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Come Inside... => Saloon Bar => Topic started by: GROWLER on February 04, 2009, 09:03:16 AM
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Mini Moose has very kindly offered to help supervise young disabled kids go horsey riding this coming Spring.
She's got to have a CRB check done! eeek:
'They' apologise for the intrusion and any inconvieneince this may cause her.
Fire brigade on it's way to extinguish me bladder. Angry9:
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How old is she?
Does this mean that The Boy has to be CRB checked cos he comes into contact with younger kids at his school? Bonkers
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How old is she?
Does this mean that The Boy has to be CRB checked cos he comes into contact with younger kids at his school? Bonkers
14.
Is The Boy working with kids though, that's the 'key' element...apparently.
Mini Moose is doing this voluntarily. No pay. Duke of Edinburgh award scheme.
I give up. This country has gone completely shit.
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I work with and amogst kids, yet I haven't had or got to have a CRB check done by law (not compulsary, but adviseable apparently) as I'm on my own. i.e I haven't got an employer.
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And she will have to pay for the privilege of having one!
You don't have to Growler but it may well be advisable to get one as the authorities say. Parents are getting very peculiar about it and it would be good to stick it on the website. I'm not even allowed to cross the school threshold when the kids are there as mine is out of date.
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Wasn't there a case recently where teenagers were accused of paedophilia for taking pictures of each other (with their bits out like) on their mobile 'phones...? noooo:
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Maybe you could post a pic of your special trousers
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Maybe you could post a pic of your special trousers
Would you like a picture of my special trousers little boy...?
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Any person who is in a position of influence over children (and that would apply to Mini Moose in this context) needs to be "cleared". FFS Mrs S#2 teaches adults but because some of them are classed as "vulnerable" (loonies to you and me) she has to be cleared.
This is nulabour's answer to all child and vulnerable adult abuse. Of course the checks with the CRB are (i) often wrong and (ii) completely useless as they only show unspent convictions NOT suspicions. In other words if the child mollester has not been caught and sentenced then he/she will not show up on the register. Frankly this piece of legislation is as useless as the dangerous dogs act which you will all note has done nothing to stop stupid people from owning dogs that they cannot control and those dogs attacking people.
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And she will have to pay for the privilege of having one!
You don't have to Growler but it may well be advisable to get one as the authorities say. Parents are getting very peculiar about it and it would be good to stick it on the website. I'm not even allowed to cross the school threshold when the kids are there as mine is out of date.
It's just another way of taxing us, all this shite. Angry9:
I have to pay for it to be confirmed i don't have a criminal record, and I'll probably have to pay extra as it has to be done through an employment agency apparently. I can't request one to be done by myself.
Look, if I'm going to 'kiddie fiddle' I'm NOT going to do it whilst I'm working am I?
I'm trying to build a business UP here, NOT bloody knock it down.
Pass me another bladder. Banghead
WHY? confused:
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Are you sure you have to go through an employment agency? Pretty sure I got mine as an individual.
You may not be looking to fiddle whilst working but apparently fiddlers look for jobs that involve regular contact with children. Who knows why?
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It does not have to be an employment egency ~ in fact many agencies are not registered to seek such information.
There is no law that says you MUST obtain clearance for what you propose to do but it will not sit well with some clients if you don't. Seek legal advice.
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But it's for her DofE Award scheme FFS
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But it's for her DofE Award scheme FFS
Yes, precisely. The original point.
I think it's a bloody insult tbq and thoroughly h. Angry9:
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Some employers take the law to ridiculous extremes "just in case". Personally I would doubt the need for a 14 year old to be vetted in this way. Check it with your local Social Services.
Is the child in the Guides or similar? They will do the checks for free for you.
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Some employers take the law to ridiculous extremes "just in case". Personally I would doubt the need for a 14 year old to be vetted in this way. Check it with your local Social Services.
Is the child in the Guides or similar? They will do the checks for free for you.
This is all been done through school. I'll contact them as I'm NOT 'kin paying for all this totally uneccessary ridiculous completely OTT dogs vomit shite, no way. cussing:
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Tell her not to mention her collection of golliwogs
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And she will have to pay for the privilege of having one!
Not so.
If she is doing 'Voluntary work' for little or no pay, it is free: http://www.crb.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=1846 (http://www.crb.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=1846)
Growler would have to pay, being a business, although if he were checked as a result of working (briefly) at a youth club it would be free and the check would still hold for Swamp Inc. . . whistle:
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And she will have to pay for the privilege of having one!
Not so.
If she is doing 'Voluntary work' for little or no pay, it is free: http://www.crb.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=1846 (http://www.crb.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=1846)
Growler would have to pay, being a business, although if he were checked as a result of working (briefly) at a youth club it would be free and the check would still hold for Swamp Inc. . . whistle:
Whatever. Money isn't the main issue here anyway, it's the bloody principle of it.
IT STINKS! cussing:
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Has she got a criminal record? rubschin:
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And she will have to pay for the privilege of having one!
Not so.
If she is doing 'Voluntary work' for little or no pay, it is free: http://www.crb.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=1846 (http://www.crb.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=1846)
Growler would have to pay, being a business, although if he were checked as a result of working (briefly) at a youth club it would be free and the check would still hold for Swamp Inc. . . whistle:
Whatever. Money isn't the main issue here anyway, it's the bloody principle of it.
IT STINKS! cussing:
Sorry old chap, I disagree.
If we put our children in the care others it is a comfort to know they are not perverts or violent rather than allow the likes of Fred West to be scoutmaster or whatever.
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But she's only a kid herself!
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But she's only a kid herself!
I think the problem is here we all "know" Mini Moose. Imagine if it were a 14 year old boy off some dodgy council estate. Sadly in this day and age not all "children" can be trusted.
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And she will have to pay for the privilege of having one!
Not so.
If she is doing 'Voluntary work' for little or no pay, it is free: http://www.crb.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=1846 (http://www.crb.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=1846)
Growler would have to pay, being a business, although if he were checked as a result of working (briefly) at a youth club it would be free and the check would still hold for Swamp Inc. . . whistle:
Whatever. Money isn't the main issue here anyway, it's the bloody principle of it.
IT STINKS! cussing:
Sorry old chap, I disagree.
If we put our children in the care others it is a comfort to know they are not perverts or violent rather than allow the likes of Fred West to be scoutmaster or whatever.
She's 14 FFS!
SHE is in more 'danger' from the owners of the stables than the disabled kids are from her, check or no bloody check.
Just because you've been CRB'd isn't going to stop a perv from doing whatever it is they do.
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I have met her. SHe takes the piss out of Growler summat rotten. noooo:
Mind you, he is a soft target
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It isn't going to stop them no, but there has to be some form of checks and balances surely!
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And she will have to pay for the privilege of having one!
Not so.
If she is doing 'Voluntary work' for little or no pay, it is free: http://www.crb.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=1846 (http://www.crb.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=1846)
Growler would have to pay, being a business, although if he were checked as a result of working (briefly) at a youth club it would be free and the check would still hold for Swamp Inc. . . whistle:
Whatever. Money isn't the main issue here anyway, it's the bloody principle of it.
IT STINKS! cussing:
Sorry old chap, I disagree.
If we put our children in the care others it is a comfort to know they are not perverts or violent rather than allow the likes of Fred West to be scoutmaster or whatever.
Ah ~ if only it worked that way ~ but of course it does not. Dunblane would still have happened. The man was legally in possession of the firearms, cleared to work as a youth leader ~ many had suspicions about him but those are not recorded by the CRB. Ergo no amount of CRB checks would have stopped him.
There is also a difference between that which is recorded by the CRB and those whose names may appear on the sex offenders register.
No system devised by man is ever going to be perfect but the one we have is another political knee jerk reaction that, put simply, is not fit for purpose. Sorry but I have used it often and found it to be flawed. That said I suppose if it stops one pervert then it has done some good.
Remember that the CRB can only record AFTER the event ~ it cannot predict nor does it hold records of suspicions ~ only convictions.
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I have met her. SHe takes the piss out of Growler summat rotten. noooo:
Mind you, he is a soft target
WWWWHAT!? Angry9:
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I have met her. SHe takes the piss out of Growler summat rotten. noooo:
Mind you, he is a soft target
WWWWHAT!? Angry9:
Garn! You're a pussy cat really.
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Or a Panda lol:
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And she will have to pay for the privilege of having one!
Not so.
If she is doing 'Voluntary work' for little or no pay, it is free: http://www.crb.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=1846 (http://www.crb.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=1846)
Growler would have to pay, being a business, although if he were checked as a result of working (briefly) at a youth club it would be free and the check would still hold for Swamp Inc. . . whistle:
Whatever. Money isn't the main issue here anyway, it's the bloody principle of it.
IT STINKS! cussing:
Sorry old chap, I disagree.
If we put our children in the care others it is a comfort to know they are not perverts or violent rather than allow the likes of Fred West to be scoutmaster or whatever.
Ah ~ if only it worked that way ~ but of course it does not. Dunblane would still have happened. The man was legally in possession of the firearms, cleared to work as a youth leader ~ many had suspicions about him but those are not recorded by the CRB. Ergo no amount of CRB checks would have stopped him.
There is also a difference between that which is recorded by the CRB and those whose names may appear on the sex offenders register.
No system devised by man is ever going to be perfect but the one we have is another political knee jerk reaction that, put simply, is not fit for purpose. Sorry but I have used it often and found it to be flawed. That said I suppose if it stops one pervert then it has done some good.
Remember that the CRB can only record AFTER the event ~ it cannot predict nor does it hold records of suspicions ~ only convictions.
My point. Precisely. 10/10. That's what I should have said in the first place. ::)
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I have met her. SHe takes the piss out of Growler summat rotten. noooo:
Mind you, he is a soft target
WWWWHAT!? Angry9:
Garn! You're a pussy cat really.
WWWHAT!? cussing:
You lot deliberately winding me up today?
I'd show you what a 'pussy' is really like, if only I could get my bloody photo bucket to werk. Banghead
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And she will have to pay for the privilege of having one!
Not so.
If she is doing 'Voluntary work' for little or no pay, it is free: http://www.crb.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=1846 (http://www.crb.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=1846)
Growler would have to pay, being a business, although if he were checked as a result of working (briefly) at a youth club it would be free and the check would still hold for Swamp Inc. . . whistle:
Whatever. Money isn't the main issue here anyway, it's the bloody principle of it.
IT STINKS! cussing:
Sorry old chap, I disagree.
If we put our children in the care others it is a comfort to know they are not perverts or violent rather than allow the likes of Fred West to be scoutmaster or whatever.
Ah ~ if only it worked that way ~ but of course it does not. Dunblane would still have happened. The man was legally in possession of the firearms, cleared to work as a youth leader ~ many had suspicions about him but those are not recorded by the CRB. Ergo no amount of CRB checks would have stopped him.
There is also a difference between that which is recorded by the CRB and those whose names may appear on the sex offenders register.
No system devised by man is ever going to be perfect but the one we have is another political knee jerk reaction that, put simply, is not fit for purpose. Sorry but I have used it often and found it to be flawed. That said I suppose if it stops one pervert then it has done some good.
Remember that the CRB can only record AFTER the event ~ it cannot predict nor does it hold records of suspicions ~ only convictions.
Of course it is flawed, but better than just relying on the vicar thinking they seem OK and regularly attend church.
Sorry Growler, but mini-Moose is only 5 years younger than Myra Hindley when she started. You and we know the Moose is OK, but others don't.
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And she will have to pay for the privilege of having one!
Not so.
If she is doing 'Voluntary work' for little or no pay, it is free: http://www.crb.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=1846 (http://www.crb.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=1846)
Growler would have to pay, being a business, although if he were checked as a result of working (briefly) at a youth club it would be free and the check would still hold for Swamp Inc. . . whistle:
Whatever. Money isn't the main issue here anyway, it's the bloody principle of it.
IT STINKS! cussing:
Sorry old chap, I disagree.
If we put our children in the care others it is a comfort to know they are not perverts or violent rather than allow the likes of Fred West to be scoutmaster or whatever.
Ah ~ if only it worked that way ~ but of course it does not. Dunblane would still have happened. The man was legally in possession of the firearms, cleared to work as a youth leader ~ many had suspicions about him but those are not recorded by the CRB. Ergo no amount of CRB checks would have stopped him.
There is also a difference between that which is recorded by the CRB and those whose names may appear on the sex offenders register.
No system devised by man is ever going to be perfect but the one we have is another political knee jerk reaction that, put simply, is not fit for purpose. Sorry but I have used it often and found it to be flawed. That said I suppose if it stops one pervert then it has done some good.
Remember that the CRB can only record AFTER the event ~ it cannot predict nor does it hold records of suspicions ~ only convictions.
My point. Precisely. 10/10. That's what I should have said in the first place. ::)
And thus saved us hours noooo:
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Sorry Growler, but mini-Moose is only 5 years younger than Myra Hindley when she started. You and we know the Moose is OK, but others don't.
The point is that some of the we here don't know.
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Maybe you could post a pic of your special trousers
Would you like a picture of my special trousers little boy...?
Nah, lets us see your cock...
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eeek:
Have you been on the Sanatogen again lol:
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Most of the public sector jobs I have applied for recently seem to require a CRB check though in most cases they will arrange it and pay for it or refund the costs.
Mind you, I aint 14. censored: