The Virtual Pub
Come Inside... => Saloon Bar => Topic started by: Nick on November 15, 2013, 08:33:04 AM
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Is there no escape? cussing:
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Is there no escape? cussing:
Cyprus! Thumbs:
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Is there no escape? cussing:
Top left corner usually.
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Is there no escape? cussing:
Top left corner usually.
Droll, very droll razz:
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Is there no escape? cussing:
Top left corner usually.
lol:
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Well I will be at East Midlands airport tonight manning the phones taking donations ..... Thumbs: I have done this for the last four years I love it we have such fun talking lovely people on the phones and partying afterwards lots of booze and food we have visits from people we even had the league cup a couple of years ago bloody heavy it was too...the Man United players were not bad either eyes:
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Well I will be at East Midlands airport tonight manning the phones taking donations ..... Thumbs: I have done this for the last four years I love it we have such fun talking lovely people on the phones . .
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: well done you! happ096
and partying afterwards lots of booze and food we have visits from people we even had the league cup a couple of years ago bloody heavy it was too...the Man United players were not bad either eyes:
eeek: :thumbsup:
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Well I will be at East Midlands airport tonight manning the phones taking donations ..
Dithey unnerston whit yer sayin hen?
Well done you
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Well I will be at East Midlands airport tonight manning the phones taking donations ..... Thumbs: I have done this for the last four years I love it we have such fun talking lovely people on the phones and partying afterwards lots of booze and food we have visits from people we even had the league cup a couple of years ago bloody heavy it was too...the Man United players were not bad either eyes:
I am so impressed ;D
A fantastically big well done to you Mrs................................ cloud9:
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Well I will be at East Midlands airport tonight manning the phones taking donations ..... Thumbs: I have done this for the last four years I love it we have such fun talking lovely people on the phones and partying afterwards lots of booze and food we have visits from people we even had the league cup a couple of years ago bloody heavy it was too...the Man United players were not bad either eyes:
Hope it pays well........ rubschin:
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Well I will be at East Midlands airport tonight manning the phones taking donations ..... Thumbs: I have done this for the last four years I love it we have such fun talking lovely people on the phones and partying afterwards lots of booze and food we have visits from people we even had the league cup a couple of years ago bloody heavy it was too...the Man United players were not bad either eyes:
Hope it pays well........ rubschin:
noooo: No pay .... Is a good night ... the people that ring in to donate mostly seem surprised to have a person on the end of the phone .. You get a lot of lonely people ringing and chat for ages it is lovely .. I had one elderly man a couple of years ago who was sobbing about the children and telling me all about his wife of sixty years that he had lost a few months previously ... we had a good chat and when I left him he was laughing ... It is things like that that makes the night ... cloud9:
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Well I will be at East Midlands airport tonight manning the phones taking donations ..... Thumbs: I have done this for the last four years I love it we have such fun talking lovely people on the phones and partying afterwards lots of booze and food we have visits from people we even had the league cup a couple of years ago bloody heavy it was too...the Man United players were not bad either eyes:
Hope it pays well........ rubschin:
noooo: No pay .... Is a good night ... the people that ring in to donate mostly seem surprised to have a person on the end of the phone .. You get a lot of lonely people ringing and chat for ages it is lovely .. I had one elderly man a couple of years ago who was sobbing about the children and telling me all about his wife of sixty years that he had lost a few months previously ... we had a good chat and when I left him he was laughing ... It is things like that that makes the night ... cloud9:
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We could have a postathon! 10p a post?
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Well I will be at East Midlands airport tonight manning the phones taking donations ..... Thumbs: I have done this for the last four years I love it we have such fun talking lovely people on the phones and partying afterwards lots of booze and food we have visits from people we even had the league cup a couple of years ago bloody heavy it was too...the Man United players were not bad either eyes:
Hope it pays well........ rubschin:
noooo: No pay .... Is a good night ... the people that ring in to donate mostly seem surprised to have a person on the end of the phone .. You get a lot of lonely people ringing and chat for ages it is lovely .. I had one elderly man a couple of years ago who was sobbing about the children and telling me all about his wife of sixty years that he had lost a few months previously ... we had a good chat and when I left him he was laughing ... It is things like that that makes the night ... cloud9:
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We could have a postathon! 10p a post?
I am working tonight........
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Well I will be at East Midlands airport tonight manning the phones taking donations ..... Thumbs: I have done this for the last four years I love it we have such fun talking lovely people on the phones and partying afterwards lots of booze and food we have visits from people we even had the league cup a couple of years ago bloody heavy it was too...the Man United players were not bad either eyes:
Hope it pays well........ rubschin:
noooo: No pay .... Is a good night ... the people that ring in to donate mostly seem surprised to have a person on the end of the phone .. You get a lot of lonely people ringing and chat for ages it is lovely .. I had one elderly man a couple of years ago who was sobbing about the children and telling me all about his wife of sixty years that he had lost a few months previously ... we had a good chat and when I left him he was laughing ... It is things like that that makes the night ... cloud9:
I admire your efforts and those of everybody else that obviously works so hard to raiser money at events like this...
But...
I find the whole thing repulsive.... noooo:
This is an event put on by the BBC - an organisation funded by the taxpayer that pays eye-watering amounts to its 'stars' and senior management...
You live in a country where the government pisses away eye-watering amounts of tax payer's money on foreign interventions, foreign aid, vanity projects like HS2 (£50 billion anybody?) and endless uncountable 'charities' and quangos that serve no purpose but to nanny and control your lives...
Instead of running the country, the 'politicians' *spits* that you have elected to represent you feast at the trough of public money while engaging in a two-year election campaign that will ensure that the same old lot are elected the next time to continue the same old process...
I can't help thinking that if all those hundreds of thousands of people that volunteer their time and give their hard-earned to this event spent a bit more time holding their politicians to account there wouldn't be any children in need...
...It sickens me when I hear all the amazing charity events that the British Forces put on to raise money for their injured comrades and their families - why do people that have fought for their country have to rely on charity for their welfare while the government is so profligate with tax payer's money...?
It has always been like this, one of the charities pleading for money on Forces radio this week was The British Limbless Es-Servicemen's Association (BLESMA (http://www.blesma.org/)) set up after WW1 to help those injured men coming back into some form of 'normal' life...
Yet 100 years later our injured troops coming back from yet another pointless war in Afghanistan will still rely on charity donations by the tax payers that vote in the same politicians that sent them out there in the first place...
...and in 2013 despite Children In Need being on the telly box for over thirty years there are still children in need and the country is little better off in some ways than when it was first broadcast...
That is all....
*steps off soap box *
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Well I will be at East Midlands airport tonight manning the phones taking donations ..... Thumbs: I have done this for the last four years I love it we have such fun talking lovely people on the phones and partying afterwards lots of booze and food we have visits from people we even had the league cup a couple of years ago bloody heavy it was too...the Man United players were not bad either eyes:
Hope it pays well........ rubschin:
noooo: No pay .... Is a good night ... the people that ring in to donate mostly seem surprised to have a person on the end of the phone .. You get a lot of lonely people ringing and chat for ages it is lovely .. I had one elderly man a couple of years ago who was sobbing about the children and telling me all about his wife of sixty years that he had lost a few months previously ... we had a good chat and when I left him he was laughing ... It is things like that that makes the night ... cloud9:
:thumbsup:
We could have a postathon! 10p a post?
For VP in Need :thumbsup:
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Well I will be at East Midlands airport tonight manning the phones taking donations ..... Thumbs: I have done this for the last four years I love it we have such fun talking lovely people on the phones and partying afterwards lots of booze and food we have visits from people we even had the league cup a couple of years ago bloody heavy it was too...the Man United players were not bad either eyes:
Hope it pays well........ rubschin:
noooo: No pay .... Is a good night ... the people that ring in to donate mostly seem surprised to have a person on the end of the phone .. You get a lot of lonely people ringing and chat for ages it is lovely .. I had one elderly man a couple of years ago who was sobbing about the children and telling me all about his wife of sixty years that he had lost a few months previously ... we had a good chat and when I left him he was laughing ... It is things like that that makes the night ... cloud9:
I admire your efforts and those of everybody else that obviously works so hard to raiser money at events like this...
But...
I find the whole thing repulsive.... noooo:
This is an event put on by the BBC - an organisation funded by the taxpayer that pays eye-watering amounts to its 'stars' and senior management...
You live in a country where the government pisses away eye-watering amounts of tax payer's money on foreign interventions, foreign aid, vanity projects like HS2 (£50 billion anybody?) and endless uncountable 'charities' and quangos that serve no purpose but to nanny and control your lives...
Instead of running the country, the 'politicians' *spits* that you have elected to represent you feast at the trough of public money while engaging in a two-year election campaign that will ensure that the same old lot are elected the next time to continue the same old process...
I can't help thinking that if all those hundreds of thousands of people that volunteer their time and give their hard-earned to this event spent a bit more time holding their politicians to account there wouldn't be any children in need...
...It sickens me when I hear all the amazing charity events that the British Forces put on to raise money for their injured comrades and their families - why do people that have fought for their country have to rely on charity for their welfare while the government is so profligate with tax payer's money...?
It has always been like this, one of the charities pleading for money on Forces radio this week was The British Limbless Es-Servicemen's Association (BLESMA (http://www.blesma.org/)) set up after WW1 to help those injured men coming back into some form of 'normal' life...
Yet 100 years later our injured troops coming back from yet another pointless war in Afghanistan will still rely on charity donations by the tax payers that vote in the same politicians that sent them out there in the first place...
...and in 2013 despite Children In Need being on the telly box for over thirty years there are still children in need and the country is little better off in some ways than when it was first broadcast...
That is all....
*steps off soap box *
I have to agree , but well done Boogs for your efforts..... :thumbsup: we have the same problem here in Paphos alone there are nearly 700 families in crisis ...yet the MPs are still fucking off alll round the globe to promote Cyprus ..... noooo: coz we get a shitload of fucking tourists from Finland or some shit country that doesn't even have direct flights here..it is a joke....
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Well I will be at East Midlands airport tonight manning the phones taking donations ..... Thumbs: I have done this for the last four years I love it we have such fun talking lovely people on the phones and partying afterwards lots of booze and food we have visits from people we even had the league cup a couple of years ago bloody heavy it was too...the Man United players were not bad either eyes:
Hope it pays well........ rubschin:
noooo: No pay .... Is a good night ... the people that ring in to donate mostly seem surprised to have a person on the end of the phone .. You get a lot of lonely people ringing and chat for ages it is lovely .. I had one elderly man a couple of years ago who was sobbing about the children and telling me all about his wife of sixty years that he had lost a few months previously ... we had a good chat and when I left him he was laughing ... It is things like that that makes the night ... cloud9:
I admire your efforts and those of everybody else that obviously works so hard to raiser money at events like this...
But...
I find the whole thing repulsive.... noooo:
This is an event put on by the BBC - an organisation funded by the taxpayer that pays eye-watering amounts to its 'stars' and senior management...
You live in a country where the government pisses away eye-watering amounts of tax payer's money on foreign interventions, foreign aid, vanity projects like HS2 (£50 billion anybody?) and endless uncountable 'charities' and quangos that serve no purpose but to nanny and control your lives...
Instead of running the country, the 'politicians' *spits* that you have elected to represent you feast at the trough of public money while engaging in a two-year election campaign that will ensure that the same old lot are elected the next time to continue the same old process...
I can't help thinking that if all those hundreds of thousands of people that volunteer their time and give their hard-earned to this event spent a bit more time holding their politicians to account there wouldn't be any children in need...
...It sickens me when I hear all the amazing charity events that the British Forces put on to raise money for their injured comrades and their families - why do people that have fought for their country have to rely on charity for their welfare while the government is so profligate with tax payer's money...?
It has always been like this, one of the charities pleading for money on Forces radio this week was The British Limbless Es-Servicemen's Association (BLESMA (http://www.blesma.org/)) set up after WW1 to help those injured men coming back into some form of 'normal' life...
Yet 100 years later our injured troops coming back from yet another pointless war in Afghanistan will still rely on charity donations by the tax payers that vote in the same politicians that sent them out there in the first place...
...and in 2013 despite Children In Need being on the telly box for over thirty years there are still children in need and the country is little better off in some ways than when it was first broadcast...
That is all....
*steps off soap box *
I hear what you are saying and agree ....... But we are where we are and sadly there is still a need for the likes of CIN.... I do this because it is charities in this country and not elsewhere... Thumbs:
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There are bits I find repulsive but it would be wrong to paint it all so. Unless we tax ourselves to death to ensure no child ever wants for anything we are really left with two alternatives: Charities or some kds living in sheer and utter misery.
So yes Wogan will apparently be paid a fat fee for tonight, yes children's charities like Demelza may be more direct way of helping, yes some of it will be mind numblingly banal or plain tedious and yes as I type some rogue politician or two are likely swanning off for a jaunt disguised as serious work for the country.
But no one promised any of us a perfect world and we still have to do more to get to a good world where yes some things will still not be right. IMO tonight's efforts by Boogs and lots of others get us all a step nearer to a good position and should be supported.
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There are bits I find repulsive but it would be wrong to paint it all so. Unless we tax ourselves to death to ensure no child ever wants for anything we are really left with two alternatives: Charities or some kds living in sheer and utter misery.
So yes Wogan will apparently be paid a fat fee for tonight, yes children's charities like Demelza may be more direct way of helping, yes some of it will be mind numblingly banal or plain tedious and yes as I type some rogue politician or two are likely swanning off for a jaunt disguised as serious work for the country.
But no one promised any of us a perfect world and we still have to do more to get to a good world where yes some things will still not be right. IMO tonight's efforts by Boogs and lots of others get us all a step nearer to a good position and should be supported.
I think you miss the point by a country mile...
It will raise £50M from hard working people that have already paid the gubberment tax on it...
The GDP of the UK is some £2½ Trillion.... The gubberment taxes you to the hilt and then pisses it away so fast that the country still runs a mahoosive deficit...
... it wasted that much alone on that rail tender fiasco recently...
If the people that sat in a bath of baked beans for a week spent that time instead holding the gubberment to account and protesting at the disgusting waste and profligacy of those that are supposed to represent them, there wouldn't be a deficit and there wouldn't be children in need....
You are already taxed to death (and after death) yet the country has a mountain of debt and there are still children in need...
And CIN can run for the next 30 years and guess what - nothing will have changed... Booger will still be manning the phones and there will still be children in need....
Isn't the definition of insanity doing the same thing over and over and over again but expecting a different result each time...?
The gubberment loves this of course - bread and circuses - encourage the proles to give £50M to CIN and that is another £50M that they can piss away instead of doing something useful with it - like changing the system that produces children in need....
Meanwhile India sends a probe to Mars funded by UK taxpayers who can't afford to pay their electricity bills....
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Meanwhile India sends a probe to Mars funded by UK taxpayers who can't afford to pay their electricity bills....
Zackly!! I am always being badgered for money to fund cancer care and suchlike. My tax and NI is being pissed up the wall Banghead
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Meanwhile India sends a probe to Mars funded by UK taxpayers who can't afford to pay their electricity bills....
Zackly!! I am always being badgered for money to fund cancer care and suchlike. My tax and NI is being pissed up the wall Banghead
Zackly3
A quick bit of research on the Intermong reveals....
You can see how the tax receipts projected for 2012-13 are £550.6bn, that is 35.6% of GDP - up since the recession started, but strikingly static for the last few decades.
Clicky (http://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2010/apr/25/tax-receipts-1963)...
Yet they can't find £50M that we apparently need for children in need or provide proper care for injured soldiers and their families...?
Yet we can fund enldess fake charities and lobby groups...?
They can funnel millions to their own parties through the re-renting scandal. (http://order-order.com/2013/11/14/ipsa-confirm-re-renting-scandal-244-mps-exposed-cost-to-taxpayer-of-3-6-million/)...?
It is disgusting and the population need to wake up to it....
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I am not decrying boogs' efforts, but this has to be stopped. When The Boy was about 7 or so I was constantly being asked to support fundraising efforts at his skool. For what? BOOKS and stuff. Heavens, this was a posh bit of Cheshire and we had to sell each other fvcking fairy cakes to buy skoolbooks in a huge economy and this during BLIAR'S "Education, education, education" phase.
It is absurd
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I am not decrying boogs' efforts, but this has to be stopped. When The Boy was about 7 or so I was constantly being asked to support fundraising efforts at his skool. For what? BOOKS and stuff. Heavens, this was a posh bit of Cheshire and we had to sell each other fvcking fairy cakes to buy skoolbooks in a huge economy and this during BLIAR'S "Education, education, education" phase.
It is absurd
Quite so...
The 'charity' meme has been completely abused... noooo:
Look at ASH the anti-smoking 'charity'.... charity my arse cussing:
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You are of course both right*. No one should publicly lift a finger to help a kid or extoll others to so help until we have righted all the world's wrongs first.
* actually no I'm taking the piss, it's bollocks
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You are of course both right*. No one should publicly lift a finger to help a kid or extoll others to so help until we have righted all the world's wrongs first.
* actually no I'm taking the piss, it's bollocks
Yeah but why give money to the jiggaboos ..when people in the UK have problems...... noooo:
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You are of course both right*. No one should publicly lift a finger to help a kid or extoll others to so help until we have righted all the world's wrongs first.
* actually no I'm taking the piss, it's bollocks
Once again you spectacularly miss the point I was making.... ::)
That point being that the gubberment wastes more cash every single year than CIN has made in thirty years... and continues to do it year, after year after year with no accountability...
So while I admire people that sit in a bath of baked beans for a week to raise money for charity it is ultimately pointless.... I just hope they have been reusing the beans for the past thirty years - or perhaps they donate them to Red Nose Day for the brown kids...?
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You are of course both right*. No one should publicly lift a finger to help a kid or extoll others to so help until we have righted all the world's wrongs first.
* actually no I'm taking the piss, it's bollocks
Once again you spectacularly miss the point I was making.... ::)
That point being that the gubberment wastes more cash every single year than CIN has made in thirty years... and continues to do it year, after year after year with no accountability...
So while I admire people that sit in a bath of baked beans for a week to raise money for charity it is ultimately pointless.... I just hope they have been reusing the beans for the past thirty years - or perhaps they donate them to Red Nose Day for the brown kids...?
You could feed an entire village in Ethiopia for a week on a bath of baked beans. noooo:
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You are of course both right*. No one should publicly lift a finger to help a kid or extoll others to so help until we have righted all the world's wrongs first.
* actually no I'm taking the piss, it's bollocks
Once again you spectacularly miss the point I was making.... ::)
That point being that the gubberment wastes more cash every single year than CIN has made in thirty years... and continues to do it year, after year after year with no accountability...
So while I admire people that sit in a bath of baked beans for a week to raise money for charity it is ultimately pointless.... I just hope they have been reusing the beans for the past thirty years - or perhaps they donate them to Red Nose Day for the brown kids...?
You could feed an entire village in Ethiopia for a week on a bath of baked beans. noooo:
lol: lol: lol:
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Hope the evening went well for you Boogs - I am sure you were superb happ096
If we are ever (not often) in London together BM huffs each time I place a few bob in the beggar bowl...........generally muttering that they have their 4x4 parked just around the corner...............could be true but maybe one of them does need it so whistle:
Out with my real big sis once and approached by a beggar and his dog (how come they all have dogs nowadays) and after I'd given a few pounds she began muttering but then walked back to give the dog her fish..................the beggar was most indignant and asked for it himself and she told him censored: censored: censored: censored: censored: **Best laugh of the night that was ;D
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I know it's from the daily wail but........ noooo:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508063/UK-pay-4m-fund-Ethiopian-Spice-Girls-New-aid-project-Yegna-ridiculed.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508063/UK-pay-4m-fund-Ethiopian-Spice-Girls-New-aid-project-Yegna-ridiculed.html)
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I know it's from the daily wail but........ noooo:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508063/UK-pay-4m-fund-Ethiopian-Spice-Girls-New-aid-project-Yegna-ridiculed.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508063/UK-pay-4m-fund-Ethiopian-Spice-Girls-New-aid-project-Yegna-ridiculed.html)
noooo:
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I know it's from the daily wail but........ noooo:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508063/UK-pay-4m-fund-Ethiopian-Spice-Girls-New-aid-project-Yegna-ridiculed.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2508063/UK-pay-4m-fund-Ethiopian-Spice-Girls-New-aid-project-Yegna-ridiculed.html)
Agreed bludy disgrace .... censored:
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Hope the evening went well for you Boogs - I am sure you were superb happ096
If we are ever (not often) in London together BM huffs each time I place a few bob in the beggar bowl...........generally muttering that they have their 4x4 parked just around the corner...............could be true but maybe one of them does need it so whistle:
Out with my real big sis once and approached by a beggar and his dog (how come they all have dogs nowadays) and after I'd given a few pounds she began muttering but then walked back to give the dog her fish..................the beggar was most indignant and asked for it himself and she told him censored: censored: censored: censored: censored: **Best laugh of the night that was ;D
Had a great night sis Thumbs:
You are a better person than me.... I have to agree with BM on the beggers issue I will not give them money noooo:
:thumbsup: Like big sis's style ;D
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Whilst watching Children in Need, one of the presenters told us to " pick up the phone and pledge." Well 2 days on I'm still sat here with my mobile in one hand and the furniture polish in the other wondering what the feck I'm supposed to do.
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Whilst watching Children in Need, one of the presenters told us to " pick up the phone and pledge." Well 2 days on I'm still sat here with my mobile in one hand and the furniture polish in the other wondering what the feck I'm supposed to do.
lol: lol: lol:
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Whilst watching Children in Need, one of the presenters told us to " pick up the phone and pledge." Well 2 days on I'm still sat here with my mobile in one hand and the furniture polish in the other wondering what the feck I'm supposed to do.
lol: lol: lol:
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Whilst watching Children in Need, one of the presenters told us to " pick up the phone and pledge." Well 2 days on I'm still sat here with my mobile in one hand and the furniture polish in the other wondering what the feck I'm supposed to do.
lol: lol: lol: lol:
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Whilst watching Children in Need, one of the presenters told us to " pick up the phone and pledge." Well 2 days on I'm still sat here with my mobile in one hand and the furniture polish in the other wondering what the feck I'm supposed to do.
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Delivered with poise and polish JOM :thumbsup:
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Whilst watching Children in Need, one of the presenters told us to " pick up the phone and pledge." Well 2 days on I'm still sat here with my mobile in one hand and the furniture polish in the other wondering what the feck I'm supposed to do.
drumroll: lol: lol: lol:
Don't lose your rag.
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Whilst watching Children in Need, one of the presenters told us to " pick up the phone and pledge." Well 2 days on I'm still sat here with my mobile in one hand and the furniture polish in the other wondering what the feck I'm supposed to do.
drumroll: lol: lol: lol:
Don't lose your rag.
Darwin, as usual, shines with his pithy, to the point, comment!
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I note the UK has donated £50M and a RAF C-130 Hercules to the Philippines...
£50m... about the sum that will be donated to CIN to save those poor children in need.....
It does seem amazing to me that the UK couldn't find that £50M to help the poor UK children in need months ago....
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I note the UK has donated £50M and a RAF C-130 Hercules to the Philippines...
£50m... about the sum that will be donated to CIN to save those poor children in need.....
It does seem amazing to me that the UK couldn't find that £50M to help the poor UK children in need months ago....
I did see that ...... noooo: and here the the government also helped ......1 hours free calls home.... ;D (that's serious)
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Or we could just stop funding the Indian Space Programme cussing:
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Or we could just stop funding the Indian Space Programme cussing:
Oh noes if there are indians ..I want space between us... noooo:
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I note the UK has donated £50M and a RAF C-130 Hercules to the Philippines...
£50m... about the sum that will be donated to CIN to save those poor children in need.....
It does seem amazing to me that the UK couldn't find that £50M to help the poor UK children in need months ago....
I did see that ...... noooo: and here the the government also helped ......1 hours free calls home.... ;D (that's serious)
Miss A's cleaner is Philippine.... Apparently she says any cash sent over there would disappear into the totally corrupt gubberment..... noooo:
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I note the UK has donated £50M and a RAF C-130 Hercules to the Philippines...
£50m... about the sum that will be donated to CIN to save those poor children in need.....
It does seem amazing to me that the UK couldn't find that £50M to help the poor UK children in need months ago....
I did see that ...... noooo: and here the the government also helped ......1 hours free calls home.... ;D (that's serious)
Miss A's cleaner is Philippine.... Apparently she says any cash sent over there would disappear into the totally corrupt gubberment..... noooo:
So if you want any free calls to a flip=flop, call this month.... Thumbs:...(top tip)..
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Or we could just stop funding the Indian Space Programme cussing:
Stop pissing the money away.... leave the cash in taxpayer's pockets... let them decide what charities they give to (or not)...
Statistics show that populations with gubberements that are less free with their munny are much more likely to give to charity....
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Or we could just stop funding the Indian Space Programme cussing:
Stop pissing the money away.... leave the cash in taxpayer's pockets... let them decide what charities they give to (or not)...
Statistics show that populations with gubberements that are less free with their munny are much more likely to give to charity....
Exactly but wasn't it your earlier post that decried encouraging people to give to charity?
We didn't fund India's space programme, what we didn't do was arguably worse. Instead of us sending money aimed at the poorest, we should tell India that all the time it has so many groosly poor when it has wealth in abundance then we will not freely trade with it. But we don't make that stand because so many party donors want that trade.
But imho freely made individual charity giving is good and if the BBC get massive viewing figures helping that charity giving then why not?
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Or we could just stop funding the Indian Space Programme cussing:
Stop pissing the money away.... leave the cash in taxpayer's pockets... let them decide what charities they give to (or not)...
Statistics show that populations with gubberements that are less free with their munny are much more likely to give to charity....
Exactly but wasn't it your earlier post that decried encouraging people to give to charity?
We didn't fund India's space programme, what we didn't do was arguably worse. Instead of us sending money aimed at the poorest, we should tell India that all the time it has so many groosly poor when it has wealth in abundance then we will not freely trade with it. But we don't make that stand because so many party donors want that trade.
But imho freely made individual charity giving is good and if the BBC get massive viewing figures helping that charity giving then why not?
No, that wasn't my point at all - and I strongly suspect you know it.... ::)
My point was *types slowly for the hard of understanding*, there shouldn't be a need for the UK population to give generously to support CIN while the gubberment pisses away billions of Pounds of their taxes.
In exactly the same way that there shouldn't be a space programme India while their poor are starving....
I am totally for giving cash to charity if people choose to do so - what they do with their money after paying tax is of course their right. The gubberment should stop taking so much from them, stop pissing so much of it away and stop giving to 'charities' that they probably don't approve of...
I didn't watch CIN - I'm guessing there were heartbreaking stories of kids that need just a few bob to lead normal lives - It must be sickening if you are in that position to suddenly find that the gubberment had £50M in its back pocket all along which it is now sending off to a foreign land on your behalf.... noooo:
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Or we could just stop funding the Indian Space Programme cussing:
Stop pissing the money away.... leave the cash in taxpayer's pockets... let them decide what charities they give to (or not)...
Statistics show that populations with gubberements that are less free with their munny are much more likely to give to charity....
Exactly but wasn't it your earlier post that decried encouraging people to give to charity?
We didn't fund India's space programme, what we didn't do was arguably worse. Instead of us sending money aimed at the poorest, we should tell India that all the time it has so many groosly poor when it has wealth in abundance then we will not freely trade with it. But we don't make that stand because so many party donors want that trade.
But imho freely made individual charity giving is good and if the BBC get massive viewing figures helping that charity giving then why not?
No, that wasn't my point at all - and I strongly suspect you know it.... ::)
My point was *types slowly for the hard of understanding*, there shouldn't be a need for the UK population to give generously to support CIN while the gubberment pisses away billions of Pounds of their taxes.
In exactly the same way that there shouldn't be a space programme India while their poor are starving....
I am totally for giving cash to charity if people choose to do so - what they do with their money after paying tax is of course their right. The gubberment should stop taking so much from them, stop pissing so much of it away and stop giving to 'charities' that they probably don't approve of...
I didn't watch CIN - I'm guessing there were heartbreaking stories of kids that need just a few bob to lead normal lives - It must be sickening if you are in that position to suddenly find that the gubberment had £50M in its back pocket all along which it is now sending off to a foreign land on your behalf.... noooo:
Won't work.
If the government made sure no child was ever in any need then you would just get more children to solve and loads of other peoples in need.
Charity has a place, governments are finite and should be. Everyone has their pet issues of government waste and in £800B of spend a year there will always be a few % misspent.
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Only give child allowance for first kid ..(not china ) have as many chav brain dead morons by your pot smoking thieving scumbag fvck buddy ..but only give them money for 1........
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Or we could just stop funding the Indian Space Programme cussing:
Stop pissing the money away.... leave the cash in taxpayer's pockets... let them decide what charities they give to (or not)...
Statistics show that populations with gubberements that are less free with their munny are much more likely to give to charity....
Exactly but wasn't it your earlier post that decried encouraging people to give to charity?
We didn't fund India's space programme, what we didn't do was arguably worse. Instead of us sending money aimed at the poorest, we should tell India that all the time it has so many groosly poor when it has wealth in abundance then we will not freely trade with it. But we don't make that stand because so many party donors want that trade.
But imho freely made individual charity giving is good and if the BBC get massive viewing figures helping that charity giving then why not?
No, that wasn't my point at all - and I strongly suspect you know it.... ::)
My point was *types slowly for the hard of understanding*, there shouldn't be a need for the UK population to give generously to support CIN while the gubberment pisses away billions of Pounds of their taxes.
In exactly the same way that there shouldn't be a space programme India while their poor are starving....
I am totally for giving cash to charity if people choose to do so - what they do with their money after paying tax is of course their right. The gubberment should stop taking so much from them, stop pissing so much of it away and stop giving to 'charities' that they probably don't approve of...
I didn't watch CIN - I'm guessing there were heartbreaking stories of kids that need just a few bob to lead normal lives - It must be sickening if you are in that position to suddenly find that the gubberment had £50M in its back pocket all along which it is now sending off to a foreign land on your behalf.... noooo:
Won't work.
If the government made sure no child was ever in any need then you would just get more children to solve and loads of other peoples in need.
Charity has a place, governments are finite and should be. Everyone has their pet issues of government waste and in £800B of spend a year there will always be a few % misspent.
You are being deliberately obtuse aren't you...? ::)
Please tell me you are....
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I sense we are approaching a draw
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I sense we are approaching a draw
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Only give child allowance for first kid ..(not china ) have as many chav brain dead morons by your pot smoking thieving scumbag fvck buddy ..but only give them money for 1........
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http://youtu.be/f8CEBOHmEbk (http://youtu.be/f8CEBOHmEbk)
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http://youtu.be/f8CEBOHmEbk (http://youtu.be/f8CEBOHmEbk)
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I sense we are approaching a draw
Would there then be extra time and the dreaded penalties? Or do away posts have to count double first?
One of the sad things about the interweb is you do discover you disagree with people in ways you wouldn't do if you were in a real pub. I'd hate a world where we all agreed all the time or bottled up but if I want to have a big argument I'll go elsewhere (http://www.ukdebate.co.uk/forums/index.php)for it.
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...if I want to have a big argument I'll go elsewhere (http://www.ukdebate.co.uk/forums/index.php)for it.
Blood and sands! now there's a place for pointless and neverending arguments. They've even got a religion section noooo:
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...if I want to have a big argument I'll go elsewhere (http://www.ukdebate.co.uk/forums/index.php)for it.
Blood and sands! now there's a place for pointless and neverending arguments. They've even got a religion section noooo:
I avoid the religious section like the plague
But if you have a strong interest in a topic it's a good place to see views tested and discover your going in position is likely too simplistic. But it does get brutal sometimes, not for those easy to tears.
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...if I want to have a big argument I'll go elsewhere (http://www.ukdebate.co.uk/forums/index.php)for it.
Blood and sands! now there's a place for pointless and neverending arguments. They've even got a religion section noooo:
I avoid the religious section like the plague
But if you have a strong interest in a topic it's a good place to see views tested and discover your going in position is likely too simplistic. But it does get brutal sometimes, not for those easy to tears.
But do they let immigrants join....... rubschin: or is it for people who really count.... rubschin:
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There are several foreign born there. BTW it's easy to get banned there and there are few laughs
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There are several foreign born there. BTW it's easy to get banned there and there are few laughs
I won't bother then ......I seem to get banned a lot........ rubschin:
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I got banned for a week for calling one of the mods "Radio Assad"
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£2bn of UK aid to help Third World go green (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/9722767/2bn-of-UK-aid-to-help-Third-World-go-green.html)
Britain yesterday pledged almost £2 billion in “climate aid” to help finance foreign projects including wind turbines in Africa and greener cattle farming in Colombia.
Each household will contribute £70 to schemes to tackle climate change in developing countries before March 2015, under plans championed by Ed Davey, the Liberal Democrat Energy Secretary.
Just another few % misspent.... ::)
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£2bn of UK aid to help Third World go green (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/9722767/2bn-of-UK-aid-to-help-Third-World-go-green.html)
Britain yesterday pledged almost £2 billion in “climate aid” to help finance foreign projects including wind turbines in Africa and greener cattle farming in Colombia.
Each household will contribute £70 to schemes to tackle climate change in developing countries before March 2015, under plans championed by Ed Davey, the Liberal Democrat Energy Secretary.
Just another few % misspent.... ::)
One of Gordon Brown's promises that we have either honour or look like complete international shits -and that might ultimately cost us far far more. I'd wager there's no new money here.
An interesting read here http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/11/18/wealthy-nations-promised-billions-to-help-the-poor-adapt-to-climate-change-where-did-it-go/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/11/18/wealthy-nations-promised-billions-to-help-the-poor-adapt-to-climate-change-where-did-it-go/)
You want to see where the big spend is then this is a good place to start
http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/total_spending_2012UKbn (http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/total_spending_2012UKbn)
£1.8B over several years is less than 0.1%. When you think about it 0.1% here, 0.1% there and pretty soon you're still not getting to grips with the big problem
I see that total tosser Greg Barker (aka my MP) hasn't worked out yet that climate change action is so 2005.
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£2bn of UK aid to help Third World go green (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/9722767/2bn-of-UK-aid-to-help-Third-World-go-green.html)
Britain yesterday pledged almost £2 billion in “climate aid” to help finance foreign projects including wind turbines in Africa and greener cattle farming in Colombia.
Each household will contribute £70 to schemes to tackle climate change in developing countries before March 2015, under plans championed by Ed Davey, the Liberal Democrat Energy Secretary.
Just another few % misspent.... ::)
One of Gordon Brown's promises that we have either honour or look like complete international shits -and that might ultimately cost us far far more. I'd wager there's no new money here.
An interesting read here http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/11/18/wealthy-nations-promised-billions-to-help-the-poor-adapt-to-climate-change-where-did-it-go/ (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/11/18/wealthy-nations-promised-billions-to-help-the-poor-adapt-to-climate-change-where-did-it-go/)
You want to see where the big spend is then this is a good place to start
http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/total_spending_2012UKbn (http://www.ukpublicspending.co.uk/total_spending_2012UKbn)
£1.8B over several years is less than 0.1%. When you think about it 0.1% here, 0.1% there and pretty soon you're still not getting to grips with the big problem
I see that total tosser Greg Barker (aka my MP) hasn't worked out yet that climate change action is so 2005.
So (without wishing to labour my initial point), you think it is fine to piss away a couple of billion so we don't look like shits while hard pressed taxpayers in the UK are begged for £50m to prevent there being Children in Need in the UK...?
Try as I might, I can't understand your support of this disgusting waste while parts of the UK population genuinely suffer through lack of funds.... It doesn't matter if it is .1%, 10% or .00000001%, it is still two billion quid that it will take CIN years and years to raise... noooo:
And lets not forget, no fecker in the UK has ever voted for this or was ever asked about it....
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So just where did I say it was "fine to piss away a couple of billion"?
Oh look I didn't.
As for "no fecker in the UK has ever voted for this or was ever asked about it" well yes they did. Some of us actually read the manifestos the voters voted on.
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So just where did I say it was "fine to piss away a couple of billion"?
Oh look I didn't.
As for "no fecker in the UK has ever voted for this or was ever asked about it" well yes they did. Some of us actually read the manifestos the voters voted on.
I must have misunderstood your comments then... You certainly seem to think it is fine to piss away billions providing the %age of overall spending is small...
And I missed the manifesto that pledged to give away billions on pointless overseas green schemes in preference to helping the needy at home...
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I reckon Google will find you the 2005 NuLab manifesto.
They promised this and that to everyone including IIRC massive increases in foreign aid and aiming much of it at so called climate change.
And guess who was voted in? NuLab. Not with any help from me.
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I reckon Google will find you the 2005 NuLab manifesto.
They promised this and that to everyone including IIRC massive increases in foreign aid and aiming much of it at so called climate change.
And guess who was voted in? NuLab. Not with any help from me.
I think you'll find it is 2013 and they are no longer in power.... ;)
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and the promise was made in 2009 when they were
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and the promise was made in 2009 when they were
And now they aren't....
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and the promise was made in 2009 when they were
And now they aren't....
Behind you...........well it's panto season......... redface:
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and the promise was made in 2009 when they were
And now they aren't....
And you do know what the Tories promised in their 2010 manifesto don't you?
We will increase spending on health in real terms every year and honour our commitments on international aid, but our plan to get a grip on the deficit will include cuts to wasteful spending in many other departmental budgets.
Anyway are you really saying it's somehow good to make a promise and then just decide later it'll be OK to break it because now it seems a little awkward?
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and the promise was made in 2009 when they were
And now they aren't....
Behind you...........well it's panto season......... redface:
Buttons?
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and the promise was made in 2009 when they were
And now they aren't....
And you do know what the Tories promised in their 2010 manifesto don't you?
We will increase spending on health in real terms every year and honour our commitments on international aid, but our plan to get a grip on the deficit will include cuts to wasteful spending in many other departmental budgets.
Anyway are you really saying it's somehow good to make a promise and then just decide later it'll be OK to break it because now it seems a little awkward?
Personally ..I think yes ...........it's called having balls......
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and the promise was made in 2009 when they were
And now they aren't....
And you do know what the Tories promised in their 2010 manifesto don't you?
We will increase spending on health in real terms every year and honour our commitments on international aid, but our plan to get a grip on the deficit will include cuts to wasteful spending in many other departmental budgets.
Anyway are you really saying it's somehow good to make a promise and then just decide later it'll be OK to break it because now it seems a little awkward?
Personally ..I think yes ...........it's called having balls......
Really?
I'd consider it acting like a complete shit. Anyway just how would you do in your business if you were known for making a promise and then reneging on it just because you couldn't be arsed anymore? So how do you think the UK that depends on international financial trading would do if it had the reputation for just abandoning promises on a whim? Utterly fucked is the answer.
The promise the UK government did not and should not make is to make every child's life just ticketyboo just so there's never even a chance that charity might have a part.
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I'm sure that you will tell me I'm wrong, but did you just infer that we should keep children in poverty just to give the charities something to do?
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and the promise was made in 2009 when they were
And now they aren't....
And you do know what the Tories promised in their 2010 manifesto don't you?
We will increase spending on health in real terms every year and honour our commitments on international aid, but our plan to get a grip on the deficit will include cuts to wasteful spending in many other departmental budgets.
Anyway are you really saying it's somehow good to make a promise and then just decide later it'll be OK to break it because now it seems a little awkward?
Personally ..I think yes ...........it's called having balls......
Really?
I'd consider it acting like a complete shit. Anyway just how would you do in your business if you were known for making a promise and then reneging on it just because you couldn't be arsed anymore? So how do you think the UK that depends on international financial trading would do if it had the reputation for just abandoning promises on a whim? Utterly fucked is the answer.
The promise the UK government did not and should not make is to make every child's life just ticketyboo just so there's never even a chance that charity might have a part.
I'm amazed! eeek:
This is like somebody going down the pub every weekend and buying drinks for everybody because he is raking it in at work...
...and continuing to do it after he has been made redundant - even tho he cannot feed his own kids in order to do so... ::)
Still, at least they won't think he is a complete shit down the pub eh? lol:
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and the promise was made in 2009 when they were
And now they aren't....
And you do know what the Tories promised in their 2010 manifesto don't you?
We will increase spending on health in real terms every year and honour our commitments on international aid, but our plan to get a grip on the deficit will include cuts to wasteful spending in many other departmental budgets.
Anyway are you really saying it's somehow good to make a promise and then just decide later it'll be OK to break it because now it seems a little awkward?
Personally ..I think yes ...........it's called having balls......
Really?
I'd consider it acting like a complete shit. Anyway just how would you do in your business if you were known for making a promise and then reneging on it just because you couldn't be arsed anymore? So how do you think the UK that depends on international financial trading would do if it had the reputation for just abandoning promises on a whim? Utterly fucked is the answer.
The promise the UK government did not and should not make is to make every child's life just ticketyboo just so there's never even a chance that charity might have a part.
I'm amazed! eeek:
This is like somebody going down the pub every weekend and buying drinks for everybody because he is raking it in at work...
...and continuing to do it after he has been made redundant - even tho he cannot feed his own kids in order to do so... ::)
Still, at least they won't think he is a complete shit down the pub eh? lol:
Amazing!! The key to survival in government and business (or even life in general for that matter) is to be able to adapt to changing conditions rapidly. The world's finances have changed dramatically since 2008 and this must be taken into account.
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I'm sure that you will tell me I'm wrong, but did you just infer that we should keep children in poverty just to give the charities something to do?
No and cannot see how you could construe that from my post.
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and the promise was made in 2009 when they were
And now they aren't....
And you do know what the Tories promised in their 2010 manifesto don't you?
We will increase spending on health in real terms every year and honour our commitments on international aid, but our plan to get a grip on the deficit will include cuts to wasteful spending in many other departmental budgets.
Anyway are you really saying it's somehow good to make a promise and then just decide later it'll be OK to break it because now it seems a little awkward?
Personally ..I think yes ...........it's called having balls......
Really?
I'd consider it acting like a complete shit. Anyway just how would you do in your business if you were known for making a promise and then reneging on it just because you couldn't be arsed anymore? So how do you think the UK that depends on international financial trading would do if it had the reputation for just abandoning promises on a whim? Utterly fucked is the answer.
The promise the UK government did not and should not make is to make every child's life just ticketyboo just so there's never even a chance that charity might have a part.
I'm amazed! eeek:
This is like somebody going down the pub every weekend and buying drinks for everybody because he is raking it in at work...
...and continuing to do it after he has been made redundant - even tho he cannot feed his own kids in order to do so... ::)
Still, at least they won't think he is a complete shit down the pub eh? lol:
It's not remotely like it as you know full well
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Anyone fancy a pint © Berek ( cloud9: )
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and the promise was made in 2009 when they were
And now they aren't....
And you do know what the Tories promised in their 2010 manifesto don't you?
We will increase spending on health in real terms every year and honour our commitments on international aid, but our plan to get a grip on the deficit will include cuts to wasteful spending in many other departmental budgets.
Anyway are you really saying it's somehow good to make a promise and then just decide later it'll be OK to break it because now it seems a little awkward?
Personally ..I think yes ...........it's called having balls......
Really?
I'd consider it acting like a complete shit. Anyway just how would you do in your business if you were known for making a promise and then reneging on it just because you couldn't be arsed anymore? So how do you think the UK that depends on international financial trading would do if it had the reputation for just abandoning promises on a whim? Utterly fucked is the answer.
The promise the UK government did not and should not make is to make every child's life just ticketyboo just so there's never even a chance that charity might have a part.
I'm amazed! eeek:
This is like somebody going down the pub every weekend and buying drinks for everybody because he is raking it in at work...
...and continuing to do it after he has been made redundant - even tho he cannot feed his own kids in order to do so... ::)
Still, at least they won't think he is a complete shit down the pub eh? lol:
It's not remotely like it as you know full well
In my humble opinion it is exactly like it!
The country has no money - yet we should keep our overseas aid promises 'in case we look like a total shit'...?
Not promises of food or warm clothing for those in need that have none - windy millers! noooo:
So the country is borrowing money - trillions - to build windy millers in Africa while charities beg for a few millions to help the needy in the UK?
It is just like the father taking out a payday loan to treat his mates down the pub while his kids starve... ::)
Yes please JOM - I will have that pint.... Thumbs:
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Oh flying fuck guess what's been on the telebox and it's still on Banghead
Pass me the cyanide pills
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Oh flying fuck guess what's been on the telebox and it's still on Banghead
Pass me the cyanide pills
Dambusters ....... rubschin:
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Oh flying fuck guess what's been on the telebox and it's still on Banghead
Pass me the cyanide pills
Dambusters ....... rubschin:
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