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Come Inside... => Saloon Bar => Topic started by: Grumpmeister on April 30, 2008, 02:51:04 PM
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I'm not sure what to make of this, on the one hand if he is telling the truth then the poor bugger is going to be penalised because of his family but at the same time I'm not sure I'd want to take the chance of letting him in.
One of Osama Bin Laden's sons is to mount a legal challenge after being refused entry to live in the UK with his 52-year-old British wife.
Omar Osama Bin Laden, 27, was told his visa application had been rejected because of newspaper suggestions he could still be loyal to his father.
He currently lives in Cairo, Egypt with wife Zaina Alsabah-Bin Laden, formerly named Jane Felix-Browne, from Cheshire. Mr Bin Laden, one of 19 siblings, has publicly condemned terrorism.
The couple hoped to move to Mrs Bin Laden's home in the village of Moulton, near Northwich in Cheshire, where she was a member of the parish council until recently.
Mrs Bin Laden, who is severely visually impaired, said she needed access to medical treatment in the UK but refused to be apart from her husband.
'Three chances'
Speaking from Cairo, she said: "It is a lovely place and we have a really nice home, the problem is it's not 'home'.
"Home is where you have family and my home is in England... we are happy here but it's not what we want."
She added: "He has not been banned from coming, he has got three chances to appeal, he has two chances through an appeal judge and one through the European Court of Human Rights."
The couple said the application was finally turned down earlier this month after a six-month wait after an Entry Clearance Officer (ECO) judged that it might not be "conducive to the public good".
It is thought the official was referring to comments made by Mr Bin Laden that he could not prove 100% that his father - whom he says he has not seen since he was 19 - was responsible for September 11 or the London bombings.
Mrs Bin Laden said his comments on proof simply referred to the fact that he had no direct evidence of his father's involvement.
She insisted her husband had been able to visit other European countries freely.
During the most recent trip they parted briefly so she could enter Britain alone to visit a doctor.
"Refusal decisions in such cases are not normally based on evidence obtained from newspaper articles and reports," a statement drafted by the couple's lawyer, Amjad Malik, said.
"In fact they must be made on accurate facts, rules of immigration and the law of the land.
"However the reasoning given in the decision by the ECO on April 17 2008 is not just and is arbitrary.
"(It) seems that an individual's rights have been overridden by newspaper articles and his biological relation relationship to his father."
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He could get one of his dad's mates to fly him here eveilgrin:
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I'm not one to visit the sins of the father upon him and this:
(he) was told his visa application had been rejected because of newspaper suggestions he could still be loyal to his father
just annoys me.
Let him in.
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HIs "new" missus lives near me!
I say NO
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If you don't want your house broken into live next door to a burglar. A similar principle may well apply here rubschin:
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eeek:
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HIs "new" missus lives near me!
I say NO
NIMBY ::)
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I'm not one to visit the sins of the father upon him and this:
(he) was told his visa application had been rejected because of newspaper suggestions he could still be loyal to his father
just annoys me.
Let him in.
I dont think its anything to do with the newspaper coverage though, this has to play a large part given that his father took credit for the attack.
The couple said the application was finally turned down earlier this month after a six-month wait after an Entry Clearance Officer (ECO) judged that it might not be "conducive to the public good".
It is thought the official was referring to comments made by Mr Bin Laden that he could not prove 100% that his father - whom he says he has not seen since he was 19 - was responsible for September 11 or the London bombings.
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As I see it ~If his son and perhaps grandchildren are here we can keep an eye on them and he is unlikely to bomb them.
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Mr Bin Laden that he could not prove 100% that his father - whom he says he has not seen since he was 19 - was responsible for September 11 or the London bombings
I never met Osama, I cannot prove 100% he's responsible either. It's not as he he's been tried and found guilty.
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I had in my kitchen once. Seemed like a nice chap.Ate a hob nob. The he blew it all up.He's not coming here again
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I'm suprised you don't have to have background checks done on the people who enter your listed home!
Wasn't there a programme on these two recently? She was very much a freak if I recall. rubschin:
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That was on the Tatto Channel. Our TV is in a box.
Quite possibly. She is 87 and he is 21 (or something like that)
It's lurve apparently. Or he wants to live in Chester rubschin:
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TV is still in the box!?!? eeek:
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I'm suprised you don't have to have background checks done on the people who enter your listed home!
Wasn't there a programme on these two recently? She was very much a freak if I recall. rubschin:
I've been vetted!
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I'm suprised you don't have to have background checks done on the people who enter your listed home!
Nah, he just has insurance checks to make sure their life insurance has a 'close proximity to Captain Calamity' clause
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I'm suprised you don't have to have background checks done on the people who enter your listed home!
Wasn't there a programme on these two recently? She was very much a freak if I recall. rubschin:
I've been vetted!
We know you've had the snip there is no need to brag. noooo:
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I'm suprised you don't have to have background checks done on the people who enter your listed home!
Wasn't there a programme on these two recently? She was very much a freak if I recall. rubschin:
I've been vetted!
We know you've had the snip there is no need to brag. noooo:
lol:
Would that I had ~ Look at the trouble I would have avoided. ::)
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You'd have been substantially better off that is for sure! point:
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I'm suprised you don't have to have background checks done on the people who enter your listed home!
Wasn't there a programme on these two recently? She was very much a freak if I recall. rubschin:
I've been vetted!
We know you've had the snip there is no need to brag. noooo:
drumroll:
Oh Wenchy, look at you isn't it!
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You'd have been substantially better off that is for sure! point:
Too bl**dy true evil:
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How is the Turkish Delight? eyes:
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You'd have been substantially better off that is for sure! point:
Too bl**dy true evil:
As would several un-named WAAFs prolly... whistle:
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You'd have been substantially better off that is for sure! point:
Too bl**dy true evil:
As would several un-named WAAFs prolly... whistle:
Also possibly very true ~ Nah ..... they were all on t'pill in the sixties. whistle:
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Greatest invention ever according to my Father. ::)
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You'd have been substantially better off that is for sure! point:
Too bl**dy true evil:
As would several un-named WAAFs prolly... whistle:
LL's poor puppy certainly would noooo:
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Greatest invention ever according to my Father. ::)
And he was right ~ problem was that one couldn't always rely upon the lady to remember to take them. whistle:
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Greatest invention ever according to my Father. ::)
And he was right ~ problem was that one couldn't always rely upon the lady to remember to take them. whistle:
As he discovered when he had to do a quick scarpper to the States. noooo:
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Sounds ominous... rubschin:
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I don't see any problem here either, the bin laden family is massive and the US certainly didn't have any problem loading all his brothers and sisters onto private jets the week after 9/11 and I'm pretty sure they're all quite respectable apart from mr nutter obviously, still....every family has one (maybe not quite to that extent...but you get the point...)
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Hobs ~ how's it hanging? Haven't heard from you all day ~ been busy or on the beach?
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Alright, work has called in on that past two days even though I'm supposed to be off ::) Technically today i was "asked" to come in to view the the presentation of a potential new employee, but I'm not the type of person to say no....I hate that! lol:
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Well ~ don't do too much noooo: Work is the curse of the drinking classes.
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. . they were all on t'pill in the sixties.
Greatest invention ever according to my Father.
The Sixties were not an invention, you just hung around in the late 50's and bingo, there they were.
I know. I was there. whistle:
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Well ~ don't do too much noooo: Work is the curse of the drinking classes.
Tell me about, I was just about to crack open a beer yesterday when they called me in.....another half an hour later and I could have claimed that I was unfit to drive ::)
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. . they were all on t'pill in the sixties.
Greatest invention ever according to my Father.
The Sixties were not an invention, you just hung around in the late 50's and bingo, there they were.
I know. I was there. whistle:
Me too ~ but I don't remember a lot about it. (https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Fsmileys%2Fad%2Fsmoke.gif&hash=f278eef36b22c70bd7b753a4cc89f13ab8a032f9)
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. . they were all on t'pill in the sixties.
Greatest invention ever according to my Father.
The Sixties were not an invention, you just hung around in the late 50's and bingo, there they were.
I know. I was there. whistle:
You too? Me too. Well, the end of the 60's tbh. The demise of the LSD inventor had me wondering if there's still that girl in California who thinks she's an orange. rubschin:
Me too ~ but I don't remember a lot about it. (https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Fsmileys%2Fad%2Fsmoke.gif&hash=f278eef36b22c70bd7b753a4cc89f13ab8a032f9)
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. . they were all on t'pill in the sixties.
Greatest invention ever according to my Father.
The Sixties were not an invention, you just hung around in the late 50's and bingo, there they were.
I know. I was there. whistle:
Me too ~ but I don't remember a lot about it. (https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Fsmileys%2Fad%2Fsmoke.gif&hash=f278eef36b22c70bd7b753a4cc89f13ab8a032f9)
You too? Me too. Well, the end of the 60's tbh. The demise of the LSD inventor had me wondering if there's still that girl in California who thinks she's an orange. rubschin:
Was she your squeeze at the time?
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Alright, work has called in on that past two days even though I'm supposed to be off ::) Technically today i was "asked" to come in to view the the presentation of a potential new employee, but I'm not the type of person to say no....I hate that! lol:
I have to work today... sad24:
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. . they were all on t'pill in the sixties.
Greatest invention ever according to my Father.
The Sixties were not an invention, you just hung around in the late 50's and bingo, there they were.
I know. I was there. whistle:
Me too ~ but I don't remember a lot about it. (https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Fsmileys%2Fad%2Fsmoke.gif&hash=f278eef36b22c70bd7b753a4cc89f13ab8a032f9)
You too? Me too. Well, the end of the 60's tbh. The demise of the LSD inventor had me wondering if there's still that girl in California who thinks she's an orange. rubschin:
Was she your squeeze at the time?
drumroll:
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I have to work today... sad24:
SOMEONE CALL NORRIS MCWHIRTER!!! :falloffchairinamazement
whistle:
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I have to work today... sad24:
SOMEONE CALL NORRIS MCWHIRTER!!! :falloffchairinamazement
whistle:
I suspect it is a typo.
LL must be 'indisposed'.
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I have to work today... sad24:
SOMEONE CALL NORRIS MCWHIRTER!!! :falloffchairinamazement
whistle:
I suspect it is a typo.
LL must be 'indisposed'.
Nope!
Been out all day... sad24:
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Can't see the sense in it. IMHO it would be a great propaganda victory for the west to have his son seen embracing western life, and - perhaps with a little urging - to slag off his dad. The Americans have used Castro's family in a similar manner...
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He could come round to ours and have a Hob Nob!
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He could come round to ours and have a Hob Nob!
Don't you think the infidel roofers would stone him with slates? (or even slate him with stones)
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NO evil: