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Title: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Miss Demeanour on August 04, 2008, 07:49:12 PM

After two fabulous weeks of glorious sunshine, amazingly warm turquoise seas, great food and great company I have returned from my hols today.

Since being back I have already shouted at the neighbours kids for kicking a football so hard against my front door then running away and hiding behind a car to pretend they hadn't done it -   evil:

I have sorted through piles of mail and bills  cry:

I have a pile of washing to do and little inclination to do it  noooo:

And worst of all the prospect of work tomorrow .................. pcwhack:

I need something to inspire me ....suggestions anyone  confused2:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Barman on August 05, 2008, 04:55:09 AM
Well, we were here when you came back – something to rely on like a comfortable pair of old shoes…  whistle:
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Post by: Snoopy on August 05, 2008, 07:50:37 AM
And from our point of view ~ You are back ...... which is a very good reason for us to be cheerful.  cloud9:
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Post by: Nick on August 05, 2008, 07:51:18 AM
Did you burn your luggage?
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Post by: Uncle Mort on August 05, 2008, 07:57:17 AM
Welcome back. Did you have a holiday romance?
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Post by: Nick on August 05, 2008, 07:58:12 AM
Excellent Uncle.I shall await news with interest.

(GOes off to get some popcorn)
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Miss Demeanour on August 05, 2008, 08:36:01 AM
Snoopy / Barman - ahhhh shucks thank you ....you can always be relied upon eh   angel1

Nick - didn't burn my luggage -  I did with parts of my body though  - ouch  cry: Although they were selling OMO in the local shop and I did actually think of you and laugh - in a good way of course (not like they do on here  lol:)

Uncle -  redface: I had one proposal of marriage which I took to be genuine of course  noooo: But a couple of lovely nights out  cloud9:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 05, 2008, 08:38:17 AM
  redface: I had one proposal of marriage which I took to be genuine of course  noooo: But a couple of lovely nights out  cloud9:


 eeek: eeek: eeek:

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Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Miss Demeanour on August 05, 2008, 08:44:47 AM
 happy001

You are so cynical Snoops  ;D......a bit of heat stroke does not cloud my judgement  rubschin:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: tel on August 05, 2008, 08:47:16 AM
happy001

You are so cynical Snoops  ;D......a bit of heat stroke does not cloud my judgement  rubschin:

And the alcohol doesn't either?
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 05, 2008, 08:48:23 AM
Not really cynical.
 
I just had this mental image of some swarthy native growling "I want to fook you" in your shell-like.  8)
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Miss Demeanour on August 05, 2008, 08:54:20 AM

I just had this mental image of some swarthy native growling "I want to cook you" in your shell-like.  8)

 eeek:



Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Miss Demeanour on August 05, 2008, 08:58:37 AM
happy001

You are so cynical Snoops  ;D......a bit of heat stroke does not cloud my judgement  rubschin:

And the alcohol doesn't either?

Fraid I was really wimpy when it came to the drinks - they were so bloody strong  - so no huge hangovers for me in the sun. The absolute perfect example of moderate british behaviour   angel1
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: The Moan Ranger on August 05, 2008, 08:59:58 AM
Not really cynical.
 
I just had this mental image of some swarthy native growling "I want to fook you" in your shell-like.  8)

Don't tell me you're jealous, Snoops?  eeek:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 05, 2008, 09:22:08 AM
I am reminded of a poster advertising Club 18-30 holidays which I saw many years ago.

It read

"Something deep inside her told her she would come again"

 eeek:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: TG on August 05, 2008, 09:40:27 AM
At present, the only reason to be cheerful I have is that I am not dead.
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 05, 2008, 09:42:39 AM
But if you were dead you would not be un-cheerful!


Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Uncle Mort on August 05, 2008, 09:51:00 AM
Reason not to be cheerful:

I'm off to meeting with our insurance broker and a couple of insurance company reps shortly.

DULL, DULL, DULL.

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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Post by: Darwins Selection on August 05, 2008, 09:57:55 AM
"I want to fook you in your shell-like."

Is that the 'aural sex' people keep going on about?


I obviously had quite the wrong idea.  redface:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: tel on August 05, 2008, 10:11:36 AM
happy001

You are so cynical Snoops  ;D......a bit of heat stroke does not cloud my judgement  rubschin:

And the alcohol doesn't either?

Fraid I was really wimpy when it came to the drinks - they were so bloody strong  - so no huge hangovers for me in the sun. The absolute perfect example of moderate british behaviour   angel1

I would happily swap this dismal weather for a hangover in the sun.
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 05, 2008, 10:15:25 AM
"I want to fook you in your shell-like."

Is that the 'aural sex' people keep going on about?


I obviously had quite the wrong idea.  redface:

My ex was big on oral sex ~ in fact that's all she did .... talk about it  ::)
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: The Moan Ranger on August 05, 2008, 10:18:04 AM
Another reason to be cheerful - our glorious leader has a cunning plan!

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Ministers-Consider-Plans-To-Temporarily-Scrap-Stamp-Duty-To-Boost-Housing-Market/Article/200808115070980?lpos=Business_0&lid=ARTICLE_15070980_Ministers%2BConsider%2BPlans%2BTo%2BTemporarily%2BScrap%2BStamp%2BDuty%2BTo%2BBoost%2BHousing%2BMarket%2B
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 05, 2008, 10:19:08 AM
Reason to be cheerful?????

Snoopy minor is ten today. I am about to take a horde of small boys to Pizza Hut for lunch and thence to the cinema to see "Space Chimps".








I am feeling Eeyorish about the whole thing.  noooo:


See you all this evening ~ if I survive
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 05, 2008, 10:19:37 AM
Another reason to be cheerful - our glorious leader has a cunning plan!

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Ministers-Consider-Plans-To-Temporarily-Scrap-Stamp-Duty-To-Boost-Housing-Market/Article/200808115070980?lpos=Business_0&lid=ARTICLE_15070980_Ministers%2BConsider%2BPlans%2BTo%2BTemporarily%2BScrap%2BStamp%2BDuty%2BTo%2BBoost%2BHousing%2BMarket%2B


So he wants to fook us all then. evil:
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Post by: Berek on August 05, 2008, 10:19:59 AM
round or skinny bottoms !!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFcemluz6XA
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Darwins Selection on August 05, 2008, 10:34:44 AM
Another reason to be cheerful - our glorious leader has a cunning plan!

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Ministers-Consider-Plans-To-Temporarily-Scrap-Stamp-Duty-To-Boost-Housing-Market/Article/200808115070980?lpos=Business_0&lid=ARTICLE_15070980_Ministers%2BConsider%2BPlans%2BTo%2BTemporarily%2BScrap%2BStamp%2BDuty%2BTo%2BBoost%2BHousing%2BMarket%2B


So from where will he get the cash not raised by stamp duty?

We are indeed doomed. noooo:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Miss Demeanour on August 05, 2008, 10:49:27 AM


I would happily swap this dismal weather for a hangover in the sun.

You would have hated it  lol:

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Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: tel on August 05, 2008, 10:51:01 AM


I would happily swap this dismal weather for a hangover in the sun.

You would have hated it  lol:

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It looks very boring. And empty!
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Post by: Darwins Selection on August 05, 2008, 11:03:53 AM


I would happily swap this dismal weather for a hangover in the sun.

You would have hated it  lol:

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Yes, it looks terrible.









 cussing:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Uncle Mort on August 05, 2008, 12:23:57 PM
Reason to be cheerful.

I survived the meeting. (just  eeek:)

Even the rep prefaced a couple of remarks with "I know this is a bit dull but..."
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Barman on August 05, 2008, 01:11:57 PM
I loathe meetings...  noooo:
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Post by: Uncle Mort on August 05, 2008, 01:28:59 PM
I'm not overkeen on them myself. Best to be in the 'Chair' so you can speed them along.
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Post by: Just One More on August 05, 2008, 01:30:48 PM
I do every thing I can to avoid meetings, my time can be spent better elsewhere for most of the time I'm in there.

I have a meeting of sorts later this afternoon, my first job interview in 19 years.  scared2: And on Friday I have a second job interview to attend  scared2: scared2:
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Post by: Uncle Mort on August 05, 2008, 01:33:36 PM
Crikey! - good luck.
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Post by: Barman on August 05, 2008, 01:37:11 PM
I'm not overkeen on them myself. Best to be in the 'Chair' so you can speed them along.
I know... there are so many people that seem to enjoy them and just go on forever... get a life you bastards!  cussing:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Barman on August 05, 2008, 01:38:14 PM
I do every thing I can to avoid meetings, my time can be spent better elsewhere for most of the time I'm in there.

I have a meeting of sorts later this afternoon, my first job interview in 19 years.  scared2: And on Friday I have a second job interview to attend  scared2: scared2:
Good luck to you... act like they need you more than you need them!  ;)
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: The Moan Ranger on August 05, 2008, 01:49:55 PM
I am no longer invited to meetings in my place - apparently I am "confrontational" and "dismissive of others".  And that's before lunch...

Still, not long to go now... cloud9:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 05, 2008, 02:47:27 PM
I used to get out of going to meetings by pretending that I had another meeting to go to somewhere else
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Post by: tel on August 05, 2008, 02:49:06 PM
Not a meeting as such.

I have an job interview on Friday - job is near Epsom horse track, interview is in Reading. Just been sent details of the interview -this is after a 30 minute tel call yesterday, woth the helpdesk mgr.

Your interview will be in four parts as follows:

·         20-30 minutes with F for HR Screening

·         20-30 minutes with R, the Helpdesk Manager and client relationship manager for Toyota

·         15-20 minutes with one of the  technical consultants to gauge your technical experience and skills

·         30 minutes for an aptitude test

Oh and if there is a Toyota person around, they will talk to me as well.

I haven't been near an aptitude test since 1972!
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 05, 2008, 02:49:53 PM
Aptitude for what?
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Post by: The Moan Ranger on August 05, 2008, 02:57:15 PM
An aptitude for Young's :-)

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Post by: tel on August 05, 2008, 03:07:34 PM
I shall be supping, very soon.

I think the test is to find Reading, even if it is by train.
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: The Moan Ranger on August 05, 2008, 03:12:34 PM
Reading should be napalmed.
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Post by: Snoopy on August 05, 2008, 03:54:32 PM
Another reason to be cheerful - our glorious leader has a cunning plan!

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Business/Ministers-Consider-Plans-To-Temporarily-Scrap-Stamp-Duty-To-Boost-Housing-Market/Article/200808115070980?lpos=Business_0&lid=ARTICLE_15070980_Ministers%2BConsider%2BPlans%2BTo%2BTemporarily%2BScrap%2BStamp%2BDuty%2BTo%2BBoost%2BHousing%2BMarket%2B


So from where will he get the cash not raised by stamp duty?

We are indeed doomed. noooo:

According to the Radio News as I was driving along about half an hour ago the plan is not to scrap the stamp duty but rather to "defer" it so that you don't have to pay it immediately on completion of purchase but at some date in the future (yet to be decided). Estate Agents, Mortgage Brokers and Lawyers have all voiced strong "concerns".

Utter bollox of course. Just another way of pretendingto help whilst sending people even deeper into debt. How long before some bright spark at a mortgage company comes up with a plan to include the stamp duty in your 25 year loan.
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Post by: Darwins Selection on August 05, 2008, 04:13:49 PM
Reading should be napalmed.

 eeek: eeek: eeek:

Mrs DS (#3) has relatives living there.



 rubschin:
Do you need a pilot?
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 05, 2008, 04:27:08 PM
Can you fire napalm from a tractor?  rubschin:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Mrs TG on August 05, 2008, 04:46:10 PM
Not cheerful and not happy, tgs and some other staff getting a 5% pay cut for next three months to try save the company, although it dont seem a lot its a lot to us! as prices of everything going up, and no pay rise for last few yrs, i am at a loss, and i have screamed every swear word possible..... noooo:

at least i still got my kitty to cheer me up!
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Post by: Barman on August 05, 2008, 04:47:15 PM
Not cheerful and not happy, tgs and some other staff getting a 5% pay cut for next three months to try save the company, although it dont seem a lot its a lot to us! as prices of everything going up, and no pay rise for last few yrs, i am at a loss, and i have screamed every swear word possible..... noooo:

at least i still got my kitty to cheer me up!
And us!  whistle:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 05, 2008, 04:52:51 PM
Not cheerful and not happy, tgs and some other staff getting a 5% pay cut for next three months to try save the company, although it dont seem a lot its a lot to us! as prices of everything going up, and no pay rise for last few yrs, i am at a loss, and i have screamed every swear word possible..... noooo:

at least i still got my kitty to cheer me up!

Nothing like stroking a pussy to cheer you up.  whistle:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Darwins Selection on August 05, 2008, 07:08:25 PM
Not cheerful and not happy, tgs and some other staff getting a 5% pay cut for next three months to try save the company, although it dont seem a lot its a lot to us! as prices of everything going up, and no pay rise for last few yrs, i am at a loss, and i have screamed every swear word possible..... noooo:

at least i still got my kitty to cheer me up!

Nothing like stroking a pussy to cheer you up.  whistle:

 noooo: Shame on you!

The poor girl is obviously upset and all you do is bandy cheap double entendres.

She thought everything was OK and there were no concerns, and now TG has given her one.
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 06, 2008, 08:08:12 AM
Not cheerful and not happy, tgs and some other staff getting a 5% pay cut for next three months to try save the company, although it dont seem a lot its a lot to us! as prices of everything going up, and no pay rise for last few yrs, i am at a loss, and i have screamed every swear word possible..... noooo:

at least i still got my kitty to cheer me up!

Nothing like stroking a pussy to cheer you up.  whistle:

 noooo: Shame on you!

The poor girl is obviously upset and all you do is bandy cheap double entendres.

She thought everything was OK and there were no concerns, and now TG has given her one.

HONI SOIT QUI MAL Y PENSE  whistle:
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Post by: Darwins Selection on August 06, 2008, 08:38:10 AM
Not cheerful and not happy, tgs and some other staff getting a 5% pay cut for next three months to try save the company, although it dont seem a lot its a lot to us! as prices of everything going up, and no pay rise for last few yrs, i am at a loss, and i have screamed every swear word possible..... noooo:

at least i still got my kitty to cheer me up!

Nothing like stroking a pussy to cheer you up.  whistle:

 noooo: Shame on you!

The poor girl is obviously upset and all you do is bandy cheap double entendres.

She thought everything was OK and there were no concerns, and now TG has given her one.

HONI SOIT QUI MAL Y PENSE  whistle:


 condemnant quod non intellegunt
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Mrs TG on August 06, 2008, 08:39:19 AM
Not cheerful and not happy, tgs and some other staff getting a 5% pay cut for next three months to try save the company, although it dont seem a lot its a lot to us! as prices of everything going up, and no pay rise for last few yrs, i am at a loss, and i have screamed every swear word possible..... noooo:

at least i still got my kitty to cheer me up!

Nothing like stroking a pussy to cheer you up.  whistle:

 noooo: Shame on you!

The poor girl is obviously upset and all you do is bandy cheap double entendres.

She thought everything was OK and there were no concerns, and now TG has given her one.



thanks for that support, nice some1 gives there thoughts an concerns...as i am so angrrrry i tell you! cussing:
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Post by: Darwins Selection on August 06, 2008, 08:42:06 AM
Not cheerful and not happy, tgs and some other staff getting a 5% pay cut for next three months to try save the company, although it dont seem a lot its a lot to us! as prices of everything going up, and no pay rise for last few yrs, i am at a loss, and i have screamed every swear word possible..... noooo:

at least i still got my kitty to cheer me up!

Nothing like stroking a pussy to cheer you up.  whistle:

 noooo: Shame on you!

The poor girl is obviously upset and all you do is bandy cheap double entendres.

She thought everything was OK and there were no concerns, and now TG has given her one.



thanks for that support, nice some1 gives there thoughts an concerns...as i am so angrrrry i tell you! cussing:


 redface:
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Post by: Nick on August 06, 2008, 08:44:57 AM
 rubschin:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Just One More on August 06, 2008, 09:16:27 AM
I do every thing I can to avoid meetings, my time can be spent better elsewhere for most of the time I'm in there.

I have a meeting of sorts later this afternoon, my first job interview in 19 years.  scared2: And on Friday I have a second job interview to attend  scared2: scared2:

One interview done, one job offered this morning, we have to meet somewhere my side of the middle on T's and C's though
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Mrs TG on August 06, 2008, 09:20:39 AM
I do every thing I can to avoid meetings, my time can be spent better elsewhere for most of the time I'm in there.

I have a meeting of sorts later this afternoon, my first job interview in 19 years.  scared2: And on Friday I have a second job interview to attend  scared2: scared2:

One interview done, one job offered this morning, we have to meet somewhere my side of the middle on T's and C's though

Give TG some tips on new careers i think he needs it now!  Banghead
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Post by: Nick on August 06, 2008, 09:28:42 AM
Tree felling?

All you need is chainsaw and a truck
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 06, 2008, 09:35:50 AM
We did suggest he baled out when this all started. I know it's hard to leave when you've been there for many years but sometimes it is the best option. Bugger the pittance that redundancy may offer ..... he has already established that they are only going to pay the minimum and that depends on there being any money left once they go under  ~ and I think we can all see that they are going to.
Career choices ~ anything would be better than nothing but what can he do? We have no idea what his qualifications may be, nor what he actually does now (apart from spend time here and support Leicester City).
Anyone can do anything or be anyone if they really want to but I would recommend multiple income streams. Three or four part time jobs are better than one poorly paid full time job in the current climate. If he has a pension built up over the years look to secure and then add to that from his part time incomes, if he hasn't then forget it. It is now too late to start a new plan and any pension accrued from now on will only serve to kick you in the nuts when you need to claim benefits in old age.
Do not get on this "I've never claimed benefits and don't ever intend to" stupidity either. You are entitled, you have paid in and when the time comes take the b@st@rds for every penny you can get. What you don't claim some other sod will.
End of lecture.
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: The Moan Ranger on August 06, 2008, 09:48:27 AM
We did suggest he baled out when this all started. I know it's hard to leave when you've been there for many years but sometimes it is the best option. Bugger the pittance that redundancy may offer ..... he has already established that they are only going to pay the minimum and that depends on there being any money left once they go under  ~ and I think we can all see that they are going to.
Career choices ~ anything would be better than nothing but what can he do? We have no idea what his qualifications may be, nor what he actually does now (apart from spend time here and support Leicester City).
Anyone can do anything or be anyone if they really want to but I would recommend multiple income streams. Three or four part time jobs are better than one poorly paid full time job in the current climate. If he has a pension built up over the years look to secure and then add to that from his part time incomes, if he hasn't then forget it. It is now too late to start a new plan and any pension accrued from now on will only serve to kick you in the nuts when you need to claim benefits in old age.
Do not get on this "I've never claimed benefits and don't ever intend to" stupidity either. You are entitled, you have paid in and when the time comes take the b@st@rds for every penny you can get. What you don't claim some other sod will.
End of lecture.

 happ096 Wot he said.
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 06, 2008, 09:54:38 AM
Tree felling?

All you need is chainsaw and a truck

Nephew ~ referred to earlier ~ does this in Dorset. He has a partner and has "qualified" as a tree specialist
(This is a series of week long and one day courses spread over a number of years at various agricultural colleges).
His declared income is £30k plus per annum from contract work for various councils and does not include the cash for logs on the side.
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 06, 2008, 10:04:01 AM
Bob's your uncle!
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 06, 2008, 10:07:51 AM
Bob's your uncle!
Fanny's your Aunt and Dick is your best friend! 


As an afterthought ~ Statutory Redundancy is based on average earnings over a period of time prior to the actual redundancy ~ thus it would seem that acceptance of a lower rate of pay could well result in a lower redundancy payment when the time comes.
TG's current employers would seem to have a decent accountant working for them.whistle:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Mrs TG on August 06, 2008, 10:15:24 AM
Bob's your uncle!
Fanny's your Aunt and Dick is your best friend! 


As an afterthought ~ Statutory Redundancy is based on average earnings over a period of time prior to the actual redundancy ~ thus it would seem that acceptance of a lower rate of pay could well result in a lower redundancy payment when the time comes.
TG's current employers would seem to have a decent accountant working for them.whistle:


too right...but the posh company cars still seem to be running, they shud get rid of the ones that dont really need em an downgrade the bigger ones..but that wont happen will it, the workers get poorer an craped on as always...
watch this space... Banghead

Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Mrs TG on August 06, 2008, 11:18:32 AM
Bob's your uncle!
Fanny's your Aunt and Dick is your best friend! 


As an afterthought ~ Statutory Redundancy is based on average earnings over a period of time prior to the actual redundancy ~ thus it would seem that acceptance of a lower rate of pay could well result in a lower redundancy payment when the time comes.
TG's current employers would seem to have a decent accountant working for them.whistle:


Yep the cut off limit that the goverment have imposed is 20 yrs so anything over that dont count
he would get 7,000 thats the most he could have....so much for all that loyality, but as i said they aint got that to pay him off anyway!

cant wait till we pensioners as i am going to claim what i can, as we dont have property or any money, as in our age bracket now we cant get anything as we dont have school age kids anymore, so nothing we can claim for although we work etc! so pay in an cant get anything out!.. noooo:
the working tax creds system amazes me, i know people who earn more than us and can get hundreds a month, because they work it out  on yr previous yrs earning. I know child tax creds are  diff you can get them if u earn quite a lot. shall i have another baby...NOT!  scared2:
i never got anything exept family allowance wen mine where younger..!  whistle:
oh well moan over... sad24:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 06, 2008, 12:35:48 PM
A mate of mine locally owns over 100 houses in Chester for rent to students: net value £10 million. Annual gross rent income? c. £1 million. His "company" makes a loss every year. He gets £7K p.a. tax credit for his daughter on the basis of this loss.

He is worth millions and always drives top of the range cars.

It's the sytem I tells ya. He knows how to exploit it
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 06, 2008, 12:36:47 PM
 whistle:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 06, 2008, 12:37:32 PM
Why the whistle?
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 06, 2008, 12:39:24 PM
Money always makes me feel tuneful.
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Uncle Mort on August 06, 2008, 12:41:20 PM
A mate of mine locally owns over 100 houses in Chester for rent to students: net value £10 million. Annual gross rent income? c. £1 million. His "company" makes a loss every year. He gets £7K p.a. tax credit for his daughter on the basis of this loss.

He is worth millions and always drives top of the range cars.

It's the sytem I tells ya. He knows how to exploit it

 cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 06, 2008, 12:41:42 PM
He is 40 and effectively retired. He collects the rent and pays his idiot brother to do the painting and decorating.

Gorrit made!


 evil:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 06, 2008, 12:43:30 PM
A mate of mine locally owns over 100 houses in Chester for rent to students: net value £10 million. Annual gross rent income? c. £1 million. His "company" makes a loss every year. He gets £7K p.a. tax credit for his daughter on the basis of this loss.

He is worth millions and always drives top of the range cars.

It's the sytem I tells ya. He knows how to exploit it

 cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing:

Quite. He is a nice guy. No edercashun to speak of, but he knows how the world works. Big gaff in Anglesey too, with a private beach. He also has lots of toys...........

I would hate him, but he is too nice.

Even though Welsh  evil:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 06, 2008, 12:44:41 PM
Like I said ~ you can be anything you want to be ...................... I forgot to add "If you want it bad enough"


Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Uncle Mort on August 06, 2008, 12:46:35 PM
It's time the 'system' was dismantled. It's far to open to abuse.

He may be a nice man but has he no scruples?
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 06, 2008, 12:47:36 PM
I refer the Honourable Member to my previous statement .............. "If you want it bad enough"
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 06, 2008, 12:47:59 PM
As far as he is concerned if NuLabour want to throw money at him he will have it. If his accountant shows him legal ways to write off his assets and income as depreciation and expenses, he will do.

So would I
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: The Moan Ranger on August 06, 2008, 12:48:08 PM
Money and scruples usually are mutually exclusive. Unfortunately.
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 06, 2008, 12:49:07 PM
I assume you have plenty of scruples then.

What do they look like?

(Photo request)

 eveilgrin:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 06, 2008, 12:50:17 PM
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fantasticfiction.co.uk%2Fimages%2Fn21%2Fn109749.jpg&hash=ee1bfefe8c5cdc051eb93a1ef20572b088ada358)
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Uncle Mort on August 06, 2008, 01:57:26 PM
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person in the country paying their full wack in taxes.

 cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 06, 2008, 01:09:06 PM
 happy100
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 06, 2008, 01:18:07 PM
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person in the country paying their full wack in taxes.

 cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing:

You should see what Gordon takes out of my small pension. censored:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Uncle Mort on August 06, 2008, 01:20:09 PM
Thanks Nick.

I wouldn't mind so much if was wasn't for the sheer profligacy of Gordon & Co. "Tightfisted Scots"? - not with other people's money. 

cussing: x100

And don't get me started on taxing pensions   Banghead
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 06, 2008, 01:24:46 PM
Name me one thing which is not multiply taxed(apart from sex)
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Mrs TG on August 06, 2008, 01:27:20 PM
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person in the country paying their full wack in taxes.

 cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing:

You should see what Gordon takes out of my small pension. censored:

I can well imagine, thats why i will go into pensionhood with sod all.... noooo:

my dad although worked all his life, dident have anything in property or savings when he retired,as he had us five kids to bring up, so he got his  flat rent and council tax paid for...
i am on thinking why bother having anything wen old, i wont anyway, cant afford to save up an cant get on property ladder... sad24:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 06, 2008, 01:28:27 PM
Trouble is, that at present rate of spiral, the State will be bankrupt when we retire and prices will be at global proportions.

Invest now in tinned food!
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Miss Demeanour on August 06, 2008, 01:31:06 PM
Money and scruples usually are mutually exclusive. Unfortunately.

So what price then to abandon your scruples ??????
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 06, 2008, 01:32:18 PM
Enough to retire to a villa in the Greek islands
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Miss Demeanour on August 06, 2008, 01:32:49 PM
Enough to retire to a villa in the Greek islands

alone ????????????
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: The Moan Ranger on August 06, 2008, 01:35:52 PM
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person in the country paying their full wack in taxes.

 cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing:

You are not alone. And don't get me started on the huge whack of cash badger face Darling takes out of my redundancy.  cussing:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 06, 2008, 02:19:08 PM
Enough to retire to a villa in the Greek islands

alone ????????????

You can come too if you like  eyes:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Miss Demeanour on August 06, 2008, 02:52:50 PM
I'm not sure I could find an insurance policy that would cover me  eeek:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 06, 2008, 05:01:40 PM
Fearnot my little chickadee.You will be quite safe with me  eyes:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Mrs TG on August 06, 2008, 05:32:08 PM
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person in the country paying their full wack in taxes.

 cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing:

You are not alone. And don't get me started on the huge whack of cash badger face Darling takes out of my redundancy.  cussing:

Isnt Redundancy pay exempt from tax?
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 06, 2008, 05:42:45 PM
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person in the country paying their full wack in taxes.

 cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing:

You are not alone. And don't get me started on the huge whack of cash badger face Darling takes out of my redundancy.  cussing:

Isnt Redundancy pay exempt from tax?

No!
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: TG on August 06, 2008, 05:58:03 PM
Sometimes I feel like I'm the only person in the country paying their full wack in taxes.

 cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing: cussing:

You are not alone. And don't get me started on the huge whack of cash badger face Darling takes out of my redundancy.  cussing:

Isnt Redundancy pay exempt from tax?

No!

Yes!

Unless over £30k.

http://www.redundancyhelp.co.uk/MonTax.htm
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 06, 2008, 06:03:32 PM
However much it is it will still be counted against any benefits you try to claim. Find another job and forget the pittance.
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: TG on August 06, 2008, 06:08:03 PM
However much it is it will still be counted against any benefits you try to claim. Find another job and forget the pittance.

I am about to start CV writing. I am looking into what is required on one these days.

I am advised in an employment article in the local rag that they should nowadays be written exclusively in the third person.  eeek:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Mrs TG on August 06, 2008, 06:37:41 PM
However much it is it will still be counted against any benefits you try to claim. Find another job and forget the pittance.

I would soon be rid of it if we were to get the whole 7k, then again i would hope that another job would be in pipeline, an not having to claim anything, as we wouldent get sod all anyway... noooo:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: The Moan Ranger on August 06, 2008, 08:31:28 PM
The first 30 grand is tax free, the rest is likely to be taxed at 40%. You can still claim NI/jobseekers though as it is contribution based for the first bit.

Once that has expired, it is means tested.

Mrs TMR (to be) signed on today - we have paid in, thus we shall take out.

Which is sad.
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Mrs TG on August 07, 2008, 06:59:50 AM
The first 30 grand is tax free, the rest is likely to be taxed at 40%. You can still claim NI/jobseekers though as it is contribution based for the first bit.

Once that has expired, it is means tested.

Mrs TMR (to be) signed on today - we have paid in, thus we shall take out.

Which is sad.

maybe, but get what you can, you work hard enough!  whistle:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 07, 2008, 07:47:40 AM
Technically Job Seekers Allowance is not a benefit as it is not means tested. Income Support, Council Tax Benefit etc are and with them redundancy money is taken into account as are any savings, premium bonds, wife's income etc.
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 07, 2008, 09:13:40 AM
However much it is it will still be counted against any benefits you try to claim. Find another job and forget the pittance.

I am about to start CV writing. I am looking into what is required on one these days.

I am advised in an employment article in the local rag that they should nowadays be written exclusively in the third person.  eeek:

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Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Miss Demeanour on August 07, 2008, 09:19:44 AM
We recently did a round of recruitment. I love looking at CV's - some people are so bloody stupid.

There were 2 that particularly stood out for me..... one bloke wrote 6 pages of his life story in the additional information section and then signed off  with "much love xxx". What a prat.

The other declared he had convictions - so we had to contact him to ask for clariification of what these were. 1st conviction was for possession of an illegal substance. 2nd conviction 2 years later was for possession of a dangerous weapon (he said he was a trainee chef and was just on his way to his mates to cook dinner and so had bought his own knives  happy001. 3rd conviction was for intention to supply.

Then he proceeded to want feedback about why he was not shortlisted  Banghead
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: The Moan Ranger on August 07, 2008, 09:26:16 AM
Whenever I get a stack of CVs I immediately throw half of them away.

This weeds out unlucky people.
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Barman on August 07, 2008, 09:27:55 AM
Whenever I get a stack of CVs I immediately throw half of them away.

This weeds out unlucky people.
drumroll:

Now where did I read that first...  rubschin:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Uncle Mort on August 07, 2008, 09:29:48 AM
Whenever I get a stack of CVs I immediately throw half of them away.

This weeds out unlucky people.

Of course you could be the unlucky person and consequently have throw out the good candidates.  ;)
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Nick on August 07, 2008, 09:31:01 AM
I was once compelled by HR to interview a guy for a job cos of "Equal Opportunities".Chinese, Only one eye and partially sighted in the other.

And he wanted to be a graphic designer  noooo:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: The Moan Ranger on August 07, 2008, 09:36:38 AM
Whenever I get a stack of CVs I immediately throw half of them away.

This weeds out unlucky people.
drumroll:

Now where did I read that first...  rubschin:

 whistle: Somewhere else?
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Barman on August 07, 2008, 09:37:15 AM
Whenever I get a stack of CVs I immediately throw half of them away.

This weeds out unlucky people.
drumroll:

Now where did I read that first...  rubschin:

 whistle: Somewhere else?
ye-es...  rubschin:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: tel on August 07, 2008, 09:38:54 AM
Technically Job Seekers Allowance is not a benefit as it is not means tested. Income Support, Council Tax Benefit etc are and with them redundancy money is taken into account as are any savings, premium bonds, wife's income etc.

It is contribution based for a certain amount of time (mine stops in November) and then it becomes income based.
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: The Moan Ranger on August 07, 2008, 10:25:27 AM
Bored.




Extremely bored.
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Barman on August 07, 2008, 10:45:15 AM
Bored.




Extremely bored.

How can I help you...?  whistle:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: The Moan Ranger on August 07, 2008, 11:36:18 AM
Our main software distribution server has just died. Proper died! Hurrah!
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Barman on August 07, 2008, 12:35:53 PM
Our main software distribution server has just died. Proper died! Hurrah!
You 'fixed' it then did you...?  whistle:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: The Moan Ranger on August 07, 2008, 01:53:40 PM
Erm...it had smoke coming out of it... noooo:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: tel on August 07, 2008, 01:57:25 PM
I trust you used the correct extinguisher?
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: The Moan Ranger on August 07, 2008, 02:06:54 PM
As it was smoking, I took the opportunity to light a fag as a near final display of defiance!

The powder extinguisher made an holy mess after, mind...
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: tel on August 07, 2008, 02:23:24 PM
That's the way to do it.
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Uncle Mort on August 07, 2008, 02:34:23 PM
You are Mr. Punch and I claim my £5. (and a string of sausages) 
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: tel on August 07, 2008, 02:42:44 PM
Sorry, I'm off to school. Well an interview at a school.

In leafy Leatherhead.
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Grumpmeister on August 07, 2008, 03:07:07 PM
I need something to inspire me ....suggestions anyone  confused2:

Its simply a matter of looking at it in perspective m'dear. Just remember it could always be worse, you could be Nick.  whistle:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Miss Demeanour on August 07, 2008, 03:34:05 PM
I need something to inspire me ....suggestions anyone  confused2:

Its simply a matter of looking at it in perspective m'dear. Just remember it could always be worse, you could be Nick.  whistle:


Couldn't give a flying fig about perspective....I don't wanna be here and that is that  angry041:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 07, 2008, 03:35:33 PM
Postvacationalsyndrome  tunble:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Grumpmeister on August 07, 2008, 03:39:16 PM
I need something to inspire me ....suggestions anyone  confused2:

Its simply a matter of looking at it in perspective m'dear. Just remember it could always be worse, you could be Nick.  whistle:


Couldn't give a flying fig about perspective....I don't wanna be here and that is that  angry041:


 scared:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Mrs TG on August 07, 2008, 05:59:09 PM
realising my little baby kitty was running round with a real dead mouse an not a toy..did make me laugh, but scream too... scared2:

he dam left it in middle of kitchen floor, took me hour to persuade myself to geT the dustpan an scoop it over the back fence, it nearly had to wait till tg come home, but i am brave girl! point:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Grumpmeister on August 08, 2008, 09:11:29 AM
That wasnt very nice Mrs TG, poor little soul probably worked really hard to catch that mouse to give you as a present and you just throw it away...  whistle:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 08, 2008, 09:38:42 AM
Typical wimmin ~ never appreciate the efforts we males go to in our attempts to please them  ;)
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Miss Demeanour on August 08, 2008, 02:57:43 PM
Typical wimmin ~ never appreciate the efforts we males go to in our attempts to please them  ;)

Typical bloke ....wants to be stroked for just being awake  ::)

Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 08, 2008, 02:59:02 PM
Typical wimmin ~ never appreciate the efforts we males go to in our attempts to please them  ;)

Typical bloke ....wants to be stroked for just being awake  ::)



 lol: lol: lol:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Barman on August 08, 2008, 02:59:10 PM
Typical wimmin ~ never appreciate the efforts we males go to in our attempts to please them  ;)

Typical bloke ....wants to be stroked for just being awake  ::)


And...?  rubschin:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 08, 2008, 03:03:33 PM
Typical wimmin ~ never appreciate the efforts we males go to in our attempts to please them  ;)

Typical bloke ....wants to be stroked for just being awake  ::)


And...?  rubschin:

And having been stroked to his satisfaction he promptly falls asleep ~ who want conversation anyway?
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Barman on August 08, 2008, 03:04:29 PM
Typical wimmin ~ never appreciate the efforts we males go to in our attempts to please them  ;)

Typical bloke ....wants to be stroked for just being awake  ::)


And...?  rubschin:


And having been stroked to his satisfaction he promptly falls asleep ~ who want conversation anyway?
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzz...
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 08, 2008, 03:05:16 PM
Typical wimmin ~ never appreciate the efforts we males go to in our attempts to please them  ;)

Typical bloke ....wants to be stroked for just being awake  ::)


And...?  rubschin:


And having been stroked to his satisfaction he promptly falls asleep ~ who want conversation anyway?
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzz...

I wondered where you'd gone  whistle:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Barman on August 08, 2008, 03:05:53 PM
Typical wimmin ~ never appreciate the efforts we males go to in our attempts to please them  ;)

Typical bloke ....wants to be stroked for just being awake  ::)


And...?  rubschin:


And having been stroked to his satisfaction he promptly falls asleep ~ who want conversation anyway?
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzz...

I wondered where you'd gone  whistle:
A power nap...  ;)
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 08, 2008, 03:06:52 PM
Typical wimmin ~ never appreciate the efforts we males go to in our attempts to please them  ;)

Typical bloke ....wants to be stroked for just being awake  ::)


And...?  rubschin:


And having been stroked to his satisfaction he promptly falls asleep ~ who want conversation anyway?
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzz...

I wondered where you'd gone  whistle:
A power nap...  ;)

Yeah ~ Riiiiiiiight!
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Miss Demeanour on August 08, 2008, 03:15:24 PM
Not a lot of Friday feeling around here  - it has been noted  whistle:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Snoopy on August 08, 2008, 03:17:26 PM
I'll feel your Friday ~ if you show me where it is. whistle:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Barman on August 08, 2008, 03:18:33 PM
Not a lot of Friday feeling around here  - it has been noted  whistle:
here...
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.groundsmorrissmith.com%2Fimages%2Fthumbnails%2Fcrunchie.jpg&hash=42ffb1dee560afad6c6e8fb0374cb73bad2efaf1)
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Miss Demeanour on August 08, 2008, 03:19:13 PM
I'll feel your Friday ~ if you show me where it is. whistle:

Still stuck on a desert island  whistle:
Title: Re: Reasons to be cheerful anyone ??????
Post by: Barman on August 08, 2008, 03:21:28 PM
I'll feel your Friday ~ if you show me where it is. whistle:

Still stuck on a desert island  whistle:
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.leonardrossiter.com%2FLR-CrusoeManFriday.jpg&hash=67c6c4cd9cd8dabed865edb433b79a69e0c3e260)

Friday eh...?  rubschin: