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Title: Grrr!
Post by: The Moan Ranger on June 18, 2008, 02:57:39 PM
It appears I am in trouble again, for this:-                (some details changed to protect the hard of thinking in certain parts of my place)

And - to add to MC's comments, when they took over, certain legacy systems were purposely overlooked as their shelf lives at the time was deemed to be limited. MPoS was going to make Quest redundant. MPoS was going to be able to provide non-footprinted searches for non additional lending purposes. However, the enhancements to MPoS to do this were Business Request numbers 256,274  and 1,865,486 or something and thus they have never come to fruition. Quelle surpris. Where are we at now, in terms of Business Requests? How they managed to get past number 100 yet? After 6 years?
 
It may amaze you to know that we used to send faxes prior to the installation of this (Quest) prehistoric bit of kit - and that time it was seen as a massive leap forward in technology, processes and paper saving. The Brazilian rain forest heaved a noticeable sigh of relief.
 
But going back to fax may - ironically - be a giant leap forward. Welcome to the flat earth society.
 
Let's really blow expectations and do something through RightFax, that would save fat people moving from their seats (getting much needed exercise) and thus the valuation requests for the 2 applications they receive per week these days can be expedited at almost a Snail Formula 1 like pace, as opposed to the current glacial one...
 
I have a feeling that if you phoned Countrywide and mentioned a DOS based Quest machine, they would quickly decide you are Satan and put the phone down.

And I wouldn't blame them, because you are.
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: Snoopy on June 18, 2008, 03:04:32 PM
Never mind TMR ~ soon be time to take the money and run. So long as they don't throw you out on your ear with no redundancy on a trumped up "Gross Misconduct" charge. Tread softly my friend for they have yet to sign the cheque.
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: The Moan Ranger on June 18, 2008, 03:11:07 PM
Seriously, they wouldn't dare... evil:

Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: Barman on June 18, 2008, 03:32:51 PM

And I wouldn't blame them, because you are.


 happy001
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: The Moan Ranger on June 18, 2008, 03:40:56 PM
A tad harsh you think?

For background, I do know this person quite well.
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: Barman on June 18, 2008, 03:59:18 PM
A tad harsh you think?

For background, I do know this person quite well.

Still... excellent all the same...  happ096
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: The Moan Ranger on June 18, 2008, 04:28:36 PM
51 days to go.

And then they will probably re-employ me on a contract basis...
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: Barman on June 18, 2008, 04:33:19 PM
51 days to go.

And then they will probably re-employ me on a contract basis...

Yay!
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: The Moan Ranger on June 18, 2008, 04:41:00 PM
At - obviously - "reasonable" rates..


Tee hee!
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: Snoopy on June 18, 2008, 04:52:51 PM
51 days to go.

And then they will probably re-employ me on a contract basis...


I did that when they "retired" me. Worked out OK at first but I found that being "contracted" meant that I was never at any meetings etc. Good thing one would think ~ given that I always did my damndest to avoid meetings anyway .... but in this and many other subtle ways I found myself out of the loop on all decisions and after six months was glad to call it a day as I felt completely out of touch with what I was being asked to "consult" on.
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: Nick on June 18, 2008, 05:42:04 PM
It appears I am in trouble again, for this:-                (some details changed to protect the hard of thinking in certain parts of my place)

And - to add to MC's comments, when they took over, certain legacy systems were purposely overlooked as their shelf lives at the time was deemed to be limited. MPoS was going to make Quest redundant. MPoS was going to be able to provide non-footprinted searches for non additional lending purposes. However, the enhancements to MPoS to do this were Business Request numbers 256,274  and 1,865,486 or something and thus they have never come to fruition. Quelle surpris. Where are we at now, in terms of Business Requests? How they managed to get past number 100 yet? After 6 years?
 
It may amaze you to know that we used to send faxes prior to the installation of this (Quest) prehistoric bit of kit - and that time it was seen as a massive leap forward in technology, processes and paper saving. The Brazilian rain forest heaved a noticeable sigh of relief.
 
But going back to fax may - ironically - be a giant leap forward. Welcome to the flat earth society.
 
Let's really blow expectations and do something through RightFax, that would save fat people moving from their seats (getting much needed exercise) and thus the valuation requests for the 2 applications they receive per week these days can be expedited at almost a Snail Formula 1 like pace, as opposed to the current glacial one...
 
I have a feeling that if you phoned Countrywide and mentioned a DOS based Quest machine, they would quickly decide you are Satan and put the phone down.

And I wouldn't blame them, because you are.


The meaning of all this eludes me  noooo:
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: Pastis on June 18, 2008, 05:47:10 PM
It's a common story; beware. When I started out on my own I took great pains to make sure the company I was parting from knew where I was, how I could be contacted and that we could still work together. They agreed; an all round good deal.

Lying bastards!  I heard sweet FA from them. I think they had the attitude that nobody treats them like that. Well, here we are, 21 years later, there've been ups and downs but I'm still at it. They went into liquidation about 4 years ago. Frankly I'm surprised they lasted that long.
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: Snoopy on June 18, 2008, 05:48:09 PM
It appears I am in trouble again, for this:-                (some details changed to protect the hard of thinking in certain parts of my place)

And - to add to MC's comments, when they took over, certain legacy systems were purposely overlooked as their shelf lives at the time was deemed to be limited. MPoS was going to make Quest redundant. MPoS was going to be able to provide non-footprinted searches for non additional lending purposes. However, the enhancements to MPoS to do this were Business Request numbers 256,274  and 1,865,486 or something and thus they have never come to fruition. Quelle surpris. Where are we at now, in terms of Business Requests? How they managed to get past number 100 yet? After 6 years?
 
It may amaze you to know that we used to send faxes prior to the installation of this (Quest) prehistoric bit of kit - and that time it was seen as a massive leap forward in technology, processes and paper saving. The Brazilian rain forest heaved a noticeable sigh of relief.
 
But going back to fax may - ironically - be a giant leap forward. Welcome to the flat earth society.
 
Let's really blow expectations and do something through RightFax, that would save fat people moving from their seats (getting much needed exercise) and thus the valuation requests for the 2 applications they receive per week these days can be expedited at almost a Snail Formula 1 like pace, as opposed to the current glacial one...
 
I have a feeling that if you phoned Countrywide and mentioned a DOS based Quest machine, they would quickly decide you are Satan and put the phone down.

And I wouldn't blame them, because you are.


The meaning of all this eludes me  noooo:

TMR was pointing out, in a memo to his superiors that current problems being experienced within their organisation are a direct result of decisions they had made, against his advice, in the past and that in his opinion it served them right. To make his point he used a heavy sarcasm which in my humble opinion probably went straight over their heads. Bosses, it has been my experience, do not do irony.
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 18, 2008, 06:11:54 PM
It appears I am in trouble again, for this:-                (some details changed to protect the hard of thinking in certain parts of my place)

And - to add to MC's comments, when they took over, certain legacy systems were purposely overlooked as their shelf lives at the time was deemed to be limited. MPoS was going to make Quest redundant. MPoS was going to be able to provide non-footprinted searches for non additional lending purposes. However, the enhancements to MPoS to do this were Business Request numbers 256,274  and 1,865,486 or something and thus they have never come to fruition. Quelle surpris. Where are we at now, in terms of Business Requests? How they managed to get past number 100 yet? After 6 years?
 
It may amaze you to know that we used to send faxes prior to the installation of this (Quest) prehistoric bit of kit - and that time it was seen as a massive leap forward in technology, processes and paper saving. The Brazilian rain forest heaved a noticeable sigh of relief.
 
But going back to fax may - ironically - be a giant leap forward. Welcome to the flat earth society.
 
Let's really blow expectations and do something through RightFax, that would save fat people moving from their seats (getting much needed exercise) and thus the valuation requests for the 2 applications they receive per week these days can be expedited at almost a Snail Formula 1 like pace, as opposed to the current glacial one...
 
I have a feeling that if you phoned Countrywide and mentioned a DOS based Quest machine, they would quickly decide you are Satan and put the phone down.

And I wouldn't blame them, because you are.


The meaning of all this eludes me  noooo:

TMR was pointing out, in a memo to his superiors that current problems being experienced within their organisation are a direct result of decisions they had made, against his advice, in the past and that in his opinion it served them right. To make his point he used a heavy sarcasm which in my humble opinion probably went straight over their heads. Bosses, it has been my experience, do not do irony.

Tune in again next week when Mr Snoopy will explain the Lisbon Treaty in a single sentence.
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: Snoopy on June 18, 2008, 06:13:22 PM
Lisbon Treaty in a word ~ Bollocks  whistle:
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 18, 2008, 06:17:26 PM
Lisbon Treaty in a word ~ Bollocks  whistle:
lol: lol:
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: The Moan Ranger on June 18, 2008, 06:26:15 PM
Snoopy - as usual - has it spot on, except NO-ONE is my superior. Except from Mrs TMR (to be).

They will still have to re-employ me as a contractor when I leave, or be in a world of sh1te so deep that even they can't dig themselves out. All 18000 of them and their slick marketing ploys.

But I am not bitter. Only my Young's is.
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: Snoopy on June 18, 2008, 06:38:24 PM
Superiors only in the sense that they have been set above you in the management chain of command by a thoughtless board of directors who in turn were put in place by mindless shareholders who have probably never met you let alone had the opportunity to evaluate your qualities and form a subjective opinion of your true worth. ::)
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: The Moan Ranger on June 18, 2008, 07:04:13 PM
No shareholders in my place. Despite the corporate idiocy in the place, it is a mutual. And still trying to keep the High Street banks on their toes - a good thing.

No bad American sub-prime to destroy the balance books here.

And still the fuckwits go for the bottom line, not the fair play system so eulogised by the corporate ethic.

Apparently.

In three years time, they will be a plc. THEN look at how it goes...

End of sermon.
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: Snoopy on June 18, 2008, 07:19:26 PM
AH! I am a shareholder in a Mutual Building Society. I vote for the board of Directors. I would have no idea who works for them but because I have my pittance paid into an account monthly and I have another account in which I keep my small capital and yet another account through which I can buy and sell what stock holdings I may have at any given time I am addressed by them as a Shareholder and do get my invitation to the AGM plus details of those directors who come and go over the years, resolutions etc ~ all to be voted on at the AGM either by personally attending or by proxy. I get paid a dividend if things go well and not if they don't. Makes no odds if it is a PLC or a Mutual, and I do accept there are differences, the game works the same way.
However since my Building Society is regionally based in East Anglia and has no offices further West than Bedford I am not one of your employers.
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: The Moan Ranger on June 18, 2008, 11:04:03 PM
Then DS, you are a member (snigger) not a shareholder. As defined under the Buiding Socities Act (circa long time ago). Dividends are a separate thing to plc profits, although they both wind up in your bank account.


Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: Snoopy on June 19, 2008, 06:30:53 AM
Semantics ~ you still have a chain of management appointed by a board which is voted in or out of office by the members or shareholders (and it a matter of choice what each business wishes to call them). In that respect there is no difference between working for a mutual or demutualised bank or building society.
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: The Moan Ranger on June 19, 2008, 08:12:18 AM
Semantics ~ you still have a chain of management appointed by a board which is voted in or out of office by the members or shareholders (and it a matter of choice what each business wishes to call them). In that respect there is no difference between working for a mutual or demutualised bank or building society.

"A mutual exists with the purpose of raising funds (or money), from its membership or customers (collectively called its members), which can then be used to provide common services to all members of the organization or society. A mutual is therefore owned by, and run for the benefit of, its members - it has no external shareholders to pay in the form of dividends, and as such does not usually seek to maximize and make large profits or capital gains. Mutuals exist for the members to benefit from the services they provide.

Profits made will usually be re-invested in the mutual for the benefit of the members, although some profit may also be necessary in the case of mutuals to sustain or grow the organization, and to make sure it remains safe and secure."

 lol:

Either way, today they paid me my 10.4% annual bonus in addition to putting my wages in a day early  cloud9:

Imagine how much it could have been if they actually employed more competent people!

Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 19, 2008, 09:21:29 AM
Then DS, you are a member

 eeek:

What did I say?
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: The Moan Ranger on June 19, 2008, 09:33:33 AM
Then DS, you are a member

 eeek:

What did I say?

DS = Dear Snoopy. Apologies for the confusion.

DS could also mean Daft Sod
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 19, 2008, 10:10:59 AM
Then DS, you are a member

 eeek:

What did I say?

DS = Dear Snoopy. Apologies for the confusion.

DS could also mean Daft Sod

 rubschin:
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: The Moan Ranger on June 19, 2008, 10:39:03 PM
Goodnight folks.
Title: Re: Grrr!
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 20, 2008, 07:27:54 AM
Goodnight folks.
I hope it was.