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Come Inside... => Saloon Bar => Topic started by: GROWLER on July 21, 2007, 10:13:44 PM
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Thought they'd been a bit quiet.
Just goes to show. Good news isn't news at all. ::)
http://www.environment-agency.gov.uk/subjects/waterres/1014767/1131486/?lang=_e
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I'm glad you bubbled them, I was beginning to worry that it might be the wrong sort of water.
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It makes you laugh doesn't it? ::)
It was only 7 months ago that South East Water, or whatever they're called, were moaning about under ground water levels being at their lowest for hundreds of years, river beds dried up for ever, Great crested newts fast disappearing because of dried up ponds etc.
All dramatic stuff, and that things will probably never recover. eeek:
Hindsight would be of great benefit at times like that wouldn't it? happy001
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Funny isn't it? I have heard more than enough lately about global warming, but not a word about the global wetting!
Can't we export some of it to Australia? Or arrange a swap with Saudi for some oil maybe...
Then I can trade my wet feet for leaving my TV on all night! cloud9:
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Apparently, the good people of Tewksbury and Gloucester are likely to run out of water by mid afternoon, the waterworks in both places are flooded.
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Apparently, the good people of Tewksbury and Gloucester are likely to run out of water by mid afternoon, the waterworks in both places are flooded.
happy001
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The Met Office says this is all quite normal eeek:
All part of the strange and little understood climate cycles apparently.
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The Met Office says this is all quite normal eeek:
All part of the strange and little understood climate cycles apparently.
That's not what they were saying last week. evil:
It looks like the Weather Service is getting to be much better at telling us what has happened rather than their day job of warning us of what is coming.
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Well I've just been swamped out of my ocean by a most horrendous storm.
I can't get a full days work in the place at the moment, and I'm getting pretty damned wicked off about it.
Get home and the bloody sun is shining now. evil:
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Where is all the foreign aid and help that the UK give when their's a disaster abroad?
Here we have thousands being made homeless, emergency services that are now struggling to cope, and have we had ANY offer of help for at least pumping equipment and sandbags from our so called friends and neighbours distant and far?
No. I didn't think so. ::)
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The thing that annoys me is that once again the weather is ?unprecedented? and the consequences ?impossible? to predict but we?ve all seen these bizarre weather patterns before?
The flood levels are ?the same as 1947? according to Sky news last night so they?ve basically had sixty years to prepare for this disaster and have done jack-shit about it except implement evacuation plans to move the elderly to the local football club and provide them with food and drink.
Incompetent government warns about climate change, does jack shit about the consequences and promises to built 3m new homes all in one breath ? you really couldn?t make it up could you?
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We aren't allowed to drink from our taps either. Our plant has been flooded too. sad24:
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We aren't allowed to drink from our taps either. Our plant has been flooded too. sad24:
Did you have to switch to the booze then? whistle:
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Unprecedented means it has never happened before, which is simply untrue.
I remember severe flooding across the UK for days on end. and it was on TV so it wasn't THAT long ago!
I've been here before, I've watched land that hitherto has been unaffected by flooding become inundated to the surprise of everyone concerned, and yet one only has to consider the effect of civilisation has on the ground infrastructure to realise that water flow has changed significantly and flooding has become inevitable.
As population levels rise upstream then water disposal becomes a problem for them, and so in a usual human reaction they improve the drainage to disperse the waters from their locale and once achieved, care no more about it.
Trouble is, that given enough upstream places doing that, causes excess water to arrive downstream very much quicker than it used to do, owing to the much improved drainage. The result is all the extra water arriving downstream at the same time causing flooding, it is so simple that a child could work it out. So how come it hasn't become obvious to the government planners?
The obvious answer is - it must be, but they have decided to take no action as that would cost money better spent in Iraq, and it can always be written off as acts of god. They are also lined up for a fair increase in income by taxes with all the money that has to be spent to make reparations and inflated insurance premiums all round, so I suppose there is little motivation when it's not actually raining.
I didn't get flooded - this time - but I know that I'll end up paying my share of the damage.
My advice is to pay attention to where the movers and shakers choose to live and avoid the areas they are leaving behind. That's their answer to the problem. evil:
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We aren't allowed to drink from our taps either. Our plant has been flooded too. sad24:
Same here - Sutton & East Surrey water have advised us to boil all water before use. Before we managed to get a general message out to the 330 or so in my building, some had drunk the water from the vending machines and - staggeringly - all feel a bit "iffy" now, so have had to go home...
I'm not taking any chances, so have been on the beer just to make sure there is sufficient alcohol in my stream to kill any bugs...
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We aren't allowed to drink from our taps either. Our plant has been flooded too. sad24:
I'm not taking any chances, so have been on the beer
eeek: Bloody hell fire. Bet that was shock for your system ey? ;)
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We aren't allowed to drink from our taps either. Our plant has been flooded too. sad24:
I'm not taking any chances, so have been on the beer
eeek: Bloody hell fire. Bet that was shock for your system ey? ;)
One has to make sacrifices to ensure the health of the lovely totty workers here... whistle:
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We aren't allowed to drink from our taps either. Our plant has been flooded too. sad24:
Same here - Sutton & East Surrey water have advised us to boil all water before use. Before we managed to get a general message out to the 330 or so in my building, some had drunk the water from the vending machines and - staggeringly - all feel a bit "iffy" now, so have had to go home...
I'm not taking any chances, so have been on the beer just to make sure there is sufficient alcohol in my stream to kill any bugs...
My sister phoned yesterday to warn us, but Mrs Tel forgot to tell me. It's been like it since Friday but so far nothing much has been said. Website says it is the plant at Cheam and also has a list of post-codes affected.
http://www.waterplc.com/WaterPlc/news/info-main.asp
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We aren't allowed to drink from our taps either. Our plant has been flooded too. sad24:
Same here - Sutton & East Surrey water have advised us to boil all water before use. Before we managed to get a general message out to the 330 or so in my building, some had drunk the water from the vending machines and - staggeringly - all feel a bit "iffy" now, so have had to go home...
I'm not taking any chances, so have been on the beer just to make sure there is sufficient alcohol in my stream to kill any bugs...
My sister phoned yesterday to warn us, but Mrs Tel forgot to tell me. It's been like it since Friday but so far nothing much has been said. Website says it is the plant at Cheam and also has a list of post-codes affected.
http://www.waterplc.com/WaterPlc/news/info-main.asp
This morning, that link listed by postcode - we were affected. If you now type your postcode in it, it says it "is not recognised as being within the affected area of supply". So they're talking bollox. Again. Probably.
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What I find interesting is that plant was flooded on Friday. Why on earth has it taken them this long to get round to telling us!
Local supermarkets all sold out of water by the time we found out!
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Unprecedented means it has never happened before, which is simply untrue.
I remember severe flooding across the UK for days on end. and it was on TV so it wasn't THAT long ago!
I've been here before, I've watched land that hitherto has been unaffected by flooding become inundated to the surprise of everyone concerned, and yet one only has to consider the effect of civilisation has on the ground infrastructure to realise that water flow has changed significantly and flooding has become inevitable.
As population levels rise upstream then water disposal becomes a problem for them, and so in a usual human reaction they improve the drainage to disperse the waters from their locale and once achieved, care no more about it.
Trouble is, that given enough upstream places doing that, causes excess water to arrive downstream very much quicker than it used to do, owing to the much improved drainage. The result is all the extra water arriving downstream at the same time causing flooding, it is so simple that a child could work it out. So how come it hasn't become obvious to the government planners?
The obvious answer is - it must be, but they have decided to take no action as that would cost money better spent in Iraq, and it can always be written off as acts of god. They are also lined up for a fair increase in income by taxes with all the money that has to be spent to make reparations and inflated insurance premiums all round, so I suppose there is little motivation when it's not actually raining.
I didn't get flooded - this time - but I know that I'll end up paying my share of the damage.
My advice is to pay attention to where the movers and shakers choose to live and avoid the areas they are leaving behind. That's their answer to the problem. evil:
Agree.
We used to live in Maidenhead which flooded regularly?
The ?solution? was a multi-million Pound flood relief scheme which took all the water directly to Windsor downstream which now floods instead.
You won?t believe this bit tho ? brace yourselves ? the flood relief channel was dug across some of the most productive gravel bearing soil of the country, all of which was previously unavailable because of green belt designations. What a bizarre remarkable coincidence eh?
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Unprecedented means it has never happened before, which is simply untrue.
I remember severe flooding across the UK for days on end. and it was on TV so it wasn't THAT long ago!
I've been here before, I've watched land that hitherto has been unaffected by flooding become inundated to the surprise of everyone concerned, and yet one only has to consider the effect of civilisation has on the ground infrastructure to realise that water flow has changed significantly and flooding has become inevitable.
As population levels rise upstream then water disposal becomes a problem for them, and so in a usual human reaction they improve the drainage to disperse the waters from their locale and once achieved, care no more about it.
Trouble is, that given enough upstream places doing that, causes excess water to arrive downstream very much quicker than it used to do, owing to the much improved drainage. The result is all the extra water arriving downstream at the same time causing flooding, it is so simple that a child could work it out. So how come it hasn't become obvious to the government planners?
The obvious answer is - it must be, but they have decided to take no action as that would cost money better spent in Iraq, and it can always be written off as acts of god. They are also lined up for a fair increase in income by taxes with all the money that has to be spent to make reparations and inflated insurance premiums all round, so I suppose there is little motivation when it's not actually raining.
I didn't get flooded - this time - but I know that I'll end up paying my share of the damage.
My advice is to pay attention to where the movers and shakers choose to live and avoid the areas they are leaving behind. That's their answer to the problem. evil:
Agree.
We used to live in Maidenhead which flooded regularly?
The ?solution? was a multi-million Pound flood relief scheme which took all the water directly to Windsor downstream which now floods instead.
You won?t believe this bit tho ? brace yourselves ? the flood relief channel was dug across some of the most productive gravel bearing soil of the country, all of which was previously unavailable because of green belt designations. What a bizarre remarkable coincidence eh?
If you believe in coincidence yes it is indeed remarkable .... so remarkable as to suggest that some council members might have coincidental relatives who were, coincidently, in the gravel extraction business.
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I am not surprised! Whenever we have a problem, someone else makes a fortune. Banghead
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That was a very quiet 'woof' there Snoopy - What did you say?
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The question that keeps coming back to my mind is ~ How did Tony Blair know this was about to happen?
Poor old Gordon .... I almost felt sorry for him trying to say the right words when he "toured" the flooded areas. Tony would have had a sob in his voice and looked as if he was choking back the tears. He'd have called it "The People's Flood" and invoke the Good Lord on our behalf. Gordon on the other hand just looked and sounded shifty.
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That was a very quiet 'woof' there Snoopy - What did you say?
Hit the wrong tit in my eagerness ~ have corrected the problem with a quick edit. redface:
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"The People's Flood"
happy001 that's very naughty, but happy001
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The question that keeps coming back to my mind is ~ How did Tony Blair know this was about to happen?
Poor old Gordon .... I almost felt sorry for him trying to say the right words when he "toured" the flooded areas. Tony would have had a sob in his voice and looked as if he was choking back the tears. He'd have called it "The People's Flood" and invoke the Good Lord on our behalf. Gordon on the other hand just looked and sounded shifty.
Excellent!
I was thinking earlier what a farce it was that Gordo was there anyway ?to see for himself? when we can all see the extent of the flooding by switching on the telly with round-the-clock news coverage. Having the PM there can be nothing more than an expensive inconvenience when they need all resources, including helicopters that are available to sort out the obvious problems?
Yet you can guarantee that if he had stayed at home and watched it on the telly there would have been uproar ? one of the few things that the media and opposition would have actually expressed some angst over.
Strange world?
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On that point alone I have some sympathy for his dilemma, I would bet good money that given his choice he wouldn't have gone anywhere near water.
Being Scottish that would, no doubt, include his whiskey! ::)
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Pedant alert : whiskey is from Ireland (northern) whereas whisky is the bad Scottish impression thereof.
Bushmills = good, everything else = not good.
OK?
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The question that keeps coming back to my mind is ~ How did Tony Blair know this was about to happen?
Because he has his finger on the button of the diabloical weather machine that's why.
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Pedant alert : whiskey is from Ireland (northern) whereas whisky is the bad Scottish impression thereof.
Bushmills = good, everything else = not good.
OK?
My subject matter is imposters today - hadn't you noticed?
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On that point alone I have some sympathy for his dilemma, I would bet good money that given his choice he wouldn't have gone anywhere near water.
Being Scottish that would, no doubt, include his whiskey! ::)
On the radio this morning they were complaining that he hadn?t got around very much? ::)
Still as was pointed out I did see him on the TV last night making a complete arse of himself? lol:
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When will Bob Geldof, Sting or Bono launch Flood Aid UK concert? Keen enough when other countries need help/they need publicity. (Only joking - I know our situation doesn't compare to world disasters)
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I wondered last night just how many media helicopters there were covering the flooding? Certainly Sky and the BBC seem to have an endless supply of ?from the air? pictures and commentary so that?s at least two and I suspect that ITV and other foreign agencies have aircraft up too?
I can?t help thinking that, just like the PM?s visit, this is an unnecessary burden on the emergency services at a time like this. It can?t be fun for the air sea rescue pilots and air traffic controllers in the area to have to be aware of and provide separation from formations of news helicopters.
Why can?t news crews be ?attached? to an air sea rescue helicopter or have a designated news helicopter that provides feeds for all of the news agencies?
We have the same thing in the latest famine-struck area of Africa or third-world disaster zone. They always need more helicopters and food is scarce yet here we have the well-fed BBC reporter and his entire back-up team flying over the area to take pictures?
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I wondered last night just how many media helicopters there were covering the flooding? Certainly Sky and the BBC seem to have an endless supply of ‘from the air’ pictures and commentary so that’s at least two and I suspect that ITV and other foreign agencies have aircraft up too…
I can’t help thinking that, just like the PM’s visit, this is an unnecessary burden on the emergency services at a time like this. It can’t be fun for the air sea rescue pilots and air traffic controllers in the area to have to be aware of and provide separation from formations of news helicopters.
Why can’t news crews be ‘attached’ to an air sea rescue helicopter or have a designated news helicopter that provides feeds for all of the news agencies?
We have the same thing in the latest famine-struck area of Africa or third-world disaster zone. They always need more helicopters and food is scarce yet here we have the well-fed BBC reporter and his entire back-up team flying over the area to take pictures…
It's not as if we don't know by now what water covered fields looks like ~ or for that matter fly covered African children. ::)
Personally I'm more concerned about my child being bullied at a school that is in denial that they have a bullying problem. I am more concerned about the pain in my back, I am more concerned about the fact that it has taken two weeks to remove my kitchen ceiling, identify and cure a leak from the shower room above it and replace the ceiling. They still cannot decorate it until Monday which will make it three weeks that the kitchen has been hors de combat. I am more concerned that the people who are supposed to be fitting a new boiler are still dicking about with regulations and that the local authority are now arguing with the Welsh Assembly that the Regulations that came into force in January do not apply in Wales or Scotland. The WAG agrees with me that the regs do not apply but the local "official" says they do.
These are all battles that I must fight ~ I can do nothing for Gloucester, Tewksbury or Oxford and Reading They have my sympathy but at the end of the day I have to point out these people made a choice to live there and elected the arses that are letting them down.
So BBC let's have a Helicopter over Denbighshire County Hall and thrusting interviews of the Chief Executive or the arse of a Building Control Officer by Paxman. Let Humphries loose on the local headteacher. Get a camera crew round to the builders acting for my insurance company and doorstep the MD with a few searching questions from Huw Edwards.
I am a pissed off beagle today angry037
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I wondered last night just how many media helicopters there were covering the flooding? Certainly Sky and the BBC seem to have an endless supply of ?from the air? pictures and commentary so that?s at least two and I suspect that ITV and other foreign agencies have aircraft up too?
I can?t help thinking that, just like the PM?s visit, this is an unnecessary burden on the emergency services at a time like this. It can?t be fun for the air sea rescue pilots and air traffic controllers in the area to have to be aware of and provide separation from formations of news helicopters.
Why can?t news crews be ?attached? to an air sea rescue helicopter or have a designated news helicopter that provides feeds for all of the news agencies?
We have the same thing in the latest famine-struck area of Africa or third-world disaster zone. They always need more helicopters and food is scarce yet here we have the well-fed BBC reporter and his entire back-up team flying over the area to take pictures?
I am a pissed off beagle today angry037
Normal sort of mode then ey?
I'm a bit of a pissed off bear too, and I'm getting mighty pissed off with the following message 8/10 when I want to quote:
An Error Has Occurred!
Session verification failed. Please try logging out and back in again, and then try again.
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Oh, and it's pissing down here YET again....FFS! evil:
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As the little Asian kid in the old Billy Bunter TV series would have said:
"The pissed offness today is indeed terrific".
What was that character's name? ~ probably very non PC these days
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The Beagle has the right of it. Yes, the people affected by the floods have their problems but they're getting help and most seem fairly good-natured about their trials and tribulations. They don't need the media circus descending on them, asking them daft questions most of which have blindingly obvious answers.
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Just caught the very last bit of an interview on the news with some Asian geezer, loading his people carrier up with many bottles of water.
He didn't seem too happy about being critisised but didn't catch the whole story.
What was that all about then, as if I couldn't take a fairly accurate guess? ::)
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The Beagle has the right of it. Yes, the people affected by the floods have their problems but they're getting help and most seem fairly good-natured about their trials and tribulations. They don't need the media circus descending on them, asking them daft questions most of which have blindingly obvious answers.
You have mentioned the one really good thing about being British. The stoic and defiant nature that either ignores disaster or laughs at it.
If you can't do that - you ain't really British in my opinion.
For a fair chunk of my life I have seen people whizzing around in circles screaming, whilst the Brits just sit down and moan about it over a cup of tea and a laugh.
It is, I think, the only reason I am still here. But it is being slowly erased by the compo culture. cry:
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it is being slowly erased by the compo culture. cry:
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Between you and Snoopy - you're gonna wear Google out confused:
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I don't know if it is the compensation culture that is eroding our stoic nature but something sure is.
Maybe it's this rising desire to be a 'celebrity' because a lot of the wailing and gnashing of teeth I see in other cultures seems to be more of a wish to be noticed rather than true fear or grief. A sort of 'look at me, I'm really suffering here'
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I don't know if it is the compensation culture that is eroding our stoic nature but something sure is.
Maybe it's this rising desire to be a 'celebrity' because a lot of the wailing and gnashing of teeth I see in other cultures seems to be more of a wish to be noticed rather than true fear or grief. A sort of 'look at me, I'm really suffering here'
DO NOT get me started on the "Keening" over dead relatives that "Muslims" get themselves into and is shown so regularly on TV. If that isn't play acting I don't know what is. And Why BBC Why do we need to see it over and over again? It's tragic, we know that, move on and cover other stories ~ there's plenty of news that you don't ever tell us about.
And it's not just them ~ look at the performance of grief put on for that Brazilian shot by the Met. All those cousins etc screaming and bawling ~ they probably seldom if ever saw the man ~ I'd lay money some had never even met him.
I can understand anyone's mother being pissed off that her child has been shot. But Cousins, Uncle, Aunties ..... all false grief, all looking for a share in the compensation.
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DO NOT get me started on the "Keening" over dead relatives that "Muslims" get themselves into and is shown so regularly on TV. If that isn't play acting I don't know what is. And Why BBC Why do we need to see it over and over again? It's tragic, we know that, move on and cover other stories ~ there's plenty of news that you don't ever tell us about.
And it's not just them ~ look at the performance of grief put on for that Brazilian shot by the Met. All those cousins etc screaming and bawling ~ they probably seldom if ever saw the man ~ I'd lay money some had never even met him.
I can understand anyone's mother being pissed off that her child has been shot. But Cousins, Uncle, Aunties ..... all false grief, all looking for a share in the compensation.
They are probably just upset at the benefits they are going to lose.