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Title: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Pastis on February 21, 2011, 01:08:43 PM

Surely, since 2001, they have enough information on each one of us to compile a census without going to all the bother, expense etc of yet another one? After all who really wants to know how many Jedi Knights there are in the UK?
A waste of time and money   noooo:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Snoopy on February 21, 2011, 02:12:06 PM

Not to future students of genealogy it isn't  evil:

With so few people having their children baptised and many couples not bothering to get married these days there are few other records that are accessible to anyone trying to track a family tree. The census only started in 1841 and has been taken every ten years since in most countries. To get back beyond 1841 one has to trawl parish records as these are the only reliable source of Births, Marriages and Deaths (Registration, by the State, of these events only became compulsory in 1838) Given the number of parishes there were (and still are) this is a difficult undertaking without the invaluable information of family's locations, birthplaces, ages and relationships that the census records contain. It has taken me some 15 years to get back to the 1540's on both my Mother's and my Father's side of the tree via Parish Records, many of which are still held in the churches/chapels etc. The bit from me back to 1841 was the work of a few days on the internet. The rest of the time was entirely reliant on parish records, gravestones and manorial rolls.

OK that may be a selfish reason on my part but Nectar Card records (and similar) would not be of much use to anyone tracing their family tho' if the records of these and their use are kept they may be useful to social historians.

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Nick on February 21, 2011, 04:11:11 PM

But we would know an awful lot about your Bonio intake  angel1

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Snoopy on February 21, 2011, 04:34:15 PM

Oh Noes ~ I don't have a "Nectar Card" or any other sort of points/info gathering card.

I work on the Groucho Marx principle:
"I don't want to belong to any club that would have me"  razz:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Nick on February 21, 2011, 04:35:27 PM

But you do online shopping  whistle:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Snoopy on February 21, 2011, 04:40:51 PM

Indeed I do .... but not in my name  whistle:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Nick on March 08, 2011, 12:43:03 PM

Well my form has arrived  eveilgrin:

I know opinion is sharply divided about this. I have used census data myself for werk purposes (and I buy the genealogy argument) but I am also increasingly aware of the dangers of  databases and distrust the Government more and more by the day. I shall fill the form in (unlike many of the Poles and RUssians who seem to live in nearby flats) but will put in some tactical inaccuracies (which many will do by mistake or through stupidity).

Anyone have any good sub v ersive ideas (yes, yes, Jedi and stuff  ::))?

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Barman on March 08, 2011, 12:48:32 PM

Quote from: Nick on March 08, 2011, 12:43:03 PM

Well my form has arrived  eveilgrin:

I know opinion is sharply divided about this. I have used census data myself for werk purposes (and I buy the genealogy argument) but I am also increasingly aware of the dangers of  databases and distrust the Government more and more by the day. I shall fill the form in (unlike many of the Poles and RUssians who seem to live in nearby flats) but will put in some tactical inaccuracies (which many will do by mistake or through stupidity).

Anyone have any good sub v ersive ideas (yes, yes, Jedi and stuff  ::))?

Leg-Iron had some good stuff on it a while back...

It all relates to The Day doesn't it...?

So if your bedroom was turned into a office on The Day then you have no bedrooms, that sort of thing... all perfectly legal...

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Nick on March 08, 2011, 12:49:41 PM

 rubschin:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Barman on March 08, 2011, 01:02:24 PM

Here (http://underdogsbiteupwards.blogspot.com/2011/02/all-hail-rolled-god.html)

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on March 08, 2011, 01:21:47 PM

Excellent.  lol: lol:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Nick on March 08, 2011, 01:29:15 PM

 eveilgrin:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Miss Demeanour on March 08, 2011, 01:34:56 PM

Local authorities grants allocation from central government is also heavily based on these stats which is why they invest so much resource in trying to ensure they get completed forms.

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Nick on March 08, 2011, 01:36:11 PM

Must be a nightmare in London. My Battersea tenants are in Oz at the moment  whistle:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Snoopy on March 08, 2011, 02:00:21 PM

Curiously Local Government Officers are not so dumb as to have failed to allow for such deviations.

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Nick on March 08, 2011, 02:05:25 PM

I may do mine online  whistle: whistle:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Nick on March 08, 2011, 03:05:15 PM

Is self employed butcher bad and wrong? In conjunction with "werk from home"?  scared2:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Miss Demeanour on March 08, 2011, 03:16:33 PM

So you are a agoraphobic self harmer then ?

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Nick on March 08, 2011, 03:26:18 PM

Jim does the butchering, but there is no box for him on the census  noooo:

Why is that then?

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Grumpmeister on March 08, 2011, 06:57:17 PM

Why make stuff up Nick, just put in that you are a walking disaster area living with an imaginary cat and see the reaction you get.  lol:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Tipsy Gipsy on March 08, 2011, 08:56:12 PM

I dont know what I am doing on the 27th so I filled it in tonight.   redface:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Nick on March 08, 2011, 08:58:54 PM

I doubt you know what you are doing tonight  noooo:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on March 09, 2011, 01:32:12 PM

Ours arrived today....let the fun commence.

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Miss Demeanour on March 09, 2011, 01:41:23 PM

Done it online yesterday.

Filled in as Miss Demeanor - it is my name after all  whistle:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Uncle Mort on March 09, 2011, 06:25:26 PM

Quote from: Miss Demeanor on March 09, 2011, 01:41:23 PM

Done it online yesterday.

"Please complete your census questionnaire on 27 March 2011, or as soon as possible afterwards"
 rubschin:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Nick on March 09, 2011, 06:29:47 PM

Moi aussi. Off you go Unc!

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Uncle Mort on March 09, 2011, 06:36:46 PM

Just looked at the first question.

Please define "usually" as in "Who usually lives here?"

Now where do my children usually live?

Sunday and Monday night they're at their mum's. Other nights here. After school Tuesdays through to Friday they go to Mum then here. Saturday and half of Sunday here. I shall have to consult with the ex.   rubschin:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Nick on March 09, 2011, 06:43:36 PM

You could mention Latvian au pair twins  eyes:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Uncle Mort on March 09, 2011, 06:57:57 PM

That'll be the 2011 Fantasy Census then.

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Nick on March 16, 2011, 09:54:29 AM

http://underdogsbiteupwards.blogspot.com/2011/03/census-wench-visits.html (http://underdogsbiteupwards.blogspot.com/2011/03/census-wench-visits.html)
 razz:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Snoopy on March 16, 2011, 11:17:41 AM

Quote from: Nick on March 16, 2011, 09:54:29 AM

http://underdogsbiteupwards.blogspot.com/2011/03/census-wench-visits.html (http://underdogsbiteupwards.blogspot.com/2011/03/census-wench-visits.html)
 razz:

 lol: lol: lol:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Pastis on March 19, 2011, 07:27:24 PM

OK, so ...

Question 17! Why?  Question 17! Why?

 scared2: scared2: scared2:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Snoopy on March 19, 2011, 07:39:02 PM

Quote from: Pastis on March 19, 2011, 07:27:24 PM

OK, so ...

Question 17! Why?  Question 17! Why?

 scared2: scared2: scared2:

Welsh Language Act!

Teaching in Wales or any Government Job (even local gov) Police, Ambulance, Nursing etc requires that the employee is bi-lingual by the year 2020 .... the original target was 2012 but it "slipped".... anywhoo they are trying to find out just how many people can actually speak it as the WAG want money to spend on teaching everyone the bloody lingo and the answers to that question will give a measure of just how much it is likely to cost.

Fear not Pastis .... it will never happen!

The more No answers the better eveilgrin: eveilgrin:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Miss Demeanour on March 19, 2011, 10:58:07 PM

Quote from: Pastis on March 19, 2011, 07:27:24 PM

OK, so ...

Question 17! Why?  Question 17! Why?

 scared2: scared2: scared2:

Fill it in online ...you don't get a question 17 then

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Barman on March 23, 2011, 05:49:53 AM

Snoopy fills his Census form in....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LWi8ueBHZ8

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Snoopy on March 23, 2011, 06:10:48 AM

I did think about telling them "The dog ate mine"  razz:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Miss Demeanour on March 31, 2011, 09:20:05 AM

Filled my form in some time ago on line.

1st shitty reminder letter received today stating I am a non response , need to fill in or I will be hunted down and killed kinda thing  ::). So ring up the call centre , go through sixty thousand options , none of which allow you to speak to an actchewal personage until you stick with it.

Gonk comes on the phone and then checks records...oh yes we have received your details , just ignore our letters he says , we have some data matching issues

How inspiring  noooo: noooo: noooo:

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: Snoopy on March 31, 2011, 09:33:37 AM

Fvck me! They're quick off the mark. If completed on Sunday night/Monday morning (it is supposed to be an accurate record of who spent the night at your house) and you had posted it on Monday the Royal Mail would never have got it to them in time for them to start chasing and to get a letter back to you by today.

So their issue is that they have sent the wrong letter to those who responded early.

Gives you little faith in any conclusions and forecasts they may make based on the census answers.

Title: Re: The Census ~ 2011
Post by: beerhead on April 01, 2011, 09:27:00 AM

They shouldn't start chasing anybody until 6th April. And when it is all finished someone else will knock on your door- A survey about the census, apparently