: Steve on May 11, 2019, 10:56:00 AM
It's what he does unlike most politicians
Still waiting for those supposed remain campaign lies you mentioned. Let me help you. The two supposed ones usually mentioned are:
a) the emergency budget: but we got one, just a different one because the Tory back benchers made it clear they'd block the Osborne plan. people still lost out though as devaluation caused prices to outstrip wages
b) the £4.300 per household. But it was a forecast for 2030 and a forecast David Davis was eventually forced to admit his redone analyses came up with the same ball park figure. And so he tried to bury them and lied about them. Unluckily for him there is that thing called Buzzfeed
Post by: Barman on May 11, 2019, 11:03:54 AM
It wasn't ever even the gross figure. It was possibly an original schoolboy error down in the depths of what passes for UKIP research but Farage continued to use it long after he knew it was woefully false. And what is a false statement knowingly made? https://fullfact.org/economy/our-eu-membership-fee-55-million/
It's what he does unlike most politicians
Still waiting for those supposed remain campaign lies you mentioned. Let me help you. The two supposed ones usually mentioned are:
a) the emergency budget: but we got one, just a different one because the Tory back benchers made it clear they'd block the Osborne plan. people still lost out though as devaluation caused prices to outstrip wages
b) the £4.300 per household. But it was a forecast for 2030 and a forecast David Davis was eventually forced to admit his redone analyses came up with the same ball park figure. And so he tried to bury them and lied about them. Unluckily for him there is that thing called Buzzfeed
So it is actually £35M per day according to your link...? ::)
And that is an outrageous lie unlike any told 'by most politicians'...? lol:
Yarp. See, there really is no point discussing this with you is there...? noooo:
Post by: Steve on May 11, 2019, 12:17:50 PM
But ask yourself why did the supposed saintly Nigel keep saying all those headline grabbing false figures?
Post by: Barman on May 11, 2019, 12:50:00 PM
Tell you what you lend me £55 and I'll pay you back £35 and see if you think that's fair. The true figure when you look at grants we're bound to replicate is nearer £30 a day.
But ask yourself why did the supposed saintly Nigel keep saying all those headline grabbing false figures?
That is actually a very good analogy for the way the EU works isn’t it…?
We’re committed to paying them billions every year but they very kindly let us off a bit of it (for now) and generously spend a bit of it back in the UK.
It is rather like a mugger stealing your wallet then giving you a fiver out of it for the taxi home!
And why did he keep repeating it? The reason is simple isn’t it?
Every single time Nigel said, “We send £55M a day to the EU”, all the Remainers all piped-up and said, “Oh no we don’t, it is only £30M per day!”
But the British public (well millions of them anyway) didn’t say, “Oh only £30M? That is okay then, thanks for the taxi fare home”.
They said, “£30M? Fuck me, that is a vast amount of cash! That would be better spent in the UK!”
Rather clever really… lol:
Post by: Steve on May 11, 2019, 01:18:07 PM
Oh yes we know exactly why he pursued that dishonestyTell you what you lend me £55 and I'll pay you back £35 and see if you think that's fair. The true figure when you look at grants we're bound to replicate is nearer £30 a day.
But ask yourself why did the supposed saintly Nigel keep saying all those headline grabbing false figures?
That is actually a very good analogy for the way the EU works isn’t it…?
We’re committed to paying them billions every year but they very kindly let us off a bit of it (for now) and generously spend a bit of it back in the UK.
It is rather like a mugger stealing your wallet then giving you a fiver out of it for the taxi home!
And why did he keep repeating it? The reason is simple isn’t it?
Every single time Nigel said, “We send £55M a day to the EU”, all the Remainers all piped-up and said, “Oh no we don’t, it is only £30M per day!”
But the British public (well millions of them anyway) didn’t say, “Oh only £30M? That is okay then, thanks for the taxi fare home”.
They said, “£30M? Fuck me, that is a vast amount of cash! That would be better spent in the UK!”
Rather clever really… lol:
But thanks for confrming he is exactly how I described him
Post by: Barman on May 11, 2019, 01:32:09 PM
Oh yes we know exactly why he pursued that dishonestyTell you what you lend me £55 and I'll pay you back £35 and see if you think that's fair. The true figure when you look at grants we're bound to replicate is nearer £30 a day.
But ask yourself why did the supposed saintly Nigel keep saying all those headline grabbing false figures?
That is actually a very good analogy for the way the EU works isn’t it…?
We’re committed to paying them billions every year but they very kindly let us off a bit of it (for now) and generously spend a bit of it back in the UK.
It is rather like a mugger stealing your wallet then giving you a fiver out of it for the taxi home!
And why did he keep repeating it? The reason is simple isn’t it?
Every single time Nigel said, “We send £55M a day to the EU”, all the Remainers all piped-up and said, “Oh no we don’t, it is only £30M per day!”
But the British public (well millions of them anyway) didn’t say, “Oh only £30M? That is okay then, thanks for the taxi fare home”.
They said, “£30M? Fuck me, that is a vast amount of cash! That would be better spent in the UK!”
Rather clever really… lol:
But thanks for confrming he is exactly how I described him
Happy to help Steve! :thumbsup:
Post by: Steve on May 11, 2019, 05:14:33 PM
Stupid fucker has selected a child pornography defender as one of his Brexit party candidates facepalm:
https://www.facebook.com/TELEGRAPH.CO.UK/posts/controversial-brexit-party-candidate-claire-fox-argues-the-government-shouldnt-b/10157868484034749/ (https://www.facebook.com/TELEGRAPH.CO.UK/posts/controversial-brexit-party-candidate-claire-fox-argues-the-government-shouldnt-b/10157868484034749/)
Post by: Barman on May 11, 2019, 07:08:23 PM
Awkward moment for Nigel and those that think he's right on the ball
Stupid fucker has selected a child pornography defender as one of his Brexit party candidates facepalm:
https://www.facebook.com/TELEGRAPH.CO.UK/posts/controversial-brexit-party-candidate-claire-fox-argues-the-government-shouldnt-b/10157868484034749/ (https://www.facebook.com/TELEGRAPH.CO.UK/posts/controversial-brexit-party-candidate-claire-fox-argues-the-government-shouldnt-b/10157868484034749/)
Yarp. Bizarre that no other party has made bad candidate choices... That nasty Nigel eh...? ::)
Post by: Steve on May 11, 2019, 07:20:31 PM
Oh no you're wrong, UKIP have a candidate that thinks making rape threats is just funnyAwkward moment for Nigel and those that think he's right on the ballYarp. Bizarre that no other party has made bad candidate choices... That nasty Nigel eh...? ::)
Stupid fucker has selected a child pornography defender as one of his Brexit party candidates facepalm:
https://www.facebook.com/TELEGRAPH.CO.UK/posts/controversial-brexit-party-candidate-claire-fox-argues-the-government-shouldnt-b/10157868484034749/ (https://www.facebook.com/TELEGRAPH.CO.UK/posts/controversial-brexit-party-candidate-claire-fox-argues-the-government-shouldnt-b/10157868484034749/)
Post by: Barman on May 11, 2019, 07:28:50 PM
Oh no you're wrong, UKIP have a candidate that thinks making rape threats is just funnyAwkward moment for Nigel and those that think he's right on the ballYarp. Bizarre that no other party has made bad candidate choices... That nasty Nigel eh...? ::)
Stupid fucker has selected a child pornography defender as one of his Brexit party candidates facepalm:
https://www.facebook.com/TELEGRAPH.CO.UK/posts/controversial-brexit-party-candidate-claire-fox-argues-the-government-shouldnt-b/10157868484034749/ (https://www.facebook.com/TELEGRAPH.CO.UK/posts/controversial-brexit-party-candidate-claire-fox-argues-the-government-shouldnt-b/10157868484034749/)
Oh yes of course. I should have said no other party apart from Nigel and UKIP has made bad candidate choices... ::)
You make I larf Steve, you really do! happy001
Post by: Barman on May 11, 2019, 07:34:16 PM
Awkward moment for Nigel and those that think he's right on the ball
Stupid fucker has selected a child pornography defender as one of his Brexit party candidates facepalm:
https://www.facebook.com/TELEGRAPH.CO.UK/posts/controversial-brexit-party-candidate-claire-fox-argues-the-government-shouldnt-b/10157868484034749/ (https://www.facebook.com/TELEGRAPH.CO.UK/posts/controversial-brexit-party-candidate-claire-fox-argues-the-government-shouldnt-b/10157868484034749/)
Looks like Nigel's poor candidate choices has had devastating consequences for their showing in the polls! eeek:
BREXIT PARTY TAKE 13 POINT LEAD (https://order-order.com/2019/05/11/brexit-party-take-13-point-lead/)
Post by: Steve on May 11, 2019, 07:43:01 PM
down to 26% in latest pollAwkward moment for Nigel and those that think he's right on the ball
Stupid fucker has selected a child pornography defender as one of his Brexit party candidates facepalm:
https://www.facebook.com/TELEGRAPH.CO.UK/posts/controversial-brexit-party-candidate-claire-fox-argues-the-government-shouldnt-b/10157868484034749/ (https://www.facebook.com/TELEGRAPH.CO.UK/posts/controversial-brexit-party-candidate-claire-fox-argues-the-government-shouldnt-b/10157868484034749/)
Looks like Nigel's poor candidate choices has had devastating consequences for their showing in the polls! eeek:
BREXIT PARTY TAKE 13 POINT LEAD (https://order-order.com/2019/05/11/brexit-party-take-13-point-lead/)
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/2019-european-parliament-election-vote-intention/ (https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/2019-european-parliament-election-vote-intention/)
Post by: Steve on May 11, 2019, 07:43:41 PM
So which other parties endorse child porn and rape?Oh no you're wrong, UKIP have a candidate that thinks making rape threats is just funnyAwkward moment for Nigel and those that think he's right on the ballYarp. Bizarre that no other party has made bad candidate choices... That nasty Nigel eh...? ::)
Stupid fucker has selected a child pornography defender as one of his Brexit party candidates facepalm:
https://www.facebook.com/TELEGRAPH.CO.UK/posts/controversial-brexit-party-candidate-claire-fox-argues-the-government-shouldnt-b/10157868484034749/ (https://www.facebook.com/TELEGRAPH.CO.UK/posts/controversial-brexit-party-candidate-claire-fox-argues-the-government-shouldnt-b/10157868484034749/)
Oh yes of course. I should have said no other party apart from Nigel and UKIP has made bad candidate choices... ::)
You make I larf Steve, you really do! happy001
Post by: Barman on May 11, 2019, 07:46:35 PM
down to 26% in latest pollAwkward moment for Nigel and those that think he's right on the ball
Stupid fucker has selected a child pornography defender as one of his Brexit party candidates facepalm:
https://www.facebook.com/TELEGRAPH.CO.UK/posts/controversial-brexit-party-candidate-claire-fox-argues-the-government-shouldnt-b/10157868484034749/ (https://www.facebook.com/TELEGRAPH.CO.UK/posts/controversial-brexit-party-candidate-claire-fox-argues-the-government-shouldnt-b/10157868484034749/)
Looks like Nigel's poor candidate choices has had devastating consequences for their showing in the polls! eeek:
BREXIT PARTY TAKE 13 POINT LEAD (https://order-order.com/2019/05/11/brexit-party-take-13-point-lead/)
https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/2019-european-parliament-election-vote-intention/ (https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/2019-european-parliament-election-vote-intention/)
Latest...?
Your link "28 March 2019 - 7 May 2019"
My link "OpiniumResearch, 08 May"
Post by: Steve on May 11, 2019, 07:59:36 PM
Post by: Barman on May 11, 2019, 08:03:33 PM
well it's a poll in the Guardian so it must be right ;)
Of course.
Post by: Steve on May 12, 2019, 09:08:47 AM
Also means the BBC will issue the transcript later today so will post it up later
Post by: Steve on May 12, 2019, 09:32:27 AM
Post by: Barman on May 12, 2019, 09:40:39 AM
He's on the Marr show in a few minutes
Also means the BBC will issue the transcript later today so will post it up later
Did it go like this...?
Quote
It is just getting worse, Marr will not ask Nigel a single question on the Brexit party Just keeps trolling his past,
And now Marr ends it not asking one single Brexit question
If so, don't bother... noooo:
Post by: Steve on May 12, 2019, 09:48:15 AM
Well I'll post it anywayHe's on the Marr show in a few minutes
Also means the BBC will issue the transcript later today so will post it up later
Did it go like this...?QuoteIt is just getting worse, Marr will not ask Nigel a single question on the Brexit party Just keeps trolling his past,
And now Marr ends it not asking one single Brexit question
If so, don't bother... noooo:
Post by: Barman on May 12, 2019, 10:33:16 AM
Sensational! happy001
Post by: Steve on May 12, 2019, 01:39:40 PM
Moans and spits dummy that Marr supposeldy didn't ask about Brexit and yet well over the first half of the interview is 100% Brexit
Top tips Nigel: don't tell lies live on camera where the record is clear and if you want to be a serious leader remember the officer's maxim 'always appear to be in control'
A shame that Marr didn't ask him about endorsing supporters of child abuse
Post by: Barman on May 12, 2019, 03:09:39 PM
There you go http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/12051902.pdf (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/12051902.pdf)
Moans and spits dummy that Marr supposeldy didn't ask about Brexit and yet well over the first half of the interview is 100% Brexit
Top tips Nigel: don't tell lies live on camera where the record is clear and if you want to be a serious leader remember the officer's maxim 'always appear to be in control'
A shame that Marr didn't ask him about endorsing supporters of child abuse
happy001
Post by: Steve on May 13, 2019, 11:30:46 AM
There you go http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/12051902.pdf (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/12051902.pdf)
. . . .
Well this is interesting https://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2019/05/andrew-marr-v-nigel-farage.html?m=1
Seems Marr and Farage were talking at cross purposes and have to say the BBC should be holding its hands up and admitting that they created the confusion
Marr effectively said Farage had never said 'no deal is better than a bad deal' during the campaign appratnely referring to no dela being better than a post Brexit deal
But Farage had said "No deal would be better than the rotten deal we have now" albeit referring to a different no deal v remaining comparison
But bad form by the BBC not issuing any post programme clarification imho
Post by: Steve on June 06, 2019, 08:40:51 AM
I'd say more likely than not
Post by: Uncle Mort on June 06, 2019, 12:05:48 PM
So is Farage's party going to win that seat in today's Peterborough by election?
I'd say more likely than not
He might steal votes from the Green Party. Top of the list of candidates:
Brexit Party - Mike Greene
rubschin:
Post by: Barman on June 06, 2019, 12:29:20 PM
So is Farage's party going to win that seat in today's Peterborough by election?
I'd say more likely than not
He might steal votes from the Green Party. Top of the list of candidates:
Brexit Party - Mike Greene
rubschin:
lol: lol: lol:
Post by: Steve on June 06, 2019, 03:54:18 PM
So is Farage's party going to win that seat in today's Peterborough by election?
I'd say more likely than not
He might steal votes from the Green Party. Top of the list of candidates:
Brexit Party - Mike Greene
rubschin:
lol: lol: lol:
Dare we ask what the Green Party candidate name is?
Or shall we just make one up?
Post by: Grumpmeister on June 06, 2019, 06:17:22 PM
So is Farage's party going to win that seat in today's Peterborough by election?
I'd say more likely than not
He might steal votes from the Green Party. Top of the list of candidates:
Brexit Party - Mike Greene
rubschin:
lol: lol: lol:
Dare we ask what the Green Party candidate name is?
Or shall we just make one up?
No point, hardly anyone will have heard of them before and nobody will remember them afterwards... noooo:
Post by: Uncle Mort on June 07, 2019, 07:03:44 AM
(https://i.imgur.com/vY78zx5.jpg)
Post by: Steve on June 07, 2019, 08:31:35 AM
A eeek: result
Post by: Barman on June 07, 2019, 08:58:33 AM
Not a bad attempt:
(https://i.imgur.com/vY78zx5.jpg)
Yes, pretty amazing really! :thumbsup:
Bit of a wake up call for Labour and the Tories you would think...?