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Come Inside... => The Commons => Topic started by: Nick on April 12, 2011, 07:59:29 PM
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OK, what is the VP view? I am agin it because so many luvvies are in favour, but I can see some advantages.
HELP
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I can see some advantages so I'm for it. It'll make bugger all difference here though Shrugs:
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No way .... the only countriea that use it are basket cases.... Anywhooo it ain't the British Way. Winner is the first past the post. No prizes for losers.
It reminds me of NuLabours schools policies. Can't have a sports day in case there are losers.
Utter rubbish.
If you make a good enough case then you get in, if you cannot convince enough people to vote for you then you don't deserve a place.
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Does it make a blind bit of difference when you look at the choices ......it's like choosing which fish to eat noooo:
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Does it make a blind bit of difference when you look at the choices ......it's like choosing which fish to eat noooo:
I eat salmon but I would never vote for the slippery bugger
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I'd also like to see a compulsory vote as part of citizenship but that's another matter whistle:
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Now that I would vote for..... 8)
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The Lib Dems seem very keen on it... a reason to avoid it like the plague I would have thought... rubschin:
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The Lib Dems seem very keen on it... a reason to avoid it like the plague I would have thought... rubschin:
The Lib Dems will support any measure they think will help them stay in Government.
Meanwhile the Tories are agin it and Labour have a leader who says Yes and 120 MPs who have said they will campaign for a No....... You will note that none of them have asked those who they represent which way they should vote.
This side of Offa's Dyke we also have to contend with a buggers muddle of a different system (part first past the post and part "selection" from party lists) on the same day which will inevitably lead to another unholy alliance in Cardiff.
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Quote from AV leaflet
If more people vote ‘yes’ than ‘no’, when will we start using the ‘alternative vote’ system?
The ‘alternative vote’ system will be used after a review of the boundaries of the area that each MP represents (known as their constituency) is completed. This is due to happen between 2011 and 2013. The review will happen regardless of the outcome of this referendum.
At the end of the review, the UK Parliament will vote on implementing the new boundaries. If the new boundaries are implemented, the ‘alternative vote’ system will be used for all future elections to the House of Commons.
The last sentence seems to imply that the referendum can be negated by a vote on new boundaries.
What is the point then?
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Quote from AV leaflet
If more people vote ‘yes’ than ‘no’, when will we start using the ‘alternative vote’ system?
The ‘alternative vote’ system will be used after a review of the boundaries of the area that each MP represents (known as their constituency) is completed. This is due to happen between 2011 and 2013. The review will happen regardless of the outcome of this referendum.
At the end of the review, the UK Parliament will vote on implementing the new boundaries. If the new boundaries are implemented, the ‘alternative vote’ system will be used for all future elections to the House of Commons.
The last sentence seems to imply that the referendum can be negated by a vote on new boundaries.
What is the point then?
Quite so...
Whoever you vote for you get the government - they make sure of that.... noooo:
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http://captainranty.blogspot.com/2011/04/turning-tables.html (http://captainranty.blogspot.com/2011/04/turning-tables.html) spider:
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It's gonna be such a great day noooo:
Predicted turnout ...one man and their dog
Alerts been put out as some kind of campaign being organised to turn up in large groups just before closing time to create mayhem ::)
Electoral Commission has ordained that no explanation is allowed to be given on the day to any voter turning up confused as to what AV is about. Not allowed to say anything. Such a helpful approach noooo:
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It's gonna be such a great day noooo:
Predicted turnout ...one man and their dog
Alerts been put out as some kind of campaign being organised to turn up in large groups just before closing time to create mayhem ::)
Electoral Commission has ordained that no explanation is allowed to be given on the day to any voter turning up confused as to what AV is about. Not allowed to say anything. Such a helpful approach noooo:
Perhaps you could explain now then... beforehand like... whistle:
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You're an overseas voter ...you can bog off - you don't count whistle:
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You're an overseas voter ...you can bog off - you don't count whistle:
sad32:
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happy100
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This whole sham is pure PR and bugger all else, the politicians know that the majority of us have lost all faith in the system because there is no difference between one party of arrogant money grabbing bastards and another and so think that by looking at options to 'change' things we will all be happy complacent cash machines again.
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Interesting that Cameron is a NO when he got elected to Party Leader by AV whistle:
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Interesting that Cameron is a NO when he got elected to Party Leader by AV whistle:
The bastard was on the wireless this morning - I had to leave the room! cussing:
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How come we are only given a choice of yes or no. Surely we should have a number of different voting systems on the form and we then put them in order of our preference. rubschin:
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How come we are only given a choice of yes or no. Surely we should have a number of different voting systems on the form and we then put them in order of our preference. rubschin:
lol: lol: lol:
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How come we are only given a choice of yes or no. Surely we should have a number of different voting systems on the form and we then put them in order of our preference. rubschin:
lol: lol: lol: lol: lol: lol:
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How come we are only given a choice of yes or no. Surely we should have a number of different voting systems on the form and we then put them in order of our preference. rubschin:
happy001 happy001 happy001 happy001
Splendid UM!
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21kcNddVmO0&feature=player_embedded#at=99
Splendid.
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As David Cameron is such an obviously well brought up chap you'd have thought the answers to the AV question would have been better phrased.
Yes please or No thank you ...... so much nicer, don't you think?
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IF voting changed anything it would soon be made illegal.
I'd like compulsory voting with a "none of the above" option. If that option is the winner, start again, with new candidates.
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IF voting changed anything it would soon be made illegal.
I'd like compulsory voting with a "none of the above" option. If that option is the winner, start again, with new candidates.
rubschin:
The problem I see with that idea is that one so seldom knows the candidates well enough to make judgement. I personally vote on party lines not individuals and that puts me in a quandary as our local sitting MP is a nice chap, a good local MP, always readily accessible to his constituents, does much work for them, supports many local initiatives and really does put in a lot of effort so deserves support. Unfortunately he is (i) Welsh (ii) Labour AND (iii) Toes the Party Line ...... so much as I like the chap and even admire his diligence he will never get my vote.
My personal preference for a "Voting Method" would be to leave out candidates names and simply vote for the party that one feels best able to support.
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I rather like the system that was once used in Dr Who and previously some book wot I read.
Every 6-12 months, everyone gets to vote (electronically, from home), basically a thumbs up or thumbs down system.
Thumbs up, leader is left in office, with all the pleasures they desire.
Thumbs down, leader is electrocuted and a new candidate is found.
Nice easy incentive system.
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I would love to torture Gordon Broon eveilgrin:
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Mandelsnake advocates a YES vote. Well that has confirmed my opinion then. NO it is.
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I've yet to see a "Say yes to AV" poster/banner/leaflet, 100's of "No" ones though confused:
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Goodold Guido
http://order-order.com/2011/04/26/desperate-yes-deploy-mandy/ (http://order-order.com/2011/04/26/desperate-yes-deploy-mandy/)
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You can of course vote Yes and then only tick 1 candidate razz:
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You can of course vote Yes and then only tick 1 candidate razz:
True, but other voters will list their preferences. Personally I vote for one candidate, where the others come is of no interest to me. I shall be voting against AV.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13297573 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13297573)
Yay cloud9:
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A predictable result.
You cannot fool the Great British Public ~ If it ain't broke, don't fix it. razz:
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YORKSHIRE delivered an overwhelming “no” verdict in the additional vote referendum as the country sent a clear message that could kill off any voting reform for a generation.
There is no truth in the rumour that special voting papers offering a choice between
"Is it your round?"
Answer
"Aye alw-reet" OR "Nay Lad" were used
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20% of the electorate have spoken. Still, at least it's a bloody nose for Knobhead Clegg.
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20% of the electorate have spoken. Still, at least it's a bloody nose for Knobhead Clegg.
Hopefully more than that! eveilgrin:
More than a bloody nose I mean, not more than 20% like.... ;)
I'm thinking of a fatal wound...
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SO how long before they get a new leader for the Lib Dems ?.....place your bets whistle:
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SO how long before they get a new leader for the Lib Dems ?.....place your bets whistle:
What time is it now? lol: lol: lol:
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Nick Clegg is about as pointless as the lid on a McFlurry
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Turnout 42% -yet again apathy won.