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Title: Keir Starmer
Post by: Uncle Mort on April 01, 2022, 07:52:14 AM
He's on the Beeb news, he hasn't got a clue what to do except slag off the Tories. What an arse.  noooo:
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Barman on April 01, 2022, 07:59:16 AM
He's on the Beeb news, he hasn't got a clue what to do except slag off the Tories. What an arse.  noooo:

He can't even say what a woman is... Amazing how we have come to this...  noooo:
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Steve on April 01, 2022, 09:58:06 AM
He's on the Beeb news, he hasn't got a clue what to do except slag off the Tories. What an arse.  noooo:
How does that compare to someone who says he doesn't know if he's been to a party?
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Uncle Mort on April 01, 2022, 11:04:04 AM
Quite well actually, Keir has no idea what to do under any circumstance; Boris knows enough to recognize when to lie.
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Steve on April 01, 2022, 11:17:58 AM
Quite well actually, Keir has no idea what to do under any circumstance; Boris knows enough to recognize when to lie.
Give me strength  ::)

You actually want a leader that will lie and lie to you and shaft you?  Really?

And you say ' he hasn't got a clue what to do except slag off the Tories. ' seems you missed that he very clearly said what he would do which is to levy a one off tax to fund price reductions.  I don't agree with it, I don't agree with the ambiguity of 'up to £600' but he definitely said what he'd do about the #1 UK issue right now.  So why did you misrepresent this?
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Barman on April 01, 2022, 11:21:00 AM
He's on the Beeb news, he hasn't got a clue what to do except slag off the Tories. What an arse.  noooo:
How does that compare to someone who says he doesn't know if he's been to a party?

Oh come on Steve! They all lie... Fuck me, it is part of the job description!  lol:

At least Boris knows a bit about Biology - unlike Sir Kneelalot...
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Steve on April 01, 2022, 11:28:08 AM
He's on the Beeb news, he hasn't got a clue what to do except slag off the Tories. What an arse.  noooo:
How does that compare to someone who says he doesn't know if he's been to a party?

Oh come on Steve! They all lie... Fuck me, it is part of the job description!  lol:

At least Boris knows a bit about Biology - unlike Sir Kneelalot...
Oh that classic lie saying 'they all lie'  No they don't. 

And Boris has U turned over and over on the gender issue.

There are some really decent politicians in the Tory ranks and yet we have to have that piece of junk as a Tory PM.
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Uncle Mort on April 01, 2022, 11:34:08 AM
I'd prefer an honest politician but I wont hold my breathe. As to Keir's one off tax, he knows enough to be aware it wouldn't work but it sounds good to his deluded supporters. There isn't a quick fix to the current economic troubles. It's about time "The Great British Public" realised this.
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Steve on April 01, 2022, 11:46:09 AM
I'd prefer an honest politician but I wont hold my breathe. As to Keir's one off tax, he knows enough to be aware it wouldn't work but it sounds good to his deluded supporters. There isn't a quick fix to the current economic troubles. It's about time "The Great British Public" realised this.
So you agree he did actually have a policy then.  What he doesn't have is an answer to a year's time if the energy crunch continues.  Boris doesn't have an answer to what now? 
 
Meantime between the housing crunch and the energy crunch we are going to see a lot of people put into serious difficulties.

Keir's electoral problem is at heart he isn't a leader, he doesn't seize the moment, he doesn't take risks but right now he's at least trying to do the right things.

Hopefully Boris gets a severe drubbing in May, the Tories chuck him and his kleptocrats in the bin and get someone like Penny Mordaunt in number 10. 

Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Uncle Mort on April 01, 2022, 11:49:22 AM
Oh that classic lie saying 'they all lie'  No they don't. 

Very few lie outright, but they all use omission and misrepresentation. Only the naive think otherwise.

As to Keir's "policy" he knows it would never work but makes a great soundbite. He has no clue what needs doing.
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Steve on April 01, 2022, 12:23:52 PM
Oh that classic lie saying 'they all lie'  No they don't. 

Very few lie outright, but they all use omission and misrepresentation. Only the naive think otherwise.

As to Keir's "policy" he knows it would never work but makes a great soundbite. He has no clue what needs doing.

It would work for a time but one off taxing business is a dangerous road and it's counter intuitive to the cross party policy of reducing energy use so it's also hypocrisy.
 
I agree very few lie outright.  That's why Boris has to go, if he tells the truth it's mostly by accident.   And this fat contracts to mates who then make donations back to him or the party is just kleptocracy.  It literally will destroy the UK as we know it by more and more imitators if it goes on.
 
FWIW it's over 40 years since I voted Labour, Keir is unlikely to change that.  So much damage done by those that put Corbyn in position. 
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Nick on April 01, 2022, 02:15:30 PM
On his present form the best leader for Labour would be John Major!!
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: apc2010 on July 05, 2024, 10:59:42 PM
Time to dust off this thread … rubschin:   ….
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Uncle Mort on July 06, 2024, 07:35:13 AM
Day 2 ~ so far, so good

Mark my words though, I'll end in tears.
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Barman on July 06, 2024, 08:10:17 AM
Day 2 ~ so far, so good

Mark my words though, I'll end in tears.

Indeed... Lammy and Rayner...  noooo:
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Grumpmeister on July 06, 2024, 09:51:39 AM
Yvette Cooper as home secretary? She's a career politician with no actual work experience, certainly none relevant to her portfolio. Not to mention the fact that if you shone a torch in her ear you would see her eyes light up Banghead

Ed Milliband in charge of achieving net zero by 2030? I'd laugh if it wasn't so bloody horrific.  noooo:
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Steve on July 06, 2024, 10:32:08 AM
Yvette Cooper as home secretary? She's a career politician with no actual work experience, certainly none relevant to her portfolio. Not to mention the fact that if you shone a torch in her ear you would see her eyes light up Banghead

Ed Milliband in charge of achieving net zero by 2030? I'd laugh if it wasn't so bloody horrific.  noooo:
Cooper and Milliband have been very good these last years, excellent at holding the government to account in debates. 

But we have a government that's given too many promises it can't keep, some daft ones it can and is only supported by 1 in 3 voters.  Not just Uncle that'll end in tears.
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Nick on July 06, 2024, 12:45:37 PM
I am optimistic. And I can’t wait to see Farage’s Declarations of Interest  eveilgrin:
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Steve on July 06, 2024, 02:56:11 PM
I am optimistic. And I can’t wait to see Farage’s Declarations of Interest  eveilgrin:
Going to be interesting to see Farage v the rules of the house
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Nick on July 06, 2024, 04:25:13 PM
He will only show up to grandstand. The good folk of Clacton are going to be left unrepresented.
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Grumpmeister on July 01, 2025, 10:33:46 AM
Well this tweet didn't age well did it Kier..  facepalm:

https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1301257157011218441
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Barman on July 01, 2025, 12:21:16 PM
Well this tweet didn't age well did it Kier..  facepalm:

https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1301257157011218441

 lol: lol: lol:
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Grumpmeister on July 17, 2025, 04:22:17 PM
This tweet hasn't aged well either. 500 jobs gone at JLR  facepalm:

https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1920527419536027731
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Steve on July 17, 2025, 06:49:13 PM
This tweet hasn't aged well either. 500 jobs gone at JLR  facepalm:

https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1920527419536027731
;D
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Barman on July 18, 2025, 03:29:35 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/cvFNyWcN/521688686-1286328363160936-9040620731855233368-n.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cvFNyWcN)
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Steve on July 18, 2025, 04:59:42 PM
Looks like a photoshop of an Andy Byron at Coldplay image
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Barman on July 19, 2025, 07:36:23 AM
Looks like a photoshop of an Andy Byron at Coldplay image


Errrr, yes I think that is the point... ::)
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Grumpmeister on September 09, 2025, 07:09:18 PM
And the proud 'principled' human rights lawyer has now been referred to the ICC for crimes against humanity. And of course nobody saw this coming, continuing the forced relocation of a population begun by a previous Labour government and then handing the island over to a nation that had no realistic prior claim was never going to bite you in the arse was it Kier.

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/keir-starmer-chagos-island-international-court-crimes-against-humanity
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Steve on September 09, 2025, 07:14:04 PM
And the proud 'principled' human rights lawyer has now been referred to the ICC for crimes against humanity. And of course nobody saw this coming, continuing the forced relocation of a population begun by a previous Labour government and then handing the island over to a nation that had no realistic prior claim was never going to bite you in the arse was it Kier.

https://www.gbnews.com/politics/keir-starmer-chagos-island-international-court-crimes-against-humanity
Good, the way we've treated them is an outrage.
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Grumpmeister on September 28, 2025, 02:17:42 AM
I'm taking this with a pinch of salt till the Times releases the story but if it turns out to be true then Starmer's position just became untenable.  rubschin:

https://youtu.be/y4pzc3xq8TY?si=upoZO-E5EeWNgVTj
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Barman on September 28, 2025, 06:27:44 AM
I'm taking this with a pinch of salt till the Times releases the story but if it turns out to be true then Starmer's position just became untenable.  rubschin:

https://youtu.be/y4pzc3xq8TY?si=upoZO-E5EeWNgVTj

 shocked003 Sinister:
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Uncle Mort on September 28, 2025, 08:13:23 AM
GB News?

I spit on the screen.
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Barman on September 28, 2025, 09:58:37 AM
GB News?

I spit on the screen.


Oh dear...  noooo:
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Steve on September 28, 2025, 10:35:26 AM
GB News?

I spit on the screen.
Quite

To point out the obvious Starmer hasn't died yet so this field or the monies he later sold it for will be part of his estate.  His parents wanted a donkey sanctuary he made it possible but he would have been plain stupid to outright gift it to them at their  ages.  And he did it in 1996 years before he entered politics.

And yes Meister it is in the Times https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/keir-starmer-donkey-field-inheritance-tax-trust-jcczlgmsz

There are many things to criticise Starmer for - this aint one of them.
 
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Grumpmeister on September 28, 2025, 12:10:01 PM
Every so often youtube will randomly shove a GB news video on when I have it playing in the background it's not a channel I normally go out of my way to watch Mort.

Like I originally said, I was taking it with a pinch of salt until I could read the article in the Times.
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Barman on September 28, 2025, 02:12:02 PM
GB News is a mainstream media channel watched by millions in the UK. Its viewing numbers often exceed those of more established media.

Given the efforts of some to defund it with an advertising boycott it has been remarkably successful.

Saying you'd spit on it because you dislike the presenters or their views is quite insulting and immature IMHO...  noooo:
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Steve on September 28, 2025, 04:39:11 PM
GB News is a mainstream media channel watched by millions in the UK. Its viewing numbers often exceed those of more established media. . .
Arguable but far far more are watching the ITV or BBC news.  Its use of high profile right wing presenters for current affairs programmes is way outside the spirit of our broadcasting rules on even handedness.  And it does appear, especially on its website, to cherry pick stories to appeal to a certain gammonesque mindset

Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Barman on September 29, 2025, 06:03:25 AM
GB News is a mainstream media channel watched by millions in the UK. Its viewing numbers often exceed those of more established media. . .
Arguable but far far more are watching the ITV or BBC news.  Its use of high profile right wing presenters for current affairs programmes is way outside the spirit of our broadcasting rules on even handedness.  And it does appear, especially on its website, to cherry pick stories to appeal to a certain gammonesque mindset

GB News overtakes BBC for the first time (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/08/01/gb-news-overtakes-bbc-for-the-first-time/)

Quote from: The Telegraph
GB News has overtaken the BBC as Britain’s most watched news channel for the first time.

New figures from official ratings agency Barb show GB News beat both BBC News and Sky News during key time slots in July, in a major coup for the start-up broadcaster just after its fourth birthday.

The latest data show GB News pulled in an average audience of 80,600 across each day in July. That was ahead of BBC News on 78,700 and 67,000 for Sky News.
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Uncle Mort on September 29, 2025, 08:09:41 AM
Crikey! Politics (and religion) shouldn't be discussed on forums  noooo:

Anyway:

While GB News led in average daily viewership in these slots, Press Gazette notes that the BBC News Channel still had more than twice GB News’ total weekly reach in July, with Sky News also ahead in reach. This indicates that while GB News engages viewers for longer periods, it currently attracts fewer unique viewers overall. BARB’s July figures are not yet consolidated, meaning BBC figures will likely rise once iPlayer data is included.

As far as I'm concerned GB News is the modern equivalent of The Daily Mail newspaper. It may be popular but you wouldn't take anything it says at face value.
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Barman on September 29, 2025, 08:27:21 AM
Crikey! Politics (and religion) shouldn't be discussed on forums  noooo:

Anyway:

While GB News led in average daily viewership in these slots, Press Gazette notes that the BBC News Channel still had more than twice GB News’ total weekly reach in July, with Sky News also ahead in reach. This indicates that while GB News engages viewers for longer periods, it currently attracts fewer unique viewers overall. BARB’s July figures are not yet consolidated, meaning BBC figures will likely rise once iPlayer data is included.

As far as I'm concerned GB News is the modern equivalent of The Daily Mail newspaper. It may be popular but you wouldn't take anything it says at face value.


Of course, there are millions of people in the country that would say exactly the same about The BBC, Guardian, etc. ::)
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Steve on September 29, 2025, 10:14:02 AM
GB News is a mainstream media channel watched by millions in the UK. Its viewing numbers often exceed those of more established media. . .
Arguable but far far more are watching the ITV or BBC news.  Its use of high profile right wing presenters for current affairs programmes is way outside the spirit of our broadcasting rules on even handedness.  And it does appear, especially on its website, to cherry pick stories to appeal to a certain gammonesque mindset

GB News overtakes BBC for the first time (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/08/01/gb-news-overtakes-bbc-for-the-first-time/)

Quote from: The Telegraph
GB News has overtaken the BBC as Britain’s most watched news channel for the first time.

New figures from official ratings agency Barb show GB News beat both BBC News and Sky News during key time slots in July, in a major coup for the start-up broadcaster just after its fourth birthday.

The latest data show GB News pulled in an average audience of 80,600 across each day in July. That was ahead of BBC News on 78,700 and 67,000 for Sky News.
All that says is the sensible audience was split and easily outnumbered GB News with of course most of the sensible news viewers watching BBC News at 6 and 10 which get 3 million plus or ITV Evening news with 2.6 million https://www.barb.co.uk/viewing-data/most-viewed-programmes/ 

Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Barman on September 29, 2025, 10:20:32 AM
GB News is a mainstream media channel watched by millions in the UK. Its viewing numbers often exceed those of more established media. . .
Arguable but far far more are watching the ITV or BBC news.  Its use of high profile right wing presenters for current affairs programmes is way outside the spirit of our broadcasting rules on even handedness.  And it does appear, especially on its website, to cherry pick stories to appeal to a certain gammonesque mindset

GB News overtakes BBC for the first time (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/08/01/gb-news-overtakes-bbc-for-the-first-time/)

Quote from: The Telegraph
GB News has overtaken the BBC as Britain’s most watched news channel for the first time.

New figures from official ratings agency Barb show GB News beat both BBC News and Sky News during key time slots in July, in a major coup for the start-up broadcaster just after its fourth birthday.

The latest data show GB News pulled in an average audience of 80,600 across each day in July. That was ahead of BBC News on 78,700 and 67,000 for Sky News.
All that says is the sensible audience was split and easily outnumbered GB News with of course most of the sensible news viewers watching BBC News at 6 and 10 which get 3 million plus or ITV Evening news with 2.6 million https://www.barb.co.uk/viewing-data/most-viewed-programmes/

You can believe that if you wish...

The fact is that a station that only started in 2021 is posing a serious challenge to the established channels with millions of people watching and listening every day.

But of course you can continue to believe that everybody that agrees with your political views and watches the BBC are 'sensible' while everybody that chooses not to is morally inferior... ::)
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Steve on September 29, 2025, 11:26:00 AM
Millions clearly are not watching it
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Barman on September 29, 2025, 11:42:19 AM
Millions clearly are not watching it

And millions no longer watch the BBC, is that your point...? ::)

Quote
In August 2023, GB News had a total identified monthly audience (including sharing and streaming) of 2,786,000, with a nearly 1 minute average daily viewing according to BARB.
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Steve on September 29, 2025, 01:11:10 PM
3 million+ watch the BBC news every night

That 2.8 million in a month for GB news is the number of day watches by an average of ~100k people.

BIG difference
Title: Re: Keir Starmer
Post by: Barman on September 29, 2025, 01:27:45 PM
3 million+ watch the BBC news every night

That 2.8 million in a month for GB news is the number of day watches by an average of ~100k people.

BIG difference

Not really, the BBC started in 1936 didn't it? Most people grew up with it and knew nothing else...

GB news has only been going for a few years, people are rapidly waking up to the new media...

My earlier post...

Quote
The latest data show GB News pulled in an average audience of 80,600 across each day in July. That was ahead of BBC News on 78,700 and 67,000 for Sky News.