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Come Inside... => Saloon Bar => Topic started by: Berek on April 02, 2008, 10:19:24 AM
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well well well
chances of her returning home are practically zero now like
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Indeed. Once Social Services get their teeth into you you may as well emigrate ( evil:)
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That was always on the cards now wasn't it?
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Agreed. I was about to write "What a family..." but it strains the definition of the word "family"
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I want that one..
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Granny?
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As much as he annoys me, Dippy at the "other Place" wrote :-
"My heart goes out to the poor mother, not only unable to wrap her princess in the loving embrace of the family home, but that the man she trusted, with whom she shared her bed, her benefits, and her needles, may have so cruelly betrayed her.
She should unburden herself to a trusted and sympathetic listener, perhaps through a Sunday newsapaper, learn the lessons, focus on the future, and move on."
Which I found quite funny, and sadly true
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Social services may get involved.Or they may not evil:
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They (Mother and SF) both make me totally sick and I would not shed one single tear if something nasty happened to them cussing:
I do not (can not, will not) believe that 'M' did not know that scanky SF was abusing the child - normal mothers would single handedly tear the still beating heart out of anyone they seriously suspected to hurting any of their children
We can only hope now that the poor child gets the proper help she needs and that perhaps she will be lucky enough to find a good adoption home.
Can't write anymore without probably exploding !!!! Angry9:
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In the interests of balance should we not wait until we know the facts?
At the moment all we know is that the child disappeared and was found with a relative of her step father and that, in the course of their investigations the police believe that they have found evidence (presumably on a PC) that the step father likes looking at mucky pictures of people who may be young enough to be classified as children. It does not follow that he has in anyway interfered with the child. Looking at the mother I would expect him to need some stimulus to be able to get it up at all.
Yes I grant that the police have been questioning the child for a long time now and she may well have told them that the step father was molesting her but equally she may not. Evidence first, then verdict and sentence is all I am saying.
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Point taken Snoopy - and I truly hope that you are proven correct in your assumption that he is just a nasty perve who oggles kiddie porn and nothing more and she is just a average now neglectful mother.
My outcry however that I would tear anyone limb from limb if I felt enough proof was there that they had molested my child, or any child for that matter still stand I'm afraid.............
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With you all the way actually.
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What Snoopy said was well contructed, logical and paid full attention to the facts at hand.
I,however, come from the Lynch Mob school of thought, so I say just take him outside and gently shoot him in the back of the head.
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I say just take him outside and gently shoot him in the back of the head.
If he is guilty, even a little little bit - then thats still tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo good for the barsteward cussing:
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In the interests of balance should we not wait until we know the facts?
At the moment all we know is that the child disappeared and was found with a relative of her step father and that, in the course of their investigations the police believe that they have found evidence (presumably on a PC) that the step father likes looking at mucky pictures of people who may be young enough to be classified as children. It does not follow that he has in anyway interfered with the child. Looking at the mother I would expect him to need some stimulus to be able to get it up at all.
Yes I grant that the police have been questioning the child for a long time now and she may well have told them that the step father was molesting her but equally she may not. Evidence first, then verdict and sentence is all I am saying.
You are Uncle Mort... I claim my £5.
Thank you.
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What Snoopy said was well contructed, logical and paid full attention to the facts at hand.
I,however, come from the Lynch Mob school of thought, so I say just take him outside and gently shoot him in the back of the head.
Hang him! cussing:
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Just trying to keep a little order in the house BM. whistle:
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Just trying to keep a little order in the house BM. whistle:
Good boy... where is Uncle today?
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shrugs:
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Been out for the day with the sprogs, it being half term I've taken a few days off.
I see Snoopy has been deputising for me and doing a good job. As much I abhor this family and their 'values' everyone is entitled to the due process of the law and are innocent etc, etc.
However I wouldn't bet on his being innocent.
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It seems unlikely... noooo:
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Been out for the day with the sprogs, it being half term I've taken a few days off.
I see Snoopy has been deputising for me and doing a good job. As much I abhor this family and their 'values' everyone is entitled to the due process of the law and are innocent etc, etc.
However I wouldn't bet on his being innocent.
It's a tough job but somebody etc.
Yes he probably is guilty as hell .... the Social Services certainly give the appearence of thinking he is.
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Been out for the day with the sprogs, it being half term I've taken a few days off.
I see Snoopy has been deputising for me and doing a good job. As much I abhor this family and their 'values' everyone is entitled to the due process of the law and are innocent etc, etc.
However I wouldn't bet on his being innocent.
It's a tough job but somebody etc.
Yes he probably is guilty as hell .... the Social Services certainly give the appearence of thinking he is.
Stop wasting money on all this "course of justice" business, just string him up.
He's only a Northern Monkey after all, so there are plenty more of them if it was a mistake.
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Been out for the day with the sprogs, it being half term I've taken a few days off.
I see Snoopy has been deputising for me and doing a good job. As much I abhor this family and their 'values' everyone is entitled to the due process of the law and are innocent etc, etc.
However I wouldn't bet on his being innocent.
It's a tough job but somebody etc.
Yes he probably is guilty as hell .... the Social Services certainly give the appearence of thinking he is.
Stop wasting money on all this "course of justice" business, just string him up.
He's only a Northern Monkey after all, so there are plenty more of them if it was a mistake.
Agreed… cussing:
Hang him, now and if necessary ask questions later – his inevitable silence will be even more proof of his guilt… whistle:
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Don't go mixing those Tykes up with us Northern monkeys.... and yes, hang him
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Stepfather remanded over images (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/7327883.stm)
The bespectacled stepfather wore a black Manchester United shirt with the name Ronaldo on the back and spoke only to confirm his name, address and age.
He's guilty for sure. eeek:
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rubschin: Ronaldo for peados, Rooney for Granny shaggers it is then.
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Stepfather remanded over images (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/7327883.stm)
The bespectacled stepfather wore a black Manchester United shirt with the name Ronaldo on the back and spoke only to confirm his name, address and age.
He's guilty for sure. eeek:
I'm still not sure.
In the photo he is not wearing the proper metal rimmed glasses that all nonces wear. noooo:
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Stepfather remanded over images (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/7327883.stm)
The bespectacled stepfather wore a black Manchester United shirt with the name Ronaldo on the back and spoke only to confirm his name, address and age.
He's guilty for sure. eeek:
I'm still not sure.
In the photo he is not wearing the proper metal rimmed glasses that all nonces wear. noooo:
I reckon nonce-o-specs are too well known now… he nipped down to specsavers before abducting the kid… prolly… whistle:
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And now this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/7331107.stm
Beware of strangers my arse!
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And now this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bradford/7331107.stm
Beware of strangers my arse!
I Don’t know why but there is something doubly awful about the thought of women being involved in such a thing… noooo:
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OK Let us twist the scenario ~ suppose that the child was considered by her Mother, Auntie, Grannie to be at risk from the Step Father or that the Mother, perhaps knowing of the Step Father's liking for kiddie porn, thought that it was time to hoof him out and has discussed the how and why of this with her rellies .... so they hatch a plot to frighten him by spiriting her away and hiding her with an Uncle where they feel she will be safe and they can pop in and out to make sure all is well. Then they report her missing (it took them some time to do this remember) and sit back and let the hue and cry put the skids under the Step Father who they wanted to "get".
So far there has been no evidence or even suggestion that she has been harmed or molested ~ in fact those neighbours that were interviewed after having seen her being taken away by a police officer from the flat where she was "found" all said she looked happy and relaxed about the whole thing ..... hardly the way one would expect a child who had been in the hands of a peado for several weeks to be described.
There is so much in this and the more that comes out the less certain I am that it is/was a simple abduction for sexual purposes.
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I would like to add to my previous comment - take the entire family, any relatives and all friends/associates outside.
And shoot them all gently in the back of the head.
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I would like to add to my previous comment - take the entire family, any relatives and all friends/associates outside.
And shoot them all gently in the back of the head.
Force them to dig their own mass grave first too... whistle:
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And charge the cost of the bullets to whatever estate they may have.
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I would like to add to my previous comment - take the entire family, any relatives and all friends/associates outside.
And shoot them all gently in the back of the head.
Force them to dig their own mass grave first too... whistle:
Judging by the size of most of the family they weould need a fleet of JCBS noooo:
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I would like to add to my previous comment - take the entire family, any relatives and all friends/associates outside.
And shoot them all gently in the back of the head.
Force them to dig their own mass grave first too... whistle:
Judging by the size of most of the family they weould need a fleet of JCBS noooo:
noooo:
...using only their bare fingers...
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So now the mother has been arrested.
I heard on the news that she is 32!
I would have put her nearer 50 by the look of her noooo:
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So now the mother has been arrested.
I heard on the news that she is 32!
I would have put her nearer 50 by the look of her noooo:
Staggerin' isn't it? Must only be the brother/sister/whoever, there's that many of them, left to be questioned now.
I know you shouldn't judge a book by it's cover, but this one had "The encyclopedia of Hammer House of Horrors' written all over it the first time I clapped eyes on that mother and her 'flock'.....32 my arse! happy001
Isn't that the number of different fathers her kids have got? rubschin:
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I just tried to post a pic of the mother. It crashed my computer! eeek:
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Here you go:
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32... eeek:
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Here you go:
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32... eeek:
Corrrrr! cloud9:
Appointment at specsavers @11....meow!
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Blimey big G ~ I know you're after a dog but there are limits mate.
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I agree with Snoopy. Repellent as the Matthews are, they are entitled to due process of the law and not to be tried in absentia by the gutter press. That said, it's a riveting soap opera and I can't wait to read the next "revelation".
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The full story will be very interesting, although I'm losing track of who's who.
A family tree would useful. eeek:
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I was having the same problem. rubschin:
Bit like this perhaps?
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I would like to add to my previous comments. Take the entire population of Dewsbury outside and shoot them all gently in the back of the head.
And then Napalm it.
Please.
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The BBC website headline is
Mother arrested by Shannon police
So now the Irish are getting involved! rubschin:
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Doncha just lurve the BBC?
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Hang them! cussing:
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Hang them! cussing:
Wot ~ the BBC?
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Hang them! cussing:
Wot ~ the BBC?
Um, nooooooooooo... noooo:
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I would like to add to my previous comments. Take the entire population of Dewsbury outside and shoot them all gently in the back of the head.
And then Napalm it.
Please.
I have to say that is the quickest, easiest and cheapest solution.
It gets my vote
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DS has always been an extremely perceptive chap. It is good to know they are still around.
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Where is Dewsbury anyway?Is it nice?
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Where is Dewsbury anyway?Is it nice?
Not far from t'centre of Leeds
They have a website ... it looks nice enough place, if tha like t'Yorkshire
http://www.batleyanddewsbury.co.uk/
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It does look a nice place. So how comes it can spawn such unpleasant inhabitants?
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It's virtually in Leeds ~ would be a good place to start your research into that question.
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Not that I am one to say "Told you so" but..............
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article3701834.ece
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And it gets better ~ but is this speculation or do we now have the motive?
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2008/04/08/cops-probe-madeleine-mccann-cash-link-to-shannon-matthews-case-86908-20376430/
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And it gets better ~ but is this speculation or do we now have the motive?
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/2008/04/08/cops-probe-madeleine-mccann-cash-link-to-shannon-matthews-case-86908-20376430/
Interesting.
I did remark to Mrs DS (#3) a few months ago when the Maddie thing was flavour-of-the-week, that it wouldn't be long before some opportunist scrounger set out to bump off their own kiddy and start a cash fund.
I didn't know about the "Shameless" programme of course, as it isn't on the BBC.
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Not that I am one to say "Told you so" but..............
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article3701834.ece
Come on Snoopy, on page 3 you were lecturing the forum about "due process of law", now you're telling us that "you told us so" based on the latest rumour from "A Source".
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Not that I am one to say "Told you so" but..............
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/crime/article3701834.ece
Come on Snoopy, on page 3 you were lecturing the forum about "due process of law", now you're telling us that "you told us so" based on the latest rumour from "A Source".
I said, on page 3 OK Let us twist the scenario ~ suppose that the child was considered by her Mother, Auntie, Grannie to be at risk from the Step Father or that the Mother, perhaps knowing of the Step Father's liking for kiddie porn, thought that it was time to hoof him out and has discussed the how and why of this with her rellies .... so they hatch a plot to frighten him by spiriting her away and hiding her with an Uncle where they feel she will be safe and they can pop in and out to make sure all is well. Then they report her missing (it took them some time to do this remember) and sit back and let the hue and cry put the skids under the Step Father who they wanted to "get".
So far there has been no evidence or even suggestion that she has been harmed or molested ~ in fact those neighbours that were interviewed after having seen her being taken away by a police officer from the flat where she was "found" all said she looked happy and relaxed about the whole thing ..... hardly the way one would expect a child who had been in the hands of a peado for several weeks to be described.
There is so much in this and the more that comes out the less certain I am that it is/was a simple abduction for sexual purposes.
Which says that there was a motive for the immediate family to be involved which would explain the inconsistancies that the "peado" motive did not. It seems that the plod think so too.
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Sorry I mean page 1, I couldn't be arsed to rake through the thread to find the page number, and assumed you wouldn't retort with pedantry. bom
In the interests of balance should we not wait until we know the facts?
The facts according to "A source" and Times online. lol:
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Pedantry is my middle name evil:
The Police have now asked for a further 24 hours in which to question Shannon's mother and there is a story circulating that suggests members of her family had been approaching the McCanns for "financial assistance" to help find the little girl since they are loaded like and nobody had put up tons of money to help poor Shannon's Mum. whistle:
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If the motive for the kidnap was some perverse inter-family kiddie fiddling scheme they should all be hanged immediately.
If the motive was financial as appears to be the case that would be quite a different matter… The sick bastards should all be hanged immediately.
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lol: lol: lol:
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If the pikeys do burn my desk down tonight can we hang them as well please?
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Of course happy100
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Of course happy100
Good man. happy088
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If the pikeys do burn my desk down tonight can we hang them as well please?
Yes... we'll do a job-lot... ;)
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Prolly cheaper by the dozen anyway .... or does it have to be in tens these days?
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Prolly cheaper by the dozen anyway .... or does it have to be in tens these days?
Metric pikeys? rubschin:
Fvck it. hang em anyway. ;)
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We’ll offer a discount for ten… politicians go free… whistle:
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We’ll offer a discount for ten… politicians go free… whistle:
Pikey politicians? eeek:
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We’ll offer a discount for ten… politicians go free… whistle:
Pikey politicians? eeek:
Um... yes TG....
whacky115
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mother facing 2 charges, CPS have just announced it like
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mother facing 2 charges, CPS have just announced it like
Karen Matthews, 32, will appear before magistrates in Dewsbury charged with perverting the course of justice and child neglect.
Looks like all our assumptions are coming home to roost...or summat like that. confused:
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Indeed.
Looks like a scam to get money out of the McCanns or anybody else.
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Hanging really would be too good for them... noooo:
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Gentle shooting?
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Gentle shooting?
Too gentle... noooo:
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Let them fight it out and charge admission then?
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Let them fight it out and charge admission then?
I was thinking more along the lines of removing their skin and rolling them in salt… until dead… I suppose you could charge admission. rubschin:
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Now she has been charged with child neglect I trust the McCanns will face a similar thing like
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Of course they will
happy001 happy001 happy001 happy001
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The perverting the course of justice charge alleges she "repeatedly concealed information in relation to the whereabouts of Shannon Matthews in interviews and other contacts with officers with the West Yorkshire Police and claimed to have no knowledge of her whereabouts."
Banged up now, and rightly so too. cussing:
Without wishing to condem her before the trial, it really does appear to have been a money making scam this
Second thoughts, NO!
She's guilty, bloody heathen.
Throw away the key. happy088
Bloody good actress though. Remember those initial interviews outside her house, floods of tears and wailing at the camera, then so so upset she had to turn away...theatrical drug laden munter. cussing:
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She has now ousted pegleg as the most despised person in the UK i'm sure.
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She has now ousted pegleg as the most despised person in the UK i'm sure.
Indeed... they had to board the house up... noooo:
No doubt the whole odious family will be given new identities and a new home when they are released ion a few months. Mind you, that ‘husband’ will need extensive plastic surgery… Banghead
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She has now ousted pegleg as the most despised person in the UK i'm sure.
Indeed... they had to board the house up... noooo:
No doubt the whole odious family will be given new identities and a new home when they are released ion a few months. Mind you, that ‘husband’ will need extensive plastic surgery… Banghead
I'm sure that they'll both come out of prison/remand with their faces rearranged free of charge
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She has now ousted pegleg as the most despised person in the UK i'm sure.
Indeed... they had to board the house up... noooo:
No doubt the whole odious family will be given new identities and a new home when they are released ion a few months. Mind you, that ‘husband’ will need extensive plastic surgery… Banghead
I'm sure that they'll both come out of prison/remand with their faces rearranged free of charge
If only that were the case we’d all feel more comfortable about it… However, I suspect they will be separated from the rest of the prison population for their own safety while inside… noooo:
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Three women are being questioned over the disappearance of Shannon Matthews.
West Yorkshire Police are speaking to Amanda Hyett, 25, her sister Caroline Meehan and her mother Alice Meehan, 49.
The women have been arrested on suspicion of perverting the course of justice by police investigating the disappearance of Shannon Matthews, the force confirmed.
Sorry. I'm fast losing the plot here. Who are these people, and haven't they already been arrested? rubschin:
I'm totally baffled in this complete spiders web now. confused:
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They all look so brain-dead…
If it really was an attempt to screw funds out of the ‘find maddie’ fund I’d have to suggest that it was in fact Shannon that masterminded the whole thing… noooo:
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eeek:
Cheers for that Unc. noooo:
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eeek: Indeed
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Such a tender moment needed to be shared. sick2:
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Such a tender moment needed to be shared. sick2:
They could've just slipped the noose round both their necks... what a wasted opportunity... noooo:
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Not as complicated as I expected ::)
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Not as complicated as I expected ::)
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They seem quite a normal, caring nuclear family enjoying normal life in 21st century England.
Thinks, 'nuclear' gives me an idea. . . rubschin: