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Offline Grumpmeister

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Criminal negligence or something more sinister?
« on: August 10, 2019, 03:56:06 PM »
So Jeffrey Epstein was found dead in his cell earlier today having committed suicide apparently while still on suicide watch....  rubschin:

While I certainly won't mourn his passing I do see a problem here, when someone is on suicide watch they are stripped of anything that could do them harm and are placed into a bare cell with basic facilities. So just how was he able to kill himself? If he was taken off the watch following his previous attempt then why did that happen so quickly, there is no way that should happen after a couple of weeks under normal circumstances.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/10/us/jeffrey-epstein-death/index.html
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Re: Criminal negligence or something more sinister?
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2019, 09:28:36 PM »
He was taken off suicide watch after a week.  Apparently the earlier incident wasn't a suicide attempt but rather an attack bu others

Still a bit sus but maybe not as sus
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Re: Criminal negligence or something more sinister?
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2019, 10:10:47 PM »
Deffo sus rubschin:

Another potential embarrassment for the Royal Family resolved  whistle:
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Re: Criminal negligence or something more sinister?
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2019, 12:31:53 AM »
Quote from: Miss Demeanour on August 10, 2019, 10:10:47 PM
Deffo sus rubschin:

Another potential embarrassment for the Royal Family resolved  whistle:

Not to mention the Clintons...  whistle:
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Re: Criminal negligence or something more sinister?
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2019, 06:05:10 AM »
Shamelessly stolen from elsewhere...  redface:

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I must admit, Epstein’s suicide came as a bit of a surprise to me, but not half as much as it was for him.
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Re: Criminal negligence or something more sinister?
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2019, 05:01:13 PM »
Quote from: Grumpmeister on August 11, 2019, 12:31:53 AM
Quote from: Miss Demeanour on August 10, 2019, 10:10:47 PM
Deffo sus rubschin:

Another potential embarrassment for the Royal Family resolved  whistle:

Not to mention the Clintons...  whistle:
More like for Trump

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Re: Criminal negligence or something more sinister?
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2019, 05:57:02 PM »
Quote from: Barman on August 11, 2019, 06:05:10 AM
Shamelessly stolen from elsewhere...  redface:

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I must admit, Epstein’s suicide came as a bit of a surprise to me, but not half as much as it was for him.

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Re: Criminal negligence or something more sinister?
« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2019, 02:36:28 PM »
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Re: Criminal negligence or something more sinister?
« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2019, 09:49:32 AM »
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Re: Criminal negligence or something more sinister?
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2019, 11:05:33 AM »
All these latest revelations indicate that his death was cock-up rather than conspiracy because his death has revealed possibly criminal failings in the jail management they would very much want to have stayed hidden

Yes he was supposed to be checked every 30 minutes and wasn't but even if he had been it might well not have saved him as it takes well less than that to die of (self) strangulation

Should he have been on continuous suicide watch and regime?  Well yes of course we know that NOW but was it unreasonable to have taken him off such as his own attorney's request?  No

Some times bad things do happen without any conspiracy involved. 
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Re: Criminal negligence or something more sinister?
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2019, 09:26:35 PM »
Sales of popcorn in your household must be minimal  rubschin:

 Popcorn: Popcorn: Popcorn:
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Re: Criminal negligence or something more sinister?
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2019, 11:05:23 PM »
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Sales of popcorn in your household must be minimal  rubschin:

 Popcorn: Popcorn: Popcorn:
Certainly I don't swallow too many conspiracy theories. 
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Re: Criminal negligence or something more sinister?
« Reply #12 on: August 15, 2019, 03:30:55 AM »
Quote from: Miss Demeanour on August 14, 2019, 09:26:35 PM
Sales of popcorn in your household must be minimal  rubschin:

 Popcorn: Popcorn: Popcorn:

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Re: Criminal negligence or something more sinister?
« Reply #13 on: August 15, 2019, 11:56:44 PM »
The autopsy results are curious, given that he apparently tied the bedsheet to a bed and then leaned forward to commit suicide how do you manage to break multiple bones in your neck. Normal hanging I could see doing that kind of damage as your entire body weight would suddenly be held by the rope or whatever you have around your neck but not the way he is supposed to have used...  rubschin:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/15/us/jeffrey-epstein-autopsy-broken-neck/index.html   
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Re: Criminal negligence or something more sinister?
« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2019, 03:41:00 AM »
Quote from: Grumpmeister on August 15, 2019, 11:56:44 PM
The autopsy results are curious, given that he apparently tied the bedsheet to a bed and then leaned forward to commit suicide how do you manage to break multiple bones in your neck. Normal hanging I could see doing that kind of damage as your entire body weight would suddenly be held by the rope or whatever you have around your neck but not the way he is supposed to have used...  rubschin:

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/08/15/us/jeffrey-epstein-autopsy-broken-neck/index.html

It does seem odd...  rubschin:
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