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Title: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on June 11, 2010, 10:09:23 AM
Growler Jnr. has (verbally) provisionally been offered a temporay full time job (covering maternity leave until at least October) at Chester Zoo Horticultural dept.
To be confirmed next Thursday, which is his last day of job experience there too.

Needless to say,we're all extatic for him (apart from MM who never gets excited about anything for her brother) and he is justifiably over the moon, well at least until October anyway.

He's worked damned hard, even going in to work for nothing voluntarily (as he's been doing once a week since last October) during half term.
The great thing is that he gets on really well with the rest of the gang in there and actually loves ferreting around amongst all the trees bushes and stuff.
Has to go into the animal enclosures sometimes too. Talks to the chimps and stuff, Absolute bliss and I'm a tad jealouse tbh. Even started driving the sit on lawn mower now too, lucky bugger!
Tractors and tipper wagons now beckon.

Just hope this gerl decides her new sprog is more inportant than werk, or it's going to be tears in October. cry:
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Barman on June 11, 2010, 10:23:18 AM
Excellent news!

I'm sure, once they realise how well he is doing they won't want to let him go in October...  noooo:
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on June 11, 2010, 10:29:00 AM
Excellent news!

I'm sure, once they realise how well he is doing they won't want to let him go in October...  noooo:

One of the staff was recently sacked for being off on the sick too regulary, so they are actually one dowm so to speak, but of course, 'cutbacks' etc will deem it a blessing in disguise now no doubt for the management.

Still, monster size development plans for the Zoo are well under way. so even if he can't stay after October, they'll have to be looking for more staff in a year ir two to help manage the new 'Dome'.
Going to be simlar but much much bigger than that place down in Cornwall apparently.
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Snoopy on June 11, 2010, 10:34:33 AM
Quote
Chester Zoo Unveils Ambitious Development Plans

Chester Zoo unveiled an ambitious plan for massive development this week. The zoo intends to spend ?225 million on becoming the largest conservation, animal and leisure attraction of its kind in Europe.

Natural Vision, as the project is currently known, will begin with the creation of the only domed ecosystem in the UK. The dome, to be called 'Heart of Africa' will be an African rainforest themed home for a band of gorillas, a troop of chimps, okapi and a variety of tropical birds, reptiles, amphibians, fish and invertebrates all of whom will move freely around the biodome.

Planning permission for first phase which includes the biodome, a 90-bed hotel, a conservation college and a revamped main entrance will be sought later this year.
http://www.chesterzoo-holidays.co.uk/news/chester-zoo-unveils-ambitious-development-plans.html

Count not your planning consent until it is granted ~ there are many who are opposed and with Government restrictions on spending it may be a long time off happening.

Quote
CHESTER Zoo has dropped plans for a second hotel as part of its massive redevelopment scheme, following objections from residents.

The revised plans for its Natural Vision project have been sent to Cheshire West and Chester Council and follow a continued period of consultation with local councillors and residents.

Proposals for a garden/plant centre and second hotel on land near to the park and ride at the zoo entrance have been removed from the application.

However, the application for a 150-bed themed hotel on land near the A41 will remain.
http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-news/regional-news/2010/05/28/chester-zoo-drops-second-hotel-plan-after-residents-objections-92534-26539200/
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Uncle Mort on June 11, 2010, 10:38:34 AM
Excellent news Growler.  happy088

No doubt the start of a fine career.
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Miss Demeanour on June 11, 2010, 10:39:30 AM
Good on him, well done - hope they find a way of ensuring they keep him .
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Nick on June 11, 2010, 10:44:49 AM
Can he get an 'ut in the bear enclosure?
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Snoopy on June 11, 2010, 10:53:22 AM
Do they have a bear enclosure?

http://www.chesterzoo-holidays.co.uk/zoo-attractions/animals.html#content
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Nick on June 11, 2010, 10:54:09 AM
They could get one. For breeding purposes like  eveilgrin:
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Just One More on June 11, 2010, 01:38:51 PM
Great news Growler. It's about four years since I last visited Chester Zoo. The gardens were lovely (OK, lots of bedding plants, so not exactly my kind of gardens), but superbly kept and a credit to the team
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on June 11, 2010, 04:39:14 PM
Excellent news Growler I wish you all well.
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Darwins Selection on June 11, 2010, 04:43:49 PM
Well done the cub!

Sounds like he has found his niche, so many don't these days.
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on June 11, 2010, 05:09:28 PM
Do they have a bear enclosure?

http://www.chesterzoo-holidays.co.uk/zoo-attractions/animals.html#content

Oh yes. cloud9:

(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.postimage.org%2FcZGGr.jpg&hash=0d59088a9a36d9e88948d33532f70323766167c9) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxcZGGr)

Spectacle Bears. Gorgeous and reasonably friendly....bit like me in fact.  cloud9:
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Tipsy Gipsy on June 11, 2010, 08:02:16 PM
Good news.  I wish him well.  It is a great help when you know which area you are happy working in.  An excellent foundation to start building a career from I think. angel1
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on July 07, 2010, 09:16:20 AM
Proceedures.  ::)

This matter still hasn't been concluded, but it will be today.

He was told that due to normal proceedures, he'd have to go through an interview regardless, but they'd leave it until after his holiday.
Today at 11:00 is the day and time. scared2:

We have been priming him what to and what not to say and ask.
The next 1.5 hours could be mapping out the rest of his life here. eeek:

He isn't the best in these situations, and tends to say things that aren't appropriate sometimes.
Ask his auntie for instance.
Rang her up on Monday to thank her for a c/q that she gave him for his 18 th birthday.
When asked what other pressies he'd received, he said, "oh yes, my Uncle (her brother) gave me a c/q for £50"
Fine, but the c/q SHE sent him was for half that value.

Myself and Mrs G were left squirming with embarrasment on his behalf, but he really couldn't see what the problem was. redface:
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Uncle Mort on July 07, 2010, 09:22:35 AM
<fingers crossed>
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on July 07, 2010, 09:23:52 AM
<fingers crossed>

Absolutely.

He's apparently  going to ask them when they're going to teach him how to drive the tractor. eeek:
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on July 07, 2010, 09:24:58 AM
Quick anyone.Suggestions! He's going in ten mins.
What should he ask?
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 07, 2010, 09:29:31 AM
Quick anyone.Suggestions! He's going in ten mins.
What should he ask?

What are my prospects for the future if I do well?



Good luck the cub
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on July 07, 2010, 09:37:20 AM
Yup. He's got that one amongst his list.

He's gone. scared2:
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on July 07, 2010, 10:39:26 AM
Fingers crossed. A nervous hour or so for you then Growler...More so for the cub tho.
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Miss Demeanour on July 07, 2010, 11:18:41 AM
We'll keep all our digits crossed for him. He deserves it and would be excellent at it - lets hope they can see that
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on July 07, 2010, 11:58:38 AM
Successful.  cloud9:

Never in much doubt tbh, seeing as he was the only candidate, but you never know until it's confirmed.

Just waiting for the actual letter, and he'll probably have to go for a medical too.

Starts on a 6 month full time contract to cover maternity leave in about two weeks time.
Just hope summat crops up in the meanwhile to turn this into a permanent post.
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Pastis on July 07, 2010, 12:00:32 PM
 happ096
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Uncle Mort on July 07, 2010, 12:09:11 PM
Excellent news Growler! send him my congratulations like.

Whether it becomes permanent or not it's a good start on the career ladder and something for the CV.
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Snoopy on July 07, 2010, 12:27:24 PM
I was once asked what salary I expected

I replied
 "That depends on how badly you want me, you know what I can do for you, make me an offer"

I got the job at £7k more than the advertised salary.
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Nick on July 07, 2010, 02:38:16 PM
Jolly good news
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on July 07, 2010, 02:40:55 PM
Excellent news well done that cub. Party001:
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Just One More on July 07, 2010, 04:53:48 PM
Great stuff Growler.Well done the boy, and mum and dad too for giving him the confidence

I can still remember getting my first pay packet, £17.46 in my grubby mitt on 10.07.1975. I suppose these days it goes straight in the bank, not the same feeling
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Snoopy on July 07, 2010, 05:45:10 PM
Great stuff Growler.Well done the boy, and mum and dad too for giving him the confidence

I can still remember getting my first pay packet, £17.46 in my grubby mitt on 10.07.1975. I suppose these days it goes straight in the bank, not the same feeling

Are you really that much younger than me  eeek:
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Tipsy Gipsy on July 07, 2010, 05:48:22 PM
Well done all.  A pat on the back all round.  drumroll:
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on July 07, 2010, 05:54:31 PM
Apparently, the horticultural dept. that he's going to work for, have got to get a reference....from the amenities dept. next door that he still actually works for part time. lol:
Proceedure apparently. ::)

Still, I suppose it shows that they do things properly at the zoo, rather than some simple and shifty back door dropsie shinanigans, cash in 'and like type stuff, wink wink.

We're all thrilled for the bear jnr., as we have spent years worrying about where and how he's going to fit into any employment environment, being a bit quiet and shy like...like me in fact.
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Just One More on July 07, 2010, 06:48:00 PM
Great stuff Growler.Well done the boy, and mum and dad too for giving him the confidence

I can still remember getting my first pay packet, £17.46 in my grubby mitt on 10.07.1975. I suppose these days it goes straight in the bank, not the same feeling

Are you really that much younger than me  eeek:

51, but I was ill as a child, does time in hospital count?  ;D
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 08, 2010, 04:50:04 PM
Sorry, I have been out today.

Congratulations young Growler.





How much will his rent be now old bear?  ;)
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on July 08, 2010, 09:37:10 PM
Sorry, I have been out today.

Congratulations young Growler.





How much will his rent be now old bear?  ;)

THAT bridge will have to be crossed soon. scared2:
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Snoopy on July 09, 2010, 08:22:29 AM
Well a starting point in the calculation is the loss to the family purse of Child Benefit that he attracted (if he is the "first" child then it is about £20 per week) and that he now no longer qualifies for. Then you need to calculate his travel costs, lunch money (unless Mrs G is packing him up sandwiches) and other expenses that he has to meet (Clothes, union fees, and the like) 

When my older ones reached this stage we set out two columns of figures.
What they cost us and what they had to spend simply to go to work, buy their own clothes etc. These two are then added together and subtracted from the net income he will receive. You can then strike a balance about how much of the remainder he may have to spend as he wishes and how much he should save.
Roughly, as far as I recall, it worked out that 25% of his net pay was handed to his mother and he got the rest. This in no way covered our costs of him living at home but it was a start in making him accept that life is not free.

I never looked to make a profit but they have to accept that a contribution is expected. Living at home is still cheaper than getting a place of their own. I found it useful at this stage to demonstrate just how much housing them costs. If there are four in the house simply take 25% of all fixed costs i.e. those that have to be paid: Rent/Mortgage, Water Rates, Electricity, Gas, Council Tax etc etc. This is their share. It usually is a real eye opener to them. Of course you cannot expect them to pay 25% of all your housing costs and the really smartarsed ones will always argue that if you have a mortgage then you get the profit when you sell the house. My counter to that was that any profit would be their inheritance (That shut the argument down quickly) but a basic understanding of life's realities is no bad thing when they start earning.
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on July 26, 2010, 06:27:38 PM
Growler jnr. finally  started his long trudge on the tread mill today.
Thouroughly enjoyed it seemingly.

He took CAKE  cloud9: in for everyone, as a sort of hello offering, but didn't bring any home for me. ::)
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Nick on July 26, 2010, 07:02:45 PM
Have you said that it's one day down and 50 years to go, like?
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on July 26, 2010, 09:58:59 PM
Have you said that it's one day down and 50 years to go, like?

Didn't know you knew his faceache addy. eeek:
46 years 364 days to go before retirement is what I wrote.
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Nick on July 26, 2010, 10:00:07 PM
Nope
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on July 26, 2010, 10:23:31 PM
Nope

Well how did you know that's what I said then? confused:
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Nick on July 26, 2010, 10:28:11 PM
I know these things. I am sure it cheered him up no end.
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on July 26, 2010, 10:29:31 PM
I know these things. I am sure it cheered him up no end.

It diodn't.
He just shouted down, ha bloody ha at me. ::)
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Nick on July 26, 2010, 10:33:19 PM
 happy100
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on August 03, 2010, 09:50:07 AM
Well the feelings of security joy and happiness didn't last too long.

The wumman that's on maternity leave, whose job Growler Jnr is now doing, turned up yetserday to announce that she WILL be back in early January.
However, she only wants to werk 3 days a week, and her husband apparently wants that to be only 2.
So I suppose the good news is that she seemingly at this moment ain't coming back full time, so that may mean creating a new post for a part timer, thus enabling G jnr to carry on in his full time role.
Shared job is another possibility. Not ideal, but better than the dole.

Whatever the legalities of that and the ensuing mamangement/personnel discussions on that matter, we'll now have a pensive and anxious G Jnr. pacing up and down like one of the Lions of the zoo awaiting a decision.

We've all advised him to take the anxious look of his face, and to knuckle down and impress the gaffers with his hard werk and willingness.
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Barman on August 03, 2010, 09:52:10 AM

We've all advised him to take the anxious look of his face, and to knuckle down and impress the gaffers with his hard werk and willingness.

Sage werds like...
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Nick on August 03, 2010, 09:52:42 AM
And how is MM getting on as a chambermaid?  eyes:
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on August 03, 2010, 10:02:57 AM
And how is MM getting on as a chambermaid?  eyes:

Dunno wtf the  eyes: is all about tbqath, but yes, fine thank you.
Hard graft cleaning up after scruffy selfish sheeples. evil:
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on August 03, 2010, 10:06:06 AM
Any 'ow.
Any experts on employment law in here that can dechiper exactly where the wumman stands regarding requesting coming back part time instead of resuming her full time post? rubschin:
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Barman on August 03, 2010, 10:08:42 AM
Any 'ow.
Any experts on employment law in here that can dechiper exactly where the wumman stands regarding requesting coming back part time instead of resuming her full time post? rubschin:

I'm not an expert but I think as the law stands she can do anything she bleeding well likes.... or part thereof...
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on August 03, 2010, 10:22:22 AM
Any 'ow.
Any experts on employment law in here that can dechiper exactly where the wumman stands regarding requesting coming back part time instead of resuming her full time post? rubschin:

I'm not an expert but I think as the law stands she can do anything she bleeding well likes.... or part thereof...

I suspect you may be right. ::)
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Darwins Selection on August 03, 2010, 11:00:44 AM
Any 'ow.
Any experts on employment law in here that can dechiper exactly where the wumman stands regarding requesting coming back part time instead of resuming her full time post? rubschin:

I'm not an expert but I think as the law stands she can do anything she bleeding well likes.... or part thereof...

I suspect you may be right. ::)

Sadly, I think he is  noooo:
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on August 15, 2010, 09:26:21 PM
One happy Bear Cub here tonight. happy088
He drove a tractor and tipping trailer for the first time today. cloud9:
Don't actually think he's talked about anything else since he got home tbh. lol:

DS will be proud.


Oh, and MM has got an interview on Wednesday for G jnr's old vacant post.

I'm going to ask if he can get me a job in there too with the Spectacled Bears. cloud9:
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on August 18, 2010, 10:01:03 AM
One happy Bear Cub here tonight. happy088
He drove a tractor and tipping trailer for the first time today. cloud9:
Don't actually think he's talked about anything else since he got home tbh. lol:

DS will be proud.


Oh, and MM has got an interview on Wednesday for G jnr's old vacant post.

I'm going to ask if he can get me a job in there too with the Spectacled Bears. cloud9:


2 in the zoo as from tomorrow. happy088
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Uncle Mort on August 18, 2010, 10:02:54 AM
 happ096
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Nick on August 18, 2010, 10:05:28 AM
One happy Bear Cub here tonight. happy088
He drove a tractor and tipping trailer for the first time today. cloud9:
Don't actually think he's talked about anything else since he got home tbh. lol:

DS will be proud.


Oh, and MM has got an interview on Wednesday for G jnr's old vacant post.

I'm going to ask if he can get me a job in there too with the Spectacled Bears. cloud9:


2 in the zoo as from tomorrow. happy088

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3jXMsfLxhI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3jXMsfLxhI)
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on August 18, 2010, 10:07:52 AM
happ096

Bloody amazing.
2 interviews within 2 weeks, and she gets both jobs! eeek:

She must have inherited my overwhelming charm and charisma. whistle:

Just wish my bessy mate and a couple in here could have the same fortune.
Hate seeing these folk getting all stressed out with the sheer frustration of getting nowhere, and running around in circles. Banghead

Ageism is alive and kicking. No doubt about it at all in my mind. Angry9:
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Snoopy on August 18, 2010, 11:42:41 AM
Quote
National Minimum Wage rates

From October 2010, National Minimum Wage rates will increase from:

    * £5.80 to £5.93 an hour for workers aged 21 and over
    * £4.83 to £4.92 an hour for workers aged 18 to 20
    * £3.57 to £3.64 an hour for workers aged 16 to 17

The rise is around the two per cent mark in each category. As promised, the government has extended the adult minimum wage rate to 21-year-olds from October 2010. Previously the qualifying age for the National Minimum Wage was


Which has a lot to do with employment prospects for older jobseekers..
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: barmisspah? on August 18, 2010, 12:08:14 PM
Great news
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Just One More on August 18, 2010, 05:16:59 PM
Great news Growler  happy088
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: Nick on August 18, 2010, 05:20:14 PM
Praps they can smuggle some wildlife out, like. Bear cubs. Or a surprise snake.
Title: Re: Good news at last for the Growler household!
Post by: GROWLER on August 19, 2010, 05:25:08 PM
Praps they can smuggle some wildlife out, like. Bear cubs. Or a surprise snake.

She can smuggle this new little hunny out for me. cloud9:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3KgWXhfrvg

1st day and thouroughly enjoyed it apparently.