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All the media are having a bash at this, finding 'experts' to speculate on the cause so we should too... Place your bets (and your theories) below.
I'm guessing that there won't be a strong smell of aviation fuel at the crash site... whistle:
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I think it was a plane, landing short on the runway, after losing power...
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Radio 5:
"They've got to look at the 'flight data recorder', the black box to you and me".
Er what is it about the term flight data recorder that is so difficult to understand and what informatio does black box give us?
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I think it was a plane, landing short on the runway, after losing power...
Can't fault your logic there... noooo:
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Radio 5:
"They've got to look at the 'flight data recorder', the black box to you and me".
Er what is it about the term flight data recorder that is so difficult to understand and what informatio does black box give us?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide On Time! *
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Typical dumbing-down – pisses me off too...
Why can't they just say flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder – the bloody things aren't even black! Banghead
Unfortunately >40
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I think it was a plane, landing short on the runway, after losing power...
Can't fault your logic there... noooo:
Case closed!
No need to youtube Black Box - Ride on Time (featuring Rozalla i think) it was gash!
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Was it a female driver ?
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Apparently the plane narrowly missed Gordon Brown. Pity eveilgrin:
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Pilot left the handbrake on.
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Was it a female driver ?
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Was it a female driver ?
Just as well you asked that one Miss D, had it been one of the guys on here there would have been hell up ;D
I suppose they could always use the old British Rail excuse, wrong kind of air on the airport.
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Well, having watched the aviation industry for a while now, I have to admit to having some reservations about modern planes.
I believe I'm right in saying that the Boeing 777 is a 'fly by wire' aircraft, in which case, the pilots have no direct control over anything. More a case of 'ask the computer nicely and it will do what you want'.
Now, how often have you guys had either a complete system freeze or a 'blue screen of death' (BSOD) occur?
Supposing, just for arguments sake, that this (or something similar) happened to the the flight system controlling the engines?
It is certainly unusual for both to quit at once! Bird strike would kill one - two at the same time is stretching it a bit. Same for fuel, I'd expect one to quit way before the other (same for mechanical issues).
I suspect the answer will lie in the 'fly by wire' stuff - some errant signal told both engines to cease operation thus rendering the aircraft a glider and, since the modern jet has all the gliding characteristics of a house brick, the result was inevitable.
Let's wait and see - though there may be an attempt at a cover-up if too much money is involved on the part of Boeing (think class action law suits).
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Well, having watched the aviation industry for a while now, I have to admit to having some reservations about modern planes.
I believe I'm right in saying that the Boeing 777 is a 'fly by wire' aircraft, in which case, the pilots have no direct control over anything. More a case of 'ask the computer nicely and it will do what you want'.
Now, how often have you guys had either a complete system freeze or a 'blue screen of death' (BSOD) occur?
Supposing, just for arguments sake, that this (or something similar) happened to the the flight system controlling the engines?
It is certainly unusual for both to quit at once! Bird strike would kill one - two at the same time is stretching it a bit. Same for fuel, I'd expect one to quit way before the other (same for mechanical issues).
I suspect the answer will lie in the 'fly by wire' stuff - some errant signal told both engines to cease operation thus rendering the aircraft a glider and, since the modern jet has all the gliding characteristics of a house brick, the result was inevitable.
Let's wait and see - though there may be an attempt at a cover-up if too much money is involved on the part of Boeing (think class action law suits).
Vista prolly... noooo:
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Are you saying that Microsoft provide the software for airlines BM? eeek: eeek: eeek: eeek: eeek: eeek:
Well I suppose in that case the Blue Screen of Death would be appropriate. noooo:
That settles it, not only am I never flying again I'm going to find somewhere far away from commercial air routes to move to. scared:
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Pilot error. Heroes at the moment but you wait and see. I can visualise it:
Co-Pilot: Are we there yet?
Pilot: Dunno
Co-Pilot: Are we there yet?
Pilot: Dunno
Co-Pilot: You fancy a pint when we get down?
Pilot: Nah. I've had seven since Shanghai.
Co-pilot: Is that the London eye?
Pilot: Prolly. Gear down.
Co-pilot: Oooh look. A runway.
(sound of ignition key being turned and hand brake being appllied)
Co-pilot: Why does that dial thingy say 400ft?
Pilot: OH FU...!
noooo:
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Pilot error. Heroes at the moment but you wait and see. I can visualise it:
Co-Pilot: Are we there yet?
Pilot: Dunno
Co-Pilot: Are we there yet?
Pilot: Dunno
Co-Pilot: You fancy a pint when we get down?
Pilot: Nah. I've had seven since Shaghai.
Co-pilot: Is that the London eye?
Pilot: Prolly. Gear down.
Co-pilot: Oooh look. A runway.
(sound of ignition key being turned and hand brake being appllied)
Co-pilot: Why does that dial thingy say 400ft?
Pilot: OH FU...!
noooo:
I noticed everybody praising the pilots this morning (including that odious shite Brown) and thought at the time how quickly it will all change if 'pilot error' is found to be the cause...
My money is still on lack of fuel although that too would be 'pilot error' if they failed to manage the situation and divert in time...
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I thought it was planes coming back from India that normally had the skids lol:
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Pilot error. Heroes at the moment but you wait and see. I can visualise it:
Co-Pilot: Are we there yet?
Pilot: Dunno
Co-Pilot: Are we there yet?
Pilot: Dunno
Co-Pilot: You fancy a pint when we get down?
Pilot: Nah. I've had seven since Shanghai.
Co-pilot: Is that the London eye?
Pilot: Prolly. Gear down.
Co-pilot: Oooh look. A runway.
(sound of ignition key being turned and hand brake being appllied)
Co-pilot: Why does that dial thingy say 400ft?
Pilot: OH FU...!
noooo:
That reminds be about the old Are Lingus pilots joke where one pilot says 'Jeysus the runway's narrow' and the other goes 'aye, but look how bloody wide it is'
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That reminds be about the old Are Lingus pilots joke where one pilot says 'Jeysus the runway's narrow' and the other goes 'aye, but look how bloody wide it is'
confused2:
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That reminds be about the old Are Lingus pilots joke where one pilot says 'Jeysus the runway's narrow' and the other goes 'aye, but look how bloody wide it is'
confused2:
Short... he means short not narrow... doh:
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Sorry was trying to type that while fielding questions from one of the hordes of college kids being shown around the office redface:
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Well, having watched the aviation industry for a while now, I have to admit to having some reservations about modern planes.
I believe I'm right in saying that the Boeing 777 is a 'fly by wire' aircraft, in which case, the pilots have no direct control over anything. More a case of 'ask the computer nicely and it will do what you want'.
Now, how often have you guys had either a complete system freeze or a 'blue screen of death' (BSOD) occur?
Supposing, just for arguments sake, that this (or something similar) happened to the the flight system controlling the engines?
It is certainly unusual for both to quit at once! Bird strike would kill one - two at the same time is stretching it a bit. Same for fuel, I'd expect one to quit way before the other (same for mechanical issues).
I suspect the answer will lie in the 'fly by wire' stuff - some errant signal told both engines to cease operation thus rendering the aircraft a glider and, since the modern jet has all the gliding characteristics of a house brick, the result was inevitable.
Let's wait and see - though there may be an attempt at a cover-up if too much money is involved on the part of Boeing (think class action law suits).
"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't let you do that"
Plus related earworm:
"Daisy, Daisy, Give me your answer do. . ."
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Well, having watched the aviation industry for a while now, I have to admit to having some reservations about modern planes.
I believe I'm right in saying that the Boeing 777 is a 'fly by wire' aircraft, in which case, the pilots have no direct control over anything. More a case of 'ask the computer nicely and it will do what you want'.
Now, how often have you guys had either a complete system freeze or a 'blue screen of death' (BSOD) occur?
Supposing, just for arguments sake, that this (or something similar) happened to the the flight system controlling the engines?
It is certainly unusual for both to quit at once! Bird strike would kill one - two at the same time is stretching it a bit. Same for fuel, I'd expect one to quit way before the other (same for mechanical issues).
I suspect the answer will lie in the 'fly by wire' stuff - some errant signal told both engines to cease operation thus rendering the aircraft a glider and, since the modern jet has all the gliding characteristics of a house brick, the result was inevitable.
Let's wait and see - though there may be an attempt at a cover-up if too much money is involved on the part of Boeing (think class action law suits).
"I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't let you do that"
Plus related earworm:
"Daisy, Daisy, Give me your answer do. . ."
Normally DS, I can see the links between other posts and your own, however, on this occasion, the earworm reference has passed me by completely - unless, of course, you are suggesting that a Boeing 777 is a type of 'bicycle made for two'?
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Have you ever seen a film called '2001' Marley? whistle:
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Have you ever seen a film called '2001' Marley? whistle:
Thank you GM.
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Radio 5:
"They've got to look at the 'flight data recorder', the black box to you and me".
Er what is it about the term flight data recorder that is so difficult to understand and what informatio does black box give us?
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Typical dumbing-down – pisses me off too...
Why can't they just say flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder – the bloody things aren't even black! Banghead
Unfortunately >40
They just called it a flight data recorder on World at One... cloud9:
I'm waiting for them to say it slid the length of twenty double-decker buses... Banghead
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I suspect someone switched their mobile on while the plane was landing and that screwed up all the computers on the plane bom
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Radio 5:
"They've got to look at the 'flight data recorder', the black box to you and me".
Er what is it about the term flight data recorder that is so difficult to understand and what informatio does black box give us?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide On Time! *
Reference only suitable for <40's
Typical dumbing-down – pisses me off too...
Why can't they just say flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder – the bloody things aren't even black! Banghead
Unfortunately >40
They just called it a flight data recorder on World at One... cloud9:
I'm waiting for them to say it slid the length of twenty double-decker buses... Banghead
Two football pitches, silly. ::)
Geordie is probably right about the mobile phone.
Either that or somebody pulled their tray down or armrest up.
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Radio 5:
"They've got to look at the 'flight data recorder', the black box to you and me".
Er what is it about the term flight data recorder that is so difficult to understand and what informatio does black box give us?
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide On Time! *
Reference only suitable for <40's
Typical dumbing-down – pisses me off too...
Why can't they just say flight data recorder and cockpit voice recorder – the bloody things aren't even black! Banghead
Unfortunately >40
They just called it a flight data recorder on World at One... cloud9:
I'm waiting for them to say it slid the length of twenty double-decker buses... Banghead
Two football pitches, silly. ::)
Geordie is probably right about the mobile phone.
Either that or somebody pulled their tray down or armrest up.
lol: lol: lol:
Or had a fag in the toilet... whistle:
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It reports in the London Evening Standard that the pilot is "doing fine" and that he and his two co-pilots went for a curry last night to "return to normality". Hmmm. You've just stuck a 200 foot arepolane into the gound like a dart and a chicken balti is all that is needed to over it. You've gotta hand it to these pilots - they have a certain style. I wonder how much Cobra was consumed...and can you imagine the conversation with the waiters? "Hello sirs, have you had a good day?"
"Yeah, not bad, just crashed a passenger jet. Can we have three Cobras and six popadoms - three spicy?"
"Very good, sir, we love your English humour"
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It reports in the London Evening Standard that the pilot is "doing fine" and that he and his two co-pilots went for a curry last night to "return to normality". Hmmm. You've just stuck a 200 foot arepolane into the gound like a dart and a chicken balti is all that is needed to over it. You've gotta hand it to these pilots - they have a certain style. I wonder how much Cobra was consumed...and can you imagine the conversation with the waiters? "Hello sirs, have you had a good day?"
"Yeah, not bad, just crashed a passenger jet. Can we have three Cobras and six popadoms - three spicy?"
"Very good, sir, we love your English humour"
lol: lol: lol:
Or 'No, we fucked-up and didn't put enough fuel in the plane... we're enjoying the fame while we can'... point:
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"Reliable witnesses" claim that lots of fuel was leaking from the wreckage, so I'm not sure that was the cause. Personally, I think the pilot was giving one of the the stewardesses one over his seat and in the height of passion she somehow pressed the "turn engines off" button, the result of which was that it wasn't only the plane that flopped...
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It reports in the London Evening Standard that the pilot is "doing fine" and that he and his two co-pilots went for a curry last night to "return to normality". Hmmm. You've just stuck a 200 foot arepolane into the gound like a dart and a chicken balti is all that is needed to over it. You've gotta hand it to these pilots - they have a certain style. I wonder how much Cobra was consumed...and can you imagine the conversation with the waiters? "Hello sirs, have you had a good day?"
"Yeah, not bad, just crashed a passenger jet. Can we have three Cobras and six popadoms - three spicy?"
"Very good, sir, we love your English humour"
lol: lol: lol:
Or 'No, we fucked-up and didn't put enough fuel in the plane... we're enjoying the fame while we can'... point:
Pilot: "Now is 1 Litre is 4.55 gallons or the other way round"
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It reports in the London Evening Standard that the pilot is "doing fine" and that he and his two co-pilots went for a curry last night to "return to normality". Hmmm. You've just stuck a 200 foot arepolane into the gound like a dart and a chicken balti is all that is needed to over it. You've gotta hand it to these pilots - they have a certain style. I wonder how much Cobra was consumed...and can you imagine the conversation with the waiters? "Hello sirs, have you had a good day?"
"Yeah, not bad, just crashed a passenger jet. Can we have three Cobras and six popadoms - three spicy?"
"Very good, sir, we love your English humour"
lol: lol: lol:
Or 'No, we fucked-up and didn't put enough fuel in the plane... we're enjoying the fame while we can'... point:
Pilot: "Now is 1 Litre is 4.55 gallons or the other way round"
lol:
Plus he had to then tell the Chinese tanker driver how much to put in at Beijing...
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It was the co-pilot wot landed it. And the captain takes the glory!
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It is certainly unusual for both to quit at once! Bird strike would kill one - two at the same time is stretching it a bit.
Jamie Fuckin Oliver again, bird strike indeed. Did they create a picket line of feathers.
"What do we want, bigger cages, when do we want it, now, pukka!"
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It was the co-pilot wot landed it. And the captain takes the glory!
I have to question why the co-pilot was allowed to take it in...
You would've imagined that the pilot in charge would have taken control when the emergency occurred...
Unless he was in the bog or had a stewardess on his lap of course... whistle:
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It was the co-pilot wot landed it. And the captain takes the glory!
I have to question why the co-pilot was allowed to take it in...
You would've imagined that the pilot in charge would have taken control when the emergency occurred...
Unless he was in the bog or had a stewardess on his lap of course... whistle:
Or both. eyes:
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It was the co-pilot wot landed it. And the captain takes the glory!
I have to question why the co-pilot was allowed to take it in...
You would've imagined that the pilot in charge would have taken control when the emergency occurred...
Unless he was in the bog or had a stewardess on his lap of course... whistle:
Or both. eyes:
lol: lol: lol:
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Was Prince William at the controls ?
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Was Prince William at the controls ?
doh:
Don't get me started on flying lessons at taxpayer’s expense for royals… Banghead
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Have you ever seen a film called '2001' Marley? whistle:
Thank you GM.
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I am quite familiar with 2001 and the HAL reference - it was the Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do bit that I couldn't quite grasp the relevance of.
I don't recall that either Dave or HAL sang it - but then, I could be wrong.
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It was the co-pilot wot landed it. And the captain takes the glory!
I noticed the glum faces on both pilots and the almost in tears look of the head stewardess (or whatever) during the recital of the official prepared BA script, Christ! I have had just managed to glide that huge bugger in without injuring any body I would have been over the bloody moon and have the biggest grin this side of Chesire.
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It was the co-pilot wot landed it. And the captain takes the glory!
I noticed the glum faces on both pilots and the almost in tears look of the head stewardess (or whatever) during the recital of the official prepared BA script, Christ! I have had just managed to glide that huge bugger in without injuring any body I would have been over the bloody moon and have the biggest grin this side of Chesire.
Unless you’d actually fucked-up and switched everything off too early or similar… whistle:
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All the media are having a bash at this, finding 'experts' to speculate on the cause so we should too... Place your bets (and your theories) below.
I'm guessing that there won't be a strong smell of aviation fuel at the crash site... whistle:
This is the news that we heard in Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus about crash.
ENGINE FAILURE BLAMED FOR HEATHROW CRASH LANDING.
An investigation has revealed that the engines of a British Airways plane failed shortly before a crash-landing at Heathrow airport on Thursday.
Thirteen people were injured - one of them seriously - when British Airways flight 38 from Beijing came down well short of the runway.
It has been established the engines failed to respond at around 200 metres from landing.
According to the Air Accidents Investigation Branch, an inquiry will now focus on more detailed analysis of information from the flight recorder and other recorded material.
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All the media are having a bash at this, finding 'experts' to speculate on the cause so we should too... Place your bets (and your theories) below.
I'm guessing that there won't be a strong smell of aviation fuel at the crash site... whistle:
This is the news that we heard in Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus about crash.
ENGINE FAILURE BLAMED FOR HEATHROW CRASH LANDING.
An investigation has revealed that the engines of a British Airways plane failed shortly before a crash-landing at Heathrow airport on Thursday.
Thirteen people were injured - one of them seriously - when British Airways flight 38 from Beijing came down well short of the runway.
It has been established the engines failed to respond at around 200 metres from landing.
According to the Air Accidents Investigation Branch, an inquiry will now focus on more detailed analysis of information from the flight recorder and other recorded material.
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Like what the Captain had on his Ipod at the time?
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All the media are having a bash at this, finding 'experts' to speculate on the cause so we should too... Place your bets (and your theories) below.
I'm guessing that there won't be a strong smell of aviation fuel at the crash site... whistle:
This is the news that we heard in Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus about crash.
ENGINE FAILURE BLAMED FOR HEATHROW CRASH LANDING.
An investigation has revealed that the engines of a British Airways plane failed shortly before a crash-landing at Heathrow airport on Thursday.
Thirteen people were injured - one of them seriously - when British Airways flight 38 from Beijing came down well short of the runway.
It has been established the engines failed to respond at around 200 metres from landing.
According to the Air Accidents Investigation Branch, an inquiry will now focus on more detailed analysis of information from the flight recorder and other recorded material.
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Like what the Captain had on his Ipod at the time?
I'm still more interested in what he had on his lap at the time... whistle:
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Que?
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I have had just managed to glide that huge bugger in without injuring any body I would have been over the bloody moon and have the biggest grin this side of Chesire.
Scuse me, I'm in Cheshire, it's no smile fest I tell ya.
The cats up here are as miserable and smug as everywhere...
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Have you ever seen a film called '2001' Marley? whistle:
Thank you GM.
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I am quite familiar with 2001 and the HAL reference - it was the Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do bit that I couldn't quite grasp the relevance of.
I don't recall that either Dave or HAL sang it - but then, I could be wrong.
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HAL sang it as he was being shut down.
Something like "My maker taught me this song when I was being built".
You were probably trying to pick the popcorn out of your lap at that point in the film.
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Mmmmm. . . . .
It would seem (from today's story in the Daily Mail) that my initial speculation may well have been correct.
Full story here (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/columnists/columnists.html?in_article_id=509418&in_page_id=1772&in_author_id=227)
The real story was that the plane had lost power and the crew didn't appear to know why. Such mysteries concern air travellers more than heroics.
The Boeing 777 is a "fly-by-wire" jetliner. Its flying controls are activated by computer.
In this case, the computer seems to have shut down the engines and refused to re-light them. And there was nothing the pilots could do about it. Scary!
But if this is so, why did the Air 17 Accidents Investigation Branch say there was no need to ground Boeing 777s, of which BA has 43?
This suggests the AAIB know what caused the plane to lose power, and are confident it won't happen again. If they do, why haven't they let on to us about it?
There are no mysteries in computers-It's our relationship with them that is sometimes mysterious.
If BA038's computer decided to shut down its engines, it won't have been because it came to some perverse decision all by itself. It will have been its interpretation of human instructions. What is known as "a software anomaly".
HAL, the spaceship- controlling computer in Stanley Kubrick's movie 2001: A Space Odyssey, accustomed us to the idea that such electronics might have a life of their own but that's nonsense.
With computers it's "rubbish in, rubbish out".
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P.S. Thanks for clarifying the link to the Daisy, Daisy element DS - I'd forgotten that bit - must re-watch when I get the chance.
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I am quite familiar with 2001 and the HAL reference - it was the Daisy, Daisy, give me your answer do bit that I couldn't quite grasp the relevance of.
I don't recall that either Dave or HAL sang it - but then, I could be wrong.
***GEEK ALERT***
HAL sang it as he was being shut down.
Something like "My maker taught me this song when I was being built".
You were probably trying to pick the popcorn out of your lap at that point in the film.
I put a HAL screensaver on my PDA and left it in the office once, scared the hell out of the old office numpty when it started talking and even more so when it sang that song. I'm still convinced he thought it was trying to have a conversation with him whistle:
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Still only speculation though.
I seem to remember reading somewhere that planes could be programmed to fly themselves but because the engines need to go into reverse thrust on touchdown and as it would catastrophic if that happened in flight, nobody would trust putting it under the control of the on-board computers .
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Mmmmm. . . . .
It would seem (from today's story in the Daily Mail) that my initial speculation may well have been correct.
Full story here (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/columnists/columnists.html?in_article_id=509418&in_page_id=1772&in_author_id=227)
The real story was that the plane had lost power and the crew didn't appear to know why. Such mysteries concern air travellers more than heroics.
The Boeing 777 is a "fly-by-wire" jetliner. Its flying controls are activated by computer.
In this case, the computer seems to have shut down the engines and refused to re-light them. And there was nothing the pilots could do about it. Scary!
But if this is so, why did the Air 17 Accidents Investigation Branch say there was no need to ground Boeing 777s, of which BA has 43?
This suggests the AAIB know what caused the plane to lose power, and are confident it won't happen again. If they do, why haven't they let on to us about it?
There are no mysteries in computers-It's our relationship with them that is sometimes mysterious.
If BA038's computer decided to shut down its engines, it won't have been because it came to some perverse decision all by itself. It will have been its interpretation of human instructions. What is known as "a software anomaly".
HAL, the spaceship- controlling computer in Stanley Kubrick's movie 2001: A Space Odyssey, accustomed us to the idea that such electronics might have a life of their own but that's nonsense.
With computers it's "rubbish in, rubbish out".
Comments?
P.S. Thanks for clarifying the link to the Daisy, Daisy element DS - I'd forgotten that bit - must re-watch when I get the chance.
When you think that there are probably millions of lines of code that control the thing its not surprising that a certain set of circumstances may not have been anticipated and the program got into a loop of NOPs or something…
Having said that, I’d have thought that there would have been multiple systems, each developed separately that checked the actions of each other and could overrule a routine that was misbehaving.
It does seem strange that the rest of the fleet haven’t been grounded.
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whistle: whistle: whistle:
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whistle: whistle: whistle:
I said that! cussing:
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Maybe this popped up on one of their screens...
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi20.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb236%2Ftafmad%2FMSfatal.jpg&hash=11322b28441f773187071cf973d30dfef10a85a7)
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(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallydesign.co.uk%2Fcatalog%2Fimages%2FFUEL.jpg&hash=517c3f0a4f1c706bb4251b7e78f5ea5c5c70feba)
whistle: whistle: whistle:
I said that! cussing:
Yes, but you lack my mature credibility. ;)
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(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallydesign.co.uk%2Fcatalog%2Fimages%2FFUEL.jpg&hash=517c3f0a4f1c706bb4251b7e78f5ea5c5c70feba)
whistle: whistle: whistle:
I said that! cussing:
Yes, but you lack my mature credibility. ;)
rubschin:
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Just a thought but wasnt this crash during nick's absence or am I mistaken? rubschin:
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evil:
I suspect the "fly by wire" business which no one is talking about
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I suspect the "fly by wire" business
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcontrollineworld.com%2Fimages%2Fcircle.jpg&hash=ef3f44febf9f4b73dffc7ed4f4f7a9bbd6d1e99b)
rubschin:
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What ya mean Willis? A wire broke or sumfink?
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You’ve seen that advert where the nutty woman crashes the guy’s model ‘plane just because he pushed her car door closed with his foot? eeek:
You don’t think… rubschin:
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You’ve seen that advert where the nutty woman crashes the guy’s model ‘plane just because he pushed her car door closed with his foot?
Kicked her in the yaris you mean?
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You’ve seen that advert where the nutty woman crashes the guy’s model ‘plane just because he pushed her car door closed with his foot?
Kicked her in the yaris you mean?
Yes, that's the one... you don't think...? rubschin:
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noooo:
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noooo:
But...but... but... scared2:
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The new car arrives tomorrow. ANother Yaris noooo:
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The new car arrives tomorrow. ANother Yaris noooo:
doh: scared2:
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Anyway, about the aircraft thingy. It seems the pilot may have been distracted.........
(https://www.virtual-pub.com/SMF/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.postimage.org%2FaV1cwLWi.jpg&hash=4256f09a703257108d9587a8f0e8842b315d4e2a) (http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=aV1cwLWi)
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Excellent! lol: