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Title: Failings over chip death killer
Post by: Barman on April 28, 2008, 12:14:04 PM
Quote from: BBC Web Shite
A report has blamed a "lackadaisical approach" in the criminal justice system, after a man freed from jail killed a bus passenger the same day.

Schizophrenic Anthony Joseph, 23, is serving an indefinite term at a mental health unit for the manslaughter of Richard Whelan, 28, on 29 July 2005.

Mr Whelan was stabbed on a bus in north London, when he tried to stop Joseph throwing chips at his girlfriend.

The solicitor general's report blamed a lack of diligence over bail conditions.

Click (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/7370828.stm)

And precisely how many heads will roll as the evidence of this extensive investigation become known?  Banghead
Title: Re: Failings over chip death killer
Post by: Snoopy on April 28, 2008, 12:15:23 PM
None, Zero, Nil, same as always cussing:
Title: Re: Failings over chip death killer
Post by: Barman on April 28, 2008, 12:16:40 PM
None, Zero, Nil, same as always cussing:
Worthwhile then...?  noooo:
Title: Re: Failings over chip death killer
Post by: Snoopy on April 28, 2008, 12:18:06 PM
None, Zero, Nil, same as always cussing:
Worthwhile then...?  noooo:

Oh yes ~ worth every penny of our taxes that went toward the cost of it. ::)
Title: Re: Failings over chip death killer
Post by: Barman on April 28, 2008, 12:26:33 PM
Agreed… quite frankly they should have given the (undoubtedly) vast expense of the enquiry to the victim’s family by way of compensation for their obvious total fuck up…

Why do they need an enquiry when it is so clear that it has all gone wrong???  Banghead

Rhetorical.
Title: Re: Failings over chip death killer
Post by: Uncle Mort on April 28, 2008, 12:34:28 PM
However.

The report, by Solicitor General Vera Baird, concludes there was nothing in Joseph's offending history that could have led the agencies involved to foresee the killing of Richard Whelan.


Isn't hindsight wonderful.
Title: Re: Failings over chip death killer
Post by: Snoopy on April 28, 2008, 12:35:16 PM
However.

The report, by Solicitor General Vera Baird, concludes there was nothing in Joseph's offending history that could have led the agencies involved to foresee the killing of Richard Whelan.


Isn't hindsight wonderful.

20/20 vision it would seem
Title: Re: Failings over chip death killer
Post by: Barman on April 28, 2008, 01:58:38 PM
However.

The report, by Solicitor General Vera Baird, concludes there was nothing in Joseph's offending history that could have led the agencies involved to foresee the killing of Richard Whelan.


Isn't hindsight wonderful.
Bastards!  Banghead

That one line in the report is the 'get out of jail free' card for everybody involved isn't it?

I wonder who put that in?
Title: Re: Failings over chip death killer
Post by: Uncle Mort on April 28, 2008, 02:01:59 PM
Maybe it's in because it's true.
Title: Re: Failings over chip death killer
Post by: Barman on April 28, 2008, 02:04:15 PM
The man is a serial offender… he should never have been let out…   noooo:
Title: Re: Failings over chip death killer
Post by: Uncle Mort on April 28, 2008, 02:16:04 PM
He's schizophrenic but as far as I can tell from the article he didn't have a criminal record. They should have been aware that he was wanted for an alleged burglary but they didn't and had no real reason not to grant bail.

As I wrote, it's so easy to be right after the evnt.
Title: Re: Failings over chip death killer
Post by: Barman on April 28, 2008, 02:21:16 PM
He's schizophrenic but as far as I can tell from the article he didn't have a criminal record. They should have been aware that he was wanted for an alleged burglary but they didn't and had no real reason not to grant bail.

As I wrote, it's so easy to be right after the evnt.
The man is a serial offender and a multiple bail absconder… he should never have been let out…  noooo:
Title: Re: Failings over chip death killer
Post by: Uncle Mort on April 28, 2008, 02:33:41 PM
He's schizophrenic but as far as I can tell from the article he didn't have a criminal record. They should have been aware that he was wanted for an alleged burglary but they didn't and had no real reason not to grant bail.

As I wrote, it's so easy to be right after the evnt.
The man is a serial offender and a multiple bail absconder… he should never have been let out…  noooo:

I'll have to assume you have better sources of information than I.

 surrender:
Title: Re: Failings over chip death killer
Post by: TG on April 28, 2008, 02:52:48 PM
Here is another one for you.

http://www.thisisleicestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=132935&command=displayContent&sourceNode=132702&contentPK=20467181&folderPk=77465&pNodeId=132383

Sent home the night before. Happened in a crowded street. One of the women was de-capitated by the force of the accident.

Title: Re: Failings over chip death killer
Post by: Snoopy on April 28, 2008, 02:56:28 PM
Oh Dear, Oh Dear, Oh Dear. What is this world coming to?
Title: Re: Failings over chip death killer
Post by: TG on April 28, 2008, 03:11:24 PM
Hang everybody!  cussing: