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Title: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on June 28, 2010, 09:38:14 PM
In a message to Belgian bishops, the pope expressed solidarity "in this moment of sadness".

Several buildings were searched in raids targeting a retired archbishop and the graves of two prelates.
Pope Benedict has joined mounting Vatican criticism of raids by Belgian police investigating alleged child sex abuse, calling them "deplorable".

Belgium's justice minister has responded to the criticism robustly, saying normal procedures were followed.

Stefaan De Clerck defended the police action, in a series of TV interviews on Sunday, and said the investigation was legitimate.

"The bishops were treated completely normally during the raid on the archdiocese and it is false to say that they received no food or drink," he said.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/10427935.stm

As far as I am concerned this is an investigation into child abuse.  Not something new to the Catholic church.  If the Pope finds this investigation into child abuse 'deplorable' IMHO he is condoning the act. Great message from the church. With holding food and drink from a couple of priests, (if in fact it actually happened and even if it did we should dis believe and/or ignore it for at least twenty years in keeping with the church) is appalling but it's OK to bugger little boys.  I am sure that all of the children that were abused had more than a 'moment of sadness' and probably many moments of horror, terror and degradation... Where is that Dawkins petition calling for him to be arrested when he touches down here.  I want to sign...
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Pastis on June 28, 2010, 09:46:14 PM
I know this is somewhat tangential to your point but the feeling I had whilst listening echoed your sentiments:


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On my rather long train journey (thank you SouthWest Trains  ::) ) to friends in Surrey yesterday I was listening to a programme about castration  eeek:

Thousands of young boys were bought up by the Church in the 17th and 18thC on the pretext of a better education in fine schools only to find that their lords and masters were keen on giving them the complete snip, thereby condemning them to a brief life as a castrati followed by either destitution, prostitution or both. A miniscule  percentage actually made a name for themselves, became wealthy and allegedly were rather sought after in court  eyes: eyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqUoCD_-gp0
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Grumpmeister on June 28, 2010, 10:07:23 PM
Lets not forget that this is the same Ratzinger who as defender of the faith threatened excommunication to any member of the clergy who assisted with an external child abuse investigation.
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on June 28, 2010, 10:19:35 PM
Quite so Grumpmeister but he has said sorry for Ireland so that's OK then. noooo:

http://www.facebook.com/search/?post_form_id=fc4b03891374fc151f3601bf85be1545&q=support%20dawkins%20and%20hitchens%20to%20arrest%20the%20pope&init=quick&ref=search_loaded

This is the link to the petition.

Pastis there was an article about this on radio $ not so  long ago sad but fascinating. redface:
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Grumpmeister on June 28, 2010, 10:53:46 PM
The website link on the petitiion page is....interesting.
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Nick on June 29, 2010, 06:57:07 AM
The Vatican statements are breathtaking  noooo:  Has anyone else noticed that they are having a big investigation in Ireland. All the investigators are, um, priests.  cussing:
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Nick on July 01, 2010, 02:13:27 PM
Ridicule can be a powerful weapon  redface:

http://www.theonion.com/articles/pope-vows-to-get-church-pedophilia-down-to-accepta,17201/ (http://www.theonion.com/articles/pope-vows-to-get-church-pedophilia-down-to-accepta,17201/)
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on July 01, 2010, 04:17:17 PM
Brilliant. lol: lol:
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Barman on July 01, 2010, 05:11:01 PM
Ridicule can be a powerful weapon  redface:


You should know!  point:
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: The Moan Ranger on July 01, 2010, 05:52:42 PM
Someone was adamant that "ridicule is nothing to be scared of"...
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Miss Demeanour on July 01, 2010, 06:19:17 PM
 drumroll:
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: The Moan Ranger on July 01, 2010, 06:23:40 PM
drumroll:

I thank you. I knew it would be you - same sort of young age as me  cloud9:
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Miss Demeanour on July 01, 2010, 06:25:00 PM
Ah the new romantics......good years 8) 8) 8)
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: The Moan Ranger on July 01, 2010, 06:30:39 PM
Ah the new romantics......good years 8) 8) 8)

Indeed, although I was a rebel who liked this stuff:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G65AnQrR5MY

And no, I haven't grown out of it yet...blokes never do.
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on July 01, 2010, 07:26:57 PM
Oh dear you youngsters. noooo:
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Uncle Mort on July 01, 2010, 07:31:00 PM
Indeed Miss C, indeed.
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: The Moan Ranger on July 01, 2010, 07:39:46 PM
Indeed Miss C, indeed.

Gawd, we've upset the Sanatogen Army  scared2:
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Nick on July 01, 2010, 07:40:35 PM
 evil:
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Miss Demeanour on July 01, 2010, 08:06:43 PM
Indeed Miss C, indeed.

Gawd, we've upset the Sanatogen Army  scared2:

Isn't it past their bedtime  whistle:
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Uncle Mort on July 01, 2010, 08:11:26 PM
Oi! watch it young miss.
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: The Moan Ranger on July 01, 2010, 08:16:11 PM
Indeed Miss C, indeed.

Gawd, we've upset the Sanatogen Army  scared2:

Isn't it past their bedtime  whistle:

Indeed, Miss D, indeed...
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 01, 2010, 08:16:21 PM
Oi! watch it young miss.

Quite so.  evil:
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: The Moan Ranger on July 01, 2010, 08:19:42 PM
A song from their youth, to remind them...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzZHmHqEE7k

Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Nick on July 01, 2010, 08:27:43 PM
 cloud9: cloud9:

I think DS is more of a Lonnie Donegan man
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on July 01, 2010, 09:35:49 PM
We aged ones have our moments, we just can't remember them. confused:
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Nick on July 01, 2010, 09:39:51 PM
Who are you?
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Grumpmeister on July 02, 2010, 12:18:21 AM
Indeed Miss C, indeed.

Gawd, we've upset the Sanatogen Army  scared2:

Isn't it past their bedtime  whistle:

Are you sure its wise to poke fun at the VP chapter of Hell's Rotarians Miss D?  whistle:
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Miss Demeanour on July 02, 2010, 07:22:45 AM
I'm sure that the  VP pecking order will dictate that those beneath me will treat me with equal respect  lol:
Title: Re: Pope condones child abuse.
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 02, 2010, 10:35:28 AM
cloud9: cloud9:

I think DS is more of a Lonnie Donegan man

Glenn Miller you mean