Digi doin' me 'ed in.

[GROWLER]

I'm fedup with this. It's just a money making scam.

From next month, I won't be able to record owt whilst watching another channel cus I've just got a Freeview box, albeit an expensive one with a built in VCR and DVD player/recorder.
Is this supposed to be progress? 

It seems going over to Virgin or Sky is going to be the only option now unfortunately.
Suggestions for the bestest low cost options please, and which is best of the above two?

Only got a bog standard tv btw.

[Miss Demeanour]

If you don't want to subscribe to cable / sky etc have you considered one of these ?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Humax-PVR9300T-320GB-Twin-Tuner/dp/B00272N9PC

Freeview, records programs / series of prgrams , playback etc.

There is a smaller sized one at 160 GB that will prolly cost just over ?100  and then that's it a one off payment and no more

[GROWLER]

If you don't want to subscribe to cable / sky etc have you considered one of these ?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Humax-PVR9300T-320GB-Twin-Tuner/dp/B00272N9PC

Freeview, records programs / series of prgrams , playback etc.

There is a smaller sized one at 160 GB that will prolly cost just over ?100  and then that's it a one off payment and no more

Interesting. Didn't know such things existed tbh.

Installation is simple, just plug in and play.

Words are cheap. I've never mastered the DVD recorder here. It lies there virtually unused.

[Miss Demeanour]

No honestly really is a doddle to set up. I set one up for a friend who is a complete technophobe and was no probs and really easy to use.

[GROWLER]

No honestly really is a doddle to set up. I set one up for a friend who is a complete technophobe and was no probs and really easy to use.

I'll certainly consider it. I'll read some of the customer reviews and ask the Growlers for their opinions, as this really isn't my territory. 

Something has to be done though.

Keep getting bombarded by mail shots from Virgin. Cable has been laid apparently,
 Fiver a month providing you take on their telephone line thing for ?12pm, and a man comes 'round to set it up apparently.

I dunno. I'm bamboozled. 
Don't need all this. I luv anaoluge.

Managed to watch the remainder of last nights Mars documentary on that BBC i player thing on here, so that's progress I suppose! 

[GROWLER]

Come on you old lump of lard. You're the BIG TV expert 'round here. What's it to be...and don't say a sky dish.

[Barman]

Come on you old lump of lard. You're the BIG TV expert 'round here. What's it to be...and don't say a sky dish.

Who me...?

1) You have no choice but to go digital
2) You can choose Sky, Freeview, cable or freesat

Cheapest option is prolly Freeview and the PVR that Miss D linked to looks excellent.

Unfortunately I have no choice here but Greek TV, Arabic satellite or Sky.

[GROWLER]

Come on you old lump of lard. You're the BIG TV expert 'round here. What's it to be...and don't say a sky dish.

Who me...?

1) You have no choice but to go digital
2) You can choose Sky, Freeview, cable or freesat

Cheapest option is prolly Freeview and the PVR that Miss D linked to looks excellent.

Unfortunately I have no choice here but Greek TV, Arabic satellite or Sky.

Got freeview, but imo it's shite. Can't record another channel if you're watching summat else.

I'm repeatin' meself 'ere.

Virgin v Sky?

[Barman]

Come on you old lump of lard. You're the BIG TV expert 'round here. What's it to be...and don't say a sky dish.

Who me...?

1) You have no choice but to go digital
2) You can choose Sky, Freeview, cable or freesat

Cheapest option is prolly Freeview and the PVR that Miss D linked to looks excellent.

Unfortunately I have no choice here but Greek TV, Arabic satellite or Sky.

Got freeview, but imo it's shite. Can't record another channel if you're watching summat else.

I'm repeatin' meself 'ere.

Virgin v Sky?

Digital set-top box with Freeview+ - enables simultaneous viewing of one channel and recording another channel

You may well find the tuner in the Humax is better than your existing one... or even the Humax with a new antenna will prove the best option.

The problem with Sky (and I suspect Virgin) is that you have to sign up for a long period and getting out of it is a nightmare.

You might also want to consider BT Broadband which also offers telly and recording abilities...

As I say, my advice would prolly be Freeview with a PVR unless you want to pay out ?22 per month for the minimum Sky subscription...

[Snoopy]

Come on you old lump of lard. You're the BIG TV expert 'round here. What's it to be...and don't say a sky dish.

Who me...?

1) You have no choice but to go digital
2) You can choose Sky, Freeview, cable or freesat

Cheapest option is prolly Freeview and the PVR that Miss D linked to looks excellent.

Unfortunately I have no choice here but Greek TV, Arabic satellite or Sky.

Got freeview, but imo it's shite. Can't record another channel if you're watching summat else.

I'm repeatin' meself 'ere.

Virgin v Sky?

The same programmes are shown on all channels but Sky and Virgin cable do offer the chance to buy more channels. As for recording a channel whilst watching different one that problem is common to all digital receivers UNLESS you pay for a different type of recorder than the one you have. Digital broadcasts can be recorded only by selecting the channel at the decoder which means you either need to watch it or watch nothing whilst recording unless you have a more expensive, specialised recorder that can decode and record another channel whilst you watch something else. I have Freesat in one room and Freeview in another. There is little to choose between them in either set up or operating cost and the content is the same as I do not pay for additional channels. The recording of either can be (and is here) done with a VHS recorder or a DVD recorder ~ or with the sort of thing that Miss D suggested, which I have thus far avoided to prevent even more arguments about who wants to watch what. 
Miss D's option will permit you to watch one channel whilst recording another.
All suppliers that you have to pay for content from insist on a minimum 18 month contract. Sky, BT and Virgin all want a hefty sum every month but they still show the same programmes.

[Pastis]

I dunno. I'm bamboozled. 
Don't need all this. I luv anaoluge.

To say nothing of losing analogue radio in a few years time too.

I'm trying to figure out what DAB+ is 

[Snoopy]

I dunno. I'm bamboozled.  
Don't need all this. I luv anaoluge.

To say nothing of losing analogue radio in a few years time too.

I'm trying to figure out what DAB+ is  

An upgraded version of the DAB system was released in February 2007, which is called DAB+. DAB is not forward compatible with DAB+, which means that DAB-only receivers will not be able to receive DAB+ broadcasts. DAB+ is approximately twice as efficient as DAB due to the adoption of the AAC+ audio codec, and DAB+ can provide high quality audio with as low as 64kbit/s. Reception quality will also be more robust on DAB+ than on DAB due to the addition of Reed-Solomon error correction coding.

Australia, Italy, Malta and Switzerland have started transmitting DAB+ stations. Hungary is due to launch DAB+ stations in 2008 and Germany is planning to launch DAB+ in 2009. The radio industry in the UK is expecting DAB+ stations to launch between 2010 and 2013.

But I know nothing technical ~ ask anyone, they'll tell you 

[Barman]

I dunno. I'm bamboozled.  
Don't need all this. I luv anaoluge.

To say nothing of losing analogue radio in a few years time too.

I'm trying to figure out what DAB+ is  

An upgraded version of the DAB system was released in February 2007, which is called DAB+. DAB is not forward compatible with DAB+, which means that DAB-only receivers will not be able to receive DAB+ broadcasts. DAB+ is approximately twice as efficient as DAB due to the adoption of the AAC+ audio codec, and DAB+ can provide high quality audio with as low as 64kbit/s. Reception quality will also be more robust on DAB+ than on DAB due to the addition of Reed-Solomon error correction coding.

Australia, Italy, Malta and Switzerland have started transmitting DAB+ stations. Hungary is due to launch DAB+ stations in 2008 and Germany is planning to launch DAB+ in 2009. The radio industry in the UK is expecting DAB+ stations to launch between 2010 and 2013.

But I know nothing technical ~ ask anyone, they'll tell you 

An upgraded version of the system was released in February 2007, which is called DAB+. DAB is not forward compatible with DAB+, which means that DAB-only receivers will not be able to receive DAB+ broadcasts.[5] DAB+ is approximately twice as efficient as DAB due to the adoption of the AAC+ audio codec, and DAB+ can provide high quality audio with as low as 64kbit/s.[6] Reception quality will also be more robust on DAB+ than on DAB due to the addition of Reed-Solomon error correction coding.

Australia, Italy, Malta and Switzerland have started transmitting DAB+ stations. Hungary is due to launch DAB+ stations in 2008 and Germany is planning to launch DAB+ in 2009. The radio industry in the UK is expecting DAB+ stations to launch between 2010 and 2013.

 

[Pastis]

Hmmm. Yes.

And what's the reach of DAB, DAB+ ?  E.g. does it "drop off" off shore like FM which is why they use LW for shipping forecasts etc?

[Snoopy]

I dunno. I'm bamboozled.  
Don't need all this. I luv anaoluge.

To say nothing of losing analogue radio in a few years time too.

I'm trying to figure out what DAB+ is  

An upgraded version of the DAB system was released in February 2007, which is called DAB+. DAB is not forward compatible with DAB+, which means that DAB-only receivers will not be able to receive DAB+ broadcasts. DAB+ is approximately twice as efficient as DAB due to the adoption of the AAC+ audio codec, and DAB+ can provide high quality audio with as low as 64kbit/s. Reception quality will also be more robust on DAB+ than on DAB due to the addition of Reed-Solomon error correction coding.

Australia, Italy, Malta and Switzerland have started transmitting DAB+ stations. Hungary is due to launch DAB+ stations in 2008 and Germany is planning to launch DAB+ in 2009. The radio industry in the UK is expecting DAB+ stations to launch between 2010 and 2013.

But I know nothing technical ~ ask anyone, they'll tell you 

An upgraded version of the system was released in February 2007, which is called DAB+. DAB is not forward compatible with DAB+, which means that DAB-only receivers will not be able to receive DAB+ broadcasts.[5] DAB+ is approximately twice as efficient as DAB due to the adoption of the AAC+ audio codec, and DAB+ can provide high quality audio with as low as 64kbit/s.[6] Reception quality will also be more robust on DAB+ than on DAB due to the addition of Reed-Solomon error correction coding.

Australia, Italy, Malta and Switzerland have started transmitting DAB+ stations. Hungary is due to launch DAB+ stations in 2008 and Germany is planning to launch DAB+ in 2009. The radio industry in the UK is expecting DAB+ stations to launch between 2010 and 2013.

 

And your point is this time?