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Title: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Miss Creant Commander of the picklement and baking BAb(Hons) on August 20, 2009, 09:28:07 PM
The Libyan man jailed in Scotland for blowing up a US airliner over Lockerbie in 1988, has arrived back in Libya after being set free.
The Scottish government released Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi, who is 57 and has terminal cancer, on compassionate grounds.
US President Barack Obama said the move was "a mistake", and some relatives of US victims reacted angrily.



He has apparently been greeted as a hero.   noooo:
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Barman on August 21, 2009, 05:11:05 AM
I agree with The Devil (http://devilskitchen.me.uk/2009/08/lockerbie-non-bomber-to-be-released.html) that he should have been released...
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Miss Demeanour on August 21, 2009, 07:34:29 AM

The message is that if you are a high profile prisoner and have a terminal disease then they do not want you dying in prison ( Biggs and now Al Megrahi).

However his conviction has always been dubious and based more on the fact that they had to identify someone to pin this on and pacify certain nations.

Mr Obama may be very visible in protesting about the injustice of all this but is doing very little to resolve the injustices that are continuing at Guatanemo noooo:

Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Snoopy on August 21, 2009, 07:39:31 AM
Americans are well known for their ludicrously vicious sentencing policies ~ E.G. 999 years FFS ~ they know that no-one will ever serve that long so why even bother to pass such a sentence.

The Yanks agreed that this man should be tried under Scottish Law ~ tough titty you bigoted arseholes. Don't start complaining now.

Then of course there is the matter of whether he actually committed the crime and there does seem to be a large element of doubt over that no matter what the court in Holland felt. Take a look at the review conducted by the Scottish Criminal Cases Review Commission (all 800 pages and four years of investigation) has to say about it.

IMHO He was offered up by the Libyans as a sacrificial goat. I think those who are not blinded by having their heads so far up their own Yankee arses can see that.

Read: http://www.lrb.co.uk/v29/n12/mile01_.html
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Uncle Mort on August 21, 2009, 07:47:29 AM
Agree, he may have been involved but there had to have been others up to and including governments. There is evidence that the Iranians were involved and remember that the the USA did shoot down an Iranian airliner only a few months earlier killing all 290 on board.
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Miss Demeanour on August 21, 2009, 12:28:09 PM
A royal visit to Libya is being reconsidered after the welcome given to the Lockerbie bomber on his return to the country, the BBC understands.

The Foreign Office is reviewing plans for Prince Andrew, the Duke of York, to meet senior figures and promote trade.

The visit - planned for early September - now seems unlikely to go ahead



What a cop out.......  noooo: noooo: noooo:

What makes you think Prince Andrew just doesn't fancy going ....he prolly has another round of really tiring golf to play  ::)
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Uncle Mort on August 21, 2009, 12:32:04 PM
He should go, think of the bunker practice he'd get.
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Darwins Selection on August 21, 2009, 12:39:32 PM
He should go, think of the bunker practice he'd get.

I thought they were pretty strict on hankey-pankey out there?



Oh, BUNKER, right.  redface:
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Uncle Mort on August 21, 2009, 12:41:49 PM
Just to help the thought processes like:


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Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Darwins Selection on August 21, 2009, 12:45:00 PM
Just to help the thought processes like:


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 happy088
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Nick on August 21, 2009, 06:06:39 PM
A royal visit to Libya is being reconsidered after the welcome given to the Lockerbie bomber on his return to the country, the BBC understands.

The Foreign Office is reviewing plans for Prince Andrew, the Duke of York, to meet senior figures and promote trade.

The visit - planned for early September - now seems unlikely to go ahead



What a cop out.......  noooo: noooo: noooo:

What makes you think Prince Andrew just doesn't fancy going ....he prolly has another round of really tiring golf to play  ::)

It's because Mrs Nick is supposed to be going with him  whistle:
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Snoopy on August 21, 2009, 06:28:04 PM
I should have guessed you would be mixed up in this somewhere.
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Nick on August 21, 2009, 07:42:13 PM
Not me, Mrs Glowing Pants  angel1
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Darwins Selection on August 21, 2009, 08:19:17 PM
Not me, Mrs Glowing Pants  angel1
Chinese now?
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Nick on August 22, 2009, 06:51:09 AM
I dreamt last night that Mrs Nick had opted for euthanasia, but that the injection kept getting delayed as she was looking at herself in a mirror all the time to say goodbye to herself.

She told me it was 'wishful thinking'  eveilgrin:
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Paphitis on August 22, 2009, 11:20:09 AM
The guy probably has few days to live, and so I believe that the UK and Scotland have made the right decision to release him on compassionate grounds. This will give him the opportunity to say Good Bye to his family.

I say the above because I am not entirely convinced he committed the crime and could very well have been a scape goat...
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Nick on August 22, 2009, 11:35:58 AM
I bet he had a nervous flight back though!
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Barman on August 22, 2009, 11:43:47 AM
The guy probably has few days to live, and so I believe that the UK and Scotland have made the right decision to release him on compassionate grounds. This will give him the opportunity to say Good Bye to his family.

I say the above because I am not entirely convinced he committed the crime and could very well have been a scape goat...
Not compassionate grounds - he should have been released because he was innocent...
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Paphitis on August 22, 2009, 11:46:05 AM
The guy probably has few days to live, and so I believe that the UK and Scotland have made the right decision to release him on compassionate grounds. This will give him the opportunity to say Good Bye to his family.

I say the above because I am not entirely convinced he committed the crime and could very well have been a scape goat...
Not compassionate grounds - he should have been released because he was innocent...

Well yes..if that is the case then he should have been released a long time ago..in fact he should not have been convicted in the first place.
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Barman on August 22, 2009, 11:49:28 AM
The guy probably has few days to live, and so I believe that the UK and Scotland have made the right decision to release him on compassionate grounds. This will give him the opportunity to say Good Bye to his family.

I say the above because I am not entirely convinced he committed the crime and could very well have been a scape goat...
Not compassionate grounds - he should have been released because he was innocent...

Well yes..if that is the case then he should have been released a long time ago..in fact he should not have been convicted in the first place.
Quite so...

Another unfortunate 'side effect' of the compassionate release is that there will never be an inquiry into the first trial...
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Paphitis on August 22, 2009, 12:04:11 PM
That is a very unfortunate side effect.  noooo:

But even after the man dies, surely there are grounds for an inquiry if there is sufficient doubt?

I do not know the evidence against him, or whether he is guilty or innocent. All I know is that his conviction was controversial and so there must be some grounds for doubt.

Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Miss Demeanour on August 24, 2009, 06:59:13 AM
Oh how the Americans are throwing their toys out of the pram on this one  noooo:

So something has happened in the world and a decision has been made that they don't like or agree with .....is Scotland to be invaded next !!!!!!

Noticeabley Weasel Brown has yet to nail his colours to the mast .......who is he fearful of offending most  noooo:





Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Grumpmeister on August 25, 2009, 07:04:15 PM
I see that Brown is now expressing his revulsion at the jubilant scenes that greeted Megrahi. Now I apologise for my language here but what the fuck did you think was going to happen Gordon. I realise that you are a demented moron with the charm and charisma of a bucket of decomposing tripe but surely even you didn't believe that because you had asked for a low key reception they would do what you wanted.
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Barman on August 25, 2009, 07:05:32 PM
I see that Brown is now expressing his revulsion at the jubilant scenes that greeted Megrahi. Now I apologise for my language here but what the fuck did you think was going to happen Gordon. I realise that you are a demented moron with the charm and charisma of a bucket of decomposing tripe but surely even you didn't believe that because you had asked for a low key reception they would do what you wanted.
Is the stupid one-eyed moronic cunt back from his holidays then...?  noooo:
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Darwins Selection on August 25, 2009, 07:34:40 PM
I see that Brown is now expressing his revulsion at the jubilant scenes that greeted Megrahi. Now I apologise for my language here but what the fuck did you think was going to happen Gordon. I realise that you are a demented moron with the charm and charisma of a bucket of decomposing tripe but surely even you didn't believe that because you had asked for a low key reception they would do what you wanted.
Is the stupid one-eyed moronic cunt back from his holidays then...?  noooo:

Yes, I'm here.
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Barman on August 25, 2009, 07:38:04 PM
I see that Brown is now expressing his revulsion at the jubilant scenes that greeted Megrahi. Now I apologise for my language here but what the fuck did you think was going to happen Gordon. I realise that you are a demented moron with the charm and charisma of a bucket of decomposing tripe but surely even you didn't believe that because you had asked for a low key reception they would do what you wanted.
Is the stupid one-eyed moronic cunt back from his holidays then...?  noooo:

Yes, I'm here.
lol: lol: lol:
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Pastis on August 25, 2009, 09:27:12 PM
I see that Brown is now expressing his revulsion at the jubilant scenes that greeted Megrahi. Now I apologise for my language here but what the fuck did you think was going to happen Gordon. I realise that you are a demented moron with the charm and charisma of a bucket of decomposing tripe but surely even you didn't believe that because you had asked for a low key reception they would do what you wanted.
Is the stupid one-eyed moronic cunt back from his holidays then...?  noooo:

Yes, I'm here.

 happy001 happy001

 worthy:

Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: barmisspah? on August 26, 2009, 10:34:45 AM
I see that Brown is now expressing his revulsion at the jubilant scenes that greeted Megrahi. Now I apologise for my language here but what the fuck did you think was going to happen Gordon. I realise that you are a demented moron with the charm and charisma of a bucket of decomposing tripe but surely even you didn't believe that because you had asked for a low key reception they would do what you wanted.
Is the stupid one-eyed moronic cunt back from his holidays then...?  noooo:

Much as I agree with the sentiment, there are ladies present you know.

And Darwin - we just aren't worthy.
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Grumpmeister on August 26, 2009, 05:31:09 PM
Much as I agree with the sentiment, there are ladies present you know.

That'p why I apologised in at the start of my tirade my dear. whistle:
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Barman on August 27, 2009, 05:59:39 AM
I see that Brown is now expressing his revulsion at the jubilant scenes that greeted Megrahi. Now I apologise for my language here but what the fuck did you think was going to happen Gordon. I realise that you are a demented moron with the charm and charisma of a bucket of decomposing tripe but surely even you didn't believe that because you had asked for a low key reception they would do what you wanted.
Is the stupid one-eyed moronic cunt back from his holidays then...?  noooo:

Much as I agree with the sentiment, there are ladies present you know.


I know, my wife and daughter are members too...

However you should be aware that, unlike other sites I wouldn't care to mention we don't have a swear filter.

And on rare occasions I consider the 'C' word to be appropriate.
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Darwins Selection on August 27, 2009, 10:06:55 AM
I see that Brown is now expressing his revulsion at the jubilant scenes that greeted Megrahi. Now I apologise for my language here but what the fuck did you think was going to happen Gordon. I realise that you are a demented moron with the charm and charisma of a bucket of decomposing tripe but surely even you didn't believe that because you had asked for a low key reception they would do what you wanted.
Is the stupid one-eyed moronic cunt back from his holidays then...?  noooo:

Much as I agree with the sentiment, there are ladies present you know.


I know, my wife and daughter are members too...

However you should be aware that, unlike other sites I wouldn't care to mention we don't have a swear filter.

And on rare occasions I consider the 'C' word to be appropriate.
You seem to use 'Cyprus' in every other post.
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Barman on August 27, 2009, 11:22:27 AM
I see that Brown is now expressing his revulsion at the jubilant scenes that greeted Megrahi. Now I apologise for my language here but what the fuck did you think was going to happen Gordon. I realise that you are a demented moron with the charm and charisma of a bucket of decomposing tripe but surely even you didn't believe that because you had asked for a low key reception they would do what you wanted.
Is the stupid one-eyed moronic cunt back from his holidays then...?  noooo:

Much as I agree with the sentiment, there are ladies present you know.


I know, my wife and daughter are members too...

However you should be aware that, unlike other sites I wouldn't care to mention we don't have a swear filter.

And on rare occasions I consider the 'C' word to be appropriate.
You seem to use 'Cyprus' in every other post.

 lol: lol: lol:
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Nick on September 02, 2009, 12:28:04 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpYF9PJUz6g&eurl=http://grumpyoldtwat.blogspot.com/2009/09/cameron-calls-brown-liar.html&feature=player_embedded#t=42 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpYF9PJUz6g&eurl=http://grumpyoldtwat.blogspot.com/2009/09/cameron-calls-brown-liar.html&feature=player_embedded#t=42)
 razz:
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Miss Demeanour on September 02, 2009, 12:30:58 PM
At least he got back to Libya in time for Gadaffi's understated 40 years on the throne celebrations  whistle:
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Nick on September 02, 2009, 12:35:12 PM
Big G has constipation?  eeek:
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Miss Demeanour on September 02, 2009, 12:41:02 PM
 lol:

He does cross his legs a lot  rubschin:
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Barman on September 02, 2009, 01:04:14 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpYF9PJUz6g&eurl=http://grumpyoldtwat.blogspot.com/2009/09/cameron-calls-brown-liar.html&feature=player_embedded#t=42 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpYF9PJUz6g&eurl=http://grumpyoldtwat.blogspot.com/2009/09/cameron-calls-brown-liar.html&feature=player_embedded#t=42)
 razz:


 lol:

Sweating like a stuck pig in fact....  whistle:
Title: Re: Should Abdelbaset Ali al-Megrahi have been released?
Post by: Snoopy on September 02, 2009, 01:07:59 PM
 shutup: