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Title: Recycling
Post by: GROWLER on March 25, 2009, 09:14:21 AM
Dunno about you lot, but up 'ere in the wonderful county of Cheshire or South Cheshire or whatever it's called now, we have these poxy little boxes for putting out every fortnight.

I currently have 5, 2 of which are mine, and the other 3 that belong to who knows?

Last night during the near hurricane force winds, I was woken on several occassions by the sound of the contents of these blown over boxes scattering their contents all over the neighbourhood. cussing:
The lazy bastards that collect can't even be bothered jamming the lids back into the boxes once they've been emptied (making as much noise as is humanly possible at 07:00am,) and as a consequnce we are now have a box with no lid. Banghead

The whole system is a total shambles. They drive up one side of the road, and come back 3 hours later to do the other, and then we get the garden waste wagon coming around too! noooo:

Where does all this recyclable waste go then?
My guess is that the majority ends up in land fill, or on nights like this one we've just had, evryones bloody garden. ::)
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Barman on March 25, 2009, 09:23:55 AM
I think most recycled material is shipped all the way to China where is is buried in landfill sites...

The whole thing is a farce... how many millions of tonnes of wheelie bins and recycling boxes have been manufactured in various colours...?  noooo:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Nick on March 25, 2009, 09:24:34 AM
We too have pink bags full of cans and suchlike blowing all over the place here. I have more rubbish now than I did before the bin men came on Monday. And since the price of stuff for recycling has gone down my guess is it still ends up in ladnfill. The system here is like some insane game show. Put this stuff in this box on alternate Tuesday, put other stuff in apink bag on the third Sunday if there is an R in the month and so on. And then when the binmen do turn up they crash into your car  evil:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Miss Demeanour on March 25, 2009, 09:27:00 AM
One green box - no lid.

no one knows if this is for paper, cans or bottles. Doesn't matter as it is never collected anyway  evil:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Snoopy on March 25, 2009, 09:32:23 AM
Oh it's all very simple ~ just read this load of tosh from my County Council. It is a Press Release so one would imagine that they think it understandable.

Quote
Denbighshire is set to become a cleaner, greener county with county communities set to benefit from an expansion of recycling services.

There are currently 20,000 households in Rhyl, Prestatyn, St Asaph, Bodelwyddan, Rhuddlan and Dyserth on the X2 scheme.  If this is you, then the first stage of the new recycling system affects your household!

Houses will receive a large blue bin, orange food waste container, an information pack and collection calendars from 16 March.  The large blue bin will replace the dumpy bag, small blue box and blue bag currently used. This will mean that each house will now have:

·        a grey bin, for waste which cannot be recycled
·        a green  bin for garden waste
·        a blue bin for recyclable waste (paper, cardboard, mixed plastics, glass, cans and tetrapak drink cartons); and
·        an orange container for food waste.

Each town will receive their new containers in roughly the order set out above (i.e. Rhyl, Prestatyn, etc).  The deliveries will take about two weeks to complete.   Food waste collections are due to start from 30 March.

If you are in the north of the county and currently receive the weekly pink sack refuse collection, then you will receive blue and white smart sacks for your recycling.  You won’t receive food waste containers yet – they won’t issued before 2010.

The second phase of the delivery will affect 10,000 households elsewhere in the county, including all households in Denbigh and Ruthin, whether currently on the X2 scheme or the pink sack system.

These households will receive smart sacks during March and April – we will confirm final dates as soon as possible.  Food waste collections in this part of the county will not start before 2010.

For all areas of the county, the current small blue box collections end on Friday 27 March. From Monday 30 March, residents will be using their large blue bins or the smart sack system depending on the area.   All households on a recycling scheme will be able to recycle an increased range of products – including cardboard, plastic food containers and tetrapak drink cartons.

For what can and cannot be recycled – please refer to March’s edition of County Voice (centre pages).  If you no longer have the copy you received through your letter box, it can be downloaded from the Corporate Communications pages of the Denbighshire website at www.denbighshire.gov.uk.

Denbighshire residents are already recycling 33% of their waste and this expansion of recycling collections will take the county beyond the 40% target set for 2009.

Information about what can be recycled will also be included in your information pack.


Note X2 scheme means that you get one collection a fortnight ~ I think
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: GROWLER on March 25, 2009, 09:36:42 AM
I think most recycled material is shipped all the way to China where is is buried in landfill sites...

The whole thing is a farce... how many millions of tonnes of wheelie bins and recycling boxes have been manufactured in various colours...?  noooo:

Dunno, but it's like a bleedin' refuge for the homeless boxes here.

Any one wanna do a swapsy? 1 lid for a green box in exchange please anyone. ::)
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Uncle Mort on March 25, 2009, 09:37:09 AM
One wheelie bin for household waste (landfill) one blue box for glass (recycle), clear sacks for paper, cardboard, plastic, cans (recycle), sacks for green garden waste (recycle). Alternate week collections for landfill and recycle. Works perfectly well.
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Nick on March 25, 2009, 09:37:27 AM
WTF is a smart sack?
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: GROWLER on March 25, 2009, 09:38:30 AM
WTF is a smart sack?

Mrs Growler in her best frock. ::)
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Barman on March 25, 2009, 09:38:51 AM
We've got an old broken wheelie bin that we dump bin bags full of mixed rubbish in... collected three times a week.
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Snoopy on March 25, 2009, 09:40:09 AM
Uncle ~ all the various systems work perfectly well if residents adhere to the rules ~ in particular the ones about not putting their collections out before 7am on the morning of collection and taking their empty bins/boxes etc back in once they have been cleared. Putting them out overnight, when a breezy night is forecast, is asking for them to be blown around.
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: GROWLER on March 25, 2009, 09:42:48 AM
We've got an old broken wheelie bin that we dump bin bags full of mixed rubbish in... collected three times a week.

That is indeed impressive for a country that's still wandering around in the dark ages. eeek:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Barman on March 25, 2009, 09:44:19 AM
We've got an old broken wheelie bin that we dump bin bags full of mixed rubbish in... collected three times a week.

That is indeed impressive for a country that's still wandering around in the dark ages. eeek:
Indeed...

They then take it to a tip which is somewhat bizarrely located at the tip of a hill.... Then the scrap metal man sets light to it and carts the scrap away when the fire has gone out...  noooo:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Nick on March 25, 2009, 09:44:55 AM
In parts of Spain, maybe most of Spain, they have some huge truck in the street (about one between 30 houses or so) which is emptied every night!
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Snoopy on March 25, 2009, 09:48:46 AM
And in most of France and in all Dutch Towns and village the streets are hosed down every night ~ Don't hold your breath, this is here to stay. GB is, without doubt, a filthy country by most comparisons in the "Western World"









However Work calls ~ see you all later I 'spect
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Darwins Selection on March 25, 2009, 10:02:24 AM
WTF is a smart sack?

Mrs Growler in her best frock. ::)
drumroll:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Bar Wench on March 26, 2009, 09:48:03 AM
In parts of Spain, maybe most of Spain, they have some huge truck in the street (about one between 30 houses or so) which is emptied every night!

That is indeed the case. Dumpsters. Ours get emptied twice a week. Large pens for garden waste at the top of every road. Recycling centres on every urbanisation/estate/housing area. Works a treat. Apart from when your rubbish man is on holiday/off sick/doesn't fancy it and then nothing gets collected.

Round our way we have green bins for recycling (card, tin, paper, clothing, shoes, plastics) that is collected ever other week. Blue boxes for glass, collected same week as the recycling. Brown bins for general waste, collected every week. Garden waste is every other week in tiny sacks that you pay for. We go to the tip which is free. System works fine.
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Mr Happy on March 26, 2009, 09:20:03 PM
"There are currently 20,000 households in Rhyl, Prestatyn, St Asaph, Bodelwyddan, Rhuddlan and Dyserth"

Sounds like about 19,999 too many, recycle them!

Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Snoopy on March 26, 2009, 09:47:59 PM
That didn't include kennels  whistle:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Nick on April 06, 2009, 11:26:55 AM
We had a big clear out yesterday. Newspapers, other papers, plastic bottles, cans, wine bottles, cardboard, the lot. All carefully sorted.

A big truck has just come and the whole fooking lot has gone in the back with the general rubbish  Banghead Banghead Banghead

I could phone the council, but what would happen? Fook all.

But if I fail to sort stuff I will get arrested by Jacqui Smith or someone  cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing:

Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: grumpyoldsoldier on April 06, 2009, 01:26:47 PM
How do you recycle low energy light bulbs, I am on every buggers list for sending bulbs to. British Gas send me 4 every 12 months, I am not even a customer, Saga sent me some, in beige. The Motability people sent me some, they don't fit anything in the car. I got a couple from Gardeners's World when I subscribed to the magazine, I will plant them now that spring is here. eeek:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Barman on April 06, 2009, 01:34:51 PM
How do you recycle low energy light bulbs, I am on every buggers list for sending bulbs to. British Gas send me 4 every 12 months, I am not even a customer, Saga sent me some, in beige. The Motability people sent me some, they don't fit anything in the car. I got a couple from Gardeners's World when I subscribed to the magazine, I will plant them now that spring is here. eeek:
They're full of deadly Mercury...

Chuck them in the wheelie bin then...  ;)
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Miss Demeanour on April 06, 2009, 01:47:51 PM
How do you recycle low energy light bulbs, I am on every buggers list for sending bulbs to. British Gas send me 4 every 12 months, I am not even a customer, Saga sent me some, in beige. The Motability people sent me some, they don't fit anything in the car. I got a couple from Gardeners's World when I subscribed to the magazine, I will plant them now that spring is here. eeek:

Throw them at the kids playing outside your door - very satisfying  lol:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Nick on April 06, 2009, 02:37:23 PM
I called the council  eveilgrin:

Me: I no longer wish to recycle. I spend hours each week sorting stuff out. I want it all in the same truck'  eveilgrin:


Them: You can't do that

Me: Why not?

Them: Um

Me; Well?

Them: We could prosecute you.

Me: FOr what?

Them: For not recycling

I let the law bit pass  eveilgrin:

Me: So why did the effing lorry put all my stuff in this morning then?  cussing:

Them: Um, can we call you back?

Me: NO  Banghead Banghead Banghead Banghead
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: GROWLER on April 06, 2009, 03:14:50 PM
I called the council  eveilgrin:

Me: I no longer wish to recycle. I spend hours each week sorting stuff out. I want it all in the same truck'  eveilgrin:


Them: You can't do that

Me: Why not?

Them: Um

Me; Well?

Them: We could prosecute you.

Me: FOr what?

Them: For not recycling

I let the law bit pass  eveilgrin:

Me: So why did the effing lorry put all my stuff in this morning then?  cussing:

Them: Um, can we call you back?

Me: NO  Banghead Banghead Banghead Banghead
I had exactly the same here after crimbo. I rang the council to complain and they said they'd ring me back when someone was in the office.
4 months on and I'm still waiting. Breath wasters, all of them. Banghead
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Nick on April 06, 2009, 03:28:10 PM
Tossers  evil:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Miss Demeanour on April 06, 2009, 03:35:51 PM
 scared2:   scared2:  scared2:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Nick on April 06, 2009, 04:44:00 PM
And now: Online booking forms!  Banghead Banghead Banghead Banghead cussing: cussing: cussing:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Snoopy on April 06, 2009, 04:59:26 PM
Sometimes I wish I had been born 100 years earlier ~ life was much simpler then.  noooo:

You posted a letter at 0900 and it was delivered the same afternoon.
Tradesmen gave credit as a matter of course.
Newspapers were published three times a day and tea was served at 3.30 pm.
Trains ran on time (and on rails) and one simply looked up the destination in the timetable, took a horsedrawn cab to Waterloo and bought a first class ticket, got on the train and a man came round to ensure your luggage was stowed safely.

OK Maybe I have watched too many Sherlock Holmes stories on the TV but life was not this complicated back then. You had rubbish ~ you threw it away. You wanted to catch a train, someone took your money and a porter showed you to your seat.
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Uncle Mort on April 06, 2009, 06:38:59 PM
Medicine wasn't quite so well developed though.  noooo:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Barman on April 06, 2009, 06:39:57 PM
Medicine wasn't quite so well developed though.  noooo:
And they didn't have Blu-Ray discs and high definition home cinema systems either....  noooo:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Miss Demeanour on April 06, 2009, 06:43:43 PM
and women were treated as second class citizens  whistle:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Barman on April 06, 2009, 06:45:41 PM
and women were treated as second class citizens  whistle:
shutup:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Miss Demeanour on April 06, 2009, 06:49:07 PM
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Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Barman on April 06, 2009, 06:50:05 PM
 eeek:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Nick on April 06, 2009, 07:26:21 PM
and women were treated as second class citizens  whistle:


 evil:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: grumpyoldsoldier on April 07, 2009, 06:34:45 AM
Medicine wasn't quite so well developed though.  noooo:
And they didn't have Blu-Ray discs and high definition home cinema systems either....  noooo:
But they had ringworm and scabies eyes:
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Barman on April 07, 2009, 06:44:30 AM
Medicine wasn't quite so well developed though.  noooo:
And they didn't have Blu-Ray discs and high definition home cinema systems either....  noooo:
But they had ringworm and scabies eyes:
And Gout prolly GOS....
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: Darwins Selection on April 07, 2009, 07:45:19 AM
Medicine wasn't quite so well developed though.  noooo:
And they didn't have Blu-Ray discs and high definition home cinema systems either....  noooo:
But they had ringworm and scabies eyes:
And one decent war for each generation, to keep the chav numbers down.
Title: Re: Recycling
Post by: grumpyoldsoldier on April 07, 2009, 08:27:14 AM
Wanted every happened to that nice Mr Neville Chamberlain, he said that there wasn't going to be any more. My great Grandad died at the Somme, he wasn't a soldier, he was just camping nearby and went over to complain about the noise surrender: