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Come Inside... => The Computer Room => Topic started by: Snoopy on May 10, 2008, 11:44:27 AM
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/09/windows_xp_sp3_reboots_crashes/
It seems that Service Pack 3 is causing all sorts of problems to XP users.
I have turned off the automatic update facility on both MrsS#2's Laptop and that belonging to the THW. The thought of them having an automatic update that caused constant reboots which would mean they would keep running to me to "fix it" is more than I can take. I think we'll manage without this particular Service pack for the time being. SP2 was bad enough.
I, however, coast happily along with my new Vista cloud9: (postings passim)
Tho' I confess that all automaitic updates have long been switched of on that set-up
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/05/09/windows_xp_sp3_reboots_crashes/
It seems that Service Pack 3 is causing all sorts of problems to XP users.
I have turned off the automatic update facility on both MrsS#2's Laptop and that belonging to the THW. The thought of them having an automatic update that caused constant reboots which would mean they would keep running to me to "fix it" is more than I can take. I think we'll manage without this particular Service pack for the time being. SP2 was bad enough.
I, however, coast happily along with my new Vista cloud9: (postings passim)
Tho' I confess that all automaitic updates have long been switched of on that set-up
Very wise...
The cock-up also affected Windows Vista SP1.
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cloud9: See! I can do Geek too. whistle:
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cloud9: See! I can do Geek too. whistle:
Good boy!
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This was guarranteed to happen, the first incarnation of every service pack microsoft have ever released have caused more bugs than they've been meant to fix and now it will be worse as they have a vested interest in forcing us to migrate to Pista.
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Well if I was convinced not to put it on my machine before I'm twice as convinced now.
Owners of some AMD-based computers are finding the move to Windows XP Service Pack 3 has sent their systems into an endless reboot cycle.
Microsoft said in a statement: "While the root cause of this issue is complex, it results from OEMs improperly placing a Windows XP image created for an Intel-based computer onto machines with non-Intel chipsets. Microsoft issued guidance to OEMs advising them to only load Windows XP images onto like hardware in 2004."
The issue was noted late last week on Microsoft forums and by others. Those with a problem are encouraged to contact Microsoft's customer support.
The reboot cycle glitch is the latest hiccup for Microsoft with the service pack update. The company had to delay the release of the XP update after discovering at the 11th hour an incompatibility with Microsoft Dynamics Retail Management System, a retail chain management program for SMEs.
With that issue, customers running Dynamics Retail Management System could face data loss if they run it in conjunction with SP3.
After delaying the release of XP SP3 because of the issue, Microsoft finally made the OS update available last week, after creating a filter to ensure that those running Dynamics RMS did not get offered XP SP3.
Correct me if I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure that apart from the 32 bit and 64 bit specific versions XP is not chipset specific. This sounds like another Microsoft cop out excuse. Banghead
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I did a complete new XP Professional install last night.
It downloaded and installed SP2 then re-booted and downloaded and installed SP3.
Thankfully all appears to be well and the PC is working fine [touches wood].
I can see any major new features in there from SP3, the system seems quite slick but then hey all do before you actually put software on them… noooo:
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Now running on my laptop too... whistle:
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Just installed it on my laptop - touch wood, OK so far.
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I, however, coast happily along with my new Vista cloud9: (postings passim)
Tho' I confess that all automaitic updates have long been switched of on that set-up
As indeed am I on my new Vista PC which I may have mentioned I have. whistle:
Goes like a train. So to speak. cloud9:
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I, however, coast happily along with my new Vista cloud9: (postings passim)
Tho' I confess that all automaitic updates have long been switched of on that set-up
As indeed am I on my new Vista PC which I may have mentioned I have. whistle:
Goes like a train. So to speak. cloud9:
You mean it's covered in imitation cream and has a little cherry on the top?
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cussing: cussing: cussing:
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SP 3 is working fine on my XP machine.
However
Vista on my main home machine cussing:
Yesterday it decided to play up. Running slower and slower and explorer not responding which meant many applications not starting up at all Banghead
After various tries it crashed completely and then took 15 mins to reboot and load windows. Nortons wasn't working and the firewall was turned off. eeek:
System restore, run Nortons update, reboot, still slow. Contemplating restore to factory settings but as I was about to go out I left it running a complete scan.
It was still running the scan when I returned but eventually finished with only one 'fix' (a tracking cookie) Reboot and would you 'adam and eve it', the bloody thing works perfectly.
shrugs:
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SP 3 is working fine on my XP machine.
However
Vista on my main home machine cussing:
Yesterday it decided to play up. Running slower and slower and explorer not responding which meant many applications not starting up at all Banghead
After various tries it crashed completely and then took 15 mins to reboot and load windows. Nortons wasn't working and the firewall was turned off. eeek:
System restore, run Nortons update, reboot, still slow. Contemplating restore to factory settings but as I was about to go out I left it running a complete scan.
It was still running the scan when I returned but eventually finished with only one 'fix' (a tracking cookie) Reboot and would you 'adam and eve it', the bloody thing works perfectly.
shrugs:
Norton... there's your problem right there Uncle... noooo:
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Probably right Banghead - I went to uninstall it yesterday. It wouldn't let me because it said 'Liveupdate' was running rubschin:
I've got AVG on my XP machine happy088
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Probably right Banghead - I went to uninstall it yesterday. It wouldn't let me because it said 'Liveupdate' was running rubschin:
I've got AVG on my XP machine happy088
I like AVG a lot... Norton is complete shite tho... noooo:
Mind you, if it wasn't for those bastards that write viruses we wouldn't need any of it! cussing:
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Probably right Banghead - I went to uninstall it yesterday. It wouldn't let me because it said 'Liveupdate' was running rubschin:
I've got AVG on my XP machine happy088
I like AVG a lot... Norton is complete shite tho... noooo:
Mind you, if it wasn't for those bastards that write viruses we wouldn't need any of it! cussing:
Those b@st@rds all work for Norton and McAfee anyway don't they?
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Probably right Banghead - I went to uninstall it yesterday. It wouldn't let me because it said 'Liveupdate' was running rubschin:
I've got AVG on my XP machine happy088
I like AVG a lot... Norton is complete shite tho... noooo:
Mind you, if it wasn't for those bastards that write viruses we wouldn't need any of it! cussing:
Those b@st@rds all work for Norton and McAfee anyway don't they?
Prolly... Banghead
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AVG cloud9:
Norton evil:
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Woman at pc world tried to sell me norton. ::)
I like AVG. cloud9:
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Since I posted in October my Vista PC has occasionally run slow, not much and it doesn't persist. However, at the weekend it slowed to a crawl and has become almost unusable. (thinks, son was playing games on it)
I've run scans, updates, cleanups (inc the registry!) even chkdsk to no avail.
Yesterday evening I went for system resore back to Friday. Went ok until I logged back in when it reported that the restore hadn't completed due to an 'unspecified' error. Tried a different restore point, same again. Tried another point first thing this morning, same problem.
searching the interwebby I found this:
Norton 2006 and later products have a security feature that prevents outside programs from making changes to the Norton product. This security feature can prevent Windows System Restore from changing Norton files, resulting in the "Restoration Incomplete" message.
Temporarily turn off the Norton product protection before you run Windows System Restore.
Banghead
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AVG with added advantage of being FREE! happy088
First thing I say to geek from whom latest machines have all been purchased is "remove all pre-installed anti virus protection please".
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True, although I paid for the full version of AVG for my XP machine.
I shall try again to remove Nortons.
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AVG with added advantage of being FREE! happy088
First thing I say to geek from whom latest machines have all been purchased is "remove all pre-installed anti virus protection please".
Exactly what I do happy088
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As does any other sensible person. ;)
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Nortons works perfectly well on the laptop. rubschin:
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Right - I turned off Norton's tamper protection as per instructions and ran system restore. It didn't restore Banghead
HOWEVER - noticed that the PC did open Windows a bit quicker and the the 'lag' seemed to have disappeared so I rebooted.
Now seems to working OK rubschin:
The pile o' shite that is Nortons is coming off at the weekend. cussing:
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That certainly seems to be the opinion on the 'Mac' side of the fence too... pile of cackerooni ;)
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Norton is only good if it has two wheels.
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