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Title: Local Produce or not
Post by: Snoopy on November 27, 2009, 04:16:32 PM
As I have said many times I am a great believer in supporting local farmers and food producers. Today I have been over to Denbigh to collect the magazine from the printer and took the opportunity to purchase butter and cheese from the creamery at Llandernog. In conversation with the girl in the "factory" shop I learned that the Llandernog village butcher makes his own sausages and pork pies from pigs farmed about 5 miles away. Unfortunately they have to be taken down to Anglesey for slaughter but that is another story. The porkers are to all intents and purposes "local" and the pies and bangers are made at the back of the shop. So I thought I'd give 'em a go. Just eaten half a pie with mustard. Best damn pork pie I have tasted in years.
It's a personal thing I accept but I just don't like the jelly in pork pies, tho' I do understand why it is there and I know many actually like it.
Today's pies have NO JELLY! cloud9:

But to get back to the point ~ en route I missed at least a dozen fine fat pheasants, mainly due to the screams from SWWLTBO every time I spotted one on the lane and put my foot down a bit. Landrovers just don't have the instant get up and go necessary to hit the sods before they take flight ~ at least not when SWWLTBO is alerted by the diesel engine roaring as I try to accelerate without her realising what my plan is.

Sorry another digression there. The question is this ~ A farmer at Halkyn (about seven miles from here) has a herd of Water Buffalo and sells the meat. It isn't cheap but it is most excellent beef (and has never carried Mad Cow Disease) ~ so as Water Buffalo are not native to the  Principality does this counts as "Local" produce?  rubschin:

I say it is as he grazes these beasts on good Welsh mountainside grass, they are slaughtered on Anglesey (our local abattoir specialises only in Halal meat for the Asian market in Liverpool and Manchester) and the carcasses are returned to his farm for butchering. Others claim that since the beasts are not native to the UK they are not really local produce. I have argued that the cattle in fields around here are basically Fresians (there are some farms with Welsh Blacks but not many) and certainly the pigs are a continental hybrid thus neither are truly "local" but it seems that some have got it into their heads that Water Buffalo belong in Asia. What does the team think?
Title: Re: Local Produce or not
Post by: Pastis on November 27, 2009, 04:43:50 PM
Local. Definitely local.

Ok, this is not local produce but the same applies; we have parakeets in the park over the road. There were 5 or 6 squawking loudly in a tree above me during the week. Rumour has it they've been breeding in the area for 50 or so years. They may well have come from Asia originally but they're certainly local now ~ a definite sarf London twang to their squawk  ;)
Title: Re: Local Produce or not
Post by: Darwins Selection on November 27, 2009, 04:47:09 PM
Good man Snoopy.  ;D

'Local' refers to where the beast/produce is grown in my book.

I am unable to think of any truly indigenous breeds.

Even if they roamed wild 1000's of years ago, their ancesters would have wandered across the North Sea or the Dover-Calais causeway.

BTW, I also eschew the jelly in pork pies.

Title: Re: Local Produce or not
Post by: Snoopy on November 27, 2009, 05:09:47 PM
Thanks Chaps!
Gave me a start when I first saw these buggers in a field half way up Halkyn Mountain ~ big sods aren't they?

(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northwalesbuffalo.co.uk%2FBuffalo%252022%2520%282%29.JPG&hash=5193aba399c80787b454d58d2db213043d6b6ac7)
Title: Re: Local Produce or not
Post by: Snoopy on November 27, 2009, 05:12:10 PM
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The buffalo have been with us since 1998 and the herd has now built up to around 200 animals.

They eat grass, silage, hay and straw and are very good converters of poor quality forage.

Their meat is tender and tasty and contains very little fat and has been proved to have very low cholesterol content ? A healthy alternative red meat.

Try our buffalo burgers, sausages or mince if you aren?t sure!

Price List

 
                 per Kg    per lb
Buffalo brisket    6.80    3.09
Buffalo pot roast    6.80    3.09
Buffalo topside    8.99    4.09
Buffalo fillet    24.99 11.36
Buffalo Sirloin X 2 16.99 7.72
Buffalo Rump    13.99 6.36
Grill steaks X 4    9.49    4.31
Buffalo braising  500g    7.50    3.41
Buffalo stew or mince 500g    6.25    2.84
Burgers Buffalo  X 4    3.00    per pack
Buffalo sausages 500g    6.20    2.82

Prices compare pretty well with decent beef IMHO (tho' I confess I seldom pay for "normal" beef as lil bruvver supplies it.)
Title: Re: Local Produce or not
Post by: Barman on November 27, 2009, 05:24:49 PM
Pork pie jelly....  Drool:
Title: Re: Local Produce or not
Post by: Pastis on November 27, 2009, 05:27:45 PM
You also have the possibility of buying local Buffalo Mozzarella  cloud9:
Title: Re: Local Produce or not
Post by: Bar Wench on November 27, 2009, 05:34:16 PM
Deffo local.

We have parrots here too! They have been especially noisy today!
Title: Re: Local Produce or not
Post by: Pastis on November 27, 2009, 05:36:45 PM
Deffo local.

We have parrots here too! They have been especially noisy today!

D'you know any good recipes?  There's talk of a cull  eveilgrin:
Title: Re: Local Produce or not
Post by: Snoopy on November 27, 2009, 05:37:29 PM
You also have the possibility of buying local Buffalo Mozzarella  cloud9:

Indeed ..... and yoghurt, ice cream etc.
Title: Re: Local Produce or not
Post by: Snoopy on November 27, 2009, 05:37:59 PM
Deffo local.

We have parrots here too! They have been especially noisy today!

D'you know any good recipes?  There's talk of a cull  eveilgrin:

Don't even think about it ~ they'll only repeat on you!!!!
Title: Re: Local Produce or not
Post by: Pastis on November 27, 2009, 05:40:24 PM
 drumroll: drumroll:
Title: Re: Local Produce or not
Post by: Just One More on November 27, 2009, 06:15:04 PM
Having tried buffallo meat, yoghurt and ice cream I have to say all were delicious.