Surely the question should be

[Barman]

So while out on probation for this drug addled arsehole decides to break into the house of an 87 year old widow, beat the hell out of her and try to smother her so he could help himself to whatever valuables he could find and he only gets 8 years? I'm sorry but if he is already on probation and has no problem with carrying out a violent attack on a pensioner (personally I don't believe the "I can't remember anything" excuse) then he doesn't deserve to be let out again.

Fair play to the grandmother for chasing after him with her late husband's sword though. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9218945/Grandmother-87-chases-thief-home-late-husbands-military-sword.html

There are soooooo many of these oh so soft sentencing stories... 

[Grumpmeister]

So while out on probation for this drug addled arsehole decides to break into the house of an 87 year old widow, beat the hell out of her and try to smother her so he could help himself to whatever valuables he could find and he only gets 8 years? I'm sorry but if he is already on probation and has no problem with carrying out a violent attack on a pensioner (personally I don't believe the "I can't remember anything" excuse) then he doesn't deserve to be let out again.

Fair play to the grandmother for chasing after him with her late husband's sword though. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9218945/Grandmother-87-chases-thief-home-late-husbands-military-sword.html

There are soooooo many of these oh so soft sentencing stories... 

I know and each time I've said that the situation will only change when the victim is either one of, or related to one of the great and good. 

[Barman]

So while out on probation for this drug addled arsehole decides to break into the house of an 87 year old widow, beat the hell out of her and try to smother her so he could help himself to whatever valuables he could find and he only gets 8 years? I'm sorry but if he is already on probation and has no problem with carrying out a violent attack on a pensioner (personally I don't believe the "I can't remember anything" excuse) then he doesn't deserve to be let out again.

Fair play to the grandmother for chasing after him with her late husband's sword though. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9218945/Grandmother-87-chases-thief-home-late-husbands-military-sword.html

There are soooooo many of these oh so soft sentencing stories... 

I know and each time I've said that the situation will only change when the victim is either one of, or related to one of the great and good. 

Precisely... 

[Steve]

So while out on probation for this drug addled arsehole decides to break into the house of an 87 year old widow, beat the hell out of her and try to smother her so he could help himself to whatever valuables he could find and he only gets 8 years? I'm sorry but if he is already on probation and has no problem with carrying out a violent attack on a pensioner (personally I don't believe the "I can't remember anything" excuse) then he doesn't deserve to be let out again.

Fair play to the grandmother for chasing after him with her late husband's sword though. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9218945/Grandmother-87-chases-thief-home-late-husbands-military-sword.html

And under auto remission he will only serve 4 years
 
And don't blame the judge, blame these fools:  https://www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk/sentencing-and-the-council/about-sentencing-guidelines/

[Uncle Mort]

I'm all for suspended sentences*































































* Provided it's by the neck 

[Barman]

I'm all for suspended sentences*































































* Provided it's by the neck