I've met my Tory MP and exchanged emails with him. He cares
I've never met my MP, the right Honorable member for Maidenhead but all the evidence is that she certainly doesn't care... noooo:
You want her to fly to Cyprus to deliver a personal "fuck off you ex-pats that pay bugger all UK tax, look at the trouble you've caused me in negotiations" message?
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Steve on June 16, 2019, 09:57:42 AM
I've met my Tory MP and exchanged emails with him. He cares
I've never met my MP, the right Honorable member for Maidenhead but all the evidence is that she certainly doesn't care... noooo:
You want her to fly to Cyprus to deliver a personal "fuck off you ex-pats that pay bugger all UK tax, look at the trouble you've caused me in negotiations" message?
Yes Steve, all the 17.4 million were expats... ::)
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Steve on June 16, 2019, 10:15:30 AM
I've met my Tory MP and exchanged emails with him. He cares
I've never met my MP, the right Honorable member for Maidenhead but all the evidence is that she certainly doesn't care... noooo:
You want her to fly to Cyprus to deliver a personal "fuck off you ex-pats that pay bugger all UK tax, look at the trouble you've caused me in negotiations" message?
Yes Steve, all the 17.4 million were expats... ::)
In which parallel universe didn't she trigger Article 50?
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Barman on June 16, 2019, 10:36:19 AM
I've met my Tory MP and exchanged emails with him. He cares
I've never met my MP, the right Honorable member for Maidenhead but all the evidence is that she certainly doesn't care... noooo:
You want her to fly to Cyprus to deliver a personal "fuck off you ex-pats that pay bugger all UK tax, look at the trouble you've caused me in negotiations" message?
Yes Steve, all the 17.4 million were expats... ::)
In which parallel universe didn't she trigger Article 50?
In which parallel universe did she honour the referendum vote after three years...?
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Steve on June 16, 2019, 11:27:55 AM
I've met my Tory MP and exchanged emails with him. He cares
I've never met my MP, the right Honorable member for Maidenhead but all the evidence is that she certainly doesn't care... noooo:
You want her to fly to Cyprus to deliver a personal "fuck off you ex-pats that pay bugger all UK tax, look at the trouble you've caused me in negotiations" message?
Yes Steve, all the 17.4 million were expats... ::)
In which parallel universe didn't she trigger Article 50?
In which parallel universe did she honour the referendum vote after three years...?
She honoured it, it was Boris and the ERG that voted her deal down forcing the extension
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Barman on June 16, 2019, 12:04:01 PM
I've met my Tory MP and exchanged emails with him. He cares
I've never met my MP, the right Honorable member for Maidenhead but all the evidence is that she certainly doesn't care... noooo:
You want her to fly to Cyprus to deliver a personal "fuck off you ex-pats that pay bugger all UK tax, look at the trouble you've caused me in negotiations" message?
Yes Steve, all the 17.4 million were expats... ::)
In which parallel universe didn't she trigger Article 50?
In which parallel universe did she honour the referendum vote after three years...?
She honoured it, it was Boris and the ERG that voted her deal down forcing the extension
Poppycock! lol:
Everybody (both sides) agreed that 'leave' would mean leaving the institutions of the EU...
May has singularly failed to do so... Instead, three years on we have a 'Withdrawal Agreement' which is BRINO...
Three years on she has completely failed to remove us from the institutions of the EU and the WA would serve to tie us to them for the foreseeable future... ::)
She has in no way whatsoever honoured the referendum vote... noooo:
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Steve on June 16, 2019, 12:15:01 PM
I've met my Tory MP and exchanged emails with him. He cares
I've never met my MP, the right Honorable member for Maidenhead but all the evidence is that she certainly doesn't care... noooo:
You want her to fly to Cyprus to deliver a personal "fuck off you ex-pats that pay bugger all UK tax, look at the trouble you've caused me in negotiations" message?
Yes Steve, all the 17.4 million were expats... ::)
In which parallel universe didn't she trigger Article 50?
In which parallel universe did she honour the referendum vote after three years...?
She honoured it, it was Boris and the ERG that voted her deal down forcing the extension
Poppycock! lol:
Everybody (both sides) agreed that 'leave' would mean leaving the institutions of the EU...
May has singularly failed to do so... Instead, three years on we have a 'Withdrawal Agreement' which is BRINO...
Three years on she has completely failed to remove us from the institutions of the EU and the WA would serve to tie us to them for the foreseeable future... ::)
She has in no way whatsoever honoured the referendum vote... noooo:
So your ballot form said 'leave with a no deal brexit' did it?
Mine didn't
It was always Leave with unstated detail TBD. But the honest start point for such should have been the Vote Leave promises, you know like 'After we Vote Leave, British businesses will trade freely with the EU' (http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/briefing_trade.html)
Now you try delivering that without accepting some of the EU product rules and decision making on such
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Barman on June 16, 2019, 12:50:48 PM
I've met my Tory MP and exchanged emails with him. He cares
I've never met my MP, the right Honorable member for Maidenhead but all the evidence is that she certainly doesn't care... noooo:
You want her to fly to Cyprus to deliver a personal "fuck off you ex-pats that pay bugger all UK tax, look at the trouble you've caused me in negotiations" message?
Yes Steve, all the 17.4 million were expats... ::)
In which parallel universe didn't she trigger Article 50?
In which parallel universe did she honour the referendum vote after three years...?
She honoured it, it was Boris and the ERG that voted her deal down forcing the extension
Poppycock! lol:
Everybody (both sides) agreed that 'leave' would mean leaving the institutions of the EU...
May has singularly failed to do so... Instead, three years on we have a 'Withdrawal Agreement' which is BRINO...
Three years on she has completely failed to remove us from the institutions of the EU and the WA would serve to tie us to them for the foreseeable future... ::)
She has in no way whatsoever honoured the referendum vote... noooo:
So your ballot form said 'leave with a no deal brexit' did it?
Mine didn't
It was always Leave with unstated detail TBD. But the honest start point for such should have been the Vote Leave promises, you know like 'After we Vote Leave, British businesses will trade freely with the EU' (http://www.voteleavetakecontrol.org/briefing_trade.html)
Now you try delivering that without accepting some of the EU product rules and decision making on such
Nope. As you well know, it said 'Leave' or 'Remain', it really is that simple...
And what were we told that 'Leave' would involve...?
Yarp. Leaving the EU...
And before you criticise leave promises, perhaps you should look at the remain rhetoric, including financial Armageddon 'in the immediate aftermath of a leave vote'...?
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Steve on June 16, 2019, 12:59:27 PM
So what Vote Leave put in writing with Boris on the campaign committee that wrote it counts for eff all then?
And of course there's the official Vote Leave leaflet sent to every household in the UK (but not Cyprus) that talked of a Swiss style future
but hey ho according to you it was unambiguous no deal leave.
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Uncle Mort on June 16, 2019, 01:01:16 PM
I've met my Tory MP and exchanged emails with him. He cares
You really believe that he personally replies to all emails sent to him? He has 'people' for that.
Oh you've read them and know his office in detail do you?
Ducking the question as usual.
It was reported in 2014 some MPs received 100+ emails per day and given the growth in email usage it's likely your MP hasn't enough time in the day to reply to every email personally.
As far as I'm aware from everything I've read, seen or heard a MP has staff. I doubt your MP is any different.
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Steve on June 16, 2019, 01:05:52 PM
Well we'll never know will we
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Barman on June 16, 2019, 01:33:36 PM
So what Vote Leave put in writing with Boris on the campaign committee that wrote it counts for eff all then?
And of course there's the official Vote Leave leaflet sent to every household in the UK (but not Cyprus) that talked of a Swiss style future
but hey ho according to you it was unambiguous no deal leave.
It carries as much weight as the Remain campaign Steve...
I've mentioned before, if you take everything every MP (or political campaigner) says as fact you must be very naive indeed...
Both sides made their case (the government also sent a Remain leaflet to every household if you remember), and despite promises of financial Armageddon (among other things) thick, racist, little Englanders like myself still voted to leave...
...and the promise to 'implement what you decide' has still not been honoured...
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Steve on June 16, 2019, 01:43:29 PM
Ah but that government was superceded by the 2017 government that promised first and foremost to make us stronger and more prosperous
As the courts have ruled, the result is only advisory otherwise they would have overthrown the result for the illegal way it was obtained.
So now you have an advisory result that uber leavers say means a no deal Brexit that awkwardly is incompatible with the main promise this government was elected on. Worse the inevitable next PM is one that thinks any promise is never ever binding
It's a mess, be careful he doesn't sell you ex-pats down the river
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Barman on June 16, 2019, 01:48:49 PM
Ah but that government was superceded by the 2017 government that promised first and foremost to make us stronger and more prosperous
As the courts have ruled, the result is only advisory otherwise they would have overthrown the result for the illegal way it was obtained.
So now you have an advisory result that uber leavers say means a no deal Brexit that awkwardly is incompatible with the main promise this government was elected on. Worse the inevitable next PM is one that thinks any promise is never ever binding
It's a mess, be careful he doesn't sell you ex-pats down the river
They promised to respect the result....
They all voted for Article 50...
They all stood in the last election promising to respect the result...
They haven't honoured the result and now many of them want to openly overturn it or kick the can down the road. That isn't democracy.
Be careful what you wish for.
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Uncle Mort on June 16, 2019, 02:02:20 PM
As the courts have ruled, the result is only advisory...
In the same House of Lords report that said referenda were not legally binding, the committee concluded that “it would be difficult for Parliament to ignore a decisive expression of public opinion”.
Obviously not so.
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Steve on June 16, 2019, 03:13:57 PM
But as Farage himself said: a 52:48 result is not decisive
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Barman on June 16, 2019, 03:17:12 PM
But as Farage himself said: a 52:48 result is not decisive
So if it had gone the other way, 52 Remain and 48 Leave...
You'd have been happy if the government said, "Never mind, we're going to leave anyway, it was only advisory"...? lol:
No and I'd also have supported a rerun if Remain had won using the sort of record breaking illegal deeds we saw Vote Leave and Farage's outfit use
Anyway it seems you have forgotten again that this government has triggered article 50. Their problem is they also made other promises and their own analyses show they're all incompatible with the no deal leave the ERG see as the only true Leave
It's a mess and I just can't see Boris as the man to lead us out of it, more the opposite
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Barman on June 16, 2019, 03:28:20 PM
But as Farage himself said: a 52:48 result is not decisive
So if it had gone the other way, 52 Remain and 48 Leave...
You'd have been happy if the government said, "Never mind, we're going to leave anyway, it was only advisory"...? lol:
No and I'd also have supported a rerun if Remain had won using the sort of record breaking illegal deeds we saw Vote Leave and Farage's outfit use
Anyway it seems you have forgotten again that this government has triggered article 50. Their problem is they also made other promises and their own analyses show they're all incompatible with the no deal leave the ERG see as the only true Leave
It's a mess and I just can't see Boris as the man to lead us out of it, more the opposite
To which 'record breaking illegal deeds ' do you refer...? ::)
And yes, they did trigger Article 50 - they could hardly have delayed it any longer could they...?
But then they did everything in their power to stop Brexit. And Lo! Treason has backed Rory (arch remainer) and promised to do everything she can to stop a WTO Brexit... What was her agenda over the past three years do you think...?
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Steve on June 16, 2019, 03:49:00 PM
No they have not done everything in their power to delay Brexit
Had that been their mindset they would have sacked Boris when he poisoned negotiations and more importanly gone to the Electoral Commission immediately after the EC revealed the record breaking illegal spending and asked the bleeding obvious question: "Can we still trust the 2016 result to be a fair reflection of the electorate's will?"
But they didn't ask did they. And we all know why, they feared the answer would be "no". And that would had the obvious consequence of necessitating a further and binding referendum (probably 3 way: deal, no deal and remain)
It's been a leave at all costs government, you just don't like that there are more varieties of leaving than Heinz have lines and like many you seemingly demand that your preferred one is 'the only true Brexit'. Well it isn't
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Barman on June 16, 2019, 03:57:30 PM
No they have not done everything in their power to delay Brexit
Had that been their mindset they would have sacked Boris when he poisoned negotiations and more importanly gone to the Electoral Commission immediately after the EC revealed the record breaking illegal spending and asked the bleeding obvious question: "Can we still trust the 2016 result to be a fair reflection of the electorate's will?"
But they didn't ask did they. And we all know why, they feared the answer would be "no". And that would had the obvious consequence of necessitating a further and binding referendum (probably 3 way: deal, no deal and remain)
It's been a leave at all costs government, you just don't like that there are more varieties of leaving than Heinz have lines and like many you seemingly demand that your preferred one is 'the only true Brexit'. Well it isn't
Leave at all costs! happy001
Is that why Treason is backing Rory and has promised to block no deal WTO Brexit...? So keen is she to 'leave at all costs' she is backing the candidate that, errrrr... doesn't want to leave...? Shrugs:
Leave is leave... it isn't complex... And we will leave, no matter how hard the remainers complain and insult the Brexiteers, this simply isn't a genie that can be put back in the bottle... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Steve on June 16, 2019, 05:54:59 PM
Of course we'll probably leave and just as probably it will not be a good outcome - well for those who live in the UK anyway
The best chance of not leaving is Boris becomes PM and soon
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Nick on June 16, 2019, 06:28:31 PM
When do I get to vote?
Oh.............
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Barman on June 16, 2019, 06:35:11 PM
Jeremy Hunt is quoted as saying "is about the personality of the prime minister".
This from a man who seems to have had his personality removed at birth. noooo:
lol: lol: lol:
I see that Boris has thrown down the glove of Brexit today! :thumbsup:
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Uncle Mort on June 25, 2019, 05:18:21 PM
Unfortunately whoever becomes Prime Minister has to deliver a Brexit that satisfies all parties else they'll be toast. Better to wait until its all over then go for PM.
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Barman on June 25, 2019, 05:35:43 PM
Unfortunately whoever becomes Prime Minister has to deliver a Brexit that satisfies all parties else they'll be toast. Better to wait until its all over then go for PM.
Deliver Brexit or B toast... lol:
Sooner or later the Remainers will realise that they've lost...
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Grumpmeister on June 27, 2019, 11:07:59 PM
I know that this is supposed to be a serious room but I couldn't resist when I saw this...
Nothing like deliberately misinterpreting a statement to totally miss the point. ::)
OK so yes we know what Boris probably meant to say but then of course his pre politics career was as a journalist so he's not supposed to make gaffs with words like that
So when he's in office and he presses the nuclear button in mistake for the 'bring totty' button should we also be forgiving?
What Nick said, he's an arsehole unfit to run a whelk stall
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Barman on July 24, 2019, 03:17:54 PM
WOW! What an incredible speech! cloud9:
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Steve on July 24, 2019, 04:09:46 PM
Never confuse a one off figure with an annual commitment
Like the £13B we pay each and every year to the EU...?
rubschin: Interesting take on 'we'. You smuggers are net recipients
And surely that's only £250M a week. You calling Boris a liar? Anyway we get over £3B of that back and Boris has promised £20B a year in tax and NI cuts and huge numbers in increased police, schools and other promises
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Barman on July 25, 2019, 09:01:52 AM
Never confuse a one off figure with an annual commitment
Like the £13B we pay each and every year to the EU...?
rubschin: Interesting take on 'we'. You smuggers are net recipients
And surely that's only £250M a week. You calling Boris a liar? Anyway we get over £3B of that back and Boris has promised £20B a year in tax and NI cuts and huge numbers in increased police, schools and other promises
FFS! Don't start on the 'lie' on the bus again... ::)
Three years and Reminers are still banging-on about it... noooo:
Anyhoo... you don't know the full programme yet, there are substantial savings to be had... and the £20B you claim ain't gonna be spent from day #1 is it...?
Why not give the man a chance eh...? Thumbs:
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Steve on July 25, 2019, 10:41:56 AM
Never confuse a one off figure with an annual commitment
Like the £13B we pay each and every year to the EU...?
rubschin: Interesting take on 'we'. You smuggers are net recipients
And surely that's only £250M a week. You calling Boris a liar? Anyway we get over £3B of that back and Boris has promised £20B a year in tax and NI cuts and huge numbers in increased police, schools and other promises
FFS! Don't start on the 'lie' on the bus again... ::)
Three years and Reminers are still banging-on about it... noooo:
Anyhoo... you don't know the full programme yet, there are substantial savings to be had... and the £20B you claim ain't gonna be spent from day #1 is it...?
Why not give the man a chance eh...? Thumbs:
Maybe I'm just not great at trusting the future of the country to people that have been proven pathological liars for years
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Barman on July 25, 2019, 10:52:14 AM
Never confuse a one off figure with an annual commitment
Like the £13B we pay each and every year to the EU...?
rubschin: Interesting take on 'we'. You smuggers are net recipients
And surely that's only £250M a week. You calling Boris a liar? Anyway we get over £3B of that back and Boris has promised £20B a year in tax and NI cuts and huge numbers in increased police, schools and other promises
FFS! Don't start on the 'lie' on the bus again... ::)
Three years and Reminers are still banging-on about it... noooo:
Anyhoo... you don't know the full programme yet, there are substantial savings to be had... and the £20B you claim ain't gonna be spent from day #1 is it...?
Why not give the man a chance eh...? Thumbs:
Maybe I'm just not great at trusting the future of the country to people that have been proven pathological liars for years
::)
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 25, 2019, 04:18:38 PM
Never confuse a one off figure with an annual commitment
Like the £13B we pay each and every year to the EU...?
rubschin: Interesting take on 'we'. You smuggers are net recipients
And surely that's only £250M a week. You calling Boris a liar? Anyway we get over £3B of that back and Boris has promised £20B a year in tax and NI cuts and huge numbers in increased police, schools and other promises
FFS! Don't start on the 'lie' on the bus again... ::)
Three years and Reminers are still banging-on about it... noooo:
Anyhoo... you don't know the full programme yet, there are substantial savings to be had... and the £20B you claim ain't gonna be spent from day #1 is it...?
Why not give the man a chance eh...? Thumbs:
Maybe I'm just not great at trusting the future of the country to people that have been proven pathological liars for years
I think we have been doing that since Pitt the Younger.
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Steve on July 25, 2019, 05:21:55 PM
Nah, most of them make mistakes but reports of them lying are exaggerated
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: apc2010 on July 26, 2019, 12:20:36 AM
Never confuse a one off figure with an annual commitment
Like the £13B we pay each and every year to the EU...?
rubschin: Interesting take on 'we'. You smuggers are net recipients
And surely that's only £250M a week. You calling Boris a liar? Anyway we get over £3B of that back and Boris has promised £20B a year in tax and NI cuts and huge numbers in increased police, schools and other promises
FFS! Don't start on the 'lie' on the bus again... ::)
Three years and Reminers are still banging-on about it... noooo:
Anyhoo... you don't know the full programme yet, there are substantial savings to be had... and the £20B you claim ain't gonna be spent from day #1 is it...?
Why not give the man a chance eh...? Thumbs:
Maybe I'm just not great at trusting the future of the country to people that have been proven pathological liars for years
I think we have been doing that since Pitt the Younger.
Did you vote for him ... rubschin:
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Darwins Selection on July 26, 2019, 08:30:22 AM
Never confuse a one off figure with an annual commitment
Like the £13B we pay each and every year to the EU...?
rubschin: Interesting take on 'we'. You smuggers are net recipients
And surely that's only £250M a week. You calling Boris a liar? Anyway we get over £3B of that back and Boris has promised £20B a year in tax and NI cuts and huge numbers in increased police, schools and other promises
FFS! Don't start on the 'lie' on the bus again... ::)
Three years and Reminers are still banging-on about it... noooo:
Anyhoo... you don't know the full programme yet, there are substantial savings to be had... and the £20B you claim ain't gonna be spent from day #1 is it...?
Why not give the man a chance eh...? Thumbs:
Maybe I'm just not great at trusting the future of the country to people that have been proven pathological liars for years
I think we have been doing that since Pitt the Younger.
Did you vote for him ... rubschin:
We were at school together. He fagged for me, so no vote.
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Barman on July 26, 2019, 08:32:53 AM
Never confuse a one off figure with an annual commitment
Like the £13B we pay each and every year to the EU...?
rubschin: Interesting take on 'we'. You smuggers are net recipients
And surely that's only £250M a week. You calling Boris a liar? Anyway we get over £3B of that back and Boris has promised £20B a year in tax and NI cuts and huge numbers in increased police, schools and other promises
FFS! Don't start on the 'lie' on the bus again... ::)
Three years and Reminers are still banging-on about it... noooo:
Anyhoo... you don't know the full programme yet, there are substantial savings to be had... and the £20B you claim ain't gonna be spent from day #1 is it...?
Why not give the man a chance eh...? Thumbs:
Maybe I'm just not great at trusting the future of the country to people that have been proven pathological liars for years
I think we have been doing that since Pitt the Younger.
Did you vote for him ... rubschin:
We were at school together. He fagged for me, so no vote.
happy001
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Steve on July 26, 2019, 09:02:56 AM
Never confuse a one off figure with an annual commitment
Like the £13B we pay each and every year to the EU...?
rubschin: Interesting take on 'we'. You smuggers are net recipients
And surely that's only £250M a week. You calling Boris a liar? Anyway we get over £3B of that back and Boris has promised £20B a year in tax and NI cuts and huge numbers in increased police, schools and other promises
FFS! Don't start on the 'lie' on the bus again... ::)
Three years and Reminers are still banging-on about it... noooo:
Anyhoo... you don't know the full programme yet, there are substantial savings to be had... and the £20B you claim ain't gonna be spent from day #1 is it...?
Why not give the man a chance eh...? Thumbs:
Maybe I'm just not great at trusting the future of the country to people that have been proven pathological liars for years
I think we have been doing that since Pitt the Younger.
Did you vote for him ... rubschin:
We were at school together. He fagged for me, so no vote.
happy001
happy001 happy001
Title: Re: The next Prime Minister
Post by: Grumpmeister on July 29, 2019, 02:53:01 PM
For crying out loud, and to think people wonder why faith in parliament has been at an all time low for ages now. This is the kind of gormless crap I'd expect to see in primary school. Here's an original thought for you Jeremy stop listening to the Marxist circle jerk your inner circle and go out to speak to people who haven't been vetted as safe to talk to. You are in desperate need of a reality check.
For crying out loud, and to think people wonder why faith in parliament has been at an all time low for ages now. This is the kind of gormless crap I'd expect to see in primary school. Here's an original thought for you Jeremy stop listening to the Marxist circle jerk your inner circle and go out to speak to people who haven't been vetted as safe to talk to. You are in desperate need of a reality check.
For crying out loud, and to think people wonder why faith in parliament has been at an all time low for ages now. This is the kind of gormless crap I'd expect to see in primary school. Here's an original thought for you Jeremy stop listening to the Marxist circle jerk your inner circle and go out to speak to people who haven't been vetted as safe to talk to. You are in desperate need of a reality check.