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Title: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Nick on April 20, 2018, 01:58:42 PM
80 folks coming  cloud9:  Including the pompous windbag Vince Cable  evil:

And 10 Hostiles from the DfE  scared2:

What can possibly go wrong?
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Miss Demeanour on April 20, 2018, 02:08:18 PM
They could take you seriously  scared2:
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Nick on April 20, 2018, 02:17:54 PM
 angel1
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Steve on April 20, 2018, 03:19:46 PM
80 folks coming  cloud9:  Including the pompous windbag Vince Cable  evil: . . .
You just could not make this up:

Vince Cable says https://twitter.com/vincecable/status/987308357999583232
Quote

@vincecable
3 hours ago

Visit to new @eelpiemuseum in #twickenham
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Nick on April 20, 2018, 03:25:38 PM
 Shocked:

I could give him an eel quiz  smile:  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Steve on April 20, 2018, 03:36:11 PM
Shocked:

I could give him an eel quiz  smile:  :thumbsup:
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Barman on April 20, 2018, 08:46:12 PM
They could take you seriously  scared2:

 drumroll:
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Grumpmeister on April 21, 2018, 01:46:44 AM
What can possibly go wrong?

Vince decides that he's found an kindred spirit, a mad elderly gent who can talk bollocks about eels...  whistle:
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: apc2010 on April 21, 2018, 07:34:48 AM
Shocked:

I could give him an eel quiz  smile:  :thumbsup:

Where is my prize ........ cussing:
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Nick on April 21, 2018, 07:42:14 AM
I disqualified you.
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: apc2010 on April 21, 2018, 07:47:15 AM
I disqualified you.

 eeek:

It's a fix ....



I live in a commonwealth country .......... cussing:
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Nick on April 21, 2018, 08:02:59 AM
YOu were deliberately trying to win by not answering any questions cussing: cussing: cussing:
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Uncle Mort on April 21, 2018, 08:05:56 AM
I'm a bit confused by all this banter.

What's the current question?
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Nick on April 21, 2018, 08:08:11 AM
4  cussing: cussing:
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Nick on April 24, 2018, 02:52:13 PM
A nice man from the Press wants to interview me  cloud9: angel1
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Steve on April 24, 2018, 03:02:37 PM
A nice man from the Press wants to interview me  cloud9: angel1
noooo: a nice man from the press?  You'll say there's fairies at the bottom of your garden next
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Nick on April 24, 2018, 03:03:59 PM
Known him for years. As a rule I NEVER trust journalists, but this one is OK  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Steve on April 24, 2018, 05:35:00 PM
Known him for years. As a rule I NEVER trust journalists, but this one is OK  :thumbsup:
:thumbsup: then
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Nick on April 24, 2018, 05:36:49 PM
And he owes me  eveilgrin:
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Steve on April 24, 2018, 05:54:27 PM
And he owes me  eveilgrin:
You helped him dispose of the body you say
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Nick on April 24, 2018, 05:59:03 PM
 angel1
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Nick on April 25, 2018, 02:47:34 PM
It's going through that complicated last minute phase  ::)

May need Miss D and her axe  whistle:
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Miss Demeanour on April 25, 2018, 04:38:45 PM
I have been to a Turkish Hamman all afternoon  and am now pulled and prodded and affiliated  into glorious heavenliness  !!!
I am not in axe wielding mode right now  cloud9:
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Nick on April 25, 2018, 05:34:16 PM
Can you give me a rub?  whistle:
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Steve on April 25, 2018, 06:38:28 PM
I have been to a Turkish Hamman all afternoon  and am now pulled and prodded and affiliated  into glorious heavenliness  !!!
I am not in axe wielding mode right now  cloud9:
WTF is a Turkish Hamman? . . . . . 

Me:"Mr Google WTF is a Turkish Hamman?"

Mr Google: "It's a Turkish Bath and it's spelt Hamam"

Me:  "Oh"

My ignorance is now reduced one notch

Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Nick on April 25, 2018, 06:41:11 PM
She likes being lathered by a big old Turkish bloke,  razz:
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Nick on May 01, 2018, 12:27:27 PM
It's getting a lot of coverage  angel1

https://www.aocjobs.com/article/secret-lecturer-a-game-changer-for-fe/?s=10&utm_source=News+Letter&utm_campaign=7bfb1edfec-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_17_04&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4244da32c2-7bfb1edfec-49018657 (https://www.aocjobs.com/article/secret-lecturer-a-game-changer-for-fe/?s=10&utm_source=News+Letter&utm_campaign=7bfb1edfec-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_17_04&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4244da32c2-7bfb1edfec-49018657)
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Steve on May 01, 2018, 12:31:45 PM
It's getting a lot of coverage  angel1

https://www.aocjobs.com/article/secret-lecturer-a-game-changer-for-fe/?s=10&utm_source=News+Letter&utm_campaign=7bfb1edfec-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_17_04&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4244da32c2-7bfb1edfec-49018657 (https://www.aocjobs.com/article/secret-lecturer-a-game-changer-for-fe/?s=10&utm_source=News+Letter&utm_campaign=7bfb1edfec-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_17_04&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_4244da32c2-7bfb1edfec-49018657)
"Solve the issue, donít cure the symptom"  noooo:

You have to do both
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Nick on May 01, 2018, 12:35:29 PM
The central argument is that the people are focussing on the symptoms and not their causes. We use medical analogies. Most of the ills in the education system as a whole are the products of systemic failure caused largely by mad political interference. Remove those and the symptoms disappear.  angel1
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Steve on May 01, 2018, 01:16:33 PM
The central argument is that the people are focussing on the symptoms and not their causes. We use medical analogies. Most of the ills in the education system as a whole are the products of systemic failure caused largely by mad political interference. Remove those and the symptoms disappear.  angel1
Yes but a 'don't cure the symtoms' stance just becomes a root cause for more issues

How would you like it if you turn up to a doctors appointment and they say "well yes I could prescribe X to cure your symptoms but surely my time would be better employed looking at addressing the root causes of poor health"?

You'd be tempted to smack them in the mouth
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Nick on May 01, 2018, 01:17:34 PM
I can send you a link to the full report if you want  whistle:
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Steve on May 01, 2018, 01:25:36 PM
I can send you a link to the full report if you want  whistle:
fine but does that also have that "donít cure the symptom" idiocy
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Nick on May 01, 2018, 01:29:29 PM
 cussing: cussing:
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Grumpmeister on May 01, 2018, 02:06:53 PM
I can send you a link to the full report if you want  whistle:
fine but does that also have that "donít cure the symptom" idiocy

I honestly think that the first realistic step in fixing this, and similar problems across the rest of the essential services that are being run into the ground is to have a cabinet made up of people with relevant experience and qualifications as opposed to either sycophants who have been rewarded for toeing the line or those who have been given the post because nobody else can be found to fill it. This at least gives us a chance of seeing policies put into place because they will do some good rather than grab headlines or give the impression of competence.
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Nick on May 01, 2018, 02:10:16 PM
Zackly  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: My WESTMINSTER Conference
Post by: Steve on May 01, 2018, 02:32:16 PM
The central argument is that the people are focussing on the symptoms and not their causes. We use medical analogies. Most of the ills in the education system as a whole are the products of systemic failure caused largely by mad political interference. Remove those and the symptoms disappear.  angel1
I say again you have to act on both

A key root cause of issues in education is that every new politician in the role thinks that they have to make their mark by changing the system usually placing extra burdens on the educators and rarely giving a tinkers cuss about the students.  Gove was a prime example of this.

Quite like the idea of some sort of independent body but the devil would be in the detail of actually making such work