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Come Inside... => Saloon Bar => Topic started by: Barman on April 30, 2008, 06:49:10 AM

Title: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Barman on April 30, 2008, 06:49:10 AM
Why oh why after all these years since the telephone was invented do sales teams still use the same corny ol’ lines that immediately tell you what they are up to?  Banghead

Just had some ‘Independent Financial Advisors’ on the ‘phone, didn’t want to sell me anything, just arrange a meeting with his colleague… of course.  ::)

When we ran the business in the UK we used to get people selling corporate hospitality at major sporting events calling us up all the time. Guess what, they’d just had a client cancel at an event and could let us have it at a special price! Every single time…  noooo:

If they just had the honesty to say what they were up to I would give them more than the 500mS of my time that they get at the moment… Well, no, they probably wouldn’t.  redface:

Tossers!  cussing:
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Darwins Selection on April 30, 2008, 07:35:34 AM
Well at least you still fall for the old "I am expecting a Postal Order and will clear my slate the moment it arrives".  whistle:
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Barman on April 30, 2008, 07:46:20 AM
Well at least you still fall for the old "I am expecting a Postal Order and will clear my slate the moment it arrives".  whistle:
eeek:
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Snoopy on April 30, 2008, 07:52:04 AM
Strangely these "sales" people cannot see that they are using a variant on the old "I was doing a tarmac job up the road, for the council, and I happen to have some left over and wondered if you would like me to repair your drive" routine.
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Bar Wench on April 30, 2008, 08:26:04 AM
I'm going on a course in a few weeks to teach me how to do it.  Banghead
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Nick on April 30, 2008, 08:29:28 AM
 noooo:
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Snoopy on April 30, 2008, 08:32:14 AM
I'm going on a course in a few weeks to teach me how to do it.  Banghead

Like all courses, attend, take the money, add it to your CV and forget it once you return to the office.

Sales is easy, developing the ability to accept that you will be told to fvck off 99 times out of 100 without taking it personally is the hard part.
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Bar Wench on April 30, 2008, 08:38:52 AM
Which is why I have no desire to do so.  noooo:
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Snoopy on April 30, 2008, 08:41:29 AM
I have to admit I am always slightly offended that the black arts of selling, honed by yours truly and others over a lifetime, are considered capable of being taught in a week long course.
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Nick on April 30, 2008, 08:43:44 AM
He's going to try to flog us some bonios.I feel it in my, um, bones
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Bar Wench on April 30, 2008, 08:45:08 AM
I have to admit I am always slightly offended that the black arts of selling, honed by yours truly and others over a lifetime, are considered capable of being taught in a week long course.

A morning Snoops, a morning!  noooo:
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Snoopy on April 30, 2008, 08:47:03 AM
 cussing: Banghead Banghead Banghead
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Bar Wench on April 30, 2008, 08:47:48 AM
I know.  surrender:
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Uncle Mort on April 30, 2008, 09:02:56 AM
Surely a morning's enough to get the basic idea (lying with a straight face). Then it's all down to experience. 
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Just One More on April 30, 2008, 09:44:04 AM
I'm going on a course in a few weeks to teach me how to do it.  Banghead

Will you be able to give me a price to tarmac my drive after the course. I would like white chippings in it please
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Nick on April 30, 2008, 09:44:46 AM
She will be able to sell tat fridges to Eskimos
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Pastis on April 30, 2008, 10:06:58 AM
I have to admit I am always slightly offended that the black arts of selling, honed by yours truly and others over a lifetime, are considered capable of being taught in a week long course.

Not only the black arts of selling. I had this happen on a contract I've had for a few years  cussing:

Everything going fine and dandy, then ...  tunble:
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: grumpyoldsoldier on April 30, 2008, 07:34:20 PM
I'm going on a course in a few weeks to teach me how to do it.  Banghead
Double glazing? If so, can you do a conservatory on the back of my tent?
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Mozo on May 01, 2008, 02:18:57 AM
Selling seems to be seen here as "conning". Having spent some of my best years trying to teach the art of selling, which means to excite desire, and then to motivate a decision in a WILLING prospect, has nothing to do with trickery or slick persuasion.

It is establishing a recognisable need and HELPING a client to satisfy it.

Having spent a long time, "trying to turn mules into racehorses" I may say anyone who claims they can turn \ignoranti into competent sales persons in a short space of time is a liar and/or a con artist.


Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Snoopy on May 01, 2008, 07:26:43 AM
 happ096
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Darwins Selection on May 01, 2008, 11:37:25 AM
to excite desire, and then to motivate a decision in a WILLING prospect, has nothing to do with trickery or slick persuasion.
It is establishing a recognisable need and HELPING a client to satisfy it.
Hi Moz.

Are you sure you are talking about selling?

You used a very similar description a while back, (mid 30's?) to describe you formula for success with the fair sex.  rubschin:
Title: Re: I’m not trying to sell you anything…
Post by: Grumpmeister on May 01, 2008, 11:38:38 AM
to excite desire, and then to motivate a decision in a WILLING prospect, has nothing to do with trickery or slick persuasion.
It is establishing a recognisable need and HELPING a client to satisfy it.
Hi Moz.

Are you sure you are talking about selling?

You used a very similar description a while back, (mid 30's?) to describe you formula for success with the fair sex.  rubschin:

Did you ask what Moz was selling Darwin, he could after all be a retired gigolo..  whistle: