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« on: February 11, 2026, 10:45:39 AM »
So the largest archive of court documents in the country, an essential tool for transparency that has been used by over 1500 journalists, is being ordered to be deleted by the MOJ on the grounds of a data protection breach where information has been alleged to be passed on to a third party company. The government has not referred this to the Information Commissioner which would be standard practice in such a case nor have they responded to attempts by the company to engage in talks. They have simply ordered the deletion.

Now call me cynical but I can't help but wonder what they are trying to cover up this time.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/02/10/labour-courts-plan-grooming-gangs-scandal-secret/
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Re: Courtsdesk
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2026, 11:31:27 AM »
So the largest archive of court documents in the country, an essential tool for transparency that has been used by over 1500 journalists, is being ordered to be deleted by the MOJ on the grounds of a data protection breach where information has been alleged to be passed on to a third party company. The government has not referred this to the Information Commissioner which would be standard practice in such a case nor have they responded to attempts by the company to engage in talks. They have simply ordered the deletion.

Now call me cynical but I can't help but wonder what they are trying to cover up this time.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/02/10/labour-courts-plan-grooming-gangs-scandal-secret/



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Re: Courtsdesk
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2026, 04:45:41 PM »
The company concerned illegally sent restricted information to an AI service which is effectively posting it up on Tescos windows.

The DT etc could be adding 2 and 2 and making 22 here

https://www.legalcheek.com/2026/02/ministry-of-justice-orders-deletion-of-the-uks-largest-court-reporting-database/amp/

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Re: Courtsdesk
« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2026, 07:26:07 PM »
No, the government is claiming that is what happened, so why did the government refuse follow the usual procedure for cases like this and refer to the information commissioner? Not to mention ignoring the 16 attempts to contact  them made by the company. The system the government wants to replace it with has single figure accuracy and where two thirds of courts do not give advanced notice of court cases to journalists.

 
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Re: Courtsdesk
« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2026, 10:18:21 PM »
It's always best to consider cock-up theory before conspiracy theory

Worth reading https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2026-02-10/debates/037487A8-145D-44B0-AE56-37A1BBF5EE5E/CourtReportingData
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Re: Courtsdesk
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2026, 02:11:35 AM »
It may be a while since I worked in data and dialer management but while the the regulations have expanded they haven't changed that much and they can't have it both ways. At the start of Hansard Sackman is saying that the information shared with an AI company (not a marketing or data supply company which suggests this was to do wtih improving site functionality) potentially included personal data such as name, date of birth and address, but the wording also suggests that the information shared was the same information that was publicly available directly from the courts. Yet by the end of the document the she changes tack to state that personal date was shared, in which case they were legally obligated to contact the ICO within 72 hours of discovering the breach. Any Data Officer worth the title would have known that sharing personal data without authorisation more than crosses the threshold which makes this come across as a deliberate attempt to not involve the ICO. 

Hanlon's razor is all well and good but this is a level of incompetence that just comes across as suspicious.
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Re: Courtsdesk
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2026, 08:18:21 AM »
Seems the Shadow minister is unaware that we're talking about correlated personal data being given to the AI company, that the information commissioner role is about protecting release of information and the official records of trials are all online from the separate judiciary website. 

https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/
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