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Title: Vulcan
Post by: TG on October 18, 2007, 12:10:04 PM
I'm suprised i didnt hear it from here. If you have ever had one of these fly over you then you'll know what I mean.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/7049694.stm

http://www.tvoc.co.uk/ (this site is busy at present)
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Uncle Mort on October 18, 2007, 12:23:16 PM
Look here (http://maps.live.com/#JndoZXJlMT1CcnVudGluZ3Rob3JwZSZiYj01NC41NzIwNjE2NTU2NTg1JTdlNi42Nzk2ODc0OTk5OTk5OSU3ZTQ4LjIzOTMwODk5MDI0OTElN2UtNi42Nzk2ODc0OTk5OTk5OQ==)

Change to aerial view and zoom in on the northeast end of the runway.
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on October 18, 2007, 12:28:16 PM
That brings a lump to my throat!

I worked on Vulcans at Scampton in the late 60's/early 70's and always considered it to be one of the best looking aircraft of all time.

I remember watching a certain Wing Commander Vesey practicing for an air display once. All of us climbed on the crew room roof to get a better view.

To see one of these aircraft 'beat up' the runway at such a low level that had it dropped its undercart it would have crashed was a sight to behold. And then, he hit 105% and pulled the stick back! What a sight and what a sound! AFAIAA he was the only pilot on squadron to actually exceed 90 degrees of bank - it was never authorised for inverted flight but he came damned close. I believe one of the early test pilots did something similar.

Long live the Vulcan!


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Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Snoopy on October 18, 2007, 12:43:02 PM
Live Long and Prosper

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Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: tel on October 18, 2007, 12:45:24 PM
Which of the V-Bombers was it, that they used to test the Concorde engines - made an incredible noise.
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Uncle Mort on October 18, 2007, 12:51:18 PM
Which of the V-Bombers was it, that they used to test the Concorde engines - made an incredible noise.

T'was the Vulcan (I saw one once)

This thread just reminded me that this plane flew low over my house yesterday morning on it's way into Stansted.

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Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Snoopy on October 18, 2007, 12:52:22 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FybXMMCAHsE

NB Not in answer to the question 'bout Concorde but a good piece of video of a Vulcan for all that.

And the last show in 1992

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xJZ0fmTUdWo
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: tel on October 18, 2007, 01:00:41 PM
I remember my father working on control systems for Concorde and TSR2. He sometimes went to Bristol and witnessed some of the engine testing.
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Darwins Selection on October 18, 2007, 01:18:39 PM
Which of the V-Bombers was it, that they used to test the Concorde engines - made an incredible noise.

That was a Vulcan.

It used to fly over here from Farnborough. cloud9:
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on October 18, 2007, 01:20:11 PM
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FybXMMCAHsE

NB Not in answer to the question 'bout Concorde but a good piece of video of a Vulcan for all that.

And the last show in 1992

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=xJZ0fmTUdWo

Watching those brought back another memory.

T'was 1970 IIRC and we were on an exercise which took us to Hickam USAF base in Hawaii. After the 4 V's had landed, the yanks were extracting the michael unmercifully due to their not being very BIG.

Anyway, the aircrew decided that they didn't like this one bit and hatched a plot. They got us to put word out to be on the airfield with as many natives as possible a 8a.m. next morning when they were scheduled to leave.

Went out - loads of 'natives' (i.e. local USAF personnel) there to watch. 4 V's started engines and taxied to the end of the runway (shared, incidentally, with Honolulu International Airport) where they lined up. All 4 spooled up the big Olympus engines, held on the brakes until the word.

Leader got clearance, and, on his sayso, they all gave it 105% and moved off together. They all clung to the deck until well past V2 and, again on the guvnors say so, pulled back in synch.

You've never seen so many American jaws on the floor. Those things went off near vertical.

We were delighted. Turned to the locals (who had been saying "Bombers, they're not bombers" to us all night) and said: "Those are bombers!"

Looked mighty impressive compared to the lumbering old B52's they were flying which almost had to flap their wings to get off the ground!

Didn't buy a single beer that night in the BX!
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on October 18, 2007, 01:20:56 PM
Which of the V-Bombers was it, that they used to test the Concorde engines - made an incredible noise.

That was a Vulcan.

It used to fly over here from Farnborough. cloud9:

. . . and it turned up at Scampton on a couple of occasions.
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on October 18, 2007, 01:23:38 PM
I remember my father working on control systems for Concorde and TSR2. He sometimes went to Bristol and witnessed some of the engine testing.

Cracking aircraft that was (TSR2). Pity the dozy buggers in power at the time (mid/late 60's IIRC) cancelled it. It would have been a world beater!

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Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: tel on October 18, 2007, 01:28:46 PM
Twould still be in service, I am sure.
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Darwins Selection on October 18, 2007, 01:30:29 PM
the dozy buggers in power at the time

Wilson. evil:
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Pastis on October 18, 2007, 02:02:43 PM
the dozy buggers in power at the time

Wilson. evil:

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You called? Captain?
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Bar Wench on October 18, 2007, 02:04:37 PM
Live Long and Prosper

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The actor that plays Sylar is playing him in the new Star Trek film.
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Misunderstood on October 19, 2007, 12:48:15 AM
Going back to that Google earth Vulcan pic wasn't that aircraft on the taxiway a Canberra?  and a Victor top right?

The 'Aircraft' that early Concorde engine and wing geometry tests were done with is in RNAS Yeovilton Fleet Air Arm Museum along with Concorde 002 er...  G - BSST    I forget what it was called - but it was an engine with wings.  IIRC.
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Barman on October 19, 2007, 04:59:24 AM

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Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Snoopy on October 19, 2007, 09:54:08 AM
I've just been reading up on all they have done to get this Vulcan back into the air ~ made me think of Trigger's Broom in OFaH. Lasted for umpteen years and has only had three new handles and five new heads. lol:
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Barman on October 19, 2007, 12:25:32 PM
I've just been reading up on all they have done to get this Vulcan back into the air ~ made me think of Trigger's Broom in OFaH. Lasted for umpteen years and has only had three new handles and five new heads. lol:
I think it is fantastic that they’ve got such a beautiful and historically significant aircraft back in the air where it belongs.

But isn’t it stupid that we let the thing be grounded in the first place – I ‘spec the same thing will happen to the Harrier. Its amazing that the government can’t find a few million for something like this that makes many of us proud to be part of the country (for a few minutes at least).

I wonder if a similar organisation could get Concorde back in the air?
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Snoopy on October 19, 2007, 12:28:37 PM
I've just been reading up on all they have done to get this Vulcan back into the air ~ made me think of Trigger's Broom in OFaH. Lasted for umpteen years and has only had three new handles and five new heads. lol:
I think it is fantastic that they’ve got such a beautiful and historically significant aircraft back in the air where it belongs.

But isn’t it stupid that we let the thing be grounded in the first place – I ‘spec the same thing will happen to the Harrier. Its amazing that the government can’t find a few million for something like this that makes many of us proud to be part of the country (for a few minutes at least).

I wonder if a similar organisation could get Concorde back in the air?


You are talking mega bucks for that one BM. ..... More than even you could afford.
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Barman on October 19, 2007, 12:43:59 PM
I've just been reading up on all they have done to get this Vulcan back into the air ~ made me think of Trigger's Broom in OFaH. Lasted for umpteen years and has only had three new handles and five new heads. lol:
I think it is fantastic that they’ve got such a beautiful and historically significant aircraft back in the air where it belongs.

But isn’t it stupid that we let the thing be grounded in the first place – I ‘spec the same thing will happen to the Harrier. Its amazing that the government can’t find a few million for something like this that makes many of us proud to be part of the country (for a few minutes at least).

I wonder if a similar organisation could get Concorde back in the air?


You are talking mega bucks for that one BM. ..... More than even you could afford.
I don’t see why tho – they were all updated, Kevlar lined fuel tanks, new interiors, bloody millions spent on them… It was only the media that hounded them from the skies…

If they did it now it would be significantly cheaper and more practical than attempting it in ten years time when they’ve been standing out in the open without any maintenance.
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Snoopy on October 19, 2007, 12:46:32 PM
Do you really think it was the media? ~ I formed the impression that it was:
(i) The French
(ii) Fear of litigation
(iii) The Yanks ~ who never liked it because it wasn't theirs
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Barman on October 19, 2007, 12:50:09 PM
I really feel the media hounded it out of the sky… it was too good a story for them every time something went wrong on a flight. In the end it was inevitable that it would be taken out of service.

I bet there are millions that would like a chance to fly on it tho and would buy ‘shares’ for a chance to do so if a team could be put together to get it back in the air…
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Snoopy on October 19, 2007, 01:04:52 PM
I really feel the media hounded it out of the sky… it was too good a story for them every time something went wrong on a flight. In the end it was inevitable that it would be taken out of service.

I bet there are millions that would like a chance to fly on it tho and would buy ‘shares’ for a chance to do so if a team could be put together to get it back in the air…

Sort of a Pound (£) a rivet investment .... sell enough rivets and she flies ...... Good idea 'though I 'spect we'd have trouble selling the scheme to the Revenue.
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Barman on October 19, 2007, 01:09:12 PM
I really feel the media hounded it out of the sky… it was too good a story for them every time something went wrong on a flight. In the end it was inevitable that it would be taken out of service.

I bet there are millions that would like a chance to fly on it tho and would buy ‘shares’ for a chance to do so if a team could be put together to get it back in the air…

Sort of a Pound (£) a rivet investment .... sell enough rivets and she flies ...... Good idea 'though I 'spect we'd have trouble selling the scheme to the Revenue.
We need Ant and Dec and a premium 'phone line - there are plenty of daft buggers that will call it.
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Snoopy on October 19, 2007, 01:10:36 PM
Not anymore there aren't
















Oh I don't know some most people never learn
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Bar Wench on October 19, 2007, 01:15:01 PM
 redface:
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Marley's Ghost (Imbiber of Spirits) on October 19, 2007, 01:17:51 PM
redface:

You didn't did you? Oh dear  cry:
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: tel on October 19, 2007, 01:28:38 PM
redface:

You didn't did you? Oh dear  cry:

Wenchy does have her little foibles.
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Barman on October 19, 2007, 01:29:40 PM
redface:
point:
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Barman on October 19, 2007, 01:30:27 PM
redface:

You didn't did you? Oh dear  cry:

Wenchy does have her little foibles.
I thought she had big foibles...  sad24:
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Landlady on October 19, 2007, 01:33:29 PM
redface:

You didn't did you? Oh dear  cry:

Wenchy does have her little foibles.
I thought she had big foibles...  sad24:

Get the UZI ready Wenchy  eyes: I feel carnage will out  whistle:
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: tel on October 19, 2007, 01:35:41 PM
redface:

You didn't did you? Oh dear  cry:

Wenchy does have her little foibles.
I thought she had big foibles...  sad24:

Yes, but I tried to be discrete
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Bar Wench on October 19, 2007, 01:42:34 PM
evil:
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: tel on October 19, 2007, 01:44:40 PM
evil:

That's like one of things you shoot at, at fun-fairs.

Anybody had a pot shot at you recently?
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Bar Wench on October 19, 2007, 01:45:33 PM
Many people.  sad32:
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: tel on October 19, 2007, 02:16:15 PM
Anybody score? whistle:
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Bar Wench on October 19, 2007, 02:21:23 PM
 evil:
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Snoopy on October 19, 2007, 04:01:24 PM
We'll take that as a No then
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Grumpmeister on October 22, 2007, 06:43:09 PM
Live Long and Prosper

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The actor that plays Sylar is playing him in the new Star Trek film.

And Simon Pegg has been offered the part of Scotty  happy001
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: TG on October 22, 2007, 07:48:50 PM
And Karl Urban (last seen swinging his chopper in Lord of the Rings, Pathfinder etc) as McCoy sounds like a serious piece of mis-casting on the face of it. We shall see.
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: Barman on October 23, 2007, 07:04:35 AM
One of our friends in the village has blagged a flight on it – just because he is a retired group captain or some such…  sad24:
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: TG on April 14, 2008, 02:41:58 PM
Bump

Whoopee! I have the office window open, should need ear guards if it passes with ten miles.  cloud9:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/7345852.stm
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: TG on April 15, 2008, 07:37:39 AM
Oops.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/7347277.stm
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: TG on April 16, 2008, 02:45:17 PM
Ooops again. Sort it out lads. We might need it one day.  noooo:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/leicestershire/7350861.stm
Title: Re: Vulcan
Post by: grumpyoldsoldier on April 16, 2008, 07:31:12 PM
the dozy buggers in power at the time

Wilson. evil:

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You called? Captain?
No! get back in the ranks!