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Title: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Nick on July 10, 2007, 12:35:28 PM
For complex reasons we are investigating sending The Boy to a private school. We happen to have a large one next door to us and I went there earlier.

Christ on a bike. The difference. Comfy sofas and real coffee. Fab facilities. Classes of 8-11 kids rather than the 30 + normal in state system.

Fabulous building (stained glass windows in the canteen!)

Delightful staff

Wonderful library.

Pistol shooting range scared2:

Specialist teachers for everything.

Every child streamed FOR EACH SUBJECT!!

Tennis courts

Swimming pool

It is a different world and is an object lesson in the social class divide. Even the Boy picked up on the atmosphere and shook hands with everyone with a sort of slight bow. He has declared it to be "posh" and desperately want to go there.

I am still stunned.

?6000 a year cry: cry: I shall be packing in the ciggies (wrote fags but though better of it!)

And (opportunity for DS) they will help out by offering The Boy an "Organ Scholarship" (wait for it) since he really does play the organ........

We are meant to be looking at other State schools this week, but I an't gonna bovver.

Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Bar Wench on July 10, 2007, 12:37:11 PM
I wouldn't. If you can afford it then I wouldn't even think about sending him to state. As soon as I pop a sprog out Mr Wench will be looking at jobs in private schools so that they can go for free.
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Nick on July 10, 2007, 12:39:46 PM
Quote
As soon as I pop a sprog
Worrying thought.

I have worked in one way or t'other in State Education for years but this was a revelation! Mrs Nick is going there on Thursday and I have told her that once she sees it she will be bowled over too. Very unfair though.

And afford it? Will be a struggle but the Organ Scholarship will help (come on DS!)
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Grumpmeister on July 10, 2007, 12:41:33 PM
Pistol shooting range scared2:

Errr are you sure that the boy and firearms is a good mix?  scared:


Barman, can you order some bullet proof furniture please
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Nick on July 10, 2007, 12:44:44 PM
They wear ear muffs, so that should be OK noooo:
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 10, 2007, 01:12:13 PM
And afford it? Will be a struggle but the Organ Scholarship will help (come on DS!)

They probably meant the Captain mOrgan Scholarship for promising pirates.

If you can afford it, and ?6000 sounds very reasonable, I would not hesitate in your position.
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: ice and a slice on July 10, 2007, 01:18:41 PM
No question - just do it! 
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Snoopy on July 10, 2007, 01:19:57 PM
No contest.
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 10, 2007, 01:25:22 PM
?6000 sounds very reasonable

I just checked my old school.

Fees are now ?8275  redface:   Per term
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Nick on July 10, 2007, 01:27:56 PM
Borstal then?
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 10, 2007, 01:28:35 PM
Approved
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Nick on July 10, 2007, 01:31:44 PM
What were you in for?
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 10, 2007, 01:32:23 PM
What were you in for?
Life
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Nick on July 10, 2007, 01:43:52 PM
Oh, for being alive. I see! eyes:
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Landlady on July 10, 2007, 01:46:19 PM
Our one and only sprog went to a very small local junior school for around 2 years - initially very good and then we had a bleeding heart (in her mind not her body) headmistress arrive and wow what a change for the worst! Suddenly we were told we had to STOP  cussing: helping her with her reading and writing outside of school hours (she wanted to I assure you as I'm not one of those flash card from baby in the womb ambitious type of mums I can assure you) AND  Banghead because she was a tad bright (must take after Barman eh  ::)) she wouldn't be allowed to have additional work given at school to strech her BUT he expected to WAIT for everyone else to catch up.........................!!!!!

Not a tough decision for us to look to change schools then and like you we investigated the fee paying options - found a nice one (based on what the kids appeared to be like on our viewing mostly - happy, polite etc etc) in Windsor and prepared ourselves for the next few years of being partially brasick  cry:

She stayed there until 11 and then took her common entrance exam because we'd been doing our research meantime and found to be a marvellous non fee paying Catholic school (sorry the religion bit always creeps in somewhere doesn't it) and once we'd convinced the mafia (sorry Nun's) that despite not being 'C' ourselves we didnt sacrifice chickens or burn black candles EVERY night she was accepted.

Stayed there until 18 and left us for Univille.............

You really do need to do your research and shop around and then go with your gut feel on what's best for your childand you - Not saying that ALL fee paying schools are good (I do know some bad ones) nor that all state schools are bad either - but times have changed no doubt about that and education service are not what they were.

Mind you after all that have to say I failed my 11+  in the old system and then ended up going to a crap(ish) state school myself - oh those were the salad days weren't ??????      
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Bar Wench on July 10, 2007, 01:47:26 PM
What were you in for?

Probably for badly executed puns or looking down ladies tops.
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Nick on July 10, 2007, 01:50:04 PM
I think his puns are OK
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Nick on July 10, 2007, 01:50:58 PM
Our one and only sprog went to a very small local junior school for around 2 years - initially very good and then we had a bleeding heart (in her mind not her body) headmistress arrive and wow what a change for the worst! Suddenly we were told we had to STOP  cussing: helping her with her reading and writing outside of school hours (she wanted to I assure you as I'm not one of those flash card from baby in the womb ambitious type of mums I can assure you) AND  Banghead because she was a tad bright (must take after Barman eh  ::)) she wouldn't be allowed to have additional work given at school to strech her BUT he expected to WAIT for everyone else to catch up.........................!!!!!

Not a tough decision for us to look to change schools then and like you we investigated the fee paying options - found a nice one (based on what the kids appeared to be like on our viewing mostly - happy, polite etc etc) in Windsor and prepared ourselves for the next few years of being partially brasick  cry:

She stayed there until 11 and then took her common entrance exam because we'd been doing our research meantime and found to be a marvellous non fee paying Catholic school (sorry the religion bit always creeps in somewhere doesn't it) and once we'd convinced the mafia (sorry Nun's) that despite not being 'C' ourselves we didnt sacrifice chickens or burn black candles EVERY night she was accepted.

Stayed there until 18 and left us for Univille.............

You really do need to do your research and shop around and then go with your gut feel on what's best for your childand you - Not saying that ALL fee paying schools are good (I do know some bad ones) nor that all state schools are bad either - but times have changed no doubt about that and education service are not what they were.

Mind you after all that have to say I failed my 11+  in the old system and then ended up going to a crap(ish) state school myself - oh those were the salad days weren't ??????      


Don't talk to me about nuns or Catholic schools Banghead Banghead
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Bar Wench on July 10, 2007, 01:52:29 PM
I think his puns are OK

Small things please small minds.  point:
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Nick on July 10, 2007, 01:53:01 PM
-44
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Snoopy on July 10, 2007, 02:06:14 PM
I think his puns are OK

Small things please small minds.  point:

Are we still talking about DS's puns or his penchant for peering at your bust?
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Bar Wench on July 10, 2007, 02:06:44 PM
Both are wrong.  evil:
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Snoopy on July 10, 2007, 02:07:50 PM
Our one and only sprog went to a very small local junior school for around 2 years - initially very good and then we had a bleeding heart (in her mind not her body) headmistress arrive and wow what a change for the worst! Suddenly we were told we had to STOP  cussing: helping her with her reading and writing outside of school hours (she wanted to I assure you as I'm not one of those flash card from baby in the womb ambitious type of mums I can assure you) AND  Banghead because she was a tad bright (must take after Barman eh  ::)) she wouldn't be allowed to have additional work given at school to strech her BUT he expected to WAIT for everyone else to catch up.........................!!!!!

Not a tough decision for us to look to change schools then and like you we investigated the fee paying options - found a nice one (based on what the kids appeared to be like on our viewing mostly - happy, polite etc etc) in Windsor and prepared ourselves for the next few years of being partially brasick  cry:

She stayed there until 11 and then took her common entrance exam because we'd been doing our research meantime and found to be a marvellous non fee paying Catholic school (sorry the religion bit always creeps in somewhere doesn't it) and once we'd convinced the mafia (sorry Nun's) that despite not being 'C' ourselves we didnt sacrifice chickens or burn black candles EVERY night she was accepted.

Stayed there until 18 and left us for Univille.............

You really do need to do your research and shop around and then go with your gut feel on what's best for your childand you - Not saying that ALL fee paying schools are good (I do know some bad ones) nor that all state schools are bad either - but times have changed no doubt about that and education service are not what they were.

Mind you after all that have to say I failed my 11+  in the old system and then ended up going to a crap(ish) state school myself - oh those were the salad days weren't ??????     


Yeah ~ Know wot yer mean ~ I couldn't stand the dinners either! sick2:
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Snoopy on July 10, 2007, 02:08:38 PM
Both are wrong.  evil:

Oh I agree 100% Very Very Wrong ~ pleasurable ~ BUT very wrong
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Bar Wench on July 10, 2007, 02:09:16 PM
Both are wrong.  evil:

Oh I agree 100% Very Very Wrong ~ pleasurable ~ BUT very wrong

No not pleasurable!  cussing:
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Landlady on July 10, 2007, 02:09:28 PM
Don't talk to me about nuns or Catholic schools Banghead Banghead

You don't like penguins - why? Very funny to watch at the zoo! Good at catching fish and swimming.
Plus the sound of music is a classic !!! In fact, oh no, I feel a burst of song coming on - trill commecing ''The hills are alive, blah blah blah blah blah blah''
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Snoopy on July 10, 2007, 02:14:09 PM
One hestitates to be pedantic ~ particularly with the Landlady but ..... it is BORACIC (as in antiseptic) not Brasick.
Rhyming slang Boracic Lint = Skint



Sorry sometimes I just can't help it. redface:
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Landlady on July 10, 2007, 02:19:46 PM
One hestitates to be pedantic ~ particularly with the Landlady but ..... it is BORACIC (as in antiseptic) not Brasick.
Rhyming slang Boracic Lint = Skint

Sorry sometimes I just can't help it. redface:

Sorry nope you wrong - I was correct.

We was soooooooooo poor after paying the school fee's we only had a tin of Brasso to live on and then that made us sick - so we were Brasick  lol:
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Snoopy on July 10, 2007, 03:19:03 PM
 rubschin: My considered response is  bs:
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Barman on July 10, 2007, 03:22:46 PM
rubschin: My considered response is  bs:
Very wise...  noooo:
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Snoopy on July 10, 2007, 03:24:22 PM
  8)
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 10, 2007, 03:26:46 PM
Both are wrong.  evil:

Are they different sizes then?

I wouldn't know as I never looked. angel1

Anyhoo, what's all this 'have a go at Darwin day' from you young Wench?

I don't remember ogling or mocking you today (apart from your menopausal choice of colour in kitchen equipment).

If I were at all a sensitive soul, I could be very hurt. sad32:
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Bar Wench on July 10, 2007, 03:31:40 PM
Sorry.  redface: Many apologies. Was feeling like a delicate little flower who had been trampled on.
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Barman on July 10, 2007, 03:34:21 PM
Both are wrong.  evil:
Anyhoo, what's all this 'have a go at Darwin day' from you young Wench?
Painters prolly ? this could be the first one for the powder room?  ::)
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Bar Wench on July 10, 2007, 03:37:38 PM
Both are wrong.  evil:
Anyhoo, what's all this 'have a go at Darwin day' from you young Wench?
Painters prolly ? this could be the first one for the powder room?  ::)


sex014
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Nick on July 10, 2007, 03:46:18 PM
What is this thread about? evil:
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Bar Wench on July 10, 2007, 03:50:51 PM
 shrugs:
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Barman on July 10, 2007, 03:51:05 PM
Both are wrong.  evil:
Anyhoo, what's all this 'have a go at Darwin day' from you young Wench?
Painters prolly ? this could be the first one for the powder room?  ::)


sex014
I?ll get the nice nurses onto you!  cussing:
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Barman on July 10, 2007, 03:52:45 PM
What is this thread about? evil:
What are any of them about?  whistle:
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Grumpmeister on July 10, 2007, 03:55:35 PM
Don't talk to me about nuns or Catholic schools Banghead Banghead

You don't like penguins - why? Very funny to watch at the zoo! Good at catching fish and swimming.
Plus the sound of music is a classic !!! In fact, oh no, I feel a burst of song coming on - trill commecing ''The hills are alive, blah blah blah blah blah blah''


 thatsit: Thank you VERY much, way back in the mists of time an ex of mine had a past in a production of that musical somehow managing to get a singing part despite sounding like a distressed hyena. I've now got her catawauling stuck in my head again :lalalala
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Landlady on July 10, 2007, 08:21:16 PM
Don't talk to me about nuns or Catholic schools Banghead Banghead

You don't like penguins - why? Very funny to watch at the zoo! Good at catching fish and swimming.
Plus the sound of music is a classic !!! In fact, oh no, I feel a burst of song coming on - trill commecing ''The hills are alive, blah blah blah blah blah blah''


 thatsit: Thank you VERY much, way back in the mists of time an ex of mine had a past in a production of that musical somehow managing to get a singing part despite sounding like a distressed hyena. I've now got her catawauling stuck in my head again :lalalala


So so soooooooooooo very pleased to be of help  ;D

All together now

''Doe a deer a female deer, ray a drop of golden sun (not that your're getting any in England - tee hee), Me a name I call myself (when I'm so pissed I've forgotten my real one) Far a long long way to run (oh how you wish you could, how you wish you could),  Sew a needle pulling thread (not that these threads are in any way needle pulling, they couldn't hold anything together me thinks, talk about easily distracted), La  :lalalala   , Tea the jolly British tonic (for those not up to Bishops Finger) that will bring us back to Doe etc etc etc etc etc etc

No okay, hold yourself's back my friends I am being deafened by your tumultuous appreciation  happ096

I thank you, I thank you  razz:
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: ice and a slice on July 10, 2007, 08:28:27 PM
Don't talk to me about nuns or Catholic schools Banghead Banghead

You don't like penguins - why? Very funny to watch at the zoo! Good at catching fish and swimming.
Plus the sound of music is a classic !!! In fact, oh no, I feel a burst of song coming on - trill commecing ''The hills are alive, blah blah blah blah blah blah''


 thatsit: Thank you VERY much, way back in the mists of time an ex of mine had a past in a production of that musical somehow managing to get a singing part despite sounding like a distressed hyena. I've now got her catawauling stuck in my head again :lalalala


So so soooooooooooo very pleased to be of help  ;D

All together now

''Doe a deer a female deer, ray a drop of golden sun (not that your're getting any in England - tee hee), Me a name I call myself (when I'm so pissed I've forgotten my real one) Far a long long way to run (oh how you wish you could, how you wish you could),  Sew a needle pulling thread (not that these threads are in any way needle pulling, they couldn't hold anything together me thinks, talk about easily distracted), La  :lalalala   , Tea the jolly British tonic (for those not up to Bishops Finger) that will bring us back to Doe etc etc etc etc etc etc

No okay, hold yourself's back my friends I am being deafened by your tumultuous appreciation  happ096

I thank you, I thank you  razz:

YAY!!!  Hooray!!! Clap Clap Clap!!![/size]

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Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: The Moan Ranger on July 10, 2007, 08:38:41 PM
No decent Grammar Schools up there?

http://www.suttongrammar.sutton.sch.uk/

The scary thing is the Headmaster used to teach me A-Level maths, when he was fresh faced out of training. The poor bloke was terrorised at first. And he drove an Austin 1100, whereas I has a 1300  eyes:
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Landlady on July 10, 2007, 09:14:42 PM
thatsit: Thank you VERY much, way back in the mists of time an ex of mine had a past in a production of that musical somehow managing to get a singing part despite sounding like a distressed hyena. I've now got her catawauling stuck in my head again :lalalala

So so soooooooooooo very pleased to be of help  ;D

All together now

''Doe a deer a female deer, ray a drop of golden sun (not that your're getting any in England - tee hee), Me a name I call myself (when I'm so pissed I've forgotten my real one) Far a long long way to run (oh how you wish you could, how you wish you could),  Sew a needle pulling thread (not that these threads are in any way needle pulling, they couldn't hold anything together me thinks, talk about easily distracted), La  :lalalala   , Tea the jolly British tonic (for those not up to Bishops Finger) that will bring us back to Doe etc etc etc etc etc etc

No okay, hold yourself's back my friends I am being deafened by your tumultuous appreciation  happ096

I thank you, I thank you  razz:
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YAY!!!  Hooray!!! Clap Clap Clap!!![/size]
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Dear I& S - hereby formally invite you to a glass of champagne on the patio at TLHOTP when you make it over to our side of the waters  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: ice and a slice on July 10, 2007, 09:36:16 PM
thatsit: Thank you VERY much, way back in the mists of time an ex of mine had a past in a production of that musical somehow managing to get a singing part despite sounding like a distressed hyena. I've now got her catawauling stuck in my head again :lalalala

So so soooooooooooo very pleased to be of help  ;D

All together now

''Doe a deer a female deer, ray a drop of golden sun (not that your're getting any in England - tee hee), Me a name I call myself (when I'm so pissed I've forgotten my real one) Far a long long way to run (oh how you wish you could, how you wish you could),  Sew a needle pulling thread (not that these threads are in any way needle pulling, they couldn't hold anything together me thinks, talk about easily distracted), La  :lalalala   , Tea the jolly British tonic (for those not up to Bishops Finger) that will bring us back to Doe etc etc etc etc etc etc

No okay, hold yourself's back my friends I am being deafened by your tumultuous appreciation  happ096

I thank you, I thank you  razz:

YAY!!!  Hooray!!! Clap Clap Clap!!![/size]
[/quote]

Dear I& S - hereby formally invite you to a glass of champagne on the patio at TLHOTP when you make it over to our side of the waters  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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You're on - get it on ice!!! ;D
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Barman on July 11, 2007, 06:46:26 AM
You're on - get it on ice!!! ;D
And a lesson in the quote function for both of you?  ::)
Title: Re: School Grump 5: State v. Private
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 11, 2007, 07:47:41 AM
way back in the mists of time an ex of mine had a past. . .
Me too.

Funny how they never mention bunny-boiling during the first flush of romance. scared2: