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Title: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Nick on January 28, 2008, 09:23:31 AM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7209276.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/7209276.stm)

I heard this on the news late last night and woke up assuming I had dreamt it. But I hadn't rubschin:

What say the regulars?
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Barman on January 28, 2008, 09:31:59 AM
I heard this unbelievable shite on the radio this morning…

More bullshit and re-announcing of stuff to cover up more lies and sleaze.  noooo:
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Nick on January 28, 2008, 09:32:32 AM
It is also an annoucement of an announcement Banghead cussing:
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Barman on January 28, 2008, 09:38:16 AM
It’ll look great on your CV… PhD (Burgers)  noooo:
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Barman on January 28, 2008, 09:39:51 AM
Thinking about it… claiming to have been educated in ‘The University of Life’ would probably be more prestigious…  noooo:
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Nick on January 28, 2008, 09:44:38 AM
This stuff has an impact on my "work". I am presently in communication with the great and the good in the world of educashun about this and may impart some of their pearls of wisdom as they come to me.
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Uncle Mort on January 28, 2008, 09:46:04 AM
I don't have a problem with vocational courses that are geared towards a particular job or career path. These seem to be an easy(?) way of gaining an academic qualification through the building up of 'units' gained via a glorified work experience route.

I doubt if universities will consider them sufficient for admission.   
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Nick on January 28, 2008, 09:47:06 AM
There are some links to the new "Diplomas" also being discounted by universities but being pushed heavily by the Govt.
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Barman on January 28, 2008, 10:17:24 AM
I don't have a problem with vocational courses that are geared towards a particular job or career path. These seem to be an easy(?) way of gaining an academic qualification through the building up of 'units' gained via a glorified work experience route.

I doubt if universities will consider them sufficient for admission.   
Unless you were applying for a job in the canteen of course…  whistle:
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Grumpmeister on January 28, 2008, 10:26:23 AM
You can just imagine the McAlevels exam questions

You serve a customer who orders a Big Mac Whopper McDog burger and pays £5. Do you:

a) Give £1.50 change
b) Give £1.75 change
c) Ask if he want fries with that.

 Banghead
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Barman on January 28, 2008, 10:30:49 AM
Didn’t they (this pathetic ‘government’) announce the other day that cookery lessons would be compulsory in schools?

Do you think there is a link here, abolish all higher-education establishments and anybody that can’t get shoe-horned into a job by daddy when they are 16 are straight off to McShite to continue their edukashun – already pre-trained on how to flip a burger?

 rubschin:
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Grumpmeister on January 28, 2008, 10:39:40 AM
Maybe but I can see another problem here. The announcement about teaching cooking in schools is supposed to be part of the Government's so called strategy to combat obesity. So giving kids A levels in flipping burgers kind of torpedoes that doesnt it?
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Barman on January 28, 2008, 10:41:45 AM
Maybe but I can see another problem here. The announcement about teaching cooking in schools is supposed to be part of the Government's so called strategy to combat obesity. So giving kids A levels in flipping burgers kind of torpedoes that doesnt it?
Except they’ll be slaving away for a pittance at the new McUniversity so they won’t be able to afford (or face prolly) the burgers…  whistle:
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Grumpmeister on January 28, 2008, 10:51:12 AM
The get a 'meal' allowance per shift though  sick2:
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Uncle Mort on January 28, 2008, 11:51:05 AM
There are some links to the new "Diplomas" also being discounted by universities but being pushed heavily by the Govt.

Indeed:

Quote
Fewer than four in 10 university admissions officers see the vocational Diploma as a "good alternative" to A-levels, a survey suggests

I noticed this from the same article:

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The first courses will be in construction, engineering, health, IT and media.

No mention of the fast-food indusry.

 rubschin:
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Nick on January 28, 2008, 11:54:58 AM
That nice Mr Balls declared those new Diplomas "a great success". They don't start till this coming September noooo:
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Grumpmeister on January 28, 2008, 12:12:46 PM
I suspect that these diplomas are going to be mainly for people on benefits, dont get a job on go on one of these half assed training courses and you lose our payments.

Its an ill conceived plan which has only been brought out to reduce spending and not to improve academic and vocational training.
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Nick on January 28, 2008, 12:15:39 PM
It also has a connection with the "raising of the school leaving age" to 18
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: barmisspah? on February 08, 2008, 12:07:41 PM
I don't have a problem with vocational courses that are geared towards a particular job or career path. These seem to be an easy(?) way of gaining an academic qualification through the building up of 'units' gained via a glorified work experience route.

I doubt if universities will consider them sufficient for admission.   

rather like the stars on their badges ?
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Uncle Mort on February 08, 2008, 12:22:57 PM
Sorry? what stars? what badges?
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on February 08, 2008, 12:51:01 PM
Sorry? what stars? what badges?


It's quite plain that Unc has never visited the Golden Arches then!

Mickey D's employees get stars on their badges. I don't think they're for customer service, more a sort of long service thing (since McD have little idea of what constitutes customer service).
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: barmisspah? on February 08, 2008, 12:56:38 PM
Sorry? what stars? what badges?


It's quite plain that Unc has never visited the Golden Arches then!

Mickey D's employees get stars on their badges. I don't think they're for customer service, more a sort of long service thing (since McD have little idea of what constitutes customer service).

quite
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Uncle Mort on February 08, 2008, 01:01:54 PM
Ah I see, a prolefood outlet.
Title: Re: Another nail in the coffin of educashun?
Post by: Just One More on February 08, 2008, 09:20:46 PM
Sorry? what stars? what badges?


It's quite plain that Unc has never visited the Golden Arches then!

Mickey D's employees get stars on their badges. I don't think they're for customer service, more a sort of long service thing (since McD have little idea of what constitutes customer service).

You last five days, you get five stars   ;)