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Title: Scary Roads
Post by: Miss Demeanour on November 28, 2009, 08:29:30 AM
Spaghetti Junction in Birmingham is Britain's most intimidating road system, a survey has revealed.

As many as 8% of motorists avoid "scary" junctions altogether and drive an average of 238 miles extra a year on detours, a survey by breakdown company Britannia Rescue found.

The poll also showed that 2% of motorists are so nervous they avoid making right turns at all costs, while 14% give urban areas a miss.

The second most hair-raising intersection area, according to the survey of 3,225 drivers, was the mate and its junctions through central Glasgow, with Marble Arch in central London third.

Road systems in London, Birmingham, Manchester, Glasgow and Leeds were labelled by motorists as particularly difficult to navigate.

The "scariest" junctions were: Gravelly Hill (Spaghetti Junction), Birmingham; mate junctions through central Glasgow; Marble Arch, London; Magic Roundabout, Swindon, Wiltshire; Hanger Lane Gyratory, west London; M5/M6 intersection, Birmingham; Piccadilly Circus, London; Five Ways junction, Birmingham; Magic Roundabout, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire; Kingston Bridge, Glasgow



So are there roads or junctions that you would actively avoid because of the complexity  / madness of them all.

Must admit to absolutely detesting Hyde Park Corner and will do anything to avoid if possible - frightens the feckin life out of me - but then I could just not be aggressive enough  rubschin:
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: GROWLER on November 28, 2009, 08:34:45 AM
You driven 'round the Paris periferique (sp) or the Arc de Treeumph lately?
Now they are a timid drivers nightmare.
Even driving a 52 seater charabang doesn't intimidate the Frogs, and indicators are a complete and utter waste of time. ::)
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Barman on November 28, 2009, 08:45:18 AM
Spaghetti Junction in Birmingham is Britain's most intimidating road system, a survey has revealed.

As many as 8% of motorists avoid "scary" junctions altogether and drive an average of 238 miles extra a year on detours, a survey by breakdown company Britannia Rescue found.

The poll also showed that 2% of motorists are so nervous they avoid making right turns at all costs, while 14% give urban areas a miss.

The second most hair-raising intersection area, according to the survey of 3,225 drivers, was the mate and its junctions through central Glasgow, with Marble Arch in central London third.

Road systems in London, Birmingham, Manchester, Glasgow and Leeds were labelled by motorists as particularly difficult to navigate.

The "scariest" junctions were: Gravelly Hill (Spaghetti Junction), Birmingham; mate junctions through central Glasgow; Marble Arch, London; Magic Roundabout, Swindon, Wiltshire; Hanger Lane Gyratory, west London; M5/M6 intersection, Birmingham; Piccadilly Circus, London; Five Ways junction, Birmingham; Magic Roundabout, Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire; Kingston Bridge, Glasgow



So are there roads or junctions that you would actively avoid because of the complexity  / madness of them all.

Must admit to absolutely detesting Hyde Park Corner and will do anything to avoid if possible - frightens the feckin life out of me - but then I could just not be aggressive enough  rubschin:

You don't even have a car like...  ::)
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Miss Demeanour on November 28, 2009, 08:50:19 AM
No ...not now you dunder head  ..... but when I did like  ::)

Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Nick on November 28, 2009, 08:52:00 AM
Did you crash it?  ::)
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Barman on November 28, 2009, 08:52:46 AM
Did you crash it?  ::)

 lol: lol: lol:
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: GROWLER on November 28, 2009, 08:53:54 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKVD7XiLPFo

 cloud9:
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Miss Demeanour on November 28, 2009, 08:55:20 AM
No  I did not crash it  evil:

Was pointless and too expensive to keep one. Have to pay for commuting into work anyway - no choice with that -  and so simply can't justify it or afford it
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Just One More on November 28, 2009, 08:56:14 AM

So are there roads or junctions that you would actively avoid because of the complexity  / madness of them all.

Avoid them? Never, I went to Swindon just to try the magic r/bout  redface:



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Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Barman on November 28, 2009, 08:56:59 AM
No  I did not crash it  evil:

Was pointless and too expensive to keep one. Have to pay for commuting into work anyway - no choice with that -  and so simply can't justify it or afford it
She crashed it...  ::)
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Nick on November 28, 2009, 08:57:14 AM
Of course, of course
 char048
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Miss Demeanour on November 28, 2009, 08:58:56 AM
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Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Barman on November 28, 2009, 08:59:54 AM
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Was that the shape of it after like...?
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Miss Demeanour on November 28, 2009, 09:07:42 AM
Of course it was a VW  noooo:
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Miss Demeanour on November 28, 2009, 09:08:31 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKVD7XiLPFo

 cloud9:

I'm sorry but that stuff just makes me shiver in me little boots  - nottachance   noooo:
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Miss Demeanour on November 28, 2009, 09:09:26 AM

So are there roads or junctions that you would actively avoid because of the complexity  / madness of them all.

Avoid them? Never, I went to Swindon just to try the magic r/bout  redface:



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That is just mad  eeek:
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Pirate on November 28, 2009, 09:10:34 AM
I had to do a sketch plan of the magic roundabout once  noooo:
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Miss Demeanour on November 28, 2009, 09:11:12 AM
What had you done that needed such severe punishment  rubschin:
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Barman on November 28, 2009, 09:11:23 AM
Of course it was a VW  noooo:
drumroll:

 lol: lol: lol:
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: GROWLER on November 28, 2009, 09:13:05 AM
Yes, a bit scary, no challenging p'raps, cus this can happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI6YJv163r4&feature=related
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Grumpmeister on November 28, 2009, 09:13:29 AM
What had you done that needed such severe punishment  rubschin:

Upset Zebedee  whistle:
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Snoopy on November 28, 2009, 09:45:57 AM
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Antwerp Ring Road can get a bit hairy during the rush hour ~ which seems to be between 0800 and 1300 and again from 1500 to 2000 Monday to Friday.
I have always found it best to hit it during the truckers 2 hour lunch break.
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Nick on November 28, 2009, 09:48:24 AM
The Mexico City ring road is bad  scared2:

Not just because they are crap drivers but also because young Mexicans use it for the purposes of having sex WHILST DRIVING  eeek:
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: The Moan Ranger on November 30, 2009, 07:52:34 PM
The M4 this morning was pretty grim, what with the spray and standing puddles. Or so Mrs TMRBB tells me, I was fast asleep in the passengers seat...
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Just One More on April 25, 2012, 07:26:19 PM
I can honestly say that yesterday I ended up probably the most scared I'd ever been in my life. Mrs JOM was navigating and said, "Ooh, we could go that way on that white road on the map, bound to be some nice views". So off we went, ignoring the A and B roads, through the Wrynose pass and on to the Hardknot pass. Now the warning was there for me and others to see at the start of the second pass "road suitable for light vehicles and cars only. Unsuitable for all vehicles in winter conditions", but on I went, up to fourth gear, then down to third, then second and as the 90 degree and 170 degree bends came along, down into first for the last 600m or so on the 1:3 sections. I was gripping the steering wheel as hard as I could, I was revving the bollocks off the car scared of it stalling, but fortunately my worst nightmare didn't come, a car coming the other way

Never ever again scared2:

This bloke did a video of it on his Harley [/url] , it doesn't really show the sheer drops to the side and behind you on the bends, but gives an idea of how bad it is. If you don't like bikes or roads, enjoy the scenery

Hardknott Pass Lake District UK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIpTNkiljZI#)



Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: apc2010 on April 25, 2012, 07:33:42 PM
I can honestly say that yesterday I ended up probably the most scared I'd ever been in my life. Mrs JOM was navigating and said, "Ooh, we could go that way on that white road on the map, bound to be some nice views". So off we went, ignoring the A and B roads, through the Wrynose pass and on to the Hardknot pass. Now the warning was there for me and others to see at the start of the second pass "road suitable for light vehicles and cars only. Unsuitable for all vehicles in winter conditions", but on I went, up to fourth gear, then down to third, then second and as the 90 degree and 170 degree bends came along, down into first for the last 600m or so on the 1:3 sections. I was gripping the steering wheel as hard as I could, I was revving the bollocks off the car scared of it stalling, but fortunately my worst nightmare didn't come, a car coming the other way

Never ever again scared2:

This bloke did a video of it on his Harley [/url] , it doesn't really show the sheer drops to the side and behind you on the bends, but gives an idea of how bad it is. If you don't like bikes or roads, enjoy the scenery

Hardknott Pass Lake District UK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIpTNkiljZI#)


That's like a dual carriage way .......... noooo:     try living here .......
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: beerhead on April 25, 2012, 07:39:33 PM
On a Harley ? That video must be speeded up a fair bit !
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Barman on April 25, 2012, 07:39:55 PM
I can honestly say that yesterday I ended up probably the most scared I'd ever been in my life. Mrs JOM was navigating and said, "Ooh, we could go that way on that white road on the map, bound to be some nice views". So off we went, ignoring the A and B roads, through the Wrynose pass and on to the Hardknot pass. Now the warning was there for me and others to see at the start of the second pass "road suitable for light vehicles and cars only. Unsuitable for all vehicles in winter conditions", but on I went, up to fourth gear, then down to third, then second and as the 90 degree and 170 degree bends came along, down into first for the last 600m or so on the 1:3 sections. I was gripping the steering wheel as hard as I could, I was revving the bollocks off the car scared of it stalling, but fortunately my worst nightmare didn't come, a car coming the other way

Never ever again scared2:

This bloke did a video of it on his Harley [/url] , it doesn't really show the sheer drops to the side and behind you on the bends, but gives an idea of how bad it is. If you don't like bikes or roads, enjoy the scenery

Hardknott Pass Lake District UK (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIpTNkiljZI#)


That's like a dual carriage way .......... noooo:     try living here .......

+1 Wrynose is a great road!  Thumbs:
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: apc2010 on April 25, 2012, 07:45:51 PM
We also have one of these ...........

car rolling uphill at the electric brae (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGqOYbeTaqs#)

still freaks me at everytime ........
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Barman on April 25, 2012, 07:49:16 PM
We also have one of these ...........

car rolling uphill at the electric brae (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGqOYbeTaqs#)

still freaks me at everytime ........

That is because you are an mong....  ::)

Our road was the same till they built the houses on both sides....
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: apc2010 on April 25, 2012, 07:53:53 PM
We also have one of these ...........

car rolling uphill at the electric brae (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGqOYbeTaqs#)

still freaks me at everytime ........

That is because you are an mong....  ::)

Our road was the same till they built the houses on both sides....

Since you moved him it was always goin be downhill............ whistle:
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Darwins Selection on April 25, 2012, 08:17:10 PM
We also have one of these ...........

car rolling uphill at the electric brae (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGqOYbeTaqs#)

still freaks me at everytime ........

That is because you are an mong....  ::)

Our road was the same till they built the houses on both sides....

Since you moved him it was always goin be downhill............ whistle:
drumroll:
Title: Re: Scary Roads
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on April 26, 2012, 08:33:30 AM
I have vivid memories of doing Hardknot the year of the foot 'n mouth outbreak (lake district was, to all intents and purposes, closed!).

I approached from the opposite direction to monsieur HD, so I was hitting the steepest hairpins going uphill!

I was in an automatic, 3L MV6 Omega at the time, which made things a bit hair-raising, since it would lose traction at the drop of a hat - yet was fitted with traction control! Result being, try to slowly take very steep hairpin uphill, give it gas, lose grip, lose ALL power, wait for grip, power comes back on, grip goes, power goes etc. etc. etc.  definitely a good workout for the sphincter when there's a mohoosive drop behind you!

 ::)