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Come Inside... => The Restaurant => Topic started by: Bar Wench on March 11, 2008, 11:19:53 AM
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I'm sorry but tinned mince is never a good thing. sick2:
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Of course. Of course happy100
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whacky115
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Did none of you watch Delia Smith's programme on BBC 2 last night?
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No. I have put our telly in a box for a month cry:
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Did none of you watch Delia Smith's programme on BBC 2 last night?
Yep. The frozen mash concept in particular was somewhat though provoking. ::)
And it's always great to see the footage of her making an arse of herself a the footy.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/norwich/4307661.stm
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I always thought she had sexy hands. But then I am a bit odd rubschin:
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Packed the TV away for a month?
"Cutting off your nose to spite your face" my mother would have called that.
But no I didn't watch Delia. She is obviously trying hard to win back her place as the "Peoples Cook" because all the real chefs have, as she sees it, ganged up on her. Poor deluded, drunken, woman cannot see that the world has moved on and these guys (& Nigella) are better at making money out of cooking than she is. Frankly I'd rather watch Tamasin Day Lewis (Yes Daniel's sister) than Delia any day and TBH Tamasin is a raddled old tart too.
And yes Nick .... we know and accept that you are a "bit odd" that's why we like you.
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No. I have put our telly in a box for a month cry:
Why?
I could get on board with the frozen mash and preprepared vegetables. But tinned mince! sick2:
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No. I have put our telly in a box for a month cry:
Why?
The Boy has had TV privileges withdrawn. Which is why we found him quietly watching a DVD on MY computer at 3 this morning! evil:
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You won't beat him you know.
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He is getting more and more cunning, but today he has big bags under his eyes. The little bastardo!
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No. I have put our telly in a box for a month cry:
How many pieces is it in? whistle:
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One. Why do you ask?
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One. Why do you ask?
Just wondering if this was voluntary or being packed off for repairs due to nick-o-rays. point:
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No. I have put our telly in a box for a month cry:
Why?
The Boy has had TV privileges withdrawn. Which is why we found him quietly watching a DVD on MY computer at 3 this morning! evil:
He is a cunning child isn't he. eveilgrin:
Has he discovered the iplayer/4OD yet?
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No. I have put our telly in a box for a month cry:
Why?
The Boy has had TV privileges withdrawn. Which is why we found him quietly watching a DVD on MY computer at 3 this morning! evil:
He is a cunning child isn't he. eveilgrin:
Has he discovered the iplayer/4OD yet?
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I hate to tell you this Nick but as computer savvy as the boy is he probably already knows about them. Whats your download limit? point:
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Dear The Boy,
Can I point out to you that bbc have an iplayer on which you can watch television programmes whenever you want. Also, channel 4 do something similar.
In future though it might be wiser to wear headphones when watching at 3am.
Lots of love
Wenchy
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I am putting him in the post to you GHP evil:
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I am putting him in the post to you GHP evil:
What has he done to be banned from tv?
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Insolence, adolescent behaviour, disobedience and calling Mrs Nick " a f*cking sh*tting idiot". He had been warned!
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Seems fair based on the language to Mrs Nick alone!
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Yup. His computer is also off limits, as is my laptop which we found plugged in and active under his duvet the other night! evil:
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Yes but for which bit did he get banned from the telly?
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All of them cumulatively!
OK? evil:
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Insolence, adolescent behaviour, disobedience and calling Mrs Nick " a f*cking sh*tting idiot". He had been warned!
Doesnt doing something that stupid normally indicate a death wish?
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He comes close on occasions. Parents are born to suffer! evil:
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They nearly all grow out of it.
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And the ones who don't?
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They go to prison for murdering their kids.
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They go to prison for murdering their kids.
What he said.
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I was thinking of the kids. But one can sometimes see how parents lose it (serious point)
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Always count to ten Nick. I always did when my two were little.
Back to Delia, not that I saw the programme but what is so wrong with tinned mince?
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Ask Wenchy.
And I just don't count to 10. I leave the house!!
OK?
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Always count to ten Nick. I always did when my two were little.
Back to Delia, not that I saw the programme but what is so wrong with tinned mince?
It just seems so wrong to me. In an age when we are trying to educate people on the benefits of fresh healthy ingredients and how cooking needn't be arduous that a person who is widely respected in that area is advocating the use of meat in a can.
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I was thinking of the kids. But one can sometimes see how parents lose it (serious point)
Mine was also serious ~well a little bit ~ trying to keep things light really.
Yes I have often thought and said that I can well understand how a child can provoke a parent into beating it senseless or worse. I do not mean that I condone such actions but I can undrstand how those with, how shall I put this, less self control than most of us have can go too far without actually meaning harm. In court they always look so bewildered that it could have happened to them. There are of course exceptions for whom I have no sympathy.
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Always count to ten Nick. I always did when my two were little.
Back to Delia, not that I saw the programme but what is so wrong with tinned mince?
It just seems so wrong to me. In an age when we are trying to educate people on the benefits of fresh healthy ingredients and how cooking needn't be arduous that a person who is widely respected in that area is advocating the use of meat in a can.
Like corned beef... cloud9:
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Always count to ten Nick. I always did when my two were little.
Back to Delia, not that I saw the programme but what is so wrong with tinned mince?
It just seems so wrong to me. In an age when we are trying to educate people on the benefits of fresh healthy ingredients and how cooking needn't be arduous that a person who is widely respected in that area is advocating the use of meat in a can.
Agreed ..... look at the additives etc that the tin also contains. Delia is guilty of trying too hard to be different.
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I was thinking of the kids. But one can sometimes see how parents lose it (serious point)
Mine was also serious ~well a little bit ~ trying to keep things light really.
Yes I have often thought and said that I can well understand how a child can provoke a parent into beating it senseless or worse. I do not mean that I condone such actions but I can undrstand how those with, how shall I put this, less self control than most of us have can go too far without actually meaning harm. In court they always look so bewildered that it could have happened to them. There are of course exceptions for whom I have no sympathy.
I agree. Effing hard work. Kids are difficult. I am sure I wasn't, but maybe I was. I was a bastard between 14 and 18. I know that.
Hormones? Perhaps they start younger these days. I am glad the telly has gone. He learns shit from the Simpsonsw
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The trouble with raising kids is that there is no book of instructions. I have 5 (ish) ... the eldest will be 40 on 1st April (how appropriate is that!!!) and I am still trying to get it right. The only training is "on the job" and everyone of the little sods is different.
That is why I disagree with Tony Bliar & co about "Parenting" classes as a sentence to be handed down to me if my kid ends up before the beak. We all know that such things will be run by "Sincere" wimmin in indian print skirts, sandals, with unshaven legs and armpits and no stockings. Their toe nails will be over long and painted a garish colour and they will have body piercings.
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Oh, you have met her then evil:
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I attended Parenting class arranged by the children's seconday school when they started there last year. The two running it were not as described by Snoopy.
The intake for year 7 was 149 pupils which gave a possible attendance approaching 300. The biggest turnout was 12, three being me, my ex and her husband. He and I were the only men.
I think that those who need parenting classes are the ones least likely to attend.
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One agrees! evil:
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Oh, you have met her then evil:
Sister in Law conforms to the description and she is in "Social Work"
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We have one who comes here who is quite nice cloud9:
The rest are munters evil:
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I attended Parenting class arranged by the children's secondary school when they started there last year. The two running it were not as described by Snoopy.
The intake for year 7 was 149 pupils which gave a possible attendance approaching 300. The biggest turnout was 12, three being me, my ex and her husband. He and I were the only men.
I think that those who need parenting classes are the ones least likely to attend.
A lot of the problem is the lack of a support network nowadays. Once upon a time we had things called families.
My Dad never lived more than 1 mile from his parents and five brothers and sisters (except during his Army service). All those uncles and aunties came with spouses and kids of their own so the family network was pretty large. Mum's family were the same.
Now we have all scattered to the four winds and Mrs S and I are "on our own" when it comes to such things. The general breakdown of that old fashioned society, which included the local bobby who would give you a clip round the ear, is one of the major causes of the countries yoof problem today. In a hopeless attempt to resolve the problem various governments have empowered all sorts of people with "Appropriate" qualifications to interfere, intercede and otherwise f*ck it all up. They have taken away basic discipline from school teachers, who to be honest were in the main so left wing at one point that they gladly gave up their rights to respect from the children .... as in "I'm you maths teacher this term ~ Call me Dave". They have told parents that they have no rights but they have the responsibility whilst telling the children they have the rights but no responsibilities.
My hope is that the pendulum must one day swing back the other way. I probably won't see it but if we are to survive as a breed then it must happen.
Tho' what this has to do with tinned mince or Delia Smith is beyond me ... but what do I know? .... I'm just a Beagle.
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Wise words, hound. I could quite easily kill my 12 year old daughter some days. Bring back corporal punishment in schools and bobbies on the beat with a free rein to clip the little buggers round the ear.
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Wise words, hound. I could quite easily kill my 12 year old daughter some days. Bring back corporal punishment in schools and bobbies on the beat with a free rein to clip the little buggers round the ear.
But it shouldn't be necessary. It is a poor teacher that finds it necessary to resort to violence in an attempt to keep order.
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Normally I'd agree but look at some of the feral youths wandering the streets these days. Something tells me that sending them to the naughty corner wouldnt have much effect on them.
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Wise words, hound. I could quite easily kill my 12 year old daughter some days. Bring back corporal punishment in schools and bobbies on the beat with a free rein to clip the little buggers round the ear.
But it shouldn't be necessary. It is a poor teacher that finds it necessary to resort to violence in an attempt to keep order.
Are you reading from what Mr Wench had to write 100 times?
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Seriously though. It shouldn't be. If parents are doing their doing job and in the main instilling a sense of respect for elders and authority then it shouldn't be necessary to beat/hit kids to get them to behave. I know I was always more scared of a letter home and punishment by my Dad than any slippering that was threatened.
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Those days have gone unfortunately Wenchy. Kids are almost now empowered to have no respect for anything.
Chop their goolies off - it's the only way.
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Without an "Ultimate deterrent" you have no hope of keeping discipline.
Example. Science teacher at THW's High School (which must I suppose remain nameless) has never yet got past twenty of the allotted 50 minute lesson. There is so much noise, mucking about and p*ss taking that he walks out of the room and leaves them to it. Daughter and her friend often follow him out of the room and go to the school library. One day, recently, they followed him to another classroom where they found him alone, in tears. They comforted him and offered to go to the head as witnesses for him but he declined the offer as he felt it would end his career.
This is the best school in the area. She tells us that most classes are like this. The oafs who are to blame want, repeat want, to be suspended. If they are suspended they don't have to come to school and they know that the law will not come after their parents whereas if they simply bunk off then eventually the cops turn up to speak to Mum and her partner.
Sorry to disagree Wenchy and I know I am old fashioned but Secondary Education is a bleeding nightmare nowadays and without some other punishment than being sent to the "Quiet Room" or being suspended for varying periods it will not stop. It is, quite frankly, anarchy in these places.
Of the other three High Schools open to us as options in this area one is Welsh Medium which rules it out as the children are not fluent enough to survive there and would anyway be beaten up by the other pupils because they are English and both of the others have a permanent police presence of two PCSO's each throughout the school day.
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I am sort of thinking that one has to give up on the current generation of school attendees and start again with the next. I feel this lot are beyond hope. However, if parents of kids being born today actually parent then it shouldn't be necessary for school to become nothing more than ring masters.
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I was caned at Grammar school on two occasions. I fully deserved it both times.
Simple - if you fvck up, expect to be punished and being suspended is not a punishment to most - it's an easy way out.
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Yep! But how do we do it. Parenting skills also have to operate under the same rules. Teachers at the aforementioned High School actively seek children to come forward to say their parents smack them and then call in the Social Workers. There has to come a point where taking away pocket money, TV sets, Computer priviledges, sweets etc no longer works.
The THW is 5'10" and weighs about 10 stone. She is solid. So I say "You naughty girl ~ how dare you speak to your mother like that, GO TO YOUR ROOM" and she says "NO!"
What do I do next?
I could do like Nick and pack the TV into a box so as to deprive her of it for a period as a punishment BUT that also punishes the two boys and Mrs S. (Not me ~ I wouldn't miss the bloody thing).
I could take away her mobile 'phone but she will miss the school bus the next day and not be able to call us to give her a lift leading to worry and upset about her whereabouts ... and you know she'll do that deliberately
I could take away her Computer rights but she'll use the PCs at school.
I suppose I could go into her bedroom and tear up all her clothes apart from her school uniform but I paid for them.
I could explain about responsibility, respect for others and appeal to her better nature but she laughs in my face at that one.
No ~ the best, quickest and most effective answer is to smack her. I do not beat her, I do not take a belt to her arse (tho' I am sometimes tempted) I simply smack her insolent, sneering face. It makes me feel better and she then goes to her room because she doesn't want another smack. The following morning she is sweetness itself.
If you have a better answer please tell me 'cos like I say I've been trying to find one for forty years come April 1st and haven't found it yet.
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I suppose I could go into her bedroom and tear up all her clothes apart from her school uniform but I paid for them.
Pack them in a locked trunk instead. No sense in wasting money and afterwards she can have them back again.
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That's exactly what I do, Snoops. Also, taking her mobile phone, iPod and selected clothes off her, then burning them in the back garden while she watched worked for a bit. But it never lasts. The boundaries we set are regularly breached and one day, my normal calm self will explode into a scene in which there will be no winners.
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I honestly don't know. It's a difficult one and the more I hear about kids the more I am convinced that my parents had a bloody easy ride.
I was smacked twice, across the arse with my Dad's slipper. The memory of that and the horror of him shouting at me was more than enough to make me behave. I suppose I was just a goody goody really. The idea of disapointing my parents was truly enough to make me behave.
Also grounding, no pocket money, no phone. Pick up and drop off from school each day to ensure that I did none of the above. I think I had my bedroom door taken away at one point too.
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Not quite sure how you will react to this one (THW will hate it however). Work out how much you normally spend on her at christmas then set up a system so that each time she acts up you take some of the cash off that amount explaing the whole thing before hand and showing her each time you take money off the amount.
No money is wasted, she doesnt have a way around the restriction and nobody else has to suffer from her bad behaviour.
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Trouble is that even at that age memeory is short (Even shorter at my age) and if a punishment is elongated it ceases to have meaning. Beside the way she behaves at times she'd end up owing me. lol:
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Thats why you make a production out of the whole thing. Set up a spreadsheet on the computer or a chart in the kitchen. Somewhere she would keep seeing it. If you want to add a real master touch tell her the cash that she is losing is going to the boys.
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Christ .... she hates them enough now. eeek: eeek:
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eveilgrin:
That would have worked on me.
My Dad used to operate something similar. Three jars. One mine, one my Brothers, one my parents and say 10 pound coins in each. If you misbehaved a coin went from one jar to the other. At the end of the week you collected whatever was left. A joing misbehaving resulted in coins from each of us going into the joint pot.
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ok forget the master touch but if you end up giving her something at the end of each month telling her how much she has lost (or gained back through good behaviour).
Ultimately its promoting pavlovian behaviour (and no, before Darwin makes a comment I dont mean acting like a dessert) point:
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Honest I am not making excuses but money doesn't work with any of mine. They know we are "short" of it and therefore they expect little. None actually get pocket money as they know I pay for all out of school activities. Music lessons, Fencing lessons, Badminton club etc etc. THW has just been to France with the school so there is little I can withhold that I haven't already either withheld or threatened to take away.
Anywhoooo ... I have to take THW to the Doctors shortly and we are miles away from Delia so I must go.
rubschin: Speaking of Delia ..... I s'pose I could make the brats eat Tinned Mince as a punishment. lol:
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ok forget the master touch but if you end up giving her something at the end of each month telling her how much she has lost (or gained back through good behaviour).
Ultimately its promoting pavlovian behaviour (and no, before Darwin makes a comment I dont mean acting like a dessert) point:
You mean dancing about like a Prima Ballerina then?
I had my bedroom door taken away at one point too.
happy001 happy001 happy001
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Honest I am not making excuses but money doesn't work with any of mine. They know we are "short" of it and therefore they expect little. None actually get pocket money as they know I pay for all out of school activities. Music lessons, Fencing lessons, Badminton club etc etc. THW has just been to France with the school so there is little I can withhold that I haven't already either withheld or threatened to take away.
Anywhoooo ... I have to take THW to the Doctors shortly and we are miles away from Delia so I must go.
rubschin: Speaking of Delia ..... I s'pose I could make the brats eat Tinned Mince as a punishment. lol:
Or corned beef and tomato sandwiches? whistle:
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I had my bedroom door taken away at one point too.
happy001 happy001 happy001
As a teenager I think that was probably the worst ever punishment. sad24:
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Funny you should say that, that will be my next punishment...
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The lack of privacy. It was horrid.
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You weren't "doing things" you shouldn't have been, were you?! Gussett typing is not really a spectator sport...
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You weren't "doing things" you shouldn't have been, were you?! Gussett typing is not really a spectator sport...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I think that I had been caught smoking. I couldn't be trusted with privacy in or out of the house. So, I was grounded and had my door taken away. After seeing how well it worked it got used for other stuff too as a general punishment.
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You weren't "doing things" you shouldn't have been, were you?! Gussett typing is not really a spectator sport...
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
I think that I had been caught smoking. I couldn't be trusted with privacy in or out of the house. So, I was grounded and had my door taken away. After seeing how well it worked it got used for other stuff too as a general punishment.
Of course...
You forgot this emoticon tho... char048
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But of course :-)
We believe you. We do. Honest...
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Gussett Typing happy001 happy001 happy001
I've heard it called some things in my time but that is a classic.
Oh my aching sides (https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Fsmileys%2Flaughing013.gif&hash=2aecd0af5775252e25c43922f0bf0fa84f0266f0)
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Have you honestly never heard that before? Must be a Surrey thing...
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Have you honestly never heard that before? Must be a Surrey thing...
No that really was a first for me. (https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.freesmileys.org%2Fsmileys%2Flaughing021.gif&hash=c63efd8b70fe4afef31d85d1dd464b4f497147e0)
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Well I'm glad I amused someone today as work is not happy with me and neither is the better half...happens...
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Well I'm glad I amused someone today as work is not happy with me and neither is the better half...happens...
You my as well carry on then - any more flange jokes? whistle:
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Yes.
Put into comedy room, should you see fit.
Boy marries girl. Boy has spent his youth being berated by the mother, who says "all young girls are evil and they have teeth downstairs". On the wedding night, the new missus says "we must bless our union by the physical act"
Boy says 'no you have teeth down there'
Her 'I do not. You must'
He (after heading South) - 'I'm not surprised, have you seen the state of your gums!'
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Something tells me I already know the answer for this Wenchy but have you tried Delia's mashed potato chocolate cake recipie yet? rubschin:
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Sounds fattening!
oh, too late.
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Something tells me I already know the answer for this Wenchy but have you tried Delia's mashed potato chocolate cake recipie yet? rubschin:
That just sounds so wrong
That said, I have a great recipe for Guinness and chocolate cake, the darkest, moistest(sp?) flavoursome chocolate cake you are likely to try
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Or save time and have a pint of guinness and milky bar?
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I caught the end of a Delia programme on something I’d recorded last night…
I was amazed at how rough she looked – have we done that already? whistle:
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It's cos she's taken to football hooliganism, I hear.
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It's cos she's taken to football hooliganism, I hear.
Prolly... rubschin:
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I thought it was the tinned mince ~ full of additives I'm told.
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I caught the end of a Delia programme on something I’d recorded last night…
I was amazed at how rough she looked – have we done that already? whistle:
Raddled is the word you are looking for ..... Raddled!
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The word of the day!
Yesterday it was ardent.
Snoopy's lady related vocabulary is rather interesting (from a psychoanalytical point of view) eveilgrin:
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rubschin: Wot do you mean?
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rubschin: Wot do you mean?
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That said, I have a great recipe for Guinness and chocolate cake, the darkest, moistest(sp?) flavoursome chocolate cake you are likely to try
Getting (vuagely) back on topic can you post that recipe. Anything which gives a chance of having Guiness in the office is always worth a punt.
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That said, I have a great recipe for Guinness and chocolate cake, the darkest, moistest(sp?) flavoursome chocolate cake you are likely to try
Getting (vuagely) back on topic can you post that recipe. Anything which gives a chance of having Guiness in the office is always worth a punt.
8oz butter
12 oz soft brown sugar
4 eggs, beaten
4 oz cocoa powder
400ml Guinness
8 oz plain flour
1 tsp baking powder
2 tsp bicarbonate of soda
Blend the butter with the sugar until smooth. Add the eggs.
Mix the cocoa powder with the Guinness, then add this to the mixture
Mix the flour, baking powder and bicarbonate of soda together then sift into the mixture and mix everything well
Pour the mixture into a well greased 10" tin and cook at 180c for 60 to 75 minutes (if the top looks as though it's catching, cover with foil for the last part)
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That said, I have a great recipe for Guinness and chocolate cake, the darkest, moistest(sp?) flavoursome chocolate cake you are likely to try
Getting (vuagely) back on topic can you post that recipe. Anything which gives a chance of having Guiness in the office is always worth a punt.
8oz butter
12 oz soft brown sugar
4 eggs, beaten
4 oz cocoa powder
400ml Guinness
8 oz plain flour
1 tsp baking powder
2 tsp bicarbonate of soda
Blend the butter with the sugar until smooth. Add the eggs.
Mix the cocoa powder with the Guinness, then add this to the mixture
Mix the flour, baking powder and bicarbonate of soda together then sift into the mixture and mix everything well
Pour the mixture into a well greased 10" tin and cook at 180c for 60 to 75 minutes (if the top looks as though it's catching, cover with foil for the last part)
The rest of my arteries are clogging just reading that eeek:
Mind ~ perhaps I could just manage a little piece whistle:
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AS the actress said to the bishop