Well Nick takes pills ..they seem to work .......... rubschin:
oops ......mis-read OP............... redface:
lol: lol: lol:
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Steve on September 02, 2019, 05:38:22 PM
Boris has said he doesn't want a General Election (maybe he's seen the rumours about a poll today poll that says he'd lose 6 seats)
So get your postal vote application in now then
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Uncle Mort on September 02, 2019, 05:44:19 PM
Boris has drawn a line in the sand. All the naysayers will force him to call an election.
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Steve on September 02, 2019, 10:00:14 PM
Looks like his whips told him he's going to lose the vote and his legal people that he'd lose that legal case in Edinburgh unless he swore that affidavit that risked him spending a long time in jail
whatever I think of Brexit, the country deserves something better as PM than that self serving shit Boris, or that even worse Corbyn or that half baked probably very nice but well out of her depth Swinson or that care not a jot for England Blackford or gobby Green or . . . . or . . . We're sodding doomed aren't we?
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Darwins Selection on September 03, 2019, 09:45:46 AM
Looks like his whips told him he's going to lose the vote and his legal people that he'd lose that legal case in Edinburgh unless he swore that affidavit that risked him spending a long time in jail
whatever I think of Brexit, the country deserves something better as PM than that self serving shit Boris, or that even worse Corbyn or that half baked probably very nice but well out of her depth Swinson or that care not a jot for England Blackford or gobby Green or . . . . or . . . We're sodding doomed aren't we?
All because that idiot Cameron held a plebiscite asking the plebs what they wanted to do and they foolishly chose what the political elite didn't want.
Almost as stupid as it would be to hold a referendum on capital punishment and expect the ignorant masses to vote against it.
Don't ask them, tell them. That's what democracy is all about.
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Barman on September 03, 2019, 10:28:58 AM
Looks like his whips told him he's going to lose the vote and his legal people that he'd lose that legal case in Edinburgh unless he swore that affidavit that risked him spending a long time in jail
whatever I think of Brexit, the country deserves something better as PM than that self serving shit Boris, or that even worse Corbyn or that half baked probably very nice but well out of her depth Swinson or that care not a jot for England Blackford or gobby Green or . . . . or . . . We're sodding doomed aren't we?
All because that idiot Cameron held a plebiscite asking the plebs what they wanted to do and they foolishly chose what the political elite didn't want.
Almost as stupid as it would be to hold a referendum on capital punishment and expect the ignorant masses to vote against it.
Don't ask them, tell them. That's what democracy is all about.
drumroll:
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Steve on September 03, 2019, 12:41:55 PM
Looks like his whips told him he's going to lose the vote and his legal people that he'd lose that legal case in Edinburgh unless he swore that affidavit that risked him spending a long time in jail
whatever I think of Brexit, the country deserves something better as PM than that self serving shit Boris, or that even worse Corbyn or that half baked probably very nice but well out of her depth Swinson or that care not a jot for England Blackford or gobby Green or . . . . or . . . We're sodding doomed aren't we?
All because that idiot Cameron held a plebiscite asking the plebs what they wanted to do and they foolishly chose what the political elite didn't want.
Almost as stupid as it would be to hold a referendum on capital punishment and expect the ignorant masses to vote against it.
Don't ask them, tell them. That's what democracy is all about.
So it's nothing to do with Boris making promises he couldn't honour?
I think it is
Quote from: Boris and his chums 2016
"After we Vote Leave, British businesses will trade freely with the EU." (http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/briefing_trade.html)
Quote from: Boris and his chums 2017
"a Stronger Britain and a Prosperous Future " (https://www.conservatives.com/manifestol)
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Barman on September 05, 2019, 03:35:47 PM
Looks like his whips told him he's going to lose the vote and his legal people that he'd lose that legal case in Edinburgh unless he swore that affidavit that risked him spending a long time in jail
whatever I think of Brexit, the country deserves something better as PM than that self serving shit Boris, or that even worse Corbyn or that half baked probably very nice but well out of her depth Swinson or that care not a jot for England Blackford or gobby Green or . . . . or . . . We're sodding doomed aren't we?
All because that idiot Cameron held a plebiscite asking the plebs what they wanted to do and they foolishly chose what the political elite didn't want.
Almost as stupid as it would be to hold a referendum on capital punishment and expect the ignorant masses to vote against it.
Don't ask them, tell them. That's what democracy is all about.
So it's nothing to do with Boris making promises he couldn't honour?
I think it is
Quote from: Boris and his chums 2016
"After we Vote Leave, British businesses will trade freely with the EU." (http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/briefing_trade.html)
Quote from: Boris and his chums 2017
"a Stronger Britain and a Prosperous Future " (https://www.conservatives.com/manifestol)
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Steve on September 05, 2019, 10:14:52 PM
Do you really need the difference between leaving the Single Market and no deal Brexit explained to you?
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Barman on September 06, 2019, 04:19:31 AM
Do you really need the difference between leaving the Single Market and no deal Brexit explained to you?
No I understand completely...
'No Deal' is a post Referendum fabrication by Remoaners to make leaving the EU look scary.
While 'Leaving the single market' is what Remainers and Leavers said would happen if we voted Leave.
Although while Remoaners keep on about it, it isn't even 'no deal' any more - there are deals in place already to facilitate goods transfer, let aeroplanes fly, etc.
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Steve on September 06, 2019, 08:21:24 AM
happy001 ^
Here's a clue: Canada, Korea etc aren't in the single market but have free trade deals with the EU. You know like the Leave Leaders and their drones promised us we'd have
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Steve on September 06, 2019, 08:32:09 AM
Please leave my town Boris (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-morley-yorkshire-visit-please-leave-my-town-brexit-a9093856.html?amp)
lol: lol: lol:
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Barman on September 06, 2019, 02:15:43 PM
Here's a clue: Canada, Korea etc aren't in the single market but have free trade deals with the EU. You know like the Leave Leaders and their drones promised us we'd have
And that has what to do with the price of eggs or the difference between No Deal and leaving the single market...? Shrugs:
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Steve on September 06, 2019, 02:26:04 PM
Here's a clue: Canada, Korea etc aren't in the single market but have free trade deals with the EU. You know like the Leave Leaders and their drones promised us we'd have
And that has what to do with the price of eggs or the difference between No Deal and leaving the single market...? Shrugs:
Your equating 'leaving the single market' with 'no deal'
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Barman on September 06, 2019, 02:32:17 PM
Here's a clue: Canada, Korea etc aren't in the single market but have free trade deals with the EU. You know like the Leave Leaders and their drones promised us we'd have
And that has what to do with the price of eggs or the difference between No Deal and leaving the single market...? Shrugs:
Your equating 'leaving the single market' with 'no deal'
Oh... right...
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: apc2010 on October 24, 2019, 04:27:21 PM
12th DEC......... rubschin:
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Nick on October 24, 2019, 04:32:38 PM
Going to be a fucking nightmare. Expect trouble
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Grumpmeister on October 24, 2019, 05:20:30 PM
Given that the remainers are already talking about lowering the voting age to 16 and have said they also have other plans I think Hell will be an understatement
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Grumpmeister on October 29, 2019, 12:42:54 AM
Corbyn you fucking coward!! You know fine well that you screwed over Labour heartland constituencies that voted to leave by jumping on the remain bandwagon after dithering along in the hopes you could scam your way into No. 10 despite promising to respect the result of the referendum, and now you can see that the consequences will at least decimate the number of Labour MP's come the next election. THAT is the only reason you keep blocking attempts to hold one.
You sit there all high and mighty claiming that Boris can't be trusted and maybe he can, maybe he can't but let's drop the holier than thou bullshit Jeremy........YOU CERTAINLY CAN NOT BE TRUSTED!!!
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Barman on October 29, 2019, 06:18:15 AM
Corbyn you fucking coward!! You know fine well that you screwed over Labour heartland constituencies that voted to leave by jumping on the remain bandwagon after dithering along in the hopes you could scam your way into No. 10 despite promising to respect the result of the referendum, and now you can see that the consequences will at least decimate the number of Labour MP's come the next election. THAT is the only reason you keep blocking attempts to hold one.
You sit there all high and mighty claiming that Boris can't be trusted and maybe he can, maybe he can't but let's drop the holier than thou bullshit Jeremy........YOU CERTAINLY CAN NOT BE TRUSTED!!!
happ096
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Steve on October 29, 2019, 10:46:47 AM
Corbyn you fucking coward!! You know fine well that you screwed over Labour heartland constituencies that voted to leave by jumping on the remain bandwagon after dithering along in the hopes you could scam your way into No. 10 despite promising to respect the result of the referendum, and now you can see that the consequences will at least decimate the number of Labour MP's come the next election. THAT is the only reason you keep blocking attempts to hold one.
You sit there all high and mighty claiming that Boris can't be trusted and maybe he can, maybe he can't but let's drop the holier than thou bullshit Jeremy........YOU CERTAINLY CAN NOT BE TRUSTED!!!
Of course he can't be trusted. He's a dyed in the wool leaver who pretended to be a ramainer so he could sabotage their campaign then rapidly became a leaver again and now has become a whateverer (will give him a chance at number 10)
It takes a once in a lifetime git to make Boris look not such a shit but Corbyn does it
PS Actual and intending Labour voters are overwhelmingly Remainers/soft Brexiters much to Corbyn's annoyance https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/nkb7moq5w9/TheTimes_191025_VI_Trackers_w.pdf see page 5
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Grumpmeister on October 29, 2019, 05:36:10 PM
Absolutely fucking disgusting, I'll only allow you to have an election if you agree to stack the deck in my favour because it's the only way I have a snowball in Hell's chance of not obliterating Labour. How can you justify demanding that EU nationals get to vote in the general election of a country that has already voted to leave said establishment. And as for lowering the voting age to 16? What life experience are they expected to have that will help them make informed choices? Posting in social media echo chambers doesn't make for an educated basis for knowing what the consequences of their vote will entail. At least by 18 you have had the chance to see a little of the world, in my case I'd made multiple trips to Romania working as a volunteer in the orphanages there following the fall of Caucescu which allowed me to see the true cost of a socialist/communist regime.
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Steve on October 30, 2019, 01:04:49 AM
So seems it's on for Dec 12th
Popcorn:
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Steve on November 01, 2019, 01:10:21 PM
So Nigel has said "it's no-deal or it's no deal (with Boris)"
rubschin: just when it seemed Corbers had holed his chances below the water line this could change that back again
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50261647
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Nick on December 12, 2019, 02:31:24 PM
Been to vote. Freezing sleet but still a long queue out of the Polling Station door. Same story at 2 others I drove past. Lots of young people voting too
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Barman on December 12, 2019, 02:32:35 PM
Been to vote. Freezing sleet but still a long queue out of the Polling Station door. Same story at 2 others I drove past. Lots of young people voting too
Excellent! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Miss Demeanour on December 12, 2019, 03:17:15 PM
7am this morning on my way to work
Unfortunately I live in the Boris's constituency .....but this fella appealled as one of my possible candidates
If this is an invasion it's a bloody slow one... rubschin:
cloud9:
One step closer to a critical mass of gubberation.... scared2:
Well at least we have an idea of where the staging area is... rubschin:
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Grumpmeister on December 12, 2019, 06:03:59 PM
Dear Labour/Momentum if you are going to have an activist stand just inside the entrance to the polling station asking people who they are going to vote for can you at least make sure that next time they can put up a decent argument to any anti-labour arguments they will encounter (yes I know that there are a lot of them but even just being able to have counter arguments against the core ones would be a start). It felt so much like shooting a paralysed fish in a barrel I actually felt sorry for them... noooo:
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Barman on December 12, 2019, 06:12:12 PM
Dear Labour/Momentum if you are going to have an activist stand just inside the entrance to the polling station asking people who they are going to vote for can you at least make sure that next time they can put up a decent argument to any anti-labour arguments they will encounter (yes I know that there are a lot of them but even just being able to have counter arguments against the core ones would be a start). It felt so much like shooting a paralysed fish in a barrel I actually felt sorry for them... noooo:
noooo:
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: apc2010 on December 12, 2019, 06:24:29 PM
Dear Labour/Momentum if you are going to have an activist stand just inside the entrance to the polling station asking people who they are going to vote for can you at least make sure that next time they can put up a decent argument to any anti-labour arguments they will encounter (yes I know that there are a lot of them but even just being able to have counter arguments against the core ones would be a start). It felt so much like shooting a paralysed fish in a barrel I actually felt sorry for them... noooo:
Thumbs:
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Barman on December 12, 2019, 07:28:56 PM
Waiting up for the results or check in the morning...? rubschin:
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Nick on December 12, 2019, 07:31:41 PM
Staying up and hoping for some Portillo moments eveilgrin: eveilgrin: eveilgrin:
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Steve on December 12, 2019, 07:39:41 PM
Please can I have Sally Ann Hart the stupid cow the Tories parachuted in to replace Amber Rudd in Hastings and promptly discovered she has an unfortunate history of nasty comments about the disabled and others
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Barman on December 12, 2019, 07:52:37 PM
Bit late for me... rubschin:
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: apc2010 on December 12, 2019, 07:56:52 PM
The Blyth Valley result is a big moment. This is the first time the area has had a Tory MP and not a Labour one.
and BM up past 9 pm .... rubschin:
IMHO what we appear to be seeing tonight is that Leave supporters can stomach Boris's lies more than Remain supporters could stomach Corbyn's Marxism. And of course the perennial inability of any established remain politicians to organise a piss up in a brewery
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Grumpmeister on December 13, 2019, 12:15:29 AM
The Blyth Valley result is a big moment. This is the first time the area has had a Tory MP and not a Labour one.
and BM up past 9 pm .... rubschin:
All we need now is for you to buy a round and it's the trifecta... rubschin:
Can't speak Italien ..... noooo:
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: apc2010 on December 13, 2019, 12:22:06 AM
Best post of the night ..........
"Please can I have my internet reconnected please " .......... lol: lol:
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Grumpmeister on December 13, 2019, 12:25:29 AM
Out of curiosity I've just had a look at Anna Soubry's twitter page. Dear God, the replies to that pinned tweet she has at the top... happy002
https://twitter.com/Anna_Soubry
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Grumpmeister on December 13, 2019, 04:17:20 AM
Tried looking at the twitter feeds for Corbyn, Abbot, Jess Phillips and Sadiq Khan. While there have been supportive messages, the rest could only be described as brutal and in a lot of cases bloody hysterical.
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Barman on December 13, 2019, 05:48:44 AM
YES! cloud9:
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: apc2010 on December 13, 2019, 06:47:33 AM
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Steve on December 13, 2019, 09:44:58 AM
Sun still rose this morning, probably will again tomorrow. Best bits for me about this election
- at least we avoided the horror of Corbyn - DUP suffered serious reverses
err that's it. Whatever the make up of the house we are still a very polarised country that could easily become a broken one. So I hope Boris can and does honour his many promises, he's certainly got no excuses now
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Grumpmeister on December 15, 2019, 09:36:21 AM
Out of curiosity (and the suspicion that the replies would be good for a laugh) I've been keeping half an eye on Corbyn's, Abbot's etc twitter feeds post election. Now I'd like to think that this was just a mahoosive coincidence but Jezza has managed to tweet the English translation of one of the more infamous IRA slogans that used to be daubed on walls around Ireland. Given his ties to members in the past (attending rallies, paying the bail of one and getting a convicted bomb maker to the top of the council house list as well as a job to name but a few examples) I find it hard to believe that he wasn't aware of how bad an idea it would be to tweet 'Our day will come' and found a better alternative instead. noooo:
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Steve on December 15, 2019, 10:02:41 AM
I detest Corbyn but even I won't blame him for that. That's been a universally used phrase long before the Troubles
The DM would probably have slagged him off for using the word 'one' saying it was a reference to Hitler's slogans
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Grumpmeister on December 15, 2019, 02:57:17 PM
I detest Corbyn but even I won't blame him for that. That's been a universally used phrase long before the Troubles
The DM would probably have slagged him off for using the word 'one' saying it was a reference to Hitler's slogans
True but you would think that he'd be aware enough to realise that he is once again declaring open season on himself. He may be the outgoing opposition leader but at the moment he's still in charge of Labour, why give even more ammunition to hit him with. Believe it or not this didn't come from the Mail but from replies to the tweet in question from members of the public. Looking back at previous leaders I'm starting to wonder if there is some arcane ritual when you get put in charge of the Labour party that removes your sense of putting your foot in your mouth.
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Steve on December 15, 2019, 03:19:25 PM
I detest Corbyn but even I won't blame him for that. That's been a universally used phrase long before the Troubles
The DM would probably have slagged him off for using the word 'one' saying it was a reference to Hitler's slogans
True but you would think that he'd be aware enough to realise that he is once again declaring open season on himself. He may be the outgoing opposition leader but at the moment he's still in charge of Labour, why give even more ammunition to hit him with. Believe it or not this didn't come from the Mail but from replies to the tweet in question from members of the public. Looking back at previous leaders I'm starting to wonder if there is some arcane ritual when you get put in charge of the Labour party that removes your sense of putting your foot in your mouth.
Frankly he should just slink away and see if there's vacancies to be Santa Claus at the Pound Shop
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Barman on December 15, 2019, 03:50:48 PM
If you got to Labour List you can vote for the next leader and deputy! eveilgrin:
Dianne Fatbot and David Lammy have just got my votes! happy001
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Grumpmeister on December 15, 2019, 04:02:09 PM
If you got to Labour List you can vote for the next leader and deputy! eveilgrin:
Dianne Fatbot and David Lammy have just got my votes! happy001
Isn't that the same approach that ended up with us saddled with Comrade Jeremy as leader? noooo:
It is the same approach that made them un-electable... ;)
Title: Re: The Election Thread
Post by: Steve on December 15, 2019, 10:16:37 PM
This is interesting imho https://lordashcroftpolls.com/2019/12/how-britain-voted-and-why-my-2019-general-election-post-vote-poll/
The first proper analysis of why people voted as they did. Overall Brexit outcome was seen as less important than the motives of the party voted for and the ability to run the economy. But for Tory voters Brexit was the top issue